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San Rintu
Asshats and Alcoholics
Minuit.
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Posted - 2007.10.25 10:57:00 -
[91]
The Falcon can be as much an excellent gang ship as a rook if you are to take a step back and not try and make it brilliant at everything.
Firstly, to be a decent covert tackler and gang warfare specialist, the last thing you want to do is fill it with astrometric rigs. Any competent null sec pilot will be moving around or will cloak whether you have a scan time of 2 minutes or 30 seconds.
For the role that I see the Falcon best supporting: A covert tackler, you firstly need to ensure that it is fairly beefed up. If you take on a drone ship it will most likely get drone agro on you and if you are jamming multiple ships then your fleet do not want to hear you crying every time you get locked.
For that reason I give my falcon a mixture of ecm and a tank as below:
Hi: Covert Ops Cloak, Recon Launcher, 2 x Heavy Launcher II's (Some DPS in gang is better than none)
Med: T2 Racial Jammer of each kind, Warp Disruptor II, 2x Large Shield Extender II
Low: Depending on your cpu skills a mix of T2 ecm distort amps and CPU Upgrades.
Rigs: 2x Core Defense Field Extender
This setup looks strange at first but with fairly decent tanking and Ewar skills it will give you over 10k in shields and the ability to nullify several ships on the battlefield.
With the setup you have the ability to tank a decent amount of damage if you cannot jam all of the ships in the engagement which should allow your mates to heap on the DPS and save your back.
One of the most annoying things to an FC is a jamming ship made of paper because you lose one of your most potent weapons if it gets locked.
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Ramirez Dora
The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.
Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2007.10.26 04:58:00 -
[92]
The above build is viable for fleets, got almost exactly the same :)
Falcon's really have paper bag defenses, I cried when an enemy falcon warped in at 70 from an engagement not long ago (I had done the same in my manticore and moved off). Good thing I had scram and double RSD's. Poor falcon melted in 3 shots and didn't get time to put a jam on :( I thought stealth bombers were wet paper bags.
ps: in all fairness I think the guy was surprised to see anyone near him, let alone a stealth bomber with scram.
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ThaDollaGenerale
R.E.C.O.N.
Black-Out
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Posted - 2007.11.12 12:54:00 -
[93]
What about:
Highs:
Med Remote Armor Repairer
Med Remote Hull Repairer
Scan Probe Launcher
Cov Ops Cloak
Med:
Enfeebling Phase ECM X2
Hypnos Ion Field ECM X2
BZ-5 Neutralizing X 1
LSE II X 1
Sensor Booster II X 1
Lows:
Co Proc II X 1
Signal Distortion Amp II X 2
eh?
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San Rintu
Asshats and Alcoholics
Minuit.
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Posted - 2007.11.20 11:14:00 -
[94]
 Originally by: ThaDollaGenerale
What about:
Highs:
Med Remote Armor Repairer
Med Remote Hull Repairer
Scan Probe Launcher
Cov Ops Cloak
Med:
Enfeebling Phase ECM X2
Hypnos Ion Field ECM X2
BZ-5 Neutralizing X 1
LSE II X 1
Sensor Booster II X 1
Lows:
Co Proc II X 1
Signal Distortion Amp II X 2
eh?
An interesting setup certainly...
I like the idea of a remote rep ship however it receives no rep bonuses to the cycle and I'd much prefer to be concentrating on jamming ships rather than repairing others.
Also having those reppers on with all the ECM going will seriously drain even a recon's cap quickly. If you are going for a non dps approach I would probably put energy destabs on and try and help break someone else's tank rather than maintain a fellow fleet member's.
I would also advise getting Recon to IV before you think of really using a falcon effectively in fleet ops. That extra 1% off the cloak cpu usage equates to like 70Tf per level which is extraordinarily useful and means you can free up that extra low slot.
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Coreantes
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Posted - 2007.11.21 14:40:00 -
[95]
Edited by: Coreantes on 21/11/2007 14:41:16
Good ship, I love to fly it around. Here is my setup! Some notes:
- Multi's, since I have all ECM skills maxed out, including Recon and Cloaking both at V they never have let me down;
- Warp disrupter, comes in handy for some situations;
- Launchers, maybe not if you would always fight with a fleet;
- ECM Burst, handy for those little targets getting on your arse. This little upgrade on the midslot has both saved me and got me kills.
The setup below can run with my skills forever without running out of cap. I won't bother with defences, since this ship is dead anywho when it starts receiving any!
--Low--
Signal Distortion Amplifier II
Signal Distortion Amplifier II
Capacitor Power Relay II
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--Mid--
ECM Burst II
ECM - Multispectral Jammer II
ECM - Multispectral Jammer II
ECM - Multispectral Jammer II
ECM - Multispectral Jammer II
ECM - Multispectral Jammer II
Faint Warp Prohibitor I
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--High--
Heavy Missile Launcher II
Heavy Missile Launcher II
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
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--Rigs--
Targeting System Subcontroller I
Targeting Systems Stabilizer I
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Yoko Lee
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Posted - 2007.11.21 14:48:00 -
[96]
My falcon low secure :
1x cov ops cloack II, 1x recon probe launcher, 1x cyno (offline)
7x ecm racial (better named)
2x 'hypnos' signal distorsion amplifier, 1x 800 mm RT plate
1x rigs boost ecm and 1x rigs scan resolution (forget the name)
work nice for me.
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Minerva Vulcan
Caldari
The Nexus Foundation
Endless Horizon
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Posted - 2007.12.14 18:20:00 -
[97]
Edited by: Minerva Vulcan on 14/12/2007 18:20:19
'Hypnos' Signal Distortion Amplifier I
'Hypnos' Signal Distortion Amplifier I
'Hypnos' Signal Distortion Amplifier I
'Hypnos' Ion Field ECM I
'Umbra' I White Noise ECM
Enfeebling Phase Inversion ECM I
BZ-5 Neutralizing Spatial Destabilizer ECM
ECM - Multispectral Jammer II
ECM - Multispectral Jammer II
Large Shield Extender II
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
50W Infectious Power System Malfunction
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile
Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Core Defence Field Extender I
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I need new lovers in my bed,
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Ace Garpy
Caldari
hirr
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.12.20 14:17:00 -
[98]
Mine Updated for fleet
HI
1 x Recon Launcher
1 x Covert Cloak
2 x Light 'named' Launchers
MID
Either
4 x 'named' Racial
2 x 'named' MS
1 x 'named' Signal Booster
or
6 x 'named' MS
1 x 'named' Signal Booster
LOW
2 x Signal Distortion Amps
1 x 1600mm Tungsten Armour.
The armour is purely to help survivability and provide some extra time if if you do get war scrambled by an inty until your next jam round.
The Knight said - Oh that is an excellent story of payback, international romance, and James Bondery |
Yuleth Gix
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Posted - 2007.12.20 14:19:00 -
[99]
I loled when i saw when this thread was first created.
Talk about dragging it out.
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Mo Steel
Caldari
Sanguis vix Dignatio
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Posted - 2008.02.17 04:23:00 -
[100]
Originally by: Yuleth Gix
I loled when i saw when this thread was first created.
Talk about dragging it out.
Yeah, originally made this thread before I took a break from EvE.
Talk about ancient. 
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laszky
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Posted - 2008.02.19 18:31:00 -
[101]
how the hell do you get it all online ?
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Nicolas Vairaktaris
Caldari
Cold-Fury
Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2008.02.28 01:41:00 -
[102]
Edited by: Nicolas Vairaktaris on 28/02/2008 01:42:17
I have 2 set ups:
1st Set up...Cloaking Tackler.
2 x Heavy Lunchers
1 x covert ops cloak
1 x Recon probe
1 x 10mn MWD
1 x Sensor booster T2 with Res script
1 x T2 Disrupter
4 x T2 Multi ECm
2 x Signal Dist Apm T2
1 x PDU T2
2 x Singal Dist amp rigs
2nd Set up.... Roaming gang/Fleet
2 x Heavy Lunchers
1 x covert ops cloak
1 x Recon probe
1 x 10mn Ab
1 x T2 large Shield Ext
1 x Sensor booster T2 with Range script
1 x Each Racial ECM T2
2 x Signal Dist Apm T2
1 x PDU T2
2 x Singal Dist amp rigs
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Going Shopping
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Posted - 2008.02.28 04:39:00 -
[103]
Highs:
1x Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
1x Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I
1x Recon Probe Launcher I
1x Cynosural Field Generator I
Mids:
1x 10MN MWD II
1x Large Shield Extender II
4x Racial Best named ECM (1 for each race)
1x Hypnos Multispec ECM I
Lows:
3x Signal Distortion Amplifier II
Rigs:
1x Targeting System Subcontroller I (Faster lock time)
1x Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I (Some EM shield resist cause I dont like the 0% EM hole ;p)
You are gonna need a CPU implant to make it all fit online, otherwise just offline the Cyno till you need it...
Also, I see no need use to put any missile launchers on a Falcon.
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