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Troubadour
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Posted - 2006.06.24 12:02:00 -
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Edited by: Troubadour on 24/06/2006 12:02:59
Edited by: Troubadour on 24/06/2006 12:02:30
This is not a thread for whining about the tournament, there are plenty of threads for that already. All I wanna know is what alliences do you think have the best shot of making it to the final four. perhaps provide some information why if you choose those alliences. I'm just interest in what people that give a crap about the tournament think about the alliences involved. Looks like even though it's only 28 alliences, we have a good mix of types. From large ones, mid sized ones, pvp based, even primaraly industrial alliences. I think there is the potential for some pretty good fights and possibly some surprises.
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Hehulk
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Posted - 2006.06.24 12:42:00 -
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I'm Bias, but I think ISS has a very very good team. If we don't make it out of at least the group stages I'll be surprised and disapointed.
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Emily Black
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Posted - 2006.06.24 13:18:00 -
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Sorry ISS
Skill > Isk
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Hehulk
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Posted - 2006.06.24 13:19:00 -
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Edited by: Hehulk on 24/06/2006 13:19:48
I would quite happy name our team, but it'd get myself and my corp in a fairly large amount of trouble. And what's more, your main is?
Oh yes, and we're not as rich as you all make us out to be 
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fisty
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Posted - 2006.06.24 13:26:00 -
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gota see what man are behind an alliance, an alliance can have very good rep but have those pilots that are doing the tournament are nobos, dont think that would be the case, but...well have to see who's actually playing for which alliance
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Cicilus Hadrican
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Posted - 2006.06.24 15:42:00 -
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 Originally by: Troubadour
Edited by: Troubadour on 24/06/2006 12:02:59
(snip) Looks like even though it's only 28 alliences, we have a good mix of types. From large ones, mid sized ones, pvp based, even primaraly industrial alliences. I think there is the potential for some pretty good fights and possibly some surprises.
And I fully agree, but everyone will jump on bandwagons and mention the "usual" names.
Dont count the little guys out.
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Dires Ires
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Posted - 2006.06.24 15:46:00 -
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To me it is clearly gonna be AXE that wins the alliance tournament.
PS: no im not bias.
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Lord Spidey
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Posted - 2006.06.24 16:31:00 -
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George Mason
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Zrevak Ashek
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Posted - 2006.06.24 16:33:00 -
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If you have a good team of 40mill sp characters specialized in certain ships and used to fly together, and the industry to throw slave implants and faction battleships around like candy...u will win.
BOB wins, btw
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Ikvar
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Posted - 2006.06.24 18:03:00 -
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BOB will win again. Why? Because they have the skill and the ISK to pull it off.
Originally by: duffmantt
the majority of -10's you meet will be highly skilled.
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Kryztal
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Posted - 2006.06.24 19:02:00 -
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Goonfleet is gonna take it home im sure. 
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TornSoul
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Posted - 2006.06.24 20:24:00 -
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And for those who care to back their beliefs with a bit of ISK heres the chance
Alliance Tournament : Betting hosted by BIG
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Tiuwaz
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Posted - 2006.06.24 21:09:00 -
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the team with the most crystal implants will win
Originally by: Oveur
This is not the conspiracy you are looking for.
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Lunas Feelgood
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Posted - 2006.06.24 21:43:00 -
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Edited by: Lunas Feelgood on 24/06/2006 21:43:18
Who gonna win you say??
Well ofcourse its gonna be d2 there gonna win.. Actually i think this hole tournament should just been cancel and give the d2 team the first price so we dont have to wait on it and we dont need to humiliate other people and there ego¦s..
Anyway gonna be fun
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Kozak
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Posted - 2006.06.24 22:00:00 -
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If they let Kaos enter, I will win it this time 
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DeadDuck
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Posted - 2006.06.24 23:19:00 -
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What is the 1st prize this year ?
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Frakri Hogsto
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Posted - 2006.06.24 23:25:00 -
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Originally by: DeadDuck
What is the 1st prize this year ?
a year supplie of tinfoil
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2006.06.24 23:27:00 -
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Originally by: Frakri Hogsto
Originally by: DeadDuck
What is the 1st prize this year ?
a year supplie of tinfoil
lol that wouldn't be inappropriate 
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StiZum Hilidii
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Posted - 2006.06.24 23:28:00 -
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bob or 5 will take it
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Frakri Hogsto
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Posted - 2006.06.24 23:39:00 -
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Quote:
Who do you think fair best in the PvP Tournament?
team who will be in uber ravens and hawks
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.06.25 00:09:00 -
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I'm still surprised they're allowing faction implants again :/
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Frakri Hogsto
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Posted - 2006.06.25 00:13:00 -
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Originally by: Sarmaul
I'm still surprised they're allowing faction implants again :/
what about faction modules?
if they do then who ever got gistii and slave gonna win
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Thamotan Granto
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Posted - 2006.06.25 00:37:00 -
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You will all be destroyed by the evil hobbits of doom. 
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Lorth
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Posted - 2006.06.25 00:47:00 -
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I've never put much faith into the allience tourys. Its 4 pilots, out of thousands.
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Nareen Adlen
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Posted - 2006.06.25 01:26:00 -
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All modules have to be T2 or lower, which is a smart rule imho.
ECM isn't allowed which is just stupid. Yes, it's overpowered, but then they should nerf it in a patch instead of artificially keeping it out of the tournament.
And they still allow having billions worth of implants which makes the whole thing about isk only. Any decent alliance can pick up a few hundred million to fit five good T2 ships, but only the big 4 can afford fitting every pilot with a full Slave/Snake set and since podding isn't allowed they aren't even at any risk
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2006.06.25 01:37:00 -
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Originally by: Nareen Adlen
All modules have to be T2 or lower, which is a smart rule imho.
ECM isn't allowed which is just stupid. Yes, it's overpowered, but then they should nerf it in a patch instead of artificially keeping it out of the tournament.
And they still allow having billions worth of implants which makes the whole thing about isk only. Any decent alliance can pick up a few hundred million to fit five good T2 ships, but only the big 4 can afford fitting every pilot with a full Slave/Snake set and since podding isn't allowed they aren't even at any risk
LOL, you think the "rules" will stop podding? "Oh, sorry, you were in the way of my smartbomb".
And, of all the people in this game - you're saying that only the big for ALLIANCES can afford to put 12b of implants in to their pilots heads? If that IS the case (I know pilots, not in BoB, that could throw that money at implants and not even blink) then they don't deserve to win it anyway.
Time for people to put their money where their mouth is.
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Lorth
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Posted - 2006.06.25 02:03:00 -
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Originally by: Nareen Adlen
All modules have to be T2 or lower, which is a smart rule imho.
ECM isn't allowed which is just stupid. Yes, it's overpowered, but then they should nerf it in a patch instead of artificially keeping it out of the tournament.
And they still allow having billions worth of implants which makes the whole thing about isk only. Any decent alliance can pick up a few hundred million to fit five good T2 ships, but only the big 4 can afford fitting every pilot with a full Slave/Snake set and since podding isn't allowed they aren't even at any risk
If there is an allience who can not afforsd to our fit thier players with the ships and skills and gear to compete on an equal level with everyone else I would like thier names posted here.
I'm certain that I could solo such an allience as they are seeminly incapable of opperating as a team in any regard.
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Moghydin
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Posted - 2006.06.25 04:10:00 -
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There's a big difference between working as a team, and working as a team, farming 10/10 complex. I saw ppl on escrow who sell faction gear and pirate implants at the quantities like NPC's selling Civillian Shield Boosters.
Working as a team is neccessary, but it's surely not enough.
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Trevedian
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Posted - 2006.06.25 04:33:00 -
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Edited by: Trevedian on 25/06/2006 04:33:42
My prediction for the finals will be:
BOB or MC in the Top Half of the brackets
AND in the finals they will meet;
In the bottom half of the brackets it will be The Red Skull or, if my internet dies the day of the quarter finals, Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
Anybody want to bet against me?
Sex0r > you're bounty turns me on.. you seem like the kind of amarrian to dominate me
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Ninjin Ninja
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Posted - 2006.06.25 05:41:00 -
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Still too ISK-based for the tournament to even remotely accurately point out who is the most skillful team. Cutting away faction modules doesn't do much if your team got implants worth 10b+ and most others don't.
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SweatySack
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Posted - 2006.06.25 10:42:00 -
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I just wish our Alliance had time to be made before this. We have a very good squad of PVP pilots. O well. Next time.
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Elendar
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Posted - 2006.06.25 11:54:00 -
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the only question in my mind, who will control the alts when bob and mc meet in the finals 
Originally by: ph33rf4ct0ry
Xirt must be one of the GREAT leaders in eve to keep you guys shooting shuttles in hophib
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Atom HeartMother
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Posted - 2006.06.25 12:16:00 -
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everyone seams to be whining about Isk but tbh the last torny threw up some great fights and people you wouldnt expect to win did, remember MC v AM was an exclent fight and AM won and their not a huge PVP alance with Billions of Isk to throw around at a whim, the same could be said for KAOS who fought bob in the final, so youll just have to see wht this year throws up
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ParMizaN
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Posted - 2006.06.25 12:26:00 -
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Edited by: ParMizaN on 25/06/2006 12:27:05
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Nareen Adlen
All modules have to be T2 or lower, which is a smart rule imho.
ECM isn't allowed which is just stupid. Yes, it's overpowered, but then they should nerf it in a patch instead of artificially keeping it out of the tournament.
And they still allow having billions worth of implants which makes the whole thing about isk only. Any decent alliance can pick up a few hundred million to fit five good T2 ships, but only the big 4 can afford fitting every pilot with a full Slave/Snake set and since podding isn't allowed they aren't even at any risk
LOL, you think the "rules" will stop podding? "Oh, sorry, you were in the way of my smartbomb".
And, of all the people in this game - you're saying that only the big for ALLIANCES can afford to put 12b of implants in to their pilots heads? If that IS the case (I know pilots, not in BoB, that could throw that money at implants and not even blink) then they don't deserve to win it anyway.
Time for people to put their money where their mouth is.
Diana the gms (i think) said that anybody podding will instantly have their team disqualified, and the person podded will have all their implants restored, clone restored and be reinstated to the tournament. They are pretty serious about the "no podding" rule it seems 
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fairimear
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Posted - 2006.06.25 12:33:00 -
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the team with the best comandship bs and cruiser combo.
my bets are on a navymega + damnation and deimos, with slave implants and repair drone spammage.
or a navyraven + caladri damnation equive + eagle)like bob from final last tourny) all with imps and what drones they can have.
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2006.06.25 12:39:00 -
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Originally by: ParMizaN
Edited by: ParMizaN on 25/06/2006 12:27:05
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Nareen Adlen
All modules have to be T2 or lower, which is a smart rule imho.
ECM isn't allowed which is just stupid. Yes, it's overpowered, but then they should nerf it in a patch instead of artificially keeping it out of the tournament.
And they still allow having billions worth of implants which makes the whole thing about isk only. Any decent alliance can pick up a few hundred million to fit five good T2 ships, but only the big 4 can afford fitting every pilot with a full Slave/Snake set and since podding isn't allowed they aren't even at any risk
LOL, you think the "rules" will stop podding? "Oh, sorry, you were in the way of my smartbomb".
And, of all the people in this game - you're saying that only the big for ALLIANCES can afford to put 12b of implants in to their pilots heads? If that IS the case (I know pilots, not in BoB, that could throw that money at implants and not even blink) then they don't deserve to win it anyway.
Time for people to put their money where their mouth is.
Diana the gms (i think) said that anybody podding will instantly have their team disqualified, and the person podded will have all their implants restored, clone restored and be reinstated to the tournament. They are pretty serious about the "no podding" rule it seems
(frickin spelling)
That's a bit daft tbh (I hadn't read they were that intent on it tbh, been away all week) as they've effectively made it raven > * cuz you have bugger all chance of killing much of its damage output now.
ah well.
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Aava Nefarr
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Posted - 2006.06.25 14:21:00 -
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Nos that winged rat with a Bhaalgorn
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.06.25 14:52:00 -
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Originally by: Sarmaul
I'm still surprised they're allowing faction implants again :/
/signed.
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Muthsera
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Posted - 2006.06.25 14:57:00 -
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Originally by: HippoKing
Originally by: Sarmaul
I'm still surprised they're allowing faction implants again :/
/signed.
Agree. but how are you going to stop it if someone desides to bring them anyway?
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Frakri Hogsto
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Posted - 2006.06.25 15:55:00 -
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Originally by: Muthsera
Originally by: HippoKing
Originally by: Sarmaul
I'm still surprised they're allowing faction implants again :/
/signed.
Agree. but how are you going to stop it if someone desides to bring them anyway?
easy?
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Tyrrax Thorrk
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Posted - 2006.06.25 16:02:00 -
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Not really easy, a hassle for all involved, devs having to scan each pod for implants, contestants having to use jump clones and buy replacement hardwirings..
Besides, as has been said frequently, this is an Alliance tournament, not The Hobo Bumfights Tournament.
A lot of people prefer disposable pvp and think it makes them more skilled, doesn't mean they're right. Not confident enough in their skill to use expensive stuff, or die too frequently to be able to afford it?
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Marsha11
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Posted - 2006.06.25 19:12:00 -
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Originally by: Kryztal
Goonfleet is gonna take it home im sure.
How? they have to field a battleship...
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Frakri Hogsto
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Posted - 2006.06.25 20:01:00 -
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Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk
Not really easy, a hassle for all involved, devs having to scan each pod for implants, contestants having to use jump clones and buy replacement hardwirings..
Besides, as has been said frequently, this is an Alliance tournament, not The Hobo Bumfights Tournament.
A lot of people prefer disposable pvp and think it makes them more skilled, doesn't mean they're right. Not confident enough in their skill to use expensive stuff, or die too frequently to be able to afford it?
I thOught that it would be easy with GM abilities to scan pod for implants and ship for faction stuff
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.06.25 20:04:00 -
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Originally by: Frakri Hogsto
Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk
Not really easy, a hassle for all involved, devs having to scan each pod for implants, contestants having to use jump clones and buy replacement hardwirings..
Besides, as has been said frequently, this is an Alliance tournament, not The Hobo Bumfights Tournament.
A lot of people prefer disposable pvp and think it makes them more skilled, doesn't mean they're right. Not confident enough in their skill to use expensive stuff, or die too frequently to be able to afford it?
I thOught that it would be easy with GM abilities to scan pod for implants and ship for faction stuff
Just pod players at entrance...
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Frakri Hogsto
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Posted - 2006.06.25 21:24:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Originally by: Frakri Hogsto
Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk
Not really easy, a hassle for all involved, devs having to scan each pod for implants, contestants having to use jump clones and buy replacement hardwirings..
Besides, as has been said frequently, this is an Alliance tournament, not The Hobo Bumfights Tournament.
A lot of people prefer disposable pvp and think it makes them more skilled, doesn't mean they're right. Not confident enough in their skill to use expensive stuff, or die too frequently to be able to afford it?
I thOught that it would be easy with GM abilities to scan pod for implants and ship for faction stuff
Just pod players at entrance...
indeed
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Leo McGarry
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Posted - 2006.06.26 00:44:00 -
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Originally by: Marsha11
Originally by: Kryztal
Goonfleet is gonna take it home im sure.
How? they have to field a battleship...
MC better win!
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Beringe
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Posted - 2006.06.26 03:04:00 -
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I think both IAC and KAOS will be up there, as well as the more recognized BoB and MC (which I'm sure will want to rectify last time's early loss).
Victors aside, I'm keenly interested to see how ISS and GoonSwarm fare. I think they might surprise some.
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Beringe
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Posted - 2006.06.26 03:05:00 -
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Edited by: Beringe on 26/06/2006 03:06:40
<triple post>
WTF?
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Beringe
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Posted - 2006.06.26 03:05:00 -
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Edited by: Beringe on 26/06/2006 03:05:35
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Liet Traep
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Posted - 2006.06.26 09:11:00 -
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BoB. And I hate having to give that answer. BoB has lots of skilled, high sp players who are used to working well together. Also the alliance is filthy rich and can afford to outfit a team with the best ships and mods. Makes me wish that the winner of the last tourney be disallowed.
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Gyro DuAquin1
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Posted - 2006.06.26 10:12:00 -
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ive made my mind up about this tourney and so ive made some tests with corp mates, but in the end its all about the implants.
Just imange a cnr a caldari command ship, a eagle and a hawk, and a whatever, all with full implant set. Those guys fight against the same types of ships and then they will win. So if u can afford the implants for ur pilots this is a "i pwn button"
IMO it would have been funnier if it would be more about the skill, imange u get to polaris and there u can buy the whole set for a few isk, so that everyone has the some chance to win the fight and it wouldnt count how many complexes u have raided or how many npcs u have done.
And yes, if u pod someone u r disqualified - which is understandable if u have about tons of isk in ur head.
about the price if its a carrier, there could be the slight problem that winning the tournament has been more expensive then buying one. so i guess itll be bigger, titan maybe.
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Shin Ra
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Posted - 2006.06.26 12:07:00 -
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There is a heavy basis on being stupidly rich, I guess thats why its an Alliance tournament. Sure bob have a chance, but I would deffinatly not bet money on it. I'm sure some unknown team few people have heard of will more liekly win it.
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Zillazuki
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Posted - 2006.06.26 12:33:00 -
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The first Alliance that springs to mind to win this thing is The Red Skull. I think they have a real chance.
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Jasmine Constantine
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Posted - 2006.06.26 13:25:00 -
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Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk
Not really easy, a hassle for all involved, devs having to scan each pod for implants, contestants having to use jump clones and buy replacement hardwirings..
Besides, as has been said frequently, this is an Alliance tournament, not The Hobo Bumfights Tournament.
A lot of people prefer disposable pvp and think it makes them more skilled, doesn't mean they're right. Not confident enough in their skill to use expensive stuff, or die too frequently to be able to afford it?
I'd think the true test of people so confident in their pvp skill and ability to win through the use of ability+expensive equipment would be an open battle environment with podding allowed no? To my eyes its artifical and restrictive to rule out ecm and ban podding.
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Tyrrax Thorrk
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Posted - 2006.06.26 14:24:00 -
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Sure Jasmine, podding should be allowed in my opinion.
ECM could be allowed if it was a different format, like with warping around an entire system etc, just would be totally absurd in the format CCP decided to go with and considering how ludicrously overpowered it currently is.
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Meeko Gloom
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Posted - 2006.06.26 15:34:00 -
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Originally by: Kozak
If they let Kaos enter, I will win it this time
You mean ASCN right m8?
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Seleene
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Posted - 2006.06.28 12:56:00 -
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Originally by: Beringe
I think both IAC and KAOS will be up there, as well as the more recognized BoB and MC (which I'm sure will want to rectify last time's early loss).
^^ Understatement of the year, TBH. Yeah, we've been looking forward to this for a long time.
Originally by: Beringe
Victors aside, I'm keenly interested to see how ISS and GoonSwarm fare. I think they might surprise some.
Having flown with ISS earlier this year on contract, you can bet we won't underestimate them.
Originally by: Atom HeartMother
everyone seams to be whining about Isk but tbh the last torny threw up some great fights and people you wouldnt expect to win did, remember MC v AM was an exclent fight and AM won
*grumbles yet again about 3% structure NOSing Tempests...* 
Originally by: Elendar
the only question in my mind, who will control the alts when bob and mc meet in the finals
If we make it, it's not "BoB" that worries me; it's TWD.
Originally by: Zillazuki
The first Alliance that springs to mind to win this thing is The Red Skull. I think they have a real chance.
Would love to fight that team.
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Posted - 2006.06.28 15:23:00 -
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if peopple are not allowed to refit it could be interesting.
The weird setup may win against 1 team but not against another.
So team A would win if it went against team B but not C. And C would loose against B so hopes A beats B so they can win.
if you understand what I mean.
Its a shame they allow the pirate implants, they are so good, not having them is a real pain.
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Sirkill
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Posted - 2006.06.28 18:36:00 -
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ECM is dissallowed for obvious reasons. Mainly that you can easily force an indefinate stalmate with it.
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Trevedian
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Posted - 2006.06.28 19:20:00 -
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1) People need to stop whining about implants... What if I have no jumpclones and all I have is a set of +3 Slave Implants?
Do I need to take the time to train another skill (Infomorph Psychology) so I can get a clone with no implants so I can be weak like the rest of the whiners? Why not ask the whiners to spend some time making isk so they don't need to eat from the trash bin, crying about how pirate implants cost a whole 500 mil for a full set... WAAAA!
2) Podding shouldn't be an issue... Who will be dumb enough to fit scramblers? I wish it was that way just so dumb ppl would waste midslots...
How does podding someone give me a better chance of winning? Isn't it just a way of rubbing salt in the wound?
3) ECM would make for incredibly boring fights, and every team would have a Rook and Scorpian on it...
Are people really that naive about how PVP works? Its not difficult to imagine why allowing ECM is a bad idea, but I guess if you have never PVP'd, how could you imagine?
Coalition Of Carebear Killers is gonna win it all IMO... (They owe me ISK cuz I gave them their name)
Sex0r > you're bounty turns me on.. you seem like the kind of amarrian to dominate me
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Beringe
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Posted - 2006.06.28 23:57:00 -
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Edited by: Beringe on 28/06/2006 23:57:14
Originally by: Seleene
Originally by: Beringe
I think both IAC and KAOS will be up there, as well as the more recognized BoB and MC (which I'm sure will want to rectify last time's early loss).
^^ Understatement of the year, TBH. Yeah, we've been looking forward to this for a long time.
I'm the clerk at the front desk of Understatement ltd.
Originally by: Seleene
Originally by: Atom HeartMother
everyone seams to be whining about Isk but tbh the last torny threw up some great fights and people you wouldnt expect to win did, remember MC v AM was an exclent fight and AM won
*grumbles yet again about 3% structure NOSing Tempests...*
The tempest that wouldn't die! 
Originally by: Seleene
If we make it, it's not "BoB" that worries me; it's TWD.
I'm not sure how many people realize this. In a small-scale gang warfare of this kind, two things are the most important: The tactician of the group, and experience of the flyers.
If the flyers do not make any mistakes (*cough**cough*The Rock*cough**cough*), the battles will be decided by the quality of the tactician.
IAC is probably going to be in the finals for that reason.
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James Lyrus
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Posted - 2006.06.29 08:49:00 -
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Originally by: Seleene
Originally by: Beringe
Victors aside, I'm keenly interested to see how ISS and GoonSwarm fare. I think they might surprise some.
Having flown with ISS earlier this year on contract, you can bet we won't underestimate them.
Aw, please do. We're in the group round with MC :).
*waves hand* We're just a bunch'a harmless carebears, who'll be fitted with Miner IIs.
More seriously though my money's on BoB vs. MC in the final. And that's one I'll be looking forward to.
As for the rest, well there's a lot of names there, and ... well frankly I'd be surprised if most alliances _couldn't_ field 5 superb PvPers. So it comes more to strategy, tactics and iskies. To be honest, I'm expecting a good show, especially with EVE TV (I do hope they'll be recording, as i'll be away the opening weekend)
With a group stage, the cost of replacement ships is also going to be something to worry about - it's quite possible to win a round, and still be down a faction BS.
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Posted - 2006.06.29 10:04:00 -
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I say the 1st price should be a shipyard.
So the winner gets ganked by 600 people in his home system
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Eyeshadow
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Posted - 2006.06.29 10:37:00 -
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I predict a rather boring tournament, with just about everyone fielding CNRs, Vultures, Cerbs/Eagles + Hawks/Harpies, with the vulture running numerous shield boosting gang goodies.
the winners will be whoever could afford the most crystal sets
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TWD
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Posted - 2006.06.29 11:30:00 -
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Edited by: TWD on 29/06/2006 11:37:21
Originally by: Eyeshadow
I predict a rather boring tournament, with just about everyone fielding CNRs, Vultures, Cerbs/Eagles + Hawks/Harpies, with the vulture running numerous shield boosting gang goodies.
the winners will be whoever could afford the most crystal sets
That is easy to beat.
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Lowa
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Posted - 2006.06.29 13:10:00 -
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Its going to be interesting for sure!
And with some of the fights being extremely close
last time there is very hard to bet "safe". All it takes is one last salvo...
I will say MC takes it past the first round this time though.
And I dont see the issue with complaining about implants and isk.
This is the Tournament and its all about the biggest and most evil
ships and players out there.
I my self take it as a opertunity to see some really expensive
and sometimes rare ships get fielded (and blown up) that
you normally almost never see in full action.
And especially for those not involved that much in the large
scale conflicts in EVE. It will be a blast!
Cheers,
LOWA
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Namtuk
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Posted - 2006.06.29 13:38:00 -
[67]
Bob vs MC in the final or should I say Bob vs Bob lol
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xeom
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Posted - 2006.06.29 14:41:00 -
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Ima have to say ERA just because im x-era =P
acctualy don't even know if they are gana enter.You guys better!!!
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Lilan Kahn
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Posted - 2006.06.29 16:48:00 -
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Edited by: Lilan Kahn on 29/06/2006 16:49:00
Originally by: James Lyrus
Originally by: Seleene
Originally by: Beringe
Victors aside, I'm keenly interested to see how ISS and GoonSwarm fare. I think they might surprise some.
Having flown with ISS earlier this year on contract, you can bet we won't underestimate them.
Aw, please do. We're in the group round with MC :).
*waves hand* We're just a bunch'a harmless carebears, who'll be fitted with Miner IIs.
More seriously though my money's on BoB vs. MC in the final. And that's one I'll be looking forward to.
As for the rest, well there's a lot of names there, and ... well frankly I'd be surprised if most alliances _couldn't_ field 5 superb PvPers. So it comes more to strategy, tactics and iskies. To be honest, I'm expecting a good show, especially with EVE TV (I do hope they'll be recording, as i'll be away the opening weekend)
With a group stage, the cost of replacement ships is also going to be something to worry about - it's quite possible to win a round, and still be down a faction BS.
SHHHHHH
we where planing to smugel in ospreys, miners 2's bpcs so we coud build out mothership fleet in jove space...
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We break after X amount of threads, then we go wild and then we get our medication.
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Sochin
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Posted - 2006.06.29 20:55:00 -
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Originally by: Seleene
If we make it, it's not "BoB" that worries me; it's TWD.
TWD spent 90% of the last tourny in a pod :P
Of course, that didn't stop him from performing his most important role as tactician.
Nemo me impune lacessit
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The Gate
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Posted - 2006.06.29 21:08:00 -
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I'm getting pretty sick of people saying BOB are going to win it because they are skilled. You can't say that BOB have the 3 players ingame with the highest amount of sp in spaceship and gunnery, e.g. more than any other person in the game. I myself have 30 mil sp split between gunnery and spaceship command ... |
Kozak
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Posted - 2006.06.29 21:11:00 -
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Everyone seems to base their predictions based on PvP prowess that is shown on this forum. It doesn't matter. Nobody predicted that KAOS would even move on to the second round.
What will win is Implants (that's what one last time, they had them we didn't ), ship loadouts, and the strategy.
This will be an interesting tournament. The addition of the command ships will make things more interesting. I look forward to it.
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SengH
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Posted - 2006.06.29 21:29:00 -
[73]
Originally by: The Gate
I'm getting pretty sick of people saying BOB are going to win it because they are skilled. You can't say that BOB have the 3 players ingame with the highest amount of sp in spaceship and gunnery, e.g. more than any other person in the game. I myself have 30 mil sp split between gunnery and spaceship command ...
Thats nothing for vets... Tesk back in Suprm (about a year ago... had 32 mil SP in gunnery alone). He quit playing though.
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The Gate
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Posted - 2006.06.29 21:32:00 -
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32 mil sp in gunnery (which i doubt) means he had was rubbish in everything else, for example would be lacking in spaceship command. |
Auntie Bob
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Posted - 2006.06.29 21:57:00 -
[75]
Originally by: TWD
Edited by: TWD on 29/06/2006 11:37:21
Originally by: Eyeshadow
I predict a rather boring tournament, with just about everyone fielding CNRs, Vultures, Cerbs/Eagles + Hawks/Harpies, with the vulture running numerous shield boosting gang goodies.
the winners will be whoever could afford the most crystal sets
That is easy to beat.
I'm looking forward to the tournament. I do not expect us to win again but we do have one of the best teams.
If your in the team again your prolly goddam favourites 
However there are a lot of good pvp'ers entering, my outside tip is The Rock (if Mr Raynor Enters) or Stain if they sort a good team out.
However I would like to see people like Finite Horizon or Burn Eden Enter as love them or loathe them the do have best pvper's in game currently imo
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Tyrrax Thorrk
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Posted - 2006.06.30 08:42:00 -
[76]
FZN best pvpers in game ? ROFL.
Most amusing.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2006.06.30 08:44:00 -
[77]
Originally by: The Gate
I'm getting pretty sick of people saying BOB are going to win it because they are skilled. You can't say that BOB have the 3 players ingame with the highest amount of sp in spaceship and gunnery, e.g. more than any other person in the game. I myself have 30 mil sp split between gunnery and spaceship command ...
Yeah but you have a question mark for a face so you won't be able to see which target you need to shoot next.
dbp
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Drilla
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Posted - 2006.06.30 08:59:00 -
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Originally by: Trevedian
1) People need to stop whining about implants... What if I have no jumpclones and all I have is a set of +3 Slave Implants?
Do I need to take the time to train another skill (Infomorph Psychology) so I can get a clone with no implants so I can be weak like the rest of the whiners? Why not ask the whiners to spend some time making isk so they don't need to eat from the trash bin, crying about how pirate implants cost a whole 500 mil for a full set... WAAAA!
So it's okay for you to whine about having to train a 10 minute skill but not for people who cant afford a billion isk on a set of implants for this tournament AND train a skill to what - level 4 or 5 to use crystal sets?
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Seleene
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Posted - 2006.06.30 09:06:00 -
[79]
Originally by: The Gate
I'm getting pretty sick of people saying BOB are going to win it because they are skilled. You can't say that BOB have the 3 players ingame with the highest amount of sp in spaceship and gunnery, e.g. more than any other person in the game. I myself have 30 mil sp split between gunnery and spaceship command ...
It's not about skill points. It's about experience and adaptability. It's about balls and determination. It's also a bit about luck too, TBH.
Most importantly, it's about tactics and knowing how to use all of those skill points to maximum effect, which is not as simple as some think. As was pointed out earlier, even people in a pod can make the difference in these kind of matches. The other teams who donĘt have something like a TWD or a Sivona are going to suffer. Just five good fighters isnĘt the WIN button here.
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Lowa
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Posted - 2006.06.30 16:24:00 -
[80]
Originally by: Seleene
Just five good fighters isnĘt the WIN button here.
And thats why I will be conducting bloody rituals on live stock in my cargo hold during MC rounds.
/LOWA
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Caybn E'vangel
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Posted - 2006.06.30 16:33:00 -
[81]
Between Seleene dying his cats, and you sacrificing animals I have no choice but to inform the ASPCA of the MC's repeated animal cruelty.
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Robert Dobbs
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Posted - 2006.06.30 17:45:00 -
[82]
I think out of the contenders some have a good chance..
1) D2
2) MC
3) BoB
And after the last tournament, it would be silly to underestimate
4) Kaos empire
I would include ASCN / Axiom on this list but I have doubts about wether they will be able to front pilots skilled enough for the tournament.
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Semkhet
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Posted - 2006.07.01 19:00:00 -
[83]
Originally by: Seleene
Originally by: The Gate
I'm getting pretty sick of people saying BOB are going to win it because they are skilled. You can't say that BOB have the 3 players ingame with the highest amount of sp in spaceship and gunnery, e.g. more than any other person in the game. I myself have 30 mil sp split between gunnery and spaceship command ...
It's not about skill points. It's about experience and adaptability. It's about balls and determination. It's also a bit about luck too, TBH.
Most importantly, it's about tactics and knowing how to use all of those skill points to maximum effect, which is not as simple as some think. As was pointed out earlier, even people in a pod can make the difference in these kind of matches. The other teams who don’t have something like a TWD or a Sivona are going to suffer. Just five good fighters isn’t the WIN button here.
Very pertinent post dear Seleene
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Maximillian Pillon
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Posted - 2006.07.05 17:35:00 -
[84]
Originally by: Robert Dobbs
I think out of the contenders some have a good chance..
1) D2
2) MC
3) BoB
And after the last tournament, it would be silly to underestimate
4) Kaos empire
I would include ASCN / Axiom on this list but I have doubts about wether they will be able to front pilots skilled enough for the tournament.
Since last years tournament, we have had a big influx of new corps into ASCN/AXE, and some of these corps have great veteran PvP pod pilots. I think there is a good chance for us to muster a very good team. I would never underestimate any team that enters the tournament, as any team can beat any team on any given day. Look at this past year's NCAA tournament or World Cup.
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Jebidus Skari
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Posted - 2006.07.05 22:33:00 -
[85]
Originally by: Robert Dobbs
I would include ASCN / Axiom on this list but I have doubts about wether they will be able to front pilots experienced enough for the tournament.
Just a small fix to that imo 
I'll root for the lil guys as usual, I love surprises in these things
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Damarr IV
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Posted - 2006.07.05 22:53:00 -
[86]
Originally by: Robert Dobbs
I think out of the contenders some have a good chance..
1) D2
2) MC
3) BoB
And after the last tournament, it would be silly to underestimate
4) Kaos empire
I would include ASCN / Axiom on this list but I have doubts about wether they will be able to front pilots skilled enough for the tournament.
There are quite a few alliances that are in the same boat that KOAS was in last year. Being in the alliance tourney last year showed me that the team with the least critical mistakes is the one that will win names mean nothing..
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xKillaH
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Posted - 2006.07.05 23:12:00 -
[87]
Originally by: Emily Black
Sorry ISS
Skill > Isk
haha... so true!
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Dave White
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Posted - 2006.07.05 23:18:00 -
[88]
\o/ mom im in a bob thread
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Nastro Azzura
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Posted - 2006.07.05 23:29:00 -
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Just curious, this especially goes for ASCN. With so many members, how do you chose 5 members? Do you hold an inside tourny? Do you do lots? Or do you know already? Like "Oh, we have TWD, he's def in, don't need proof?"
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QwaarJet
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Posted - 2006.07.05 23:49:00 -
[90]
Originally by: Hehulk
Edited by: Hehulk on 24/06/2006 12:46:36
I'm Bias, but I think ISS has a very very good team. If we don't make it out of at least the group stages I'll be surprised and disapointed.
Out of our group though, we've got some stiff competition. MC has my money on it for hardest fight for us, SA could be interesting, and I don't know enough about Ushra'Khan to make any gueses there.
What about us?
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Nastro Azzura
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Posted - 2006.07.06 00:34:00 -
[91]
Originally by: QwaarJet
Originally by: Hehulk
Edited by: Hehulk on 24/06/2006 12:46:36
I'm Bias, but I think ISS has a very very good team. If we don't make it out of at least the group stages I'll be surprised and disapointed.
Out of our group though, we've got some stiff competition. MC has my money on it for hardest fight for us, SA could be interesting, and I don't know enough about Ushra'Khan to make any gueses there.
What about us?
Who the **** are you?
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NATMav
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Posted - 2006.07.06 00:46:00 -
[92]
I wouldn't count out IRON. They surprised a few people last time around.
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Lorth
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Posted - 2006.07.06 01:55:00 -
[93]
I still believe that this is more or less a toss up, between a lot of people. Its just 5(?) pilots, and I would think that most alliences have 5 good pvp pilots.
The biggest question is, finding 5 PVP pilots who can work together, and 1 good leader.
I know alliences like BOB, D2, LV, MC have those pilots, and I'm sure a couple other alliences have them as well, and will surprise us.
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Shaelin Corpius
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Posted - 2006.07.06 02:44:00 -
[94]
Any alliance that prepares itself to the fullest will do well.
They will have to have the "Do whatever is necessary to Win" attitude and apply it to the games mechanics and logisitics.
The smallest alliance ingame can win it if they really want to.
Hire the best pvpers, buy the best gear, take the time to practice heavily with the team. Be prepared for anything.
Anything less will guarantee you a loss.
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Crellion
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Posted - 2006.07.06 17:58:00 -
[95]
Exactly ... I know we cant be arsed to even discuss strategy so if we make it through stage 1 somebody on the other side will have ****** up big time
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