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KIATolon	Posted - 2006.06.29 14:14:00 - [301] When I see a loss mail with only POS guns on, you'll have my sympathy Oh, and your gang was already on grid when GS attacked
DeadDuck	Posted - 2006.06.29 14:27:00 - [302] Originally by: KIATolon When I see a loss mail with only POS guns on, you'll have my sympathy well check the alliances kill boards then ... theres a lot of them
Andraxx	Posted - 2006.06.29 14:29:00 - [303] What i readly cant understand are that kindergarden postiongs here. Why you can't just say "Ok, we know that there is modul lag from 5 Min till frezze. We also can change that, and yes we have the avantage to sit at our pos." Quite ez
CardboardSword42	Posted - 2006.06.29 14:38:00 - [304] Edited by: CardboardSword42 on 29/06/2006 14:41:10 Originally by: Dawn Princess Originally by: CardboardSword42 Lag effects everybody. This thread is beginning to remind me of the thread made after Collective, RAT, Outbreak,and SE stomped ASCN. It reminds you of that other thread as it is the same issue. Lag does not affect POS guns, that is what the problem is. Lag does not affect those already in the grid with it loaded a fraction as much as those warping into it. The fleet at the pos still has to load all the ships warping into them. Also the goons have been attacking D2/Steel Viper POSes. So they experience the lag of warping into a pos as well Lag is an issue. It is an issue both sides have to face in this conflict. It should not be used as a scapegoat for tactical errors I'm Ex-Biomass, that makes me cool But now I'm KOS and it's all about the manlove
Nidrian	Posted - 2006.06.29 14:38:00 - [305] It's a game who is meant to play Isn't it?
KIATolon	Posted - 2006.06.29 14:44:00 - [306] Originally by: DeadDuck Originally by: KIATolon When I see a loss mail with only POS guns on, you'll have my sympathy well check the alliances kill boards then ... theres a lot of them And none of those ships were called target.
DeadDuck	Posted - 2006.06.29 14:52:00 - [307] Originally by: KIATolon Originally by: DeadDuck Originally by: KIATolon When I see a loss mail with only POS guns on, you'll have my sympathy well check the alliances kill boards then ... theres a lot of them And none of those ships were called target. Does that means that I dont have your sympathy ?
Jurushy	Posted - 2006.06.29 14:53:00 - [308] Originally by: CardboardSword42 Edited by: CardboardSword42 on 29/06/2006 14:41:10 Originally by: Dawn Princess Originally by: CardboardSword42 Lag effects everybody. This thread is beginning to remind me of the thread made after Collective, RAT, Outbreak,and SE stomped ASCN. It reminds you of that other thread as it is the same issue. Lag does not affect POS guns, that is what the problem is. Lag does not affect those already in the grid with it loaded a fraction as much as those warping into it. The fleet at the pos still has to load all the ships warping into them. Also the goons have been attacking D2/Steel Viper POSes. So they experience the lag of warping into a pos as well Lag is an issue. It is an issue both sides have to face in this conflict. It should not be used as a scapegoat for tactical errors thay never attak one of our poses if ther were defender in space
AltSpy McSpy	Posted - 2006.06.29 14:53:00 - [309] Wow, who would have thought that goons could ever stand up to the might of D2? I'm impressed.
KIATolon	Posted - 2006.06.29 14:57:00 - [310] Originally by: DeadDuck Originally by: KIATolon Originally by: DeadDuck Originally by: KIATolon When I see a loss mail with only POS guns on, you'll have my sympathy well check the alliances kill boards then ... theres a lot of them And none of those ships were called target. Does that means that I dont have your sympathy ? Tell you what; you give me a cuddle, and I'll give you a cuddle.

grizouh	Posted - 2006.06.29 15:00:00 - [311] Originally by: CardboardSword42 The fleet at the pos still has to load all the ships warping into them. Also the goons have been attacking D2/Steel Viper POSes. So they experience the lag of warping into a pos as well once again: the goon/shmash dreads only appear when the most of us are already asleep. we had been attacking while there had been around 100 on goonies side because we do not mind the fight and would really enjoy it if it would be playable... and it makes a difference if you jump onto a fleet or wait for the incoming, g/d2 is used to lag ^^ try another look at the amano pic. how many do you see targeting? is it because goonies do have lag, too or because uzi does not get the info from the client due to lag? just in case you missed the link: http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/9319/dread10uw.jpg or wilds pic: http://www.bzone.org/BILD/Ouch.png translation of the chat: wildcards dread at the safespot well at least i think so...
dirty mick	Posted - 2006.06.29 15:02:00 - [312] Nubs. have offered to help. But you have to send me an eve mail in game detailing the support you would like. Seeing G lose ships makes me belly laugh. They dont know how to fight where they are not always at warp velocity. So the lag forcing them to stay and fight *****s me up. Keep up the good work goons!
Happydayz	Posted - 2006.06.29 15:03:00 - [313] Uhh, to all the Steel Vipers complaining about Goonswarm not attacking when hostiles are present: that's how timezones work. Goonswarm is a predominately US based alliance whereas D2/YouWhat are primarily European based. D2/YouWhat are going to commit dreads to battle during their primetime, and Goonswarm will commit dreads during their primetime. One key element of who will win this war is whomever's off-time players can best hold the line against the enemies primetime fleet. From STV's complaining it looks like they aren't very effective at all during US primetime, whereas Goonswarm is doing rather well for itself fending off D2/STV attacks during European primetime. But this is just one determinent of victory. It remains to be seen which sides logistics, morale, and determination will best the other.
Andraxx	Posted - 2006.06.29 15:12:00 - [314] Edited by: Andraxx on 29/06/2006 15:11:59 @Happydayz: That's not 100% correct. They are also up in our timezone. Of corse at savespot. But they are there. @dirty mick: Aren'tt you that professional heavy miner wich was allowed by stv to mine in xzh for more than a year? Nice to read your friendly comments.
13th	Posted - 2006.06.29 15:14:00 - [315] Originally by: grizouh once again: the goon/shmash dreads only appear when the most of us are already asleep. we had been attacking while there had been around 100 on goonies side because we do not mind the fight and would really enjoy it if it would be playable... I would appreciate it if you would stop using that as an excuse. We live and operate in different timezones. That is a fact. Unless we all take a sick day from work to appease your alliance or all of your pilots stay up far past a reasonable bedtime, we simply will not face each other's forces with equal footing on the weekdays.I expect that the weekends will finally see the two fleets operating near peek numbers for both sides. So please stop using it as an excuse because it has worn thin. The combat forces are not avoiding you.
grizouh	Posted - 2006.06.29 15:26:00 - [316] Originally by: grizouh no, they don¦t cose they prefer to bring ih their dreads when 90% of us are asleep. no blame, just fact. and i would really appreciate if you read what i write. it is not meant as an excuse. of course it is a matter of timezones. but on the other side there are enough goonies when we are attacking and i think we could speak about equal numbers without probs in our evening times. i do not blame goonies at all, the only one i blame atm is ccp!
Cringeley	Posted - 2006.06.29 15:31:00 - [317] If I were CCP I would be getting sick of you blaming them for your lack of timezone coverage. Just get stuck in, enjoy the battles. See my previous post for clarification.
grizouh	Posted - 2006.06.29 15:37:00 - [318] Originally by: Cringeley If I were CCP I would be getting sick of you blaming them for your lack of timezone coverage. Just get stuck in, enjoy the battles. See my previous post for clarification. roflmao outta here, makes no sense to try to argue
Annian	Posted - 2006.06.29 15:44:00 - [319] Edited by: Annian on 29/06/2006 15:46:23 Edited by: Annian on 29/06/2006 15:44:26 Originally by: grizouh the only one i blame atm is ccp! You what? Lets look through your logic here. You pay CCP Ç15 a month for the ability to fill up your free time, right? Now, unless it's fun, you'll stop playing, correct? Now, why on earth would they deliberatly inhibit your playing experience? Tell me. Go on. How the hell is it CCP's fault. Why would CCP - on purpose - lag the clients of a significant portion of their userbase up. You where the fault lies? The level of technology feasible for the Eve server cluster just isn't advanced enough to support hundreds of clients trading huge amounts of data. That's what you should blame. The server cluster. An inanimate object. Let's all criticize a room full of silicon and copper wire. There isn't any blame here, no more than you can blame plate tectonics for earthquakes. Get over it. It just happens.
Aramark	Posted - 2006.06.29 16:03:00 - [320] i blame CCP also.. i blame them for not making my dial-up = to t3 .. oh yeah. can i have a refund too.? GJ on the fighting to both sides keep it up.. nice to see other threads other than..... dare i say the 3 letter name

Purgatori	Posted - 2006.06.29 16:09:00 - [321] Even tho the lagg is very frustrating the past nights have been fantastic With TCF logging off i was beginning to think is this how eve is now ? But the goons thankfully proved me wrong and hours of constant fleet battles as they should be. FUN. Thank you to both sides for neither logging off or running. And both sides just kicking the living hell out of each other! Respect to both sides. Lets see more of the same!~
Trillian Dent	Posted - 2006.06.29 16:24:00 - [322] The real question is: Why was there no lag in EC event beginning of April with 700 peeps in system - attacking mulitple POSs - with I don't know 100s of Mobile warp inhibiters, but in this system there is lag and namingly CCP can't provide resources for that system? just a question. Otherwise we enjoy fighting Goons (better then the chicken heads in venal) and my respect for the Goons for this. Now that we finished our 50 Billion marketing campaign to launch our T R U S T Brand - What's next?
Andyyeo	Posted - 2006.06.29 16:35:00 - [323] Originally by: Trillian Dent The real question is: Why was there no lag in EC event beginning of April with 700 peeps in system - attacking mulitple POSs - with I don't know 100s of Mobile warp inhibiters, but in this system there is lag and namingly CCP can't provide resources for that system? just a question. Otherwise we enjoy fighting Goons (better then the chicken heads in venal) and my respect for the Goons for this. b/c obviously the devs dont like you, nah but whats with all this stuff about lag being the reason adn how ppl dont log on when the other is online, lag is nothing new so you know its gona be there.
Croesus	Posted - 2006.06.29 16:42:00 - [324] Originally by: Happydayz Uhh, to all the Steel Vipers complaining about Goonswarm not attacking when hostiles are present: that's how timezones work. Goonswarm is a predominately US based alliance whereas D2/YouWhat are primarily European based. D2/YouWhat are going to commit dreads to battle during their primetime, and Goonswarm will commit dreads during their primetime. One key element of who will win this war is whomever's off-time players can best hold the line against the enemies primetime fleet. From STV's complaining it looks like they aren't very effective at all during US primetime, whereas Goonswarm is doing rather well for itself fending off D2/STV attacks during European primetime. But this is just one determinent of victory. It remains to be seen which sides logistics, morale, and determination will best the other. Off time, primetime bla bla bla doesnt mean squat who will win. The one who will win is the one who wants it more.
Phichi	Posted - 2006.06.29 16:52:00 - [325] lol deja vu Muggers point out failures in one's personal security measures, but it does not alter the fact that they are muggers.
13th	Posted - 2006.06.29 16:53:00 - [326] Originally by: Trillian Dent The real question is: Why was there no lag in EC event beginning of April with 700 peeps in system - attacking mulitple POSs - with I don't know 100s of Mobile warp inhibiters, but in this system there is lag and namingly CCP can't provide resources for that system? just a question. Otherwise we enjoy fighting Goons (better then the chicken heads in venal) and my respect for the Goons for this. I will let you in on the secret my friend, but only because you leave me no choice. We have the real Hammer. Several months ago, Goon and Smash hatched a plan. This was before Goonfleet was even in the game - they were planning ahead. Deviously. They are devilishly devious. Or deviously devilish, I don't know which. We lured Hammer out from a secluded pub in Iceland with the promise of Boobies. He is chained up in my basement as we speak. If he wants to eat, we force him to change the server load dynamics to favor Goon/Smash forces and timezones. To ensure that he will not be missed at CCP offices we have dressed up one of our people in Icelandic Attire, which according to the Bjork videos that we studied consists of clothing made from goose and ducks and chains. Armed with a set of sunglasses and an Icelandic vocabulary that consists of 'boobies', 'beer' and a few choice insults, we have set our infiltrator loose into the unsuspecting bowels of the CCP headquarters. At first our agent was worried, but repeated usage of 'Boobies' in louder and more excited tones seemed to convince all the employees that he was Hammer, just a different looking Hammer. After all, if Kali will change all the ships to look different, but the same, why can't it happen to the employees? Our agent has in fact confided to us in secret telegrams (because Iceland lacks telephone technology) that CCP employees have been spending more time in the bathroom than before, carefully grooming themselves and inspecting themselves in the mirror to see if they are changing into more beautiful, sexy people. As a side effect of our Hammer infiltrating CCP, he has taken it upon his own initiative to nerf Amarr and Caldari ships into uselessness, as evident from reading the ships forum. Meanwhile, the real Hammer is chained in our basement, feverishly changing the networking loads whenever D2 members log on and returning it back to playable levels when they leave. We sometimes appease his appetite with some **** and pork chops. You cannot survive make your time.
Nicocat	Posted - 2006.06.29 17:10:00 - [327] Hmm. I've been watching a while, and I think lag is being used as a viable weapon. If the Goons wait until D2/STV jump into a POS, THEN launch all of their cans and drones at once, that's deliberately trying to lag out the system. So is typing as fast as possible in local; when 200 people type "lol" 2 or 3 times a second, a server is going to be very unhappy. My vote goes to CCP banning the attacking Goons for being pathetic little munchkins who'd rather lag out their opponents. ---------------------------- The opinions expressed by Nico do not reflect his corporation. He's just an ass. -Alexi Yes, I PvP in a Hookbill. How insane am I? EVE-Mail me and tell me!
Cythereon	Posted - 2006.06.29 17:26:00 - [328] Originally by: Nicocat Hmm. I've been watching a while, and I think lag is being used as a viable weapon. If the Goons wait until D2/STV jump into a POS, THEN launch all of their cans and drones at once, that's deliberately trying to lag out the system. So is typing as fast as possible in local; when 200 people type "lol" 2 or 3 times a second, a server is going to be very unhappy. My vote goes to CCP banning the attacking Goons for being pathetic little munchkins who'd rather lag out their opponents. They're launching DRONES???? How dare they!
Nicocat	Posted - 2006.06.29 17:27:00 - [329] Originally by: Cythereon Originally by: Nicocat Hmm. I've been watching a while, and I think lag is being used as a viable weapon. If the Goons wait until D2/STV jump into a POS, THEN launch all of their cans and drones at once, that's deliberately trying to lag out the system. So is typing as fast as possible in local; when 200 people type "lol" 2 or 3 times a second, a server is going to be very unhappy. My vote goes to CCP banning the attacking Goons for being pathetic little munchkins who'd rather lag out their opponents. They're launching DRONES???? How dare they! Mostly the cargo container spammage, less emphasis on the drones. ---------------------------- The opinions expressed by Nico do not reflect his corporation. He's just an ass. -Alexi Yes, I PvP in a Hookbill. How insane am I? EVE-Mail me and tell me!
Cythereon	Posted - 2006.06.29 17:30:00 - [330] Originally by: Nicocat Originally by: Cythereon Originally by: Nicocat Hmm. I've been watching a while, and I think lag is being used as a viable weapon. If the Goons wait until D2/STV jump into a POS, THEN launch all of their cans and drones at once, that's deliberately trying to lag out the system. So is typing as fast as possible in local; when 200 people type "lol" 2 or 3 times a second, a server is going to be very unhappy. My vote goes to CCP banning the attacking Goons for being pathetic little munchkins who'd rather lag out their opponents. They're launching DRONES???? How dare they! Mostly the cargo container spammage, less emphasis on the drones. Any emphasis on drones is retarded. Contrary to public belief, drones are used in combat to great effect.



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