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DrLogan
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Posted - 2006.06.26 01:31:00 -
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What's with XZH-4X? D2 no longer has sovern., and there are goon everywhere. ^_^
Who gave them big ships. =(
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Svett
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Posted - 2006.06.26 01:33:00 -
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AWESOME!
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Svett
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Posted - 2006.06.26 01:33:00 -
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Edited by: Svett on 26/06/2006 01:34:45
lame double post
whats with all the IIS errors :x
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Ender Potshot
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Posted - 2006.06.26 01:42:00 -
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lawl
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.06.26 01:51:00 -
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For the unwashed masses, what region is XZH in?
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DrLogan
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Posted - 2006.06.26 01:52:00 -
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Cloud Ring.
I'd also like to mention..XZH is a -0.75, the lowest sec system in that region.
*Summons D2*
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Pepperami
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Posted - 2006.06.26 01:53:00 -
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Cloud ring, it used to be G's HQ, and it's got a 10/10 in sys.. I think 
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Nareen Adlen
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Posted - 2006.06.26 01:55:00 -
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They built a base in a system with like 30 a/b/c/m belts without a refinery.
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DrLogan
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Posted - 2006.06.26 01:56:00 -
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Cloud Ring.
I'd also like to mention..XZH is a -0.75, the lowest sec system in that region.
*Summons D2*
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Pepperami
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Posted - 2006.06.26 01:58:00 -
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Edited by: Pepperami on 26/06/2006 02:03:52
 Originally by: Nareen Adlen
They built a base in a system with like 30 a/b/c/m belts without a refinery.
It's an old conquerable.. not built..
EDIT: Post above, "argrn" if you're gonna be a lame alt poster, learn to hide your identity 
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ispyon u
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Posted - 2006.06.26 01:58:00 -
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Edited by: ispyon u on 26/06/2006 02:03:10
Edited by: ispyon u on 26/06/2006 01:59:39
I have pictures!
D2 Station Being Sieged
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Tadis
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Posted - 2006.06.26 02:04:00 -
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So Goons, along with Smash capital support, have taken the old G HQ?
Someone start frapsing please as I love them G/D2 campaign video's :D
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DrLogan
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Posted - 2006.06.26 02:10:00 -
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This won't last for to long. =)
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Tadis
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Posted - 2006.06.26 02:12:00 -
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In their other 2 x regions?
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ispyon u
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Posted - 2006.06.26 02:12:00 -
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The question, Where is D2?
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DrLogan
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Posted - 2006.06.26 02:13:00 -
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I just got an official word..they have ownership of that station now.
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Ispy ongatecamps
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Posted - 2006.06.26 02:14:00 -
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Must be...
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Amerame
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Posted - 2006.06.26 02:15:00 -
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Edited by: Amerame on 26/06/2006 02:17:19
Originally by: Tadis
In their other 2 x regions?
Nope, they are pretty much all in Venal at the moment, not sure if we irrated them with our dreadnought practice on their allies, or if they just got bored of Goon & co.
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hangnoose
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Posted - 2006.06.26 02:19:00 -
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Edited by: hangnoose on 26/06/2006 02:19:44
Originally by: ispyon u
Edited by: ispyon u on 26/06/2006 02:03:10
Edited by: ispyon u on 26/06/2006 01:59:39
I have pictures!
D2 Station Being Sieged
oooo so thats where smash went. 
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Trinity Faetal
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Posted - 2006.06.26 02:21:00 -
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Originally by: hangnoose
Edited by: hangnoose on 26/06/2006 02:19:44
Originally by: ispyon u
Edited by: ispyon u on 26/06/2006 02:03:10
Edited by: ispyon u on 26/06/2006 01:59:39
I have pictures!
D2 Station Being Sieged
oooo so thats where smash went.
i was about to say that  , damn you huzzah!!
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Deitre Cibrus
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Posted - 2006.06.26 02:22:00 -
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Originally by: Pepperami
Edited by: Pepperami on 26/06/2006 02:03:52
Originally by: Nareen Adlen
They built a base in a system with like 30 a/b/c/m belts without a refinery.
It's an old conquerable.. not built..
EDIT: Post above, "argrn" if you're gonna be a lame alt poster, learn to hide your identity
Except argrn is an alt too  . *Goes to shoot his main*
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Originally by: Santiago Cortes
Please don't derail your own thread.
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Dungar Loghoth
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Posted - 2006.06.26 02:41:00 -
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Edited by: Dungar Loghoth on 26/06/2006 02:42:07
I don't know if I picked the best or worst time to leave
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The Slayer
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Posted - 2006.06.26 02:42:00 -
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Edited by: The Slayer on 26/06/2006 02:43:02
GOONS!!!!!
Hahahahahahahahahaha!
Story I have is that the goons got a D2 hauler full of fuel. They then, on a whim, decided to see if maybe the pos's in that system were offline. Which they were. DOH.
But on a more serious note - goons you have not felt the half of what D2 can do. Get ready, I think you just pi**ed them off.
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Ras Blumin
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Posted - 2006.06.26 02:44:00 -
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I think the corp(s) with pos's in XZH has left d2, so noone had sov in that system. Either that, or something messed up the fueling.
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DrLogan
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Posted - 2006.06.26 02:45:00 -
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Edited by: DrLogan on 26/06/2006 02:45:00
Quote:
goons you have not felt the half of what D2 can do. Get ready, I think you just pi**ed them off.
=)
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Tadis
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Posted - 2006.06.26 02:46:00 -
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Paybacks a *****...
But I want another classic movie!
Oh and have fun everyone involved :)
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DrLogan
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Posted - 2006.06.26 02:59:00 -
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Wow, this has to be the funniest thing that has EVER happened to me.
I was just joking around in local, when 1 goon asked for an invite to gang, and I said me to, and they did!
http://img474.imageshack.us/img474/596/image200606252153313348ns.jpg
GG goon fleet commander.
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DrLogan
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Posted - 2006.06.26 03:00:00 -
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Edited by: DrLogan on 26/06/2006 03:00:40
err, lag.
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DrLogan
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Posted - 2006.06.26 03:00:00 -
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Edited by: DrLogan on 26/06/2006 03:00:11
Double post.
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The Slayer
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Posted - 2006.06.26 03:05:00 -
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Wait. Wait wait wait wait wait. So a corp that wasnt D2 let the sov drop on the system. And someone came in and stole the station. Jeez this reminds me of something.... HAH EAT KARMA!
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Orbital Drift
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Posted - 2006.06.26 03:06:00 -
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Originally by: hangnoose
oooo so thats where smash went.
teehee
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Ender Potshot
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Posted - 2006.06.26 03:21:00 -
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Edited by: Ender Potshot on 26/06/2006 03:23:52
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Ender Potshot
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Posted - 2006.06.26 03:21:00 -
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Edited by: Ender Potshot on 26/06/2006 03:23:39
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Ender Potshot
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Posted - 2006.06.26 03:21:00 -
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Ender Potshot
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Posted - 2006.06.26 03:22:00 -
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Edited by: Ender Potshot on 26/06/2006 03:24:12
oops, lag
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DrLogan
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Posted - 2006.06.26 03:26:00 -
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For those of you that didn't look at this pic, a goon said, "in my "Change Station" there is no Orvolle."
And right when this was happening, goon podding themselves was reported..*Wonders what their game plan is*
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Dungar Loghoth
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Posted - 2006.06.26 03:34:00 -
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Originally by: DrLogan
For those of you that didn't look at this pic, a goon said, "in my "Change Station" there is no Orvolle."
And right when this was happening, goon podding themselves was reported..*Wonders what their game plan is*
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Refeirg Atonmi
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Posted - 2006.06.26 03:36:00 -
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Originally by: DrLogan
And right when this was happening, goon podding themselves was reported..*Wonders what their game plan is*
 It's called pod jumping....
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DrLogan
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Posted - 2006.06.26 03:38:00 -
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Originally by: Refeirg Atonmi
Originally by: DrLogan
And right when this was happening, goon podding themselves was reported..*Wonders what their game plan is*
It's called pod jumping....
Yes, I know. I am just still laughing over the fact that they invited an enemy into their gang. ^_^
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Murukan
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Posted - 2006.06.26 04:04:00 -
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i doubt the goons will keep that station for very long
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Isotera
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Posted - 2006.06.26 05:48:00 -
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Originally by: DrLogan
Originally by: Refeirg Atonmi
Originally by: DrLogan
And right when this was happening, goon podding themselves was reported..*Wonders what their game plan is*
It's called pod jumping....
Yes, I know. I am just still laughing over the fact that they invited an enemy into their gang. ^_^
A corp with mostly pilots with less than 5 million SP just captured more or less the capital of Cloud Ring, the best system in the entire region, from arguably the second strongest alliance in the game. OH WAIT THEY INVITED YOU TO THEIR GANG THEREFORE THEY SUCK.
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DrLogan
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Posted - 2006.06.26 05:53:00 -
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Originally by: Isotera
Originally by: DrLogan
Originally by: Refeirg Atonmi
Originally by: DrLogan
And right when this was happening, goon podding themselves was reported..*Wonders what their game plan is*
It's called pod jumping....
Yes, I know. I am just still laughing over the fact that they invited an enemy into their gang. ^_^
A corp with mostly pilots with less than 5 million SP just captured more or less the capital of Cloud Ring, the best system in the entire region, from arguably the second strongest alliance in the game. OH WAIT THEY INVITED YOU TO THEIR GANG THEREFORE THEY SUCK.
I didn't say they suck. But, they didn't take it. Smash did.
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roikorev
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Posted - 2006.06.26 06:22:00 -
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Edited by: roikorev on 26/06/2006 06:23:41
Originally by: DrLogan
I didn't say they suck. But, they didn't take it. Smash did.
I was thinking this thread needed more denial and I found it here. I wouldn't want to diminish smash's contribution as an ally but the fact remains this is a mainly GS effort with dread support from smash. It was the GS fleet that finished off the station, they are the ones with their names on it, and they are the ones that put a 200 person fleet in the system. I find it hilarious that you are simply unable to admit that this was done by "t1 frig noobs".
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Attonasi
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Posted - 2006.06.26 06:26:00 -
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People can make fun of goonfleet all they want, but they are going to be a force in this game moreso than they are even now. They aren't all in rifters anymore either.
I am curious to know who the above posters think are going to kick them out? This is going to be a fun time in cloud and the surrounding areas. Cloud ring has been seriously underpopulated and there has been a vacuum waiting for someone to step in, but now that looks to be changing. Nice move guys.
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DrLogan
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Posted - 2006.06.26 06:29:00 -
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Originally by: roikorev
Edited by: roikorev on 26/06/2006 06:23:41
Originally by: DrLogan
I didn't say they suck. But, they didn't take it. Smash did.
I was thinking this thread needed more denial and I found it here. I wouldn't want to diminish smash's contribution as an ally but the fact remains this is a mainly GS effort with dread support from smash. It was the GS fleet that finished off the station, they are the ones with their names on it, and they are the ones that put a 200 person fleet in the system. I find it hilarious that you are simply unable to admit that this was done by "t1 frig noobs".
I am not unable to admit it..Good for Goon.
But, the fact remains, without the hired mercs, it wouldn't have been successful.
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arjun
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Posted - 2006.06.26 06:34:00 -
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d2 was planning to give the region away since d2 took over branch.
we just could not find a reliable, friendly and strong entity which would take it. 2 of the d2 corps did not want to leave xzh behind and as a result stayed on there with the rest of the alliance living elsewhere.
finaly theese 2 corps left d2 to do their own thing. as a result there was no more souverainity on the system. an invitation for trouble of course.
i have nothing to decide in d2 but i have my own view on d2, goonswarm and cloudring. no idea if d2 comes to fight for the system or if another solution can be found.
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Jurushy
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Posted - 2006.06.26 07:04:00 -
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it is not over yet
to live in NPC systems and in own systems are two diferent things and be sure Goon will expirience this
The best way to hurt someone is to take something worthfully
untill now the goons have only Frigs crusers and a few BS but nothing that is really expensive or need tobe protected
lets see what they will do if they have to fight for a station putup poses to protect them do freighterruns to get full and the other carebear stuff that is needet for a conquerible and/or Outpost station
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Ajaya
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Posted - 2006.06.26 07:26:00 -
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JoeT
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Posted - 2006.06.26 07:35:00 -
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Nice work goons =)
I am having a great laugh.
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Frank Messiah
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Posted - 2006.06.26 08:09:00 -
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Originally by: arjun
Edited by: arjun on 26/06/2006 07:20:42
d2 was planning to give the region away since d2 took over branch.
we just could not find a reliable, friendly and strong entity which would take it. 2 of the d2 corps did not want to leave xzh behind and as a result stayed on there with the rest of the alliance living elsewhere.
finaly theese 2 corps left d2 to do their own thing. as a result there was no more souverainity on the system. an invitation for trouble of course.
Yeah, I'm sure one of the biggest alliances in the game just wants to give up a system with 28 Asteroid belts of a/b/c/m and a 10/10 complex because it isn't worth anything at all. (Insert big rolleyes here) D2 needs to learn to admit a blunder when it happens.
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Jurushy
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Posted - 2006.06.26 08:16:00 -
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Originally by: Frank Messiah
Originally by: arjun
Edited by: arjun on 26/06/2006 07:20:42
d2 was planning to give the region away since d2 took over branch.
we just could not find a reliable, friendly and strong entity which would take it. 2 of the d2 corps did not want to leave xzh behind and as a result stayed on there with the rest of the alliance living elsewhere.
finaly theese 2 corps left d2 to do their own thing. as a result there was no more souverainity on the system. an invitation for trouble of course.
Yeah, I'm sure one of the biggest alliances in the game just wants to give up a system with 28 Asteroid belts of a/b/c/m and a 10/10 complex because it isn't worth anything at all. (Insert big rolleyes here) D2 needs to learn to admit a blunder when it happens.
how stupid are you?
D2 is carebearing (buildup Outposts Poses etc.) in Branch noone of D2 whitout the former D2 corps STV and FSP were living in XZH all other **** the NPC and Belds in BG and the other systems in Branch
So tell me why they fly 25+ jumps for 1!!! <= ONE System that is nice and only nice?
But if u think that they have any intention to tae bae this system they will do it whit 25+ Dreads and a fukingload of support
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Shimpu
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Posted - 2006.06.26 08:26:00 -
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Originally by: Frank Messiah
Originally by: arjun
Edited by: arjun on 26/06/2006 07:20:42
d2 was planning to give the region away since d2 took over branch.
we just could not find a reliable, friendly and strong entity which would take it. 2 of the d2 corps did not want to leave xzh behind and as a result stayed on there with the rest of the alliance living elsewhere.
finaly theese 2 corps left d2 to do their own thing. as a result there was no more souverainity on the system. an invitation for trouble of course.
Yeah, I'm sure one of the biggest alliances in the game just wants to give up a system with 28 Asteroid belts of a/b/c/m and a 10/10 complex because it isn't worth anything at all. (Insert big rolleyes here) D2 needs to learn to admit a blunder when it happens.
Hello Mister Alt. I'm so sorry you don't believe us. 
If you had any clue or intel about D2 you would know that we intended to give away XZH for several weeks now. STV and FSP left D2 because they wanted to stay in XZH.
Go STV, bite them !
Originally by: Seleene
This is what happens when you eat the red M&M's
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Frank Messiah
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Posted - 2006.06.26 08:33:00 -
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Edited by: Frank Messiah on 26/06/2006 08:35:38
Originally by: Shimpu
Hello Mister Alt. I'm so sorry you don't believe us.
If you had any clue or intel about D2 you would know that we intended to give away XZH for several weeks now. STV and FSP left D2 because they wanted to stay in XZH.
Go STV, bite them !
Actually I am not an alt. This is my account. I am the main.
But don't you think that this shows at least some sort of weakness in D2's logistics and infrastructure? If they knew ahead of time that these specific corps would be leaving then why wouldn't you set something up to at least keep sovereignty?
My guess is you want more of a meat shield between yourselves and BoB, right?
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Break Stuff
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Posted - 2006.06.26 08:40:00 -
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Edited by: Break Stuff on 26/06/2006 08:40:44
Originally by: Jurushy
how stupid are you?
You won't get any arguement from Goonfleet about that guy being a retard. They openly admit that they got lucky and had the resources to take advantage of an opportunity that they stumbled upon through sheer, dumb luck. Thats not to say that Goonfleet isn't working their butts off and putting forth an epic effort, because they are. They might be a bunch of people with low skillpoints in frigates and cruisers, but they're willing to put in the time needed to win. Effort and dedication aren't factors you can measure by looking at the character screen, and probably why its hard to predict these crazy fellows.
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Gyro DuAquin1
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Posted - 2006.06.26 08:59:00 -
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lol funny, problem is stv, fsp and more will kick gf out of cr before they even can say "blob"
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Skeltek
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Posted - 2006.06.26 09:06:00 -
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The Goons are a force that is not to be underestimated. Imagine their learning curve combined along with their numbers and their "future skillpoint average".
But back to topic: D2 has given up XZH long ago. Considering the size of D2, XZH is no system to be worthwhile guardian a whole worthless region for just one good system in it.
The only benefit of XZH was the proximity to enemy territory, so you do not have to make that many jumps if you need a dose of PvP.
STV (and FSP) as far as I know asked to stay in the system and hold it(after leaving D2), so our leaders propably do not really care about loosing it I assume, since we left long ago anyway...
kind regards, Skeltek
ps: Some people are going to bite their rears off, if they knew who was one of the suggested to be given XZH to...
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Shimpu
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Posted - 2006.06.26 09:12:00 -
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Originally by: Gyro DuAquin1
lol funny, problem is stv, fsp and more will kick gf out of cr before they even can say "blob"
Hehe, I thought: "Wtf, is he just advertising himself as a goon-commander against STV and FSP???"
Big shock  ...And then I realized it's just your new sig.
Originally by: Seleene
This is what happens when you eat the red M&M's
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Gordon Red
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Posted - 2006.06.26 09:29:00 -
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I find it interesting, that only a very few hours after STV left D2 and the sovereignty dropped, a Goon+Smash fleet mit capitals arrived at XZH.
I think that smells... and I doubt that the two corps left D2 only because they like C-R so much.
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Happydayz
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Posted - 2006.06.26 09:31:00 -
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Originally by: Skeltek
STV (and FSP) as far as I know asked to stay in the system and hold it(after leaving D2), so our leaders propably do not really care about loosing it I assume, since we left long ago anyway...
kind regards, Skeltek
ps: Some people are going to bite their rears off, if they knew who was one of the suggested to be given XZH to...
So are you saying that D2 has no further interests in XZH and Cloud Ring and will remain neutral in the fight for control over the region?
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WildCard
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Posted - 2006.06.26 09:34:00 -
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Since the brids are telling it, yes xzh has lost sov last day, cuz stv ins't anymore D2. Why thats an other story. Gnoon arrived yesterday in xzh with about 150 ships. We (FSP/STV) have had some fights with em. We was eleven, they about 100 and after a while, and they took some losses ,they went at savespot awaiting smash. Well it was about 3:00 in the night and we logged off. So they got the old brave G HQ. so i'm not amused, and that's usualy a fault...
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Skeltek
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Posted - 2006.06.26 09:52:00 -
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Originally by: Happydayz
Wait, so are you saying that D2 has no further interests in XZH and Cloud Ring and will remain neutral in the fight for control over the region?
yes, in the long term most probably. But I do not want to exclude participation, since a few members were unable to evacuate a few of their assets yet because of watching soccer <.<
On the other hand I doubt that STV let souvereignity drop by mistake...
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Jancen Sykes
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Posted - 2006.06.26 09:58:00 -
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Well i think D¦ is still deciding what to do now. And noone should make a statment about that until the lead decided.
The Action of Goons just could be pure dump luck or they have gotten scout and intel inside of D¦. Whatever the reason is, it happened and someone has to deal with it. I wounder what will happening but i guess whatever the outcome and the descission of D¦ lead will be... its going to be interesting.
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grizouh
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Posted - 2006.06.26 10:32:00 -
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time to be active again
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Cell Satimo
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Posted - 2006.06.26 10:33:00 -
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I wondered if anyone would take XZH-4X when the sovereignty dropped.
It's not game over yet for the outpost - there is still no sovereignty showing, so it's open to any decent sized fleet roaming past.
Anyone from [OHGOD] or [D2] care to comment on the POS count in the system?
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Nareen Adlen
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Posted - 2006.06.26 10:56:00 -
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Originally by: Cell Satimo
Anyone from [OHGOD] or [D2] care to comment on the POS count in the system?
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Quarantine
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Posted - 2006.06.26 12:01:00 -
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Originally by: Shimpu
2 of the d2 corps did not want to leave xzh behind and as a result stayed on there with the rest of the alliance living elsewhere.
You're mixing up cause and effect. Us staying in CR is a result of us leaving, not the reason we've left D2. I should know, since I made like 250 jumps with freighters getting our stuff out of Branch ;). Anyway, interesting times ahead.
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voodoo
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Posted - 2006.06.26 12:07:00 -
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nice job goonies
its kinda cool watching them grow into the powerhouse they could become.
come back come back
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Haniblecter Teg
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Posted - 2006.06.26 12:07:00 -
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Good.
Alot of hte pvp'ers in fade/dek/pb have been very anxious for enemies.
Im sure Goon would be an excellent neighbor.
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AltSpy McSpy
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Posted - 2006.06.26 12:43:00 -
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Wait, so D2 doesn't want Cloud Ring anyway? Man, I kind of figured they'd be ****ed and completely freak out, not just write the region off.
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heilio
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Posted - 2006.06.26 13:06:00 -
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Originally by: AltSpy McSpy
Wait, so D2 doesn't want Cloud Ring anyway? Man, I kind of figured they'd be ****ed and completely freak out, not just write the region off.
I don't think people are understanding, D2 wrote it off a while ago, it's just taken this long for anyone to notice D2 arn't even there and haven't been for a while.
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Rexthor Hammerfists
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Posted - 2006.06.26 13:30:00 -
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care to explain why to abandon an outpost, just curios - as i didnt see goons or another factioon there being a threat or somethin,
and the complex there alon should pay out quiete well for the pos required.
or am i wrong?
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Christo
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Posted - 2006.06.26 13:56:00 -
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The outpost is still in FADE not Cloud Ring!
christo
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Mr Dogg
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Posted - 2006.06.26 14:05:00 -
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Never thought I'd say it, But good job Goonswarm. Lay a disabling blow to D2 no matter what they say "We were giving it up." Blah blah blah a loss is a loss. You couldn't of chossen a better alliance to bend over and make them call you daddy.
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Nicocat
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Posted - 2006.06.26 14:12:00 -
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Next time, if you're going to abandon a region and let enemies take over, please tell corps friendly to you so we can get our stuff out...
*sniffs, wiping a tear away for his raven* I'll miss ya, boy.
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-Alexi
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grizouh
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Posted - 2006.06.26 14:28:00 -
[75]
Edited by: grizouh on 26/06/2006 14:28:52
xzh does not have an outpost but a conq. station
xzh has always been STV area.
stv left D2 -> loss of claim
d2 does not care about xzh anymore
goon only took advantage of the situation and they even needed help.
if they will keep it, we will see...
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Asuna
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Posted - 2006.06.26 14:54:00 -
[76]
Edited by: Asuna on 26/06/2006 14:54:55
Originally by: grizouh
Edited by: grizouh on 26/06/2006 14:39:37
Edited by: grizouh on 26/06/2006 14:28:52
goon only took advantage of the situation and they even needed help.
if they will keep it? we will see...
Needed help? There hasnt been any hostile resistance in the system for about 18 hours or so. Dreads or no, the station would've gone down. The Dreads being involved just made things conveniently fast. (<3 SMASH) |
natashii
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Posted - 2006.06.26 15:07:00 -
[77]
bahahahaha.
ha...
oh gawd.
That just made my day.
and NOW for the goons- "Guys, please I NEED this XZH-4X sovereignty"
peace out.
P.S. DRAC DON'T KILL ME FOR POSTING ;) I couldn't help myself. I'm a suckah for comedy.
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For God's sake, shake me. Shake me like a British nanny.
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Goberth Ludwig
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Posted - 2006.06.26 15:08:00 -
[78]
wow any press release coming as to why STV decided to part from D2 ?
- Gob
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grizouh
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Posted - 2006.06.26 15:24:00 -
[79]
Originally by: Goberth Ludwig
wow any press release coming as to why STV decided to part from D2 ?
Dunno gob, but it is not that important or? <g>
give wild a convo if ur really interested in.
atm there are more important things for us to sort out.
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Lunas Feelgood
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Posted - 2006.06.26 15:36:00 -
[80]
HAHA all our fans really like this???
To all our fans who would love to see us getting killled, ERA, OCC and every1 els who dont got the skills or the balls to do anything in this game beside using big words on the forum.. Well im sorry to say its not a D2 sys so rally nothing to worry about..
And to goons as you know I have always respected you alot since we first encountered you guys however you need to stop this alt crap guys
And btw very nice to take the outpost when sov was down
However do we gonna respond??? Maybe
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Peoke
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Posted - 2006.06.26 15:55:00 -
[81]
Guys as per bobs continual statments smash is dead so plz dont talk about them. were dead and no longer in game
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Lunas Feelgood
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Posted - 2006.06.26 16:00:00 -
[82]
Originally by: Peoke
Guys as per bobs continual statments smash is dead so plz dont talk about them. were dead and no longer in game
ok be quite then
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Shimpu
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Posted - 2006.06.26 16:03:00 -
[83]
Originally by: Peoke
Guys as per bobs continual statments smash is dead so plz dont talk about them. were dead and no longer in game
Free bump to boost your publicity. Looks like you need it 
Originally by: Seleene
This is what happens when you eat the red M&M's
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Fuuk mi
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Posted - 2006.06.26 16:20:00 -
[84]
Edited by: Fuuk mi on 26/06/2006 16:20:37
Originally by: Lunas Feelgood
skills or the balls
i think you mean blob numbers
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Cohkka
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Posted - 2006.06.26 16:25:00 -
[85]
I'm amazed, so many people think Goons are the powerhouse now. They have yet to achive something worthwhile as an alliance.
They have yet to show that they're not a punching bag and can stay on their own feet controling regions.
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Hessi
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Posted - 2006.06.26 16:26:00 -
[86]
Originally by: Lunas Feelgood
And to goons as you know I have always respected you alot since we first encountered you guys however you need to stop this alt crap guys
And btw very nice to take the stn when sov was down
Lunas Feelgood complaining about alts?
10 easy steps on how to mess up your alliance, anyone?
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natashii
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Posted - 2006.06.26 16:34:00 -
[87]
Originally by: Hessi
10 easy steps on how to mess up your alliance, anyone?
Step one
We can have lots of fun
Step two
Theres so much we can do
Step three
Its just you and me
Step four
I can give you more
Step five
Dont you know the time has arrived
/apologizes but couldn't resist.
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Edoo
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Posted - 2006.06.26 16:41:00 -
[88]
Originally by: Lunas Feelgood
stop this alt crap guys
You need to stop the main crap.
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13th
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Posted - 2006.06.26 17:06:00 -
[89]
Originally by: Cohkka
I'm amazed, so many people think Goons are the powerhouse now. They have yet to achive something worthwhile as an alliance.
Seizing control of a system with a 10/10 complex and a conquerable station sounds like a pretty worthwhile action for an alliance to me.
Only time will tell if they can keep control of the system, but I would say that this is a pretty significant achievement for a young alliance with many newer pod pilots.
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Chi Prime
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Posted - 2006.06.26 17:06:00 -
[90]
Originally by: The Slayer
Wait. Wait wait wait wait wait. So a corp that wasnt D2 let the sov drop on the system. And someone came in and stole the station. Jeez this reminds me of something.... HAH EAT KARMA!
rofl
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Frakri Hogsto
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Posted - 2006.06.26 17:07:00 -
[91]
wonder how long its gonna take be4 this become a BoB tread
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Lunas Feelgood
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Posted - 2006.06.26 17:23:00 -
[92]
Originally by: Chi Prime
Originally by: The Slayer
Wait. Wait wait wait wait wait. So a corp that wasnt D2 let the sov drop on the system. And someone came in and stole the station. Jeez this reminds me of something.... HAH EAT KARMA!
rofl
Yes becuase we all know that havent chosen surrendered ERA would have kept the stn right??
Again i have never seen so quite a war ever and I totally understand you ERA guys its always better blame some1 els then you own incompetence and you lack of fighting..
Anyway i wont comment in this thread again you pathetic excuse of fighters are not worth my time and like the great dP would have sayd: All I see is dead people..
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2006.06.26 17:29:00 -
[93]
Originally by: Frakri Hogsto
wonder how long its gonna take be4 this become a BoB tread
Yeah, I wonder...
... as the irony drips from Frakris' post.
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Jobie Thickburger
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Posted - 2006.06.26 17:46:00 -
[94]
Edited by: Jobie Thickburger on 26/06/2006 17:47:16
What Can you say as a neutral in the matter other than Congrats?
Good Job guys on taking the Station. Way to show that having strong friends is just as good as being strong yourself (not saying GF can't put up a fight if they want to).
Best of luck in Holding the Station guys,
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As for D2, Hey, They lost a system that they say they didn't want. Good enough for me. Personally, I can't sit here and say that its not a good region they are leaving, as one man's trash is another man's treasure.... Shoot I'd kill to have Easy all day access to Megacyte... And moving on to a better region is good enough a reason to leave 1 great system surrounded by a few bad ones.
Besides, I'd do the same thing If I knew streching myself thin across 2 (or is it 3 including that one?) regions is worse than having one region unbeatable...
Anyway, Have fun with the fights there! Good luck GF in holding off the ones who try to take it from ya, Should be an interesting fight!
LOL, just noticed what I said..... "I'd kill to have access to..." Just about what you have to do anyway...
Back to the scordite mines....
EDIT: Fixed Typo (please note Typo =/= Bad Spelling habits)
CEO - MGTTG
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AltSpy McSpy
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Posted - 2006.06.26 17:46:00 -
[95]
Hey, at least the thread isn't COMPLETELY clogged with alts yet, right?
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Ender Potshot
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Posted - 2006.06.26 18:01:00 -
[96]
Edited by: Ender Potshot on 26/06/2006 18:02:25
no, no alts here.
this account is my main alt.
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Bavarian Punk
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Posted - 2006.06.26 18:02:00 -
[97]
Can you do the 10/10 plex in frigs? Sorry, could not resist. 
Smart move bees. Very good timing indeed. But it almost looks like you are really begging for some more serious whoopass.
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Cohkka
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Posted - 2006.06.26 19:06:00 -
[98]
Originally by: 13th
Originally by: Cohkka
I'm amazed, so many people think Goons are the powerhouse now. They have yet to achive something worthwhile as an alliance.
Only time will tell if they can keep control of the system, but I would say that this is a pretty significant achievement for a young alliance with many newer pod pilots.
A mid sized corp is capeable of doing it (considering the ease of claiming an undefended system without sovereign). And you said it pretty much yourself: Asuming the information is right, they already lost it, what's your point?
Quote:
you wont kill many of their ships as they are always at warp velocity, but their stations and pos's actually have to sit there and fight.
Well said, hypocrit.
Don't speak english, just F5, F5, F5... |
Sad alt
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Posted - 2006.06.26 19:15:00 -
[99]
Yes I am an alt since if i posted as a main damage control central would have my butt in a sling.
#1 A bad as it is to say we should give credit to goons for what they have done.
#2 They will never be allowed to hold it and should not since it is to embarasing to us and sooner or later a dagger in our side. You are still T1 nubs and can't hope to hold our 10% of our strength back from taking what is ours.
#3 Worst part for us is the rampant backpedaling our members are doing. Lance Armstrong(dang colonial) could not ever claim "I meant to lose" as fast as we are. Grab your biscuts and fight dont claim self castration.
Look forward to killing you goonies but you gained my respect as least.
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General Hansen
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Posted - 2006.06.26 19:18:00 -
[100]
It was better when lunas wasnt allowed to post on these forums by E-R =I
Rock on Lunas, will get a laugh soon again.
HIHI |
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Deidranna
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Posted - 2006.06.26 19:39:00 -
[101]
Sig image was way too large -Abdalion
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Yazoul Samaiel
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Posted - 2006.06.26 19:48:00 -
[102]
Originally by: Ras Blumin
I think the corp(s) with pos's in XZH has left d2, so noone had sov in that system. Either that, or something messed up the fueling.
What goes around comes around i think , GO GOONS
"What ever that doesn't Kill me just makes me stronger"
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Raste
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Posted - 2006.06.26 19:52:00 -
[103]
Haha, nice job Goons.
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Valkazm
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Posted - 2006.06.26 20:38:00 -
[104]
Yeah keep flip flopping over there
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Califax Oman
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Posted - 2006.06.26 20:57:00 -
[105]
Mining Bytes wishes its best for the Goons. Screw all the critics, you guys have earned respect. What was once a bunch of noobs flying frigs are now an alliance captureing stations building goon hives here and there. Props to you guys, Don't stop now.
Go Goons Go!
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Constantine Arcanum
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Posted - 2006.06.26 21:00:00 -
[106]
Originally by: Bavarian Punk
Can you do the 10/10 plex in frigs? Sorry, could not resist.
Smart move bees. Very good timing indeed. But it almost looks like you are really begging for some more serious whoopass.
They already did one afaik
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SaorAlba
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Posted - 2006.06.26 21:01:00 -
[107]
Lights up his sigar and takes a deep puff
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Ceres Starshine
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Posted - 2006.06.26 21:51:00 -
[108]
Thanks for the good hospitality from D2.They succsesfully destroyed the support fleet of Gaia came to assist them with their combat. Proud to be friendly with D2 !!!
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Gazmus
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Posted - 2006.06.26 22:02:00 -
[109]
Originally by: General Hansen
It was better when lunas wasnt allowed to post on these forums by E-R =I
Rock on Lunas, will get a laugh soon again.
I never knew they let him post again Lunas shush u know forums are bad!!
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Yazoul Samaiel
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Posted - 2006.06.26 22:04:00 -
[110]
Originally by: General Hansen
It was better when lunas wasnt allowed to post on these forums by E-R =I
Rock on Lunas, will get a laugh soon again.
Couldnt agree more
"What ever that doesn't Kill me just makes me stronger"
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Frakri Hogsto
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Posted - 2006.06.26 22:18:00 -
[111]
Edited by: Frakri Hogsto on 26/06/2006 22:19:10
Beutifull Only Blob would normaly do something like that, But Other Big alliaences might have Been Out Befor them also
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What you gonna do, when I come for yoU?!
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ispyon u
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Posted - 2006.06.26 22:22:00 -
[112]
Goon are gone, giant fleet of D2/stv/fsp re-taking the station, over 200+ in local.
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NereSky
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Posted - 2006.06.26 22:27:00 -
[113]
Originally by: Ceres Starshine
Thanks for the good hospitality from D2.They succsesfully destroyed the support fleet of Gaia came to assist them with their combat. Proud to be friendly with D2 !!!
0.o
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Cerridwehn Odessa
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Posted - 2006.06.26 23:03:00 -
[114]
lol.. you are idiotic to the max. a disabling blow.. oh man.. that's a good one. OH MY GOD THEY TOOK A D2 STATION THAT D2 IS HARDLY EVER AROUND CUZ THEY LIVE IN FRIGGIN BRANCH. DISABLEDDDDDDDDD CANCEL ACCOUNTS!!!!
nubs.. aren't you guys in a competitive tetris league or something?
Originally by: Mr Dogg
Never thought I'd say it, But good job Goonswarm. Lay a disabling blow to D2 no matter what they say "We were giving it up." Blah blah blah a loss is a loss. You couldn't of chossen a better alliance to bend over and make them call you daddy.
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Ender Potshot
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Posted - 2006.06.26 23:04:00 -
[115]
Originally by: ispyon u
Edited by: ispyon u on 26/06/2006 22:29:11
Goon are still in the system, but a giant fleet of D2/stv/fsp re-taking the station, over 200+ in local.
Can you get us some more pictures?
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AltSpy McSpy
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Posted - 2006.06.26 23:06:00 -
[116]
Watching the PR war is almost as fun as reading about what the fleets themselves are doing. 
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DrLogan
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Posted - 2006.06.26 23:06:00 -
[117]
D2 taking it back.. Linkage
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DrLogan
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Posted - 2006.06.26 23:18:00 -
[118]
And another cooler pic: Linkage
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Fetor
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Posted - 2006.06.26 23:19:00 -
[119]
Just had another engagement where Remedial lost his Thanatos.
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sidthesexist
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Posted - 2006.06.26 23:24:00 -
[120]
pic of remedial loosing his thanatosand heres a
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Euphoria Released
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Dinique
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Posted - 2006.06.26 23:25:00 -
[121]
Remedy go bang bang.
Fraps ftw
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There's so many different worlds
So many different suns
And we have just one world
But we live in different ones
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Martin Mckenna
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Posted - 2006.06.26 23:30:00 -
[122]
great fight on both sides. no smack in local. respect goonfleet
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AltSpy McSpy
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Posted - 2006.06.26 23:31:00 -
[123]
Remedial loses carriers every other day.
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Fetor
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Posted - 2006.06.26 23:33:00 -
[124]
Originally by: AltSpy McSpy
Remedial loses carriers every other day.
Usually to NPC's tho
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Miss Greenhill
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Posted - 2006.06.26 23:38:00 -
[125]
Edited by: Miss Greenhill on 26/06/2006 23:38:33
Originally by: AltSpy McSpy
Remedial loses carriers every other day.
That wasn't Rem flying the thing.
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captian jackharkness
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Posted - 2006.06.26 23:45:00 -
[126]
GOON hired ... SMASH? They must be shot of cash or else could have hired an alliance of people other than miners. Those dreads usually have mining lasers fitted
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Mask Rayne
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Posted - 2006.06.26 23:46:00 -
[127]
Originally by: NereSky
Originally by: Ceres Starshine
Thanks for the good hospitality from D2.They succsesfully destroyed the support fleet of Gaia came to assist them with their combat. Proud to be friendly with D2 !!!
0.o
yes very interesting move'''
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Little Zergling
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Posted - 2006.06.27 00:00:00 -
[128]
Edited by: Little Zergling on 27/06/2006 00:01:46
Originally by: Mask Rayne
Edited by: Mask Rayne on 26/06/2006 23:46:12
Originally by: NereSky
Originally by: Ceres Starshine
Thanks for the good hospitality from D2.They succsesfully destroyed the support fleet of Gaia came to assist them with their combat. Proud to be friendly with D2 !!!
0.o
yes very interesting move!
Not really suprising, considering that according to this screenshot:
http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/6042/siege5cq.jpg
GOON are working with SMASH to attack the station, and GAIA were recently working with SMASH for whatever purposes they had:
http://img474.imageshack.us/img474/8338/gaiasmash3zn.jpg
But congrats to D2 for taking back the station. It just feels so good when the good guys win
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DrLogan
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Posted - 2006.06.27 00:00:00 -
[129]
I got podded =x
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/7289/goonhappened0ue.jpg
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Quarantine
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Posted - 2006.06.27 00:04:00 -
[130]
Edited by: Quarantine on 27/06/2006 00:04:33
Originally by: ispyon u
Goon are still in the system, but a giant fleet of D2/stv/fsp re-taking the station, over 200+ in local.
stv/fsp are now known as YouWhat. Don't ask.
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Shittake
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Posted - 2006.06.27 00:15:00 -
[131]
Edited by: ****take on 27/06/2006 00:17:32
Originally by: Quarantine
Edited by: Quarantine on 27/06/2006 00:04:33
Originally by: ispyon u
Goon are still in the system, but a giant fleet of D2/stv/fsp re-taking the station, over 200+ in local.
stv/fsp are now known as YouWhat. Don't ask.
YouWhat? Who? Where? The creator of that alliance must be crazy . . wait . . uh
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Deitre Cibrus
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Posted - 2006.06.27 00:18:00 -
[132]
Goonfleet now controls it again.
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Originally by: Santiago Cortes
Please don't derail your own thread.
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Gordon Red
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Posted - 2006.06.27 00:30:00 -
[133]
No wonder, they got it yesterday and now, because it is night here....
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Stamm
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Posted - 2006.06.27 00:34:00 -
[134]
Originally by: sidthesexist
Edited by: sidthesexist on 26/06/2006 23:31:08
and heres a pic of remedial loosing his thanatos
Nice! Whoever got the killmail can have my Vinko Maximo manlove voucher.
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Lorth
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Posted - 2006.06.27 00:46:00 -
[135]
I suspect the station will do the time zone shuffle for the next couple days untill someone gets soverty.
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Nicocat
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Posted - 2006.06.27 00:49:00 -
[136]
I just buzzed in and out in a Raven. Not fun down there still.
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-Alexi
Yes, I PvP in a Hookbill. How insane am I? EVE-Mail me and tell me! |
ispyon u
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Posted - 2006.06.27 01:04:00 -
[137]
anyone know if Goon has taken the station back?
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mootehfuck
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Posted - 2006.06.27 01:08:00 -
[138]
Edited by: mooteh**** on 27/06/2006 01:07:53
lol not like goon could do much with a 10/10 complex , you cant zerg them
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Valkazm
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Posted - 2006.06.27 01:11:00 -
[139]
Originally by: Lorth
I suspect the station will do the time zone shuffle for the next couple days untill someone gets soverty.
And now we know D2 Achilles heel
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Gordon Red
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Posted - 2006.06.27 01:14:00 -
[140]
and yours
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13th
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Posted - 2006.06.27 01:23:00 -
[141]
Originally by: ispyon u
anyone know if Goon has taken the station back?
Pew pew pew!
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Lorth
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Posted - 2006.06.27 01:26:00 -
[142]
Edited by: Lorth on 27/06/2006 01:30:40
Originally by: Valkazm
Originally by: Lorth
I suspect the station will do the time zone shuffle for the next couple days untill someone gets soverty.
And now we know D2 Achilles heel
Who would have thunk it? An allience formed largely of the old "German" allience is largely active in euro timezones.
Its the same with more or less every other allience. Its a mostly euro game, and people like me with real jobs, living in Northamerica, miss out on all the cool stuff 
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Bippa
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Posted - 2006.06.27 01:27:00 -
[143]
Originally by: mooteh****
Edited by: mooteh**** on 27/06/2006 01:07:53
lol not like goon could do much with a 10/10 complex , you cant zerg them
Shows what you now. 100 frigates handle a 10/10 just fine.
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ispyon u
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Posted - 2006.06.27 02:01:00 -
[144]
Looks like they Moved on to 9-4 Station, 1 jump from XZH
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KHEN
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Posted - 2006.06.27 02:09:00 -
[145]
Edited by: KHEN on 27/06/2006 02:15:00
Originally by: Little Zergling
Edited by: Little Zergling on 27/06/2006 00:01:46
Originally by: Mask Rayne
Edited by: Mask Rayne on 26/06/2006 23:46:12
Originally by: NereSky
Originally by: Ceres Starshine
Thanks for the good hospitality from D2.They succsesfully destroyed the support fleet of Gaia came to assist them with their combat. Proud to be friendly with D2 !!!
0.o
yes very interesting move!
Not really suprising, considering that according to this screenshot:
http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/6042/siege5cq.jpg
GOON are working with SMASH to attack the station, and GAIA were recently working with SMASH for whatever purposes they had:
http://img474.imageshack.us/img474/8338/gaiasmash3zn.jpg
But congrats to D2 for taking back the station. It just feels so good when the good guys win
1] post with your main, coward trouble maker
2] you are not involved in GAIA nor in D2, mind of your business
3] GAIA hired SMASH in the past, yes, as mercenaries.
4] As far as i know hiring mercenaries is not marrying with them
5] stop posting dumb attempts to discredit GAIA : Linkage
6] GAIA is honorable, otherwise I would have left it,
7] I'm honorable word trustable person, dozens of pod pilots from many alliances and corps will confirm that.
And you ?
I have good friends in D2, GAIA is on the side of D2, our ships got destroyed because of miscommunication, we wanted to help so fast that nobody reminded that we had our standings temporarly reset with D2. Our diplo will work on this soon
regards,
KHEN
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Liquid Vision
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Posted - 2006.06.27 02:40:00 -
[146]
Originally by: KHEN
Edited by: KHEN on 27/06/2006 02:15:00
Originally by: Little Zergling
Edited by: Little Zergling on 27/06/2006 00:01:46
Originally by: Mask Rayne
Edited by: Mask Rayne on 26/06/2006 23:46:12
Originally by: NereSky
Originally by: Ceres Starshine
Thanks for the good hospitality from D2.They succsesfully destroyed the support fleet of Gaia came to assist them with their combat. Proud to be friendly with D2 !!!
0.o
yes very interesting move!
Not really suprising, considering that according to this screenshot:
http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/6042/siege5cq.jpg
GOON are working with SMASH to attack the station, and GAIA were recently working with SMASH for whatever purposes they had:
http://img474.imageshack.us/img474/8338/gaiasmash3zn.jpg
But congrats to D2 for taking back the station. It just feels so good when the good guys win
1] post with your main, coward trouble maker
2] you are not involved in GAIA nor in D2, mind of your business
3] GAIA hired SMASH in the past, yes, as mercenaries.
4] As far as i know hiring mercenaries is not marrying with them
5] stop posting dumb attempts to discredit GAIA : Linkage
6] GAIA is honorable, otherwise I would have left it,
7] I'm honorable word trustable person, dozens of pod pilots from many alliances and corps will confirm that.
And you ?
I have good friends in D2, GAIA is on the side of D2, our ships got destroyed because of miscommunication, we wanted to help so fast that nobody reminded that we had our standings temporarly reset with D2. Our diplo will work on this soon
regards,
KHEN
Goon hired ROME as mercenaries. Those high schoolers that run that alliance just have the rest of the corps slave for them to build their cap ships. Notice only SMASH folks in the system belong to ROME and 1 Unknown Shoe Corp. Maybe Peoke and Emperor's mothers are letting them play past 10 pm now that it's the summer. Get back to whipping your slaves kiddies so you can get enough cap ships to actually hold the damn station. |
natashii
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Posted - 2006.06.27 04:18:00 -
[147]
Originally by: Stamm
Nice! Whoever got the killmail can have my Vinko Maximo manlove voucher.
Something tells me that Vinko is not even aware that he has a manlove voucher available.
Be afraid Vinko. Be very afraid.
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For God's sake, shake me. Shake me like a British nanny.
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Zulak
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Posted - 2006.06.27 05:34:00 -
[148]
Edited by: Zulak on 27/06/2006 05:38:58
2006.06.27 05:28:57 notify The station D2 Woodyhausen has been captured by GoonWaffe corporation!
It was kind of cool since I was inside the station when it happened.
Edit:
New name: Leeloo Dallas Multipass
lol
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nickycakes
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Posted - 2006.06.27 05:43:00 -
[149]
Originally by: Zulak
New name: Leeloo Dallas Multipass
quality
Rarely Outnumbered, Usually Outgunned, Never Outsmacked
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Kay Han
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Posted - 2006.06.27 06:13:00 -
[150]
Originally by: Zulak
New name: Leeloo Dallas Multipass
At least the goonies have a little bit humor
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A wise man said once:
'Violence is the escape of the mentaly poor guys.'
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DrLogan
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Posted - 2006.06.27 06:50:00 -
[151]
Not over yet ;p
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Phoenix Pryde
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Posted - 2006.06.27 07:30:00 -
[152]
Originally by: nickycakes
Originally by: Zulak
New name: Leeloo Dallas Multipass
quality
nice name indeed
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Mogubu
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Posted - 2006.06.27 10:32:00 -
[153]
Originally by: Little Zergling
Not really suprising,
Suprising tho to see this alt still around, since the raison d'etre aint around since a few days. Havent you made enough of a fool of yourself yet?
Post with your main.
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Shaala
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Posted - 2006.06.27 11:03:00 -
[154]
#1 Excelent move @ Goonfleet. Does not take much skill to conquer a given up system, but it shows you had brains that others did not ; ) (my opinion)
#2 D2(or STV to be exact) are such Noobs for loosing a given up system to you. (guess who¦s opinion this is)
#3 You managed to archieve something, that certain other alliances were incapable to. (I guess that makes the people look lame that are posting opinion #2 in this thread)
#4 My Corporation never even considered conquering a station ourselfs, so we are the lamest around I guess. (my brothers opinion ^^) |
Zillazuki
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Posted - 2006.06.27 11:10:00 -
[155]
Originally by: Shaala
#1 Excelent move @ Goonfleet. Does not take much skill to conquer a given up system, but it shows you had brains that others did not ; ) (my opinion)
#2 D2(or STV to be exact) are such Noobs for loosing a given up system to you. (guess who¦s opinion this is)
#3 You managed to archieve something, that certain other alliances were incapable to. (I guess that makes the people look lame that are posting opinion #2 in this thread)
#4 My Corporation never even considered conquering a station ourselfs, so we are the lamest around I guess. (my brothers opinion ^^)
Interesting...you had me stroking my chin and nodding with that post. Thank you.
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Jurushy
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Posted - 2006.06.27 11:15:00 -
[156]
Originally by: Shaala
#1 Excelent move @ Goonfleet. Does not take much skill to conquer a given up system, but it shows you had brains that others did not ; ) (my opinion)
#2 D2(or STV to be exact) are such Noobs for loosing a given up system to you. (guess who¦s opinion this is)
#3 You managed to archieve something, that certain other alliances were incapable to. (I guess that makes the people look lame that are posting opinion #2 in this thread)
#4 My Corporation never even considered conquering a station ourselfs, so we are the lamest around I guess. (my brothers opinion ^^)
noobs dont kill goons whit shuttles
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Kay Han
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Posted - 2006.06.27 11:52:00 -
[157]
Originally by: Shaala
#1 Excelent move @ Goonfleet. Does not take much skill to conquer a given up system, but it shows you had brains that others did not ; ) (my opinion)
It was only good timing (maybe information too... Conspiracytheory any1?)
Quote:
#2 D2(or STV to be exact) are such Noobs for loosing a given up system to you. (guess who¦s opinion this is)
Goonfleet / smash had number which StV / FSP didn¦t had.
They outblobbed them and took the station.
Quote:
#3 You managed to archieve something, that certain other alliances were incapable to. (I guess that makes the people look lame that are posting opinion #2 in this thread)
Further explaination?
To take a system, you need a big capital fleet these days.
shoot down POS¦ses, shoot down more POS¦ses, Shoot down even more POS¦ses etc... you get the point?
Something the most alliances can¦t make because of logistical problems.
Just look at EC.
How many alliances were involved in the lockdown? and how long it took until the last POS was destroyed.
So again.. the goonies were on the right place at the right time.
Quote:
#4 My Corporation never even considered conquering a station ourselfs, so we are the lamest around I guess. (my brothers opinion ^^)
Yes i totally agree here..
Even we (DUST) conquered a station.. (ok we had it for 2,5 days.. but we had one)
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A wise man said once:
'Violence is the escape of the mentaly poor guys.'
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grizouh
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Posted - 2006.06.27 12:04:00 -
[158]
Edited by: grizouh on 27/06/2006 12:05:22
Originally by: ****take
YouWhat? Who? Where? The creator of that alliance must be crazy . . wait . . uh
Just say you have been forced by teh ebil wildcard
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Esaam DeVries
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Posted - 2006.06.27 12:15:00 -
[159]
Originally by: Kay Han
Just look at EC.
and how long it took until the last POS was destroyed.
It took about 7 days but I don't think the EC can be used as the "norm" for pos warefare. For example, the last pos went into reinforced for more than 3d (oh boy, that were the days).
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WildCard
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Posted - 2006.06.27 12:18:00 -
[160]
Well, yes STV left D2 cuz we are about to change our gameplay. We got a bit bored about endless POS setup, frighter runs and other industrial things for which we are forced more or less by ccp. To make it short: we donÆt want to play SimCity.
Ok goons have much more players as we. ThatÆs not a real prob since we a able to force em to savespot if we outnumber their 150ppl fleet in case we are more then ten. Lots of em are camping 23/7, ok most of em from inside station. The gnoons at the gate are easy targetÆs as usual. The annoying part is, that they always come out of their cave past midnight. Also smash is always logging in, if they are sure we stay in bed. But ok thatÆs how eve is these days.
However STV was holding XZH station as STV, as G-Member, as D2 for over 2 years. Last weeks we already moved all important asserts out of XZH, so thatÆs no real problem, and loosing that station is a bit overrated. What as last is realy fine, we have a ****load of enemyÆs behind next door As I begun, we change our gameplayà..
-WildCard CEO SteelVipers-
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--- G4Ever-- |
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Kay Han
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Posted - 2006.06.27 12:21:00 -
[161]
Originally by: Esaam DeVries
Originally by: Kay Han
Just look at EC.
and how long it took until the last POS was destroyed.
It took about 7 days but I don't think the EC can be used as the "norm" for pos warefare. For example, the last pos went into reinforced for more than 3d (oh boy, that were the days).
was just the first one which came into my mind
ok.. it¦s the only one which will ever come into my mind atm.
Under normal circumstances this topic wouldn¦t exist
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A wise man said once:
'Violence is the escape of the mentaly poor guys.'
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AltSpy McSpy
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Posted - 2006.06.27 12:33:00 -
[162]
So, can we get a morning update?
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Nicocat
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Posted - 2006.06.27 14:06:00 -
[163]
Originally by: AltSpy McSpy
So, can we get a morning update?
*shuffles in with a cup of coffee* Well, our top story today is that Cloud Ring is still boned. Let's go to Ollie with our "How is our POS doing" forecast. Ollie?
**** GONNA GET STOMPED!
Thank you, Ollie. I'm going back to bed... I mean... work. Right, work.
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The opinions expressed by Nico do not reflect his corporation. He's just an ass.
-Alexi
Yes, I PvP in a Hookbill. How insane am I? EVE-Mail me and tell me! |
Kinsy
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Posted - 2006.06.27 14:13:00 -
[164]
Hi,
This is a priority 1 support call for D2.
Can you please sort out XZH, I have a jump clone there and the Goons might molest it.
Regards,
Ki...
Oh wait...thats not outlook...
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Deidranna
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Posted - 2006.06.27 14:51:00 -
[165]
Edited by: Deidranna on 27/06/2006 14:52:48
all jumpclones stored in xzh have been used to feed the local visitors.
next time pls give us some days to prepare for such big partys.
thx in advance
deidranna
Sig image was way too large -Abdalion
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Nicocat
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Posted - 2006.06.27 14:59:00 -
[166]
Now, now, everyone knows the Goons like their corpses wiggly and alive, not stuck in stasis.
Also, news to me: taking over a station moves clones within it to a different, more friendly station. *cue star* The more you know!
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The opinions expressed by Nico do not reflect his corporation. He's just an ass.
-Alexi
Yes, I PvP in a Hookbill. How insane am I? EVE-Mail me and tell me! |
Esaam DeVries
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Posted - 2006.06.27 15:02:00 -
[167]
Edited by: Esaam DeVries on 27/06/2006 15:02:49
Originally by: Kinsy
Hi,
This is a priority 1 support call for D2.
Can you please sort out XZH, I have a jump clone there and the Goons might molest it.
Welcome to Dusk and Dawn support center.
You are number #982 in the line. Your call is important to us.
In order to improve our Gank quality, your position and call might be monitored.
For a clone held in hostage in XZH, press 1
For a D2 fleet stuck in your garden, press 2
For a D2 starbase taking over your home system, press 3
If you want to speak to a D2 representative, please, hold the line.
Thank you.
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Myndarlegur
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Posted - 2006.06.27 15:10:00 -
[168]
Seems like D2 is getting stomped.
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Califax Oman
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Posted - 2006.06.27 15:16:00 -
[169]
Go Goons Go!
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Gradinger
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Posted - 2006.06.27 15:22:00 -
[170]
Originally by: Esaam DeVries
Edited by: Esaam DeVries on 27/06/2006 15:02:49
Originally by: Kinsy
Hi,
This is a priority 1 support call for D2.
Can you please sort out XZH, I have a jump clone there and the Goons might molest it.
Welcome to Dusk and Dawn support center.
You are number #982 in the line. Your call is important to us.
In order to improve our Gank quality, your position and call might be monitored.
For a clone held in hostage in XZH, press 1
For a D2 fleet stuck in your garden, press 2
For a D2 starbase taking over your home system, press 3
If you want to speak to a D2 representative, please, hold the line.
Thank you.
hahaha.. classic
my std procedure would be like:
press1: "wtf! i cannot accept this - we want another account manager! thats what u call service!" - hold the line plz i¦ll redirect u - "damn"
lighten a cig - dial again, press2: "wtf! we are prime customers! i wanna speak the ceo!" - sry sir he is not available atm - i¦ll redirect you - "damn"
drink coffee - dial again, press3: "hi ... hmm.. yes.. ok.. yea.. ok .. u¦ll get a fax in a few" - "damn".
lotsa "whaahhhwhahhh" inbetween
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Jurushy
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Posted - 2006.06.27 15:54:00 -
[171]
i supose this is the first time that goons are forced to fight if they want to take prelle
for us is this a great fun
we live for PvP
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ispyon u
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Posted - 2006.06.27 17:03:00 -
[172]
It seems as though Steelvipers and friends have taken control of the station... when will the madness end....
Steelvipers active hours - They control the system,
they go to bed - Goon controls the system
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Dirtball
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Posted - 2006.06.27 17:24:00 -
[173]
Good job forcing peeps to fight you goons,
I have more and more respect for you guys all the time since yuo actually are willing to take losses and get in engagements unlike 95% of the rest of eve who would rather do the lockdown and dread uber lame and boring tactics.
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Evelina Yorg
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Posted - 2006.06.27 18:38:00 -
[174]
Originally by: Dirtball
Good job forcing peeps to fight you goons,
I have more and more respect for you guys all the time since yuo actually are willing to take losses and get in engagements unlike 95% of the rest of eve who would rather do the lockdown and dread uber lame and boring tactics.
It reads this way:
I'm bitter since my corp has become completely irrelevant in military and political landscape of EVE. Hence i complain about blobs, bigger ships and tactics. However i never mind ganking n00bs(blobbing, sort of) in empire and logging of as soon as number of hostiles exceeds number of wcs on my ***gybond.
Don't you find your empire ganks lame and uber boring too? Oh wait...
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Califax Oman
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Posted - 2006.06.27 19:14:00 -
[175]
Come on guys, lets not get it locked for flaming.
Any updates from Goon Command?
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Alzion
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Posted - 2006.06.27 19:35:00 -
[176]
D2, Don't claim that you abandon a staion to save face when you plan on retaking it.
Come on guys, this is propaganda warfare 101
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Jancen Sykes
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Posted - 2006.06.27 19:48:00 -
[177]
Well shoudlnt you could think about a reason why we are doing that? Just think exactly about it, maybe you will get the point.
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2006.06.27 19:52:00 -
[178]
Originally by: Alzion
D2, Don't claim that you abandon a staion to save face when you plan on retaking it.
Come on guys, this is propaganda warfare 101
Erm, it's pretty obvious though :/
I support d2's version of events because, well, as I say - it's pretty darn obvious what their motives were, for returning.
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Califax Oman
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Posted - 2006.06.27 20:19:00 -
[179]
*lights a cigarette and mutters something in french*
I thought D2 was busy building outpost and carebearing up north?
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Gordon Red
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Posted - 2006.06.27 20:28:00 -
[180]
Originally by: Califax Oman
I thought D2 was busy building outpost and carebearing up north?
Maybe not the bored pvp-arm.
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Esaam DeVries
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Posted - 2006.06.27 20:54:00 -
[181]
Originally by: Califax Oman
I thought D2 was busy building outpost and carebearing up north?
We were supposed to... But we got it all wrong. Again...
I think we're just retards.
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Nicocat
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Posted - 2006.06.27 21:29:00 -
[182]
Originally by: Esaam DeVries
Originally by: Califax Oman
I thought D2 was busy building outpost and carebearing up north?
We were supposed to... But we got it all wrong. Again...
I think we're just retards.
You win about 5 internets for that picture.
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Yes, I PvP in a Hookbill. How insane am I? EVE-Mail me and tell me! |
DrLogan
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Posted - 2006.06.27 21:41:00 -
[183]
A image speaks a 1000 words.
http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/613/d2wins7df.jpg
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Jurushy
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Posted - 2006.06.27 21:50:00 -
[184]
i dont know if i am a live or at a station
the lag is huge and the siege unplayable
i could not aktivate the schildbooster or if it starts i couldnt deactivate it
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Ghest
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Posted - 2006.06.27 21:58:00 -
[185]
Edited by: Ghest on 27/06/2006 21:58:35
Originally by: DrLogan
A image speaks a 1000 words.
http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/613/d2wins7df.jpg
quoting in case u come to regret this post later
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Bombcrater
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Posted - 2006.06.27 22:24:00 -
[186]
The lag is just mad. I spent 10 minutes trying in vain to even get my ship to turn round. Then I woke up in a pod and couldn't even open the killmail to see what happened.
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ispyon u
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Posted - 2006.06.27 22:26:00 -
[187]
I'm sitting there 300km away watching, its not too bad for me... but I'm just sitting there.
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Capt Rob
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Posted - 2006.06.27 22:37:00 -
[188]
Edited by: Capt Rob on 27/06/2006 22:41:26
Originally by: Ghest
Edited by: Ghest on 27/06/2006 21:58:35
Originally by: DrLogan
A image speaks a 1000 words.
http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/613/d2wins7df.jpg
quoting in case u come to regret this post later
that might be the case, as im hearing goonies just killed 2 dreads and the pos sorta hurt the d2 support from what i hear
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Ghest
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Posted - 2006.06.27 22:40:00 -
[189]
Edited by: Ghest on 27/06/2006 22:40:46
Originally by: Capt Rob
Originally by: Ghest
Edited by: Ghest on 27/06/2006 21:58:35
Originally by: DrLogan
A image speaks a 1000 words.
http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/613/d2wins7df.jpg
quoting in case u come to regret this post later
that might be the case, as im hearing goonies just killed 2 dreads and the pos sorta hurt the d2 support by the looks of the gf kb
yeh i reading goon kb and thats quite some win you get there d2 lol
'member kids bragging is bad
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Zen A
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Posted - 2006.06.27 22:41:00 -
[190]
Originally by: Capt Rob
Originally by: Ghest
Edited by: Ghest on 27/06/2006 21:58:35
Originally by: DrLogan
A image speaks a 1000 words.
http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/613/d2wins7df.jpg
quoting in case u come to regret this post later
that might be the case, as im hearing goonies just killed 2 dreads and the pos sorta hurt the d2 support by the looks of the gf kb
1 dread was killed, two others activated siege and capital reps on autorepeat and logged
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Knocturnal
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Posted - 2006.06.27 22:43:00 -
[191]
Originally by: Zen A
Originally by: Capt Rob
Originally by: Ghest
Edited by: Ghest on 27/06/2006 21:58:35
Originally by: DrLogan
A image speaks a 1000 words.
http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/613/d2wins7df.jpg
quoting in case u come to regret this post later
that might be the case, as im hearing goonies just killed 2 dreads and the pos sorta hurt the d2 support by the looks of the gf kb
1 dread was killed, two others activated siege and capital reps on autorepeat and logged
Post with the main .. and btw Alt posting 4tw ...
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Capt Rob
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Posted - 2006.06.27 22:44:00 -
[192]
Originally by: Zen A
Originally by: Capt Rob
Originally by: Ghest
Edited by: Ghest on 27/06/2006 21:58:35
Originally by: DrLogan
A image speaks a 1000 words.
http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/613/d2wins7df.jpg
quoting in case u come to regret this post later
that might be the case, as im hearing goonies just killed 2 dreads and the pos sorta hurt the d2 support by the looks of the gf kb
1 dread was killed, two others activated siege and capital reps on autorepeat and logged
oh alright, but logging out dreads at the pos
Deros is *** |
Fi T'Zeh
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Posted - 2006.06.27 22:45:00 -
[193]
A special owl for woody and the goons.
....
POST WITH YOUR MAIN !!!!11111one
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Jancen Sykes
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Posted - 2006.06.27 22:46:00 -
[194]
did you ever think about a freezed screen? no? hm well in that case pls enter a random flame now :p
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Deidranna
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Posted - 2006.06.27 22:47:00 -
[195]
Edited by: Deidranna on 27/06/2006 22:51:17
if you attack a pos with pilots defending it, it is part of the game that the attacker might loose some ships...
if you attack a pos while the defenders are sleeping...
well you guys knows better...
and pls stop your
Ten Speed > fofofofofofofofofofofofo
Khag > fofofofofofofofofofofofofof
Easy Kill > fofofofofofofofofofofof
etc
etc
in local -.-
makes you look even more
deidranna
Sig image was way too large -Abdalion
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Sensless Killing
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Posted - 2006.06.27 22:48:00 -
[196]
Originally by: Jancen Sykes
did you ever think about a freezed screen? no? hm well in that case pls enter a random flame now :p
well that be a very nice coincidence wouldt it? prob why most think of the other logging out to save yourself
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WildCard
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Posted - 2006.06.27 22:58:00 -
[197]
we confim one dread loss by lag. quite ez.
-WildCard CEO SteelVipers-
--- We break for nobody--
--- G4Ever-- |
deepzodiac
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Posted - 2006.06.27 22:58:00 -
[198]
Guys, stop smacking at eachother. We've reached page seven. What you all should be doing right now is blaming CCP. Only idiots smack people who can smack back, while CCP has to grab their ankles, bite the pillow and just wait for the reaming to end.
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deepzodiac
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Posted - 2006.06.27 23:02:00 -
[199]
Edited by: deepzodiac on 27/06/2006 23:03:11
Edited by: deepzodiac on 27/06/2006 23:02:19
Browsing the Goonfleet killboard right now...
WildCard, nice job blowing up Euphoria Released member Ceratin in his flycatcher with your Naglfar.
Edit: Oh, and Goonfleet, your stats are broken.
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Zen A
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Posted - 2006.06.27 23:04:00 -
[200]
Originally by: WildCard
we confim one dread loss by lag. quite ez.
Do you also confirm that you and Amano logged out to keep from being killed?
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2006.06.27 23:19:00 -
[201]
Originally by: Zen A
Originally by: WildCard
we confim one dread loss by lag. quite ez.
Do you also confirm that you and Amano logged out to keep from being killed?
Yes, there is absolutely no way ever on gods green earth that anyone crashes from eve. It wouldn't be the first time, nor the last, that the game froze to such a point that killing your client is the only way you could ever reset it - and if ur in seige and aggressed ur not going anywhere, are you?
No.
So, so what if they did? Who cares? Learn a bit more about this game before u try to get people to commit to doing anything that you have no idea of the cause or effect of.
Now, logging out in your battleship whilst scrambled by a frigate, THAT'S lame.
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Zen A
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Posted - 2006.06.27 23:35:00 -
[202]
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Zen A
Originally by: WildCard
we confim one dread loss by lag. quite ez.
Do you also confirm that you and Amano logged out to keep from being killed?
Yes, there is absolutely no way ever on gods green earth that anyone crashes from eve. It wouldn't be the first time, nor the last, that the game froze to such a point that killing your client is the only way you could ever reset it - and if ur in seige and aggressed ur not going anywhere, are you?
No.
So, so what if they did? Who cares? Learn a bit more about this game before u try to get people to commit to doing anything that you have no idea of the cause or effect of.
Now, logging out in your battleship whilst scrambled by a frigate, THAT'S lame.
Both of them at the same time with reps set on autorepeat? You only stay aggressed for 15 minutes. Siege and reps will keep you alive until you disappear.
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Cefte
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Posted - 2006.06.28 00:02:00 -
[203]
Good fights guys. Here's hoping that CCP rebalances the node so the lag can be reduced.
Also, alt posters, go away. If you want to say something, say it on your main.
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Svett
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Posted - 2006.06.28 00:23:00 -
[204]
fofofofofofofofo
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WildCard
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Posted - 2006.06.28 00:26:00 -
[205]
Edited by: WildCard on 28/06/2006 00:26:32
Well that was last what i saw b4 crashed Linkage
36au away from your tower and still under fire.
yes,yes i should train long range all
-WildCard CEO SteelVipers-
--- We break for nobody--
--- G4Ever-- |
AltSpy McSpy
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Posted - 2006.06.28 00:29:00 -
[206]
Wow, dread fights and all, nice show!
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Dirtball
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Posted - 2006.06.28 00:38:00 -
[207]
Sorry to reply to alt flamebait in this thread
I'd prefer if everyone in eve played like the goons cause then blobs might be fun to be a part of cause people wont be afraid of losing ships, looking bad on these precious boards, and waiting for like 3 hours to get a single 3 minute engagement killing 3 bs losing 1 then spounting off on the boards for 3 more hours.
Originally by: Evelina Yorg
It reads this way:
I'm bitter since my corp has become completely irrelevant in military and political landscape of EVE.
We have under 10 corps set to blue everyone else is Loot On Site, so politics are from our point of view are irrelevent. If being relevent in eve means joining an alliance where you are just pilot 84 of 130 I want to remain irrelevant forever.
I also wish being irrelevant meant people would not log off within seconds of me jumping into local as this has forced me to play my alts more as soloing is not possible when most of the alliances that drop good loot log instantly.
Originally by: Evelina Yorg
Hence i complain about blobs, bigger ships and tactics.
I complain to try to convince the better pvprs to leave their alliance of noobs and join small corps.
Dreads mean you can take stations in one day sit around for another 3 then leave and have 0.0 be completely empty. I want people to live in 0.0 not just take it over then show up when something is going on. Dreads pretty much allow people to take stuff over go play WOW then show up on weekends and get all the dread business done in a matter of hours.
Originally by: Evelina Yorg
However i never mind ganking n00bs(blobbing, sort of) in empire
I have about 10 kills in empire in the last year and about 1000 in 0.0.
Our blobing usually consists of lots of intys and a dmg dealer or two so we dont have to complain about stabs like the rest of eve flying dominixs and complaining about stabs when the only tackler is a 7500 thorax with an ab.
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ispyon u
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Posted - 2006.06.28 00:55:00 -
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YouWhat Alliance?
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CardboardSword42
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Posted - 2006.06.28 01:14:00 -
[209]
Originally by: ispyon u
YouWhat Alliance?
If I had to guess it was created so they can hold sovereignty
I'm Ex-Biomass, that makes me cool
But now I'm KOS and it's all about the manlove
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Rexthor Hammerfists
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Posted - 2006.06.28 01:33:00 -
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Edited by: Rexthor Hammerfists on 28/06/2006 01:34:10
would b a real shame if d2 wouldve logged their 2 dreads,
kinda hard to believe both guys logged at the same time isnt it`?
wouldve expected somethin else from d2..,
was always amazed by what goonfleet has achieved.
theyre joinin the ranks of the bigger it seems.
edit: its a hot topic, and if they didnt log ill b the first to apologize 3 times and throw salt over my shoulder.
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DrLogan
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Posted - 2006.06.28 01:56:00 -
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They are playing station ping pong it looks like...just a matter of time till STV gets an alliance setup, I believe.
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Ab Initio
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Posted - 2006.06.28 02:09:00 -
[212]
Originally by: Zen A
Both of them at the same time with reps set on autorepeat? You only stay aggressed for 15 minutes. Siege and reps will keep you alive until you disappear.
Just out of interest, what would they have to gain by logging there dreads, when they were in siege mode and won't go anywhere?
I don't know one way or the other, but logging a dread in siege mode that you yourself say was safe because it could tank it, accomplishes..... nothing?
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General Hansen
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Posted - 2006.06.28 02:11:00 -
[213]
I do hope the goonies win this one...
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AltSpy McSpy
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Posted - 2006.06.28 02:19:00 -
[214]
Wow, this just keeps heating up. Kind of surprised to see that the goons are pulling this off!
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Moofles
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Posted - 2006.06.28 02:27:00 -
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Edited by: Moofles on 28/06/2006 02:28:46
edit: oops, nevermind
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Amerame
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Posted - 2006.06.28 02:30:00 -
[216]
Originally by: Ab Initio
Originally by: Zen A
Both of them at the same time with reps set on autorepeat? You only stay aggressed for 15 minutes. Siege and reps will keep you alive until you disappear.
Just out of interest, what would they have to gain by logging there dreads, when they were in siege mode and won't go anywhere?
I don't know one way or the other, but logging a dread in siege mode that you yourself say was safe because it could tank it, accomplishes..... nothing?
Hum unless it has been changed, your armor repairers will keep one boosting the armor regardless of cap once you logged off, ie you can't be vampirized. Beside the dread will eventually disapear, else how do you plan to remove the dread from the battlefield if you are losing the fight ? tackled or not it's going to poof after 15mn once you logged off. 15mn is not that long.
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ispyon u
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Posted - 2006.06.28 02:52:00 -
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Goon has the station again, D2 is asleep..... They gave it a real classy name too.
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DrLogan
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Posted - 2006.06.28 02:59:00 -
[218]
Heh...
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Bombcrater
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Posted - 2006.06.28 03:05:00 -
[219]
Originally by: General Hansen
I do hope the goonies win this one...
The Lag Monster already won, but I don't see the Goons coming second 
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Spy McAlt
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Posted - 2006.06.28 03:11:00 -
[220]
Originally by: Ab Initio
Just out of interest, what would they have to gain by logging there dreads, when they were in siege mode and won't go anywhere?
I don't know one way or the other, but logging a dread in siege mode that you yourself say was safe because it could tank it, accomplishes..... nothing?
Maybe the fact that when the dread pilots logged back on they were in a different system might have something to do with it. Guess fleet lag is sufficient cause for a 'stuck' petition.
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Hllaxiu
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Posted - 2006.06.28 04:32:00 -
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Originally by: Spy McAlt
Originally by: Ab Initio
Just out of interest, what would they have to gain by logging there dreads, when they were in siege mode and won't go anywhere?
I don't know one way or the other, but logging a dread in siege mode that you yourself say was safe because it could tank it, accomplishes..... nothing?
Maybe the fact that when the dread pilots logged back on they were in a different system might have something to do with it. Guess fleet lag is sufficient cause for a 'stuck' petition.
If you can't log in, it most certainly is. I've been in 50 man fleets that were caught in node crashes or whatever and every single person in the gang had to be hand moved by GMs (there were at least 5 working on the situation too!). You rarely see people accuse others of logging in fleet battles - thats because in all likelyhood they crashed. Next time it could very well be your side that lags out.
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NebulousBlur
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Posted - 2006.06.28 04:47:00 -
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I can attest to the login trouble. I had trouble logging in tonight as well. Know what I did? I waited, and after a 5-10 minute delay the progress meter went through and I was in. |
Dinique
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Posted - 2006.06.28 06:42:00 -
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Originally by: NebulousBlur
I can attest to the login trouble. I had trouble logging in tonight as well. Know what I did? I waited, and after a 5-10 minute delay the progress meter went through and I was in.
Didnt work for me, I sat looking at the log-in progress screen for about 10 minutes after crashing at the POS. When I finally DID get back in more than 20 minutes later, I was many AU away in a pod. Which is strange since emergency warps are only a million km away.
It was laggy as hell. I never saw myself warping to the pos I just appeared there briefly before crashing, and my framerate never dropped below 20 the whole time.
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There's so many different worlds
So many different suns
And we have just one world
But we live in different ones
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Gyro DuAquin1
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Posted - 2006.06.28 08:07:00 -
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oh yeah goons are doing great...
so youwhat or d2 lost a dread, who cares ffs from what i know those guys are just assemble the next one in the hangar fit it like the old one, and back in action
gonns are taking heavy losses, not only the 1284 frigs but also bs and everything else.
So i see that d2/youwaht are probally in full control of the situation - no one is able to have a war with 0 zero losses, and attacking a pos with active enemies is risky. But from what i know, goons or smash never took that risk so far.
Anyway i predict that before the weekend ends, well see youwhat mining and npcing in xzh and goons are back in syndicate.
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KIATolon
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Posted - 2006.06.28 09:52:00 -
[225]
Which would be why they've not lost a dread, so far.
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Sad alt
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Posted - 2006.06.28 12:02:00 -
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Don't know how they did it but YouWhat got Sov over the systems even though they were only just formed as an alliance.
/emote clapping
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Leena Lee
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Posted - 2006.06.28 12:25:00 -
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Originally by: Sad alt
Don't know how they did it but YouWhat got Sov over the systems even though they were only just formed as an alliance.
/emote clapping
how long ago since it was created? 2-3 days? bug or sploit?
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arjun
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Posted - 2006.06.28 12:34:00 -
[228]
the pos weee in claimmode all the time just waiting for an alliance to take over the claim.
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Panzer Klien
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Posted - 2006.06.28 12:42:00 -
[229]
How can a Alliance under 5 days claim sov?
thats a bug surely?
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Fred0
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Posted - 2006.06.28 12:54:00 -
[230]
I look at this thread and all I can think is this: Are all the black avatars goon mains or alts pushing the goon agenda. 
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Stamm
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Posted - 2006.06.28 12:58:00 -
[231]
Originally by: Panzer Klien
How can a Alliance under 5 days claim sov?
thats a bug surely?
The POSs were claiming sovereignty before, during and after. Should a corporation lose it's stations because it switches alliances? I don't think so.
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Shayla Sh'inlux
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Posted - 2006.06.28 13:57:00 -
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Edited by: Shayla Sh''inlux on 28/06/2006 13:57:08
I thought D2/STV didn't care about the station since you already moved all your important stuff out anyway?
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igli
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Posted - 2006.06.28 14:02:00 -
[233]
Seems it became a matter of prestige Shayla. Just a matter of showing goons that OR is ok. CR is not ok.
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Fuuk mi
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Posted - 2006.06.28 14:15:00 -
[234]
D2 seem to be getting pretty worked up lmao. They had to call in allies XD
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Ceratin
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Posted - 2006.06.28 14:18:00 -
[235]
Edited by: Ceratin on 28/06/2006 14:18:38
Originally by: Shayla Sh'inlux
Edited by: Shayla Sh''inlux on 28/06/2006 13:57:08
I thought D2/STV didn't care about the station since you already moved all your important stuff out anyway?
We didnt until goonies came on here laying the smacketh down
Another fine example of why not to engage in forum stupidy :)
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Fred0
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Posted - 2006.06.28 14:26:00 -
[236]
Originally by: Fuuk mi
D2 seem to be getting pretty worked up lmao. They had to call in allies XD
If you are talking about us you are wrongly informed. We've had to beg them because they honestly didn't want to drag more people into it. But we're so bored they couldn't keep us out
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Raeff
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Posted - 2006.06.28 14:32:00 -
[237]
Originally by: Lunas Feelgood
Originally by: Chi Prime
Originally by: The Slayer
Wait. Wait wait wait wait wait. So a corp that wasnt D2 let the sov drop on the system. And someone came in and stole the station. Jeez this reminds me of something.... HAH EAT KARMA!
rofl
Yes becuase we all know that havent chosen surrendered ERA would have kept the stn right??
Again i have never seen so quite a war ever and I totally understand you ERA guys its always better blame some1 els then you own incompetence and you lack of fighting..
Anyway i wont comment in this thread again you pathetic excuse of fighters are not worth my time and like the great dP would have sayd: All I see is dead people..
i sabotaged the veldspar in h-w btw .. you shall not have it!!!111!111 muhahahaha
you really dont get it do you .. we dont give a f*ck about you guys anymore
wts arkanor and mercoxite .. we got to much
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Shimpu
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Posted - 2006.06.28 14:33:00 -
[238]
Edited by: Shimpu on 28/06/2006 14:35:20
Originally by: Fuuk mi
D2 seem to be getting pretty worked up lmao. They had to call in allies XD
That's what allies/friends are for, no? They support each other. Common goals and stuff like that
Most important: Is there also a fuuk you? Or is it just fuuk mi?
Originally by: Seleene
This is what happens when you eat the red M&M's
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Fred0
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Posted - 2006.06.28 14:38:00 -
[239]
Originally by: Raeff
Originally by: Lunas Feelgood
Originally by: Chi Prime
Originally by: The Slayer
Wait. Wait wait wait wait wait. So a corp that wasnt D2 let the sov drop on the system. And someone came in and stole the station. Jeez this reminds me of something.... HAH EAT KARMA!
rofl
Yes becuase we all know that havent chosen surrendered ERA would have kept the stn right??
Again i have never seen so quite a war ever and I totally understand you ERA guys its always better blame some1 els then you own incompetence and you lack of fighting..
Anyway i wont comment in this thread again you pathetic excuse of fighters are not worth my time and like the great dP would have sayd: All I see is dead people..
i sabotaged the veldspar in h-w btw .. you shall not have it!!!111!111 muhahahaha
you really dont get it do you .. we dont give a f*ck about you guys anymore
wts arkanor and mercoxite .. we got to much
So first MLM start smacking them about H-W, and then when *****slapped back you just don't care.
I guess there's just no winning against the mentally challenged ones....
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KIATolon
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Posted - 2006.06.28 14:46:00 -
[240]
Is it actually possible for you to go a whole thread without feeling the need to insult someone?
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David Hope
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Posted - 2006.06.28 15:00:00 -
[241]
Originally by: Panzer Klien
How can a Alliance under 5 days claim sov?
thats a bug surely?
To claim sovereignty a pos must be *online* for 5 days. It doesn't need to be claiming sov for five days.
So, if you have 5 poses in a system for a month, then join an alliance, the next day a sovereignty claim will go up.
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2006.06.28 15:00:00 -
[242]
Originally by: arjun
the pos weee in claimmode all the time just waiting for an alliance to take over the claim.
muahahaha
Nice, I thought it would work like that but as it has never been done before I wasn't sure.
GG arjun :p
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Fuuk mi
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Posted - 2006.06.28 15:05:00 -
[243]
Originally by: Shimpu
Is there also a fuuk you? Or is it just fuuk mi?
Just fuuk mi, my twin sister hasnt been born.
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fuuk you
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Posted - 2006.06.28 15:15:00 -
[244]
Originally by: Fuuk mi
Originally by: Shimpu
Is there also a fuuk you? Or is it just fuuk mi?
Just fuuk mi, my twin sister hasnt been born.
Altastic
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heruloka
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Posted - 2006.06.28 15:23:00 -
[245]
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Zen A
Originally by: WildCard
we confim one dread loss by lag. quite ez.
Do you also confirm that you and Amano logged out to keep from being killed?
Yes, there is absolutely no way ever on gods green earth that anyone crashes from eve. It wouldn't be the first time, nor the last, that the game froze to such a point that killing your client is the only way you could ever reset it - and if ur in seige and aggressed ur not going anywhere, are you?
No.
So, so what if they did? Who cares? Learn a bit more about this game before u try to get people to commit to doing anything that you have no idea of the cause or effect of.
Now, logging out in your battleship whilst scrambled by a frigate, THAT'S lame.
damn i actually agree with someone from bob.
i ave had to do the same thing while ratting before. my client locked up so bad i had to ctrl-alt-del to kill it wen i could not turn on shield boost and wheh i logged back on my raven was down to 12% structure.
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AltSpy McSpy
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Posted - 2006.06.28 15:25:00 -
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Edited by: AltSpy McSpy on 28/06/2006 15:26:28
Oh god, alts everywhere. :( I think it's really sad to see 'fuuk yu' and 'fuuk mi', I hope these guys get banned.
Seriously though, I can't wait to read about what happens today, this is like sport but more fun.
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Fuuk mi
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Posted - 2006.06.28 15:26:00 -
[247]
Originally by: fuuk you
Originally by: Fuuk mi
Originally by: Shimpu
Is there also a fuuk you? Or is it just fuuk mi?
Just fuuk mi, my twin sister hasnt been born.
Altastic
my bad there she is
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Marcsens Lil'Helper
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Posted - 2006.06.28 15:29:00 -
[248]
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: arjun
the pos weee in claimmode all the time just waiting for an alliance to take over the claim.
muahahaha
Nice, I thought it would work like that but as it has never been done before I wasn't sure.
GG arjun :p
Does anyone else think this opens a lot of possibilites for spy-corps living as citizens in alliance territory?
I'm a bit worried.
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2006.06.28 15:32:00 -
[249]
Originally by: Marcsens Lil'Helper
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: arjun
the pos weee in claimmode all the time just waiting for an alliance to take over the claim.
muahahaha
Nice, I thought it would work like that but as it has never been done before I wasn't sure.
GG arjun :p
Does anyone else think this opens a lot of possibilites for spy-corps living as citizens in alliance territory?
I'm a bit worried.
There's a reason no smart alliance will allow non-friendly pos in station systems.
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fuuk you
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Posted - 2006.06.28 15:34:00 -
[250]
Edited by: fuuk you on 28/06/2006 15:33:57
Originally by: AltSpy McSpy
:( I think it's really sad to see 'fuuk yu' and 'fuuk mi', I hope these guys get banned.
Fuuk mi & fuuk you [PR13 rated]
WTS humour!
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Marcsens Lil'Helper
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Posted - 2006.06.28 15:37:00 -
[251]
Originally by: Dianabolic
There's a reason no smart alliance will allow non-friendly pos in station systems.
I was referring to those mega alliances who take every small corp they can find.
It would be easy for such a corp to simply offer to hold up the claim for a station system and join a hostile alliance over night.
This hostile alliance then automatically has a 5 day advantage over the other.
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Ur Dirac
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Posted - 2006.06.28 15:48:00 -
[252]
Originally by: fuuk you
Edited by: fuuk you on 28/06/2006 15:33:57
Originally by: AltSpy McSpy
:( I think it's really sad to see 'fuuk yu' and 'fuuk mi', I hope these guys get banned.
Fuuk mi & fuuk you [PR13 rated]
WTS humour!
You guys are doing a great job turning a thread that started out pro-goon into an anti-goon altfest. I'm sure you're proud.
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Nicocat
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Posted - 2006.06.28 16:21:00 -
[253]
A bit belated, but I forgot to mention. Nerf timezones. *wants to see this end, and it won't with one side taking over when the other sleeps...*
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Yes, I PvP in a Hookbill. How insane am I? EVE-Mail me and tell me! |
Fuuk mi
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Posted - 2006.06.28 16:43:00 -
[254]
Fuuk Mi is a character from austin powers, which you evidently have not seen, so go buy a sense of humour from ebay.
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DrLogan
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Posted - 2006.06.28 16:56:00 -
[255]
Edited by: DrLogan on 28/06/2006 16:56:09
Please stop spamming my thread.
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Nuur Gul
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Posted - 2006.06.28 20:49:00 -
[256]
Edited by: Nuur Gul on 28/06/2006 20:50:46
Edited by: Nuur Gul on 28/06/2006 20:50:24
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Bavarian Punk
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Posted - 2006.06.28 20:52:00 -
[257]
The bees saw a small opportunity when XZH had no souvereignity. They decided and acted quickly and took the chance. This was a smart, admirable and brave move.
Now YouWhat took back souvereignity and the small window of opportunity has closed. No reason to whine about it. Goodbye bees.
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roikorev
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Posted - 2006.06.28 20:59:00 -
[258]
Originally by: Bavarian Punk
The bees saw a small opportunity when XZH had no souvereignity. They decided and acted quickly and took the chance. This was a smart, admirable and brave move.
Now YouWhat took back souvereignity and the small window of opportunity has closed. No reason to whine about it. Goodbye bees.
And goodbye to your dreads.
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Jin'Roh
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Posted - 2006.06.28 21:04:00 -
[259]
Originally by: roikorev
Originally by: Bavarian Punk
The bees saw a small opportunity when XZH had no souvereignity. They decided and acted quickly and took the chance. This was a smart, admirable and brave move.
Now YouWhat took back souvereignity and the small window of opportunity has closed. No reason to whine about it. Goodbye bees.
And goodbye to your dreads.
gj on killing the node with your endless cans 'n stuff...
dont try to claim something...
jin
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2006.06.28 21:09:00 -
[260]
Originally by: roikorev
Originally by: Bavarian Punk
The bees saw a small opportunity when XZH had no souvereignity. They decided and acted quickly and took the chance. This was a smart, admirable and brave move.
Now YouWhat took back souvereignity and the small window of opportunity has closed. No reason to whine about it. Goodbye bees.
And goodbye to your dreads.
If you really have run that 10.10 you know that it's only gonna take about 3 days of "mild" complex'ing to earn another one. So yeah, swap what, 3(?) dreads for that isk potential?
I know who got the better end of THAT deal.
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NOObbody
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Posted - 2006.06.28 21:17:00 -
[261]
Originally by: roikorev
And goodbye to your dreads.
Affordable. Where are your Dreads, btw?
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katz3
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Posted - 2006.06.28 21:23:00 -
[262]
Ouch, thats laggy (like 30 sec) and im not even next to the POS.
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Bluestealth
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Posted - 2006.06.28 21:29:00 -
[263]
I can't wait till goons swarm someone with a Titan built for defense.... BOOM... *main fleet moves in to take out capitals.
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Nicocat
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Posted - 2006.06.28 21:31:00 -
[264]
Doomsday Weapons. The ultimate in smart bomb technology.
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-Alexi
Yes, I PvP in a Hookbill. How insane am I? EVE-Mail me and tell me! |
kia anna
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Posted - 2006.06.28 21:47:00 -
[265]
Edited by: kia anna on 28/06/2006 21:51:51
If you really have run that 10.10 you know that it's only gonna take about 3 days of "mild" complex'ing to earn another one. So yeah, swap what, 3(?) dreads for that isk potential?
I know who got the better end of THAT deal.
Yes but remember whose the system was in the first place and the circumstances of Goons arrival, D2 havent lost a few dreds to gain a 10/10 plex, they have lost a few dreads and a few days running the plex to gain a system they had in the first place,
That and i guess it was fun for all involved
I supose goon have lost a bunch of ships and time they could have spent elsewhere, they are still fighing norad right? How is that going?
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Bluestealth
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Posted - 2006.06.28 21:53:00 -
[266]
Originally by: kia anna
If you really have run that 10.10 you know that it's only gonna take about 3 days of "mild" complex'ing to earn another one. So yeah, swap what, 3(?) dreads for that isk potential?
I know who got the better end of THAT deal.
Yes but remember whose the system was in the first place and the circumstances of Goons arrival, D2 havent lost a few dreds to gain a 10/10 plex, they have lost a few dreads and a few days running the plex to gain a system they had in the first place,
That and i guess it was fun for all involved
Dreads are small change to these alliances, even to some playsers, and doubt you understand how much they are going to make from that plex in one day.
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Jurushy
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Posted - 2006.06.28 21:54:00 -
[267]
it would be fun WHITOUT THE LAG!
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kia anna
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Posted - 2006.06.28 22:10:00 -
[268]
Edited by: kia anna on 28/06/2006 22:15:17
Originally by: Bluestealth
Dreads are small change to these alliances, even to some playsers, and doubt you understand how much they are going to make from that plex in one day.
myy point was that however much that they would make from that plex in one day is lost earnings for the days that this lil shin dig has been going down.
then again I guess the same could be said for whatever moneymaking goon would be doing otherwise, but i guess they has a lot to gain from trying this given the opportunity presented to them.
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Y Ashanti
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Posted - 2006.06.28 22:16:00 -
[269]
In alliance warfare nowadays, isk losses are rarely much of a factor (unless they start becoming too excessive and hard to support), all larger 0.0 alliance have more isk than they could ever dream to use anyway.
What matters is, who is left after the dust settles.
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Acwron
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Posted - 2006.06.28 22:21:00 -
[270]
Originally by: jkhmx
I like how 15 dreads couldn't bring a pos into reinforced before 4 of them were popped.
because the node didn't get properly reinforced with dynmaic loadbalancing or perhaps because EVE still is laggy as ever (not being able to start modules and the like)?
no can't be. We just need to get better Internet (100mbit is not enough) and faster PCs...
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Bluestealth
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Posted - 2006.06.28 22:22:00 -
[271]
Originally by: jkhmx
I like how 15 dreads couldn't bring a pos into reinforced before 4 of them were popped.
As it should be , Dreads are powerful but not that powerful. At the end of the day the losers are the ones who have to give up and go home, not the ones who lost the most. It isnt satisfying to loose either, be prepared to loose members on failed campaigns.
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Ur Dirac
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Posted - 2006.06.28 22:22:00 -
[272]
Dear god, why must all these alliance battles be fought with alts on forums? What, do you have some no-posting policy in your alliances such that you have to resort to alts?
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DrLogan
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Posted - 2006.06.28 22:23:00 -
[273]
Originally by: Y Ashanti
What matters is, who is left after the dust settles.
Lots and lots of cans...
btw, 10 pages and no lock!
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Bluestealth
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Posted - 2006.06.28 22:23:00 -
[274]
Originally by: Ur Dirac
Dear god, why must all these alliance battles be fought with alts on forums? What, do you have some no-posting policy in your alliances such that you have to resort to alts?
Says the alt.
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Gordon Red
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Posted - 2006.06.28 23:35:00 -
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To have and keep a big wallet is not for everyone the big goal.
It is to have fun. For us action is = fun.
But lag isn't fun at all and we are really paying for that???
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Posted - 2006.06.28 23:45:00 -
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I was told this is where the alts hang out [8)
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Shayla Sh'inlux
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Posted - 2006.06.29 08:21:00 -
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Quote:
So first MLM start smacking them about H-W, and then when *****slapped back you just don't care.
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Please don't confuse the posts of individual pilots with the stance of MLM in the matter. We all know what happened for real in Tribute and H-W, but that's not what this thread is about, so I suggest you take your propaganda elsewhere.
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Androclese
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Posted - 2006.06.29 11:02:00 -
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Goons and SMASH are winning!
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KIATolon
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Posted - 2006.06.29 11:10:00 -
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We'll see.
D2, by their own admission, will only be losing when they stop bringing the dreads, carriers and BS to the fight... after all, ISK is nothing.
Right?
We'll see how many dreads they bring tonight.
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Eonov
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Posted - 2006.06.29 11:26:00 -
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Originally by: Androclese
Goons and SMASH are winning!
If goon and smash are honest with themselves they like every1 else involved will know that due to the lack of ability to have any kind of a proper fight wether it be the dreads against the POs,s or the fleets against fleets due to the lag they will know that atm noone can claim any form of victory, until ccp get off thier asses and accept that large scale engagements are much more common and they need to build a means where the game doesnt become unworkable as soon as said forces collide, last night was bollox for both sides really which is a shame as it coulda been good fun.
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Andraxx
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Posted - 2006.06.29 11:27:00 -
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Realy acrimoniously, that gnoons have the avantage of timezone and a terrible lag what i nver saw in this dimension bevore.
Would be nice if we could say gf, and gnoons have won by skill.
Plz ccp, boost XZH-nodes or whatever you can do, that eve goes playabel for us. Look here this is what our dread pilots see 30 Mins after warping out from enemy Pos:
16au away and still under fire, unabel to do anyting
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Androclese
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Posted - 2006.06.29 11:34:00 -
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Regardless of lag it will happen! The Goons and Smash have those same problems as well.
The problem that is bothering D2 the most is the lack of leadership and the fact there is a major division between the industrialists and the pvp'ers. Until that's resolved lag or no lag wont make the slightest difference!
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Deidranna
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Posted - 2006.06.29 11:38:00 -
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Edited by: Deidranna on 29/06/2006 11:38:20
i had planned to spent my holidays at a cool beach.
but atm, i thinking about going to london and plug my 'puter right into tqs back.
because... there is no lag.
deidranna
Sig image was way too large -Abdalion
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Kashif Habad
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Posted - 2006.06.29 11:41:00 -
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What will happen?
You do not suffer from lag sitting inside a pos and waiting for it to shoot the dreads that are not even able to activate any kind of module.
Also the fact, that at the exact time the dreads warped in, every defending ship launched as much drones and jettisoned as much cargo containers they had, could indicate that a defenders position clearly has an advantage when there is lag ;)
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Roma Augustus
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Posted - 2006.06.29 11:42:00 -
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Wow! 10+ billion in dreads dead and I still recall D2 claiming only noobs like ASCN could manage that. Perhaps its time to recruit some decent fleet commanders?
Go get em GOONS!
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Jurushy
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Posted - 2006.06.29 12:09:00 -
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this is defenitly not funny
it is a shame that the lag kill an such fleet
WE NEED SUPORT CCP!
MAKE SOMETHING WE PAY U FOR A PLAYABLE GAME NOT FOR DEAD DREAD BECOUS LAG
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Kor Rinu
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Posted - 2006.06.29 12:29:00 -
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As a sidenote: A certain Goon pos is bugged and does not take damage below 40%...
From what I have heard it is already petitioned, so hopefully this pos will leave god mode in a few days...
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Nidrian
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Posted - 2006.06.29 12:31:00 -
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ItÆs a shame...
CCP please boost the Server...
You can expect some more days of fighting in ONE System!
Don't kill the FUN we all could have even we don't sleep with GM's 
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NOObbody
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Posted - 2006.06.29 12:40:00 -
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Originally by: Roma Augustus
Wow! 10+ billion in dreads dead and I still recall D2 claiming only noobs like ASCN could manage that. Perhaps its time to recruit some decent fleet commanders?
Go get em GOONS!
Cuz Fc¦s have lagcontrol right?
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Remedial
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Posted - 2006.06.29 12:57:00 -
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The directors of GoonFleet hate it when I post, but somebody needs to slap you pansies back where you belong, so I'll do it.
GoonFleet didn't cause the lag in that battle. In fact, D2 outnumbered GoonFleet for the vast majority of the major dread engagement yesterday, at about 100 support ships + 18 dreads + whoever was AFK at station compared to 75 in the GoonFleet gang at the beginning and 5 or so AFK at our POS. In fact, we petitioned the GMs last night to ask them to reallocate resources to the server, and one of them said that the lag should be better today.
You didn't lose your dreads to lag, you lost your dreads because you vastly underestimated us once again.
Two days ago you lost a dread and nearly 80 frigates, cruisers, BS and HACs because you decided to take on a deathstar POS with 4 dreads and a support fleet. The only reason you didn't lose ALL your dreads was because two of them logged off and then petitioned the GMs as "stuck" so they were moved to a different system instead of relogging into their certain deaths.
Yesterday you warped 18 dreads within 60km of a deathstar POS, laid down no warp bubbles, and had 100 support ships sitting 300km away while there was an enemy fleet with 40+ BS and 30 support ships in system. It doesn't take lag to lose four dreads under those conditions, nor did lag cause you to lose 7 T2 fitted BS to an interdictor bubble an hour after the dread battle.
What caused your losses was sloppy fleet commanding, overconfidence and poor preparation, so you can go ahead and stop blaming us for "exploiting" or dropping cans or whatever to cause lag. That didn't happen yesterday or the day before, and we don't need lag to bloody your nose every time you swagger on in and just expect us to run away from a superior force.
I look forward to today's battle in XZH.
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Califax Oman
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Posted - 2006.06.29 13:14:00 -
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OH BUUUURN!
Hahahahahahahaha Go Goons Go!
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grizouh
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Posted - 2006.06.29 13:21:00 -
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Edited by: grizouh on 29/06/2006 13:22:03
Originally by: Androclese
Regardless of lag it will happen! The Goons and Smash have those same problems as well.
no, they don¦t cose they prefer to bring ih their dreads when 90% of us are at sleep.
no blame, just fact.
remedial, look at the two screens linked in this thread, the dreads could not be controlled in any way due to lag.
one shot is from wild, the other one from amano, the two you blame for logging. they could not do _anything_ at all, believe it or not.
(same goes for juru, the first dread downed, who could not control the booster e.g.)
other buggy thing yesterday night:
youwhat had sov in 9-4 and we decided to take back the station but we could not shoot it.
petitioned it and the guy did not get an answer four hours later, than he logged off.
ccp, this isn¦t really funny anymore...
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Larifari
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Posted - 2006.06.29 13:27:00 -
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Originally by: Remedial
The directors of GoonFleet hate it when I post, but somebody needs to slap you pansies back where you belong, so I'll do it.
GoonFleet didn't cause the lag in that battle. In fact, D2 outnumbered GoonFleet for the vast majority of the major dread engagement yesterday, at about 100 support ships + 18 dreads + whoever was AFK at station compared to 75 in the GoonFleet gang at the beginning and 5 or so AFK at our POS. In fact, we petitioned the GMs last night to ask them to reallocate resources to the server, and one of them said that the lag should be better today.
You didn't lose your dreads to lag, you lost your dreads because you vastly underestimated us once again.
Two days ago you lost a dread and nearly 80 frigates, cruisers, BS and HACs because you decided to take on a deathstar POS with 4 dreads and a support fleet. The only reason you didn't lose ALL your dreads was because two of them logged off and then petitioned the GMs as "stuck" so they were moved to a different system instead of relogging into their certain deaths.
Yesterday you warped 18 dreads within 60km of a deathstar POS, laid down no warp bubbles, and had 100 support ships sitting 300km away while there was an enemy fleet with 40+ BS and 30 support ships in system. It doesn't take lag to lose four dreads under those conditions, nor did lag cause you to lose 7 T2 fitted BS to an interdictor bubble an hour after the dread battle.
What caused your losses was sloppy fleet commanding, overconfidence and poor preparation, so you can go ahead and stop blaming us for "exploiting" or dropping cans or whatever to cause lag. That didn't happen yesterday or the day before, and we don't need lag to bloody your nose every time you swagger on in and just expect us to run away from a superior force.
I look forward to today's battle in XZH.
If you would take a look at the posted pictures, dont you think its funny to tell these people that they did not suffered any lag?
Lag in fleetengagements is bad, but at least both parties suffer from it - lag with npc controlled guns in the mix is simply a waste of time.
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Foxdonut
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Posted - 2006.06.29 13:32:00 -
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See it is a fact, everytime when dreads where brought in ultra heavy lag started - made it impossible for pilots to decide if they are stuck or if it's lag. When dreads went off lag was gone and we had a good, high performance game experience for the numbers.
I don't blame anyone to be in responsibility for this exept CCP !
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Jurushy
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Posted - 2006.06.29 13:38:00 -
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Originally by: Remedial
The directors of GoonFleet hate it when I post, but somebody needs to slap you pansies back where you belong, so I'll do it.
GoonFleet didn't cause the lag in that battle. In fact, D2 outnumbered GoonFleet for the vast majority of the major dread engagement yesterday, at about 100 support ships + 18 dreads + whoever was AFK at station compared to 75 in the GoonFleet gang at the beginning and 5 or so AFK at our POS. In fact, we petitioned the GMs last night to ask them to reallocate resources to the server, and one of them said that the lag should be better today.
You didn't lose your dreads to lag, you lost your dreads because you vastly underestimated us once again.
Two days ago you lost a dread and nearly 80 frigates, cruisers, BS and HACs because you decided to take on a deathstar POS with 4 dreads and a support fleet. The only reason you didn't lose ALL your dreads was because two of them logged off and then petitioned the GMs as "stuck" so they were moved to a different system instead of relogging into their certain deaths.
Yesterday you warped 18 dreads within 60km of a deathstar POS, laid down no warp bubbles, and had 100 support ships sitting 300km away while there was an enemy fleet with 40+ BS and 30 support ships in system. It doesn't take lag to lose four dreads under those conditions, nor did lag cause you to lose 7 T2 fitted BS to an interdictor bubble an hour after the dread battle.
What caused your losses was sloppy fleet commanding, overconfidence and poor preparation, so you can go ahead and stop blaming us for "exploiting" or dropping cans or whatever to cause lag. That didn't happen yesterday or the day before, and we don't need lag to bloody your nose every time you swagger on in and just expect us to run away from a superior force.
I look forward to today's battle in XZH.
so goons who lunch cargos and drones when our dreads attak are not the couse for lag?
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Cringeley
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Posted - 2006.06.29 13:44:00 -
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The ball is round, the game lasts 90 minutes. That's a fact. Everything else is just theory.
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Hoegaarden
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Posted - 2006.06.29 13:49:00 -
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We would prefer to not post here at all, but we feel that in the absence of official word there is a tendency for people to post speculation and unproductive smack-talk. With that said, here is the situation as we see it: Goonswarm and allies, in particular SMASH, continue to fight against the combined forces of D2 and the new YouWhat alliance. Control of the system is not monopolized by either of us at present, and is largely dictated by the time zones of peak participation. Neither side is getting 'owned', or 'curbstomped', whatever posts are made here to the contrary. We would like to think that we have had significant victories, but we have had substantial losses as well.
Goonswarm and allies, including SMASH, have been fighting against a force comprised of both D2 and YouWhat pilots, but the D2 forces had been limited to support ships up to t2 battleships prior to yesterday. The only capital ships participating were STV, and they had only about 5 dreadnaughts. In an engagement at one of our POSs, we were able to destroy one STV dreadnaught, along with a host of other D2/YouWhat ships. Casualties on our side were very heavy, and the battle was very laggy as well.
Yesterday, D2 jumped a capital ship fleet of dreadnaughts in to support YouWhat, bringing their total number of dreadnaughts up to 18 in system. They then proceeded to lay siege to one of our large POSs. In the aftermath of the battle casualties were high on both sides. Goonswarm forces lost a number of ships of various classes. D2 casualties were 4 dreadnaughts: two phoenixes, a revelation, and a moros, and some other support ships. The POS was not put into reinforced. There was lag, but it wasn't nearly as bad as yesterday, and it ended up being a good engagement.
At present, neither alliance has sovereignty over the XZH system. We hope to establish it in the coming days, but that ultimately depends on the results of the engagements we will soon have. We don’t expect to win easily, but we do hope to win in the end. This is our first serious foray into the world of conquerable space, and much of what we do is happening for the first time, but thus far I think we’ve made a good accounting of ourselves. More importantly, we’re having a great time, and Goonswarm morale is high.
Finally, I hate the fact that we keep needing to say this, but alt posters, please cease posting here if you're a member of Goonswarm. Goonswarm does not sanction the use of alt posters, and posters claiming to represent us here do not represent our positions or opinions.
Goonfleet CEO
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CardboardSword42
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Posted - 2006.06.29 13:58:00 -
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Lag effects everybody.
This thread is beginning to remind me of the thread made after Collective, RAT, Outbreak,and SE stomped ASCN.
I'm Ex-Biomass, that makes me cool
But now I'm KOS and it's all about the manlove
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Tanya Kovacs
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Posted - 2006.06.29 14:03:00 -
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Yesterday evening:
1) virtually no lag in XZH, 200+ in local
2) Dreads jumps into system, still no mentionable lag
3) Dreads warp off to Goonie-pos - horrible (and I mean horrible!) lag (close to nodecrash I bet)
Same like the day before.
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All my postings reflects just my personal opinion and my lacking knowledge of proper english.
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Larifari
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Posted - 2006.06.29 14:05:00 -
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Originally by: CardboardSword42
Lag effects everybody.
not the guns of a pos |
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KIATolon
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Posted - 2006.06.29 14:14:00 -
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When I see a loss mail with only POS guns on, you'll have my sympathy
Oh, and your gang was already on grid when GS attacked
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DeadDuck
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Posted - 2006.06.29 14:27:00 -
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Originally by: KIATolon
When I see a loss mail with only POS guns on, you'll have my sympathy
well check the alliances kill boards then ... theres a lot of them
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Andraxx
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Posted - 2006.06.29 14:29:00 -
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What i readly cant understand are that kindergarden postiongs here.
Why you can't just say "Ok, we know that there is modul lag from 5 Min till frezze. We also can change that, and yes we have the avantage to sit at our pos."
Quite ez
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CardboardSword42
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Posted - 2006.06.29 14:38:00 -
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Edited by: CardboardSword42 on 29/06/2006 14:41:10
Originally by: Dawn Princess
Originally by: CardboardSword42
Lag effects everybody.
This thread is beginning to remind me of the thread made after Collective, RAT, Outbreak,and SE stomped ASCN.
It reminds you of that other thread as it is the same issue.
Lag does not affect POS guns, that is what the problem is.
Lag does not affect those already in the grid with it loaded a fraction as much as those warping into it.
The fleet at the pos still has to load all the ships warping into them.
Also the goons have been attacking D2/Steel Viper POSes. So they experience the lag of warping into a pos as well
Lag is an issue. It is an issue both sides have to face in this conflict. It should not be used as a scapegoat for tactical errors
I'm Ex-Biomass, that makes me cool
But now I'm KOS and it's all about the manlove
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Nidrian
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Posted - 2006.06.29 14:38:00 -
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It's a game who is meant to play Isn't it?
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KIATolon
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Posted - 2006.06.29 14:44:00 -
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Originally by: DeadDuck
Originally by: KIATolon
When I see a loss mail with only POS guns on, you'll have my sympathy
well check the alliances kill boards then ... theres a lot of them
And none of those ships were called target.
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DeadDuck
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Posted - 2006.06.29 14:52:00 -
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Originally by: KIATolon
Originally by: DeadDuck
Originally by: KIATolon
When I see a loss mail with only POS guns on, you'll have my sympathy
well check the alliances kill boards then ... theres a lot of them
And none of those ships were called target.
Does that means that I dont have your sympathy ?
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Jurushy
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Posted - 2006.06.29 14:53:00 -
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Originally by: CardboardSword42
Edited by: CardboardSword42 on 29/06/2006 14:41:10
Originally by: Dawn Princess
Originally by: CardboardSword42
Lag effects everybody.
This thread is beginning to remind me of the thread made after Collective, RAT, Outbreak,and SE stomped ASCN.
It reminds you of that other thread as it is the same issue.
Lag does not affect POS guns, that is what the problem is.
Lag does not affect those already in the grid with it loaded a fraction as much as those warping into it.
The fleet at the pos still has to load all the ships warping into them.
Also the goons have been attacking D2/Steel Viper POSes. So they experience the lag of warping into a pos as well
Lag is an issue. It is an issue both sides have to face in this conflict. It should not be used as a scapegoat for tactical errors
thay never attak one of our poses if ther were defender in space
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AltSpy McSpy
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Posted - 2006.06.29 14:53:00 -
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Wow, who would have thought that goons could ever stand up to the might of D2? I'm impressed.
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KIATolon
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Posted - 2006.06.29 14:57:00 -
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Originally by: DeadDuck
Originally by: KIATolon
Originally by: DeadDuck
Originally by: KIATolon
When I see a loss mail with only POS guns on, you'll have my sympathy
well check the alliances kill boards then ... theres a lot of them
And none of those ships were called target.
Does that means that I dont have your sympathy ?
Tell you what; you give me a cuddle, and I'll give you a cuddle.
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grizouh
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Posted - 2006.06.29 15:00:00 -
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Originally by: CardboardSword42
The fleet at the pos still has to load all the ships warping into them.
Also the goons have been attacking D2/Steel Viper POSes. So they experience the lag of warping into a pos as well
once again: the goon/shmash dreads only appear when the most of us are already asleep.
we had been attacking while there had been around 100 on goonies side because we do not mind the fight and would really enjoy it if it would be playable...
and it makes a difference if you jump onto a fleet or wait for the incoming, g/d2 is used to lag ^^
try another look at the amano pic. how many do you see targeting?
is it because goonies do have lag, too or because uzi does not get the info from the client due to lag?
just in case you missed the link:
http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/9319/dread10uw.jpg
or wilds pic:
http://www.bzone.org/BILD/Ouch.png
translation of the chat:
wildcards dread at the safespot
well at least i think so...
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dirty mick
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Posted - 2006.06.29 15:02:00 -
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Nubs. have offered to help. But you have to send me an eve mail in game detailing the support you would like. Seeing G lose ships makes me belly laugh.
They dont know how to fight where they are not always at warp velocity. So the lag forcing them to stay and fight *****s me up.
Keep up the good work goons!
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Happydayz
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Posted - 2006.06.29 15:03:00 -
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Uhh, to all the Steel Vipers complaining about Goonswarm not attacking when hostiles are present: that's how timezones work. Goonswarm is a predominately US based alliance whereas D2/YouWhat are primarily European based. D2/YouWhat are going to commit dreads to battle during their primetime, and Goonswarm will commit dreads during their primetime.
One key element of who will win this war is whomever's off-time players can best hold the line against the enemies primetime fleet. From STV's complaining it looks like they aren't very effective at all during US primetime, whereas Goonswarm is doing rather well for itself fending off D2/STV attacks during European primetime.
But this is just one determinent of victory. It remains to be seen which sides logistics, morale, and determination will best the other.
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Andraxx
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Posted - 2006.06.29 15:12:00 -
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Edited by: Andraxx on 29/06/2006 15:11:59
@Happydayz: That's not 100% correct. They are also up in our timezone. Of corse at savespot. But they are there.
@dirty mick: Aren'tt you that professional heavy miner wich was allowed by stv to mine in xzh for more than a year? Nice to read your friendly comments.
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13th
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Posted - 2006.06.29 15:14:00 -
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Originally by: grizouh
once again: the goon/shmash dreads only appear when the most of us are already asleep.
we had been attacking while there had been around 100 on goonies side because we do not mind the fight and would really enjoy it if it would be playable...
I would appreciate it if you would stop using that as an excuse. We live and operate in different timezones. That is a fact. Unless we all take a sick day from work to appease your alliance or all of your pilots stay up far past a reasonable bedtime, we simply will not face each other's forces with equal footing on the weekdays.I expect that the weekends will finally see the two fleets operating near peek numbers for both sides.
So please stop using it as an excuse because it has worn thin. The combat forces are not avoiding you.
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grizouh
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Posted - 2006.06.29 15:26:00 -
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Originally by: grizouh
no, they don¦t cose they prefer to bring ih their dreads when 90% of us are asleep.
no blame, just fact.
and i would really appreciate if you read what i write.
it is not meant as an excuse.
of course it is a matter of timezones.
but on the other side there are enough goonies when we are attacking and i think we could speak about equal numbers without probs in our evening times.
i do not blame goonies at all, the only one i blame atm is ccp!
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Cringeley
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Posted - 2006.06.29 15:31:00 -
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If I were CCP I would be getting sick of you blaming them for your lack of timezone coverage. Just get stuck in, enjoy the battles. See my previous post for clarification. |
grizouh
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Posted - 2006.06.29 15:37:00 -
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Originally by: Cringeley
If I were CCP I would be getting sick of you blaming them for your lack of timezone coverage. Just get stuck in, enjoy the battles. See my previous post for clarification.
roflmao
outta here, makes no sense to try to argue
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Annian
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Posted - 2006.06.29 15:44:00 -
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Edited by: Annian on 29/06/2006 15:46:23
Edited by: Annian on 29/06/2006 15:44:26
Originally by: grizouh
the only one i blame atm is ccp!
You what?
Lets look through your logic here. You pay CCP Ç15 a month for the ability to fill up your free time, right? Now, unless it's fun, you'll stop playing, correct?
Now, why on earth would they deliberatly inhibit your playing experience? Tell me. Go on. How the hell is it CCP's fault. Why would CCP - on purpose - lag the clients of a significant portion of their userbase up.
You where the fault lies? The level of technology feasible for the Eve server cluster just isn't advanced enough to support hundreds of clients trading huge amounts of data. That's what you should blame. The server cluster. An inanimate object. Let's all criticize a room full of silicon and copper wire.
There isn't any blame here, no more than you can blame plate tectonics for earthquakes. Get over it. It just happens. |
Aramark
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Posted - 2006.06.29 16:03:00 -
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i blame CCP also.. i blame them for not making my dial-up = to t3 .. oh yeah. can i have a refund too.?
GJ on the fighting to both sides keep it up.. nice to see other threads other than..... dare i say the 3 letter name
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Purgatori
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Posted - 2006.06.29 16:09:00 -
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Even tho the lagg is very frustrating the past nights have been fantastic
With TCF logging off i was beginning to think is this how eve is now ?
But the goons thankfully proved me wrong and hours of constant fleet battles as they should be. FUN.
Thank you to both sides for neither logging off or running. And both sides just kicking the living hell out of each other!
Respect to both sides. Lets see more of the same!~
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Trillian Dent
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Posted - 2006.06.29 16:24:00 -
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The real question is:
Why was there no lag in EC event beginning of April with 700 peeps in system - attacking mulitple POSs - with I don't know 100s of Mobile warp inhibiters, but in this system there is lag and namingly CCP can't provide resources for that system?
just a question.
Otherwise we enjoy fighting Goons (better then the chicken heads in venal) and my respect for the Goons for this.
Now that we finished our 50 Billion marketing campaign to launch our T R U S T Brand - What's next? |
Andyyeo
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Posted - 2006.06.29 16:35:00 -
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Originally by: Trillian Dent
The real question is:
Why was there no lag in EC event beginning of April with 700 peeps in system - attacking mulitple POSs - with I don't know 100s of Mobile warp inhibiters, but in this system there is lag and namingly CCP can't provide resources for that system?
just a question.
Otherwise we enjoy fighting Goons (better then the chicken heads in venal) and my respect for the Goons for this.
b/c obviously the devs dont like you, nah but whats with all this stuff about lag being the reason adn how ppl dont log on when the other is online, lag is nothing new so you know its gona be there.
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Croesus
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Posted - 2006.06.29 16:42:00 -
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Originally by: Happydayz
Uhh, to all the Steel Vipers complaining about Goonswarm not attacking when hostiles are present: that's how timezones work. Goonswarm is a predominately US based alliance whereas D2/YouWhat are primarily European based. D2/YouWhat are going to commit dreads to battle during their primetime, and Goonswarm will commit dreads during their primetime.
One key element of who will win this war is whomever's off-time players can best hold the line against the enemies primetime fleet. From STV's complaining it looks like they aren't very effective at all during US primetime, whereas Goonswarm is doing rather well for itself fending off D2/STV attacks during European primetime.
But this is just one determinent of victory. It remains to be seen which sides logistics, morale, and determination will best the other.
Off time, primetime bla bla bla doesnt mean squat who will win. The one who will win is the one who wants it more.
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Phichi
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Posted - 2006.06.29 16:52:00 -
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lol
deja vu
Muggers point out failures in one's personal security measures, but it does not alter the fact that they are muggers.
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13th
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Posted - 2006.06.29 16:53:00 -
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Originally by: Trillian Dent
The real question is:
Why was there no lag in EC event beginning of April with 700 peeps in system - attacking mulitple POSs - with I don't know 100s of Mobile warp inhibiters, but in this system there is lag and namingly CCP can't provide resources for that system?
just a question.
Otherwise we enjoy fighting Goons (better then the chicken heads in venal) and my respect for the Goons for this.
I will let you in on the secret my friend, but only because you leave me no choice.
We have the real Hammer.
Several months ago, Goon and Smash hatched a plan. This was before Goonfleet was even in the game - they were planning ahead. Deviously. They are devilishly devious. Or deviously devilish, I don't know which.
We lured Hammer out from a secluded pub in Iceland with the promise of Boobies. He is chained up in my basement as we speak. If he wants to eat, we force him to change the server load dynamics to favor Goon/Smash forces and timezones.
To ensure that he will not be missed at CCP offices we have dressed up one of our people in Icelandic Attire, which according to the Bjork videos that we studied consists of clothing made from goose and ducks and chains. Armed with a set of sunglasses and an Icelandic vocabulary that consists of 'boobies', 'beer' and a few choice insults, we have set our infiltrator loose into the unsuspecting bowels of the CCP headquarters. At first our agent was worried, but repeated usage of 'Boobies' in louder and more excited tones seemed to convince all the employees that he was Hammer, just a different looking Hammer. After all, if Kali will change all the ships to look different, but the same, why can't it happen to the employees? Our agent has in fact confided to us in secret telegrams (because Iceland lacks telephone technology) that CCP employees have been spending more time in the bathroom than before, carefully grooming themselves and inspecting themselves in the mirror to see if they are changing into more beautiful, sexy people.
As a side effect of our Hammer infiltrating CCP, he has taken it upon his own initiative to nerf Amarr and Caldari ships into uselessness, as evident from reading the ships forum.
Meanwhile, the real Hammer is chained in our basement, feverishly changing the networking loads whenever D2 members log on and returning it back to playable levels when they leave. We sometimes appease his appetite with some **** and pork chops.
You cannot survive make your time.
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Nicocat
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Posted - 2006.06.29 17:10:00 -
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Hmm. I've been watching a while, and I think lag is being used as a viable weapon. If the Goons wait until D2/STV jump into a POS, THEN launch all of their cans and drones at once, that's deliberately trying to lag out the system. So is typing as fast as possible in local; when 200 people type "lol" 2 or 3 times a second, a server is going to be very unhappy.
My vote goes to CCP banning the attacking Goons for being pathetic little munchkins who'd rather lag out their opponents.
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Yes, I PvP in a Hookbill. How insane am I? EVE-Mail me and tell me! |
Cythereon
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Posted - 2006.06.29 17:26:00 -
[328]
Originally by: Nicocat
Hmm. I've been watching a while, and I think lag is being used as a viable weapon. If the Goons wait until D2/STV jump into a POS, THEN launch all of their cans and drones at once, that's deliberately trying to lag out the system. So is typing as fast as possible in local; when 200 people type "lol" 2 or 3 times a second, a server is going to be very unhappy.
My vote goes to CCP banning the attacking Goons for being pathetic little munchkins who'd rather lag out their opponents.
They're launching DRONES????
How dare they!
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Nicocat
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Posted - 2006.06.29 17:27:00 -
[329]
Originally by: Cythereon
Originally by: Nicocat
Hmm. I've been watching a while, and I think lag is being used as a viable weapon. If the Goons wait until D2/STV jump into a POS, THEN launch all of their cans and drones at once, that's deliberately trying to lag out the system. So is typing as fast as possible in local; when 200 people type "lol" 2 or 3 times a second, a server is going to be very unhappy.
My vote goes to CCP banning the attacking Goons for being pathetic little munchkins who'd rather lag out their opponents.
They're launching DRONES????
How dare they!
Mostly the cargo container spammage, less emphasis on the drones.
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Yes, I PvP in a Hookbill. How insane am I? EVE-Mail me and tell me! |
Cythereon
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Posted - 2006.06.29 17:30:00 -
[330]
Originally by: Nicocat
Originally by: Cythereon
Originally by: Nicocat
Hmm. I've been watching a while, and I think lag is being used as a viable weapon. If the Goons wait until D2/STV jump into a POS, THEN launch all of their cans and drones at once, that's deliberately trying to lag out the system. So is typing as fast as possible in local; when 200 people type "lol" 2 or 3 times a second, a server is going to be very unhappy.
My vote goes to CCP banning the attacking Goons for being pathetic little munchkins who'd rather lag out their opponents.
They're launching DRONES????
How dare they!
Mostly the cargo container spammage, less emphasis on the drones.
Any emphasis on drones is retarded. Contrary to public belief, drones are used in combat to great effect.
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Heptameron
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Posted - 2006.06.29 17:30:00 -
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for the naysayers who most likely just have an axe to grind and have likely been spanked by D2/Rzr mentioning no names *cough* E.R.A get your empire huggin rears into XZH to experience it before swearing it's not happening.
To Goon... kudos... seriously. At least they do try and have had some success unlike a certain group of french types who have the uncanny ability to stop wanting to play all at the same time (they would win olympic gold for synchronised internet problems....). Be nice not to have the constant local barrage and convos though. Let's fight cleanly and smack free.
But this is a long way from over, i mean no where near unless the munchkins have run back to their rabbit hole in syndicate. *sniff* I still miss my old home, hope you're treating it nicely now.
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Panzer Klien
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Posted - 2006.06.29 17:38:00 -
[332]
Originally by: Nicocat
Originally by: Cythereon
Originally by: Nicocat
Hmm. I've been watching a while, and I think lag is being used as a viable weapon. If the Goons wait until D2/STV jump into a POS, THEN launch all of their cans and drones at once, that's deliberately trying to lag out the system. So is typing as fast as possible in local; when 200 people type "lol" 2 or 3 times a second, a server is going to be very unhappy.
My vote goes to CCP banning the attacking Goons for being pathetic little munchkins who'd rather lag out their opponents.
They're launching DRONES????
How dare they!
Mostly the cargo container spammage, less emphasis on the drones.
Holy crap are you retarded?
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AltSpy McSpy
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Posted - 2006.06.29 17:43:00 -
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Edited by: AltSpy McSpy on 29/06/2006 17:43:41
Wow, long thread.
Here's an amusing interpretation of the goon vs. d2 conflict!
Goon vs D2
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Panzer Klien
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Posted - 2006.06.29 17:46:00 -
[334]
fofofofo?
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AltSpy McSpy
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Posted - 2006.06.29 17:48:00 -
[335]
Originally by: Panzer Klien
fofofofo?
You're a goon alt poster and you don't know what fofofofo is?
what
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Panzer Klien
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Posted - 2006.06.29 17:49:00 -
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Edited by: Panzer Klien on 29/06/2006 17:50:03
I'm an alt, but neither d2 nor goon.
(nor BoB)
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Aramark
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Posted - 2006.06.29 17:59:00 -
[337]
Originally by: Panzer Klien
Edited by: Panzer Klien on 29/06/2006 17:50:03
I'm an alt, but neither d2 nor goon.
(nor BoB)
and you can't use your main because...???
if you post with a alt than rethink and don't post at all.
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Panzer Klien
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Posted - 2006.06.29 18:24:00 -
[338]
How about I post however I please with which ever account I please?
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Nicocat
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Posted - 2006.06.29 18:44:00 -
[339]
Wow, such hostility. Oh well, I don't pay any heed to alts =P Go STV! Boot the blobbers out!
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Yes, I PvP in a Hookbill. How insane am I? EVE-Mail me and tell me! |
Aramark
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Posted - 2006.06.29 18:55:00 -
[340]
Originally by: Panzer Klien
How about I post however I please with which ever account I please?
yes you may, and that is the sad gift CCP lets you have.. to hide.
just shows how sad people like you are that are to afraid to be known.
waste of a eve account
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Naurhir
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Posted - 2006.06.29 18:59:00 -
[341]
And you arguing with a "coward" doesn't improve your image much either~ |
Panzer Klien
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Posted - 2006.06.29 19:03:00 -
[342]
I use an alt so my opinion is not mistaken for that of my corp.
anyway back onto the topic at hand.
fofofo?
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katz3
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Posted - 2006.06.29 19:13:00 -
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It's the 3rd day now and its still laggy like hell. Seems like GMs and Devs dont care at all :(
Btw, local count has reached 340ppl....takes like 1min to activate modules.
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Sierra Lenova
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Posted - 2006.06.29 19:48:00 -
[344]
Edited by: Sierra Lenova on 29/06/2006 19:53:24
Originally by: katz3
It's the 3rd day now and its still laggy like hell. Seems like GMs and Devs dont care at all :(
Btw, local count has reached 340ppl....takes like 1min to activate modules.
Sounds like the south and east of the north are probably pretty vulnerable right now. Should be an interesting fight. Good luck to both sides trying to deal with all that lag.
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MacDuncan
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Posted - 2006.06.29 20:22:00 -
[345]
Originally by: Cythereon
Originally by: Nicocat
Originally by: Cythereon
Originally by: Nicocat
Hmm. I've been watching a while, and I think lag is being used as a viable weapon. If the Goons wait until D2/STV jump into a POS, THEN launch all of their cans and drones at once, that's deliberately trying to lag out the system. So is typing as fast as possible in local; when 200 people type "lol" 2 or 3 times a second, a server is going to be very unhappy.
My vote goes to CCP banning the attacking Goons for being pathetic little munchkins who'd rather lag out their opponents.
They're launching DRONES????
How dare they!
Mostly the cargo container spammage, less emphasis on the drones.
Any emphasis on drones is retarded. Contrary to public belief, drones are used in combat to great effect.
Ok...Mr....plz answer my simple question:
How can drohnes be any usefull deploying them INSIDE the force field w. Dreads outside and no hostile worth for them within app. 250km???
I'm asking just out of curiosity...maybe i just missed that part during the last 2 years??
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Gordon Red
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Posted - 2006.06.29 20:43:00 -
[346]
He said "great effect" and he is true. lag = great effect
400+ in local
Sometimes it is very laggy, imho not as bad as yesterday.
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Ringo Holliday
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Posted - 2006.06.29 20:56:00 -
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Lag goes both ways guys, but from the sound of it it's only YouWhat that suffer from it.
Post in the support forums, and start threads in general discussion to get it fixed, don't whine here in anticipation of losing yet again.
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DrLogan
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Posted - 2006.06.29 21:00:00 -
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Originally by: Ringo Holliday
Lag goes both ways guys, but from the sound of it it's only YouWhat that suffer from it. .
Goons rarely post, unless on alts. (Not an insult, just an observation.)
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Ringo Holliday
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Posted - 2006.06.29 21:05:00 -
[349]
Alt, yes, but not in GF; but my room mate is and I'm following the battles - and yeah, GF seem to have massive troubles with lag aswell not being able to do what they want.
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DrRockIT
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Posted - 2006.06.29 21:22:00 -
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Edited by: DrRockIT on 29/06/2006 21:22:50
I Cant understand why there are none of those Polarisfrigs showing up in XZH, in almost every large fight i took part in G and D¦ the GMs or CCP-Stuffmembers showed up.
That gaves a bit hope that they are trying to fix the lag issues, but XZH-Siege takes place compleatly without them, althogh there must be hundreds of petitions about the crazy things that are going on as soon as both sides clashes....
So where is CCP, is there a chance of boosting the node or is it allready at maximum?
GF Goons, but plz rethink ur dronetactics and all that cargocontainerspam...
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Happydayz
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Posted - 2006.06.29 21:26:00 -
[351]
There was a Polaris frig in 9-4.
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Tulthix
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Posted - 2006.06.29 21:26:00 -
[352]
Great thread! Its been a great read, and makes me want to fly out and enlist on either side to join in the fun.
Can't wait to find out how all this will end when the dust settles.
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Califax Oman
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Posted - 2006.06.29 21:28:00 -
[353]
Go Goons Go!
Lag freaking blows, but its lag and both sides are affected. My dream is to one day be in a fleet battle with like 1000 people in local and it be as lag free as the clients connection will allow, but for now everyone is in the same boat.
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Tanya Kovacs
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Posted - 2006.06.29 21:33:00 -
[354]
Originally by: Happydayz
There was a Polaris frig in 9-4.
Yeah, there was an issue to solve.
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Fred0
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Posted - 2006.06.29 21:49:00 -
[355]
Fix the bloody game now. Lagged out for half an hour trying to log in 3 jumps out. This dynamic load balancing thingy has to be the biggest ****take in EVE so far.
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MacDuncan
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Posted - 2006.06.29 21:54:00 -
[356]
I'm still "entering game...." after a totally freezed client.
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Deidranna
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Posted - 2006.06.29 22:22:00 -
[357]
Edited by: Deidranna on 29/06/2006 22:25:33
And Now for Something Completely Different...
good fights tonight.
lag yes, but less than last days.
was fun, mostly.
thx all involved (403 peek)
deidranna
Sig image was way too large -Abdalion
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Tanya Kovacs
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Posted - 2006.06.29 22:28:00 -
[358]
After the first lame droneaction, it was a nice fight. Especially cool move of the goonies to engage the supportfleet. Nice fight, good night.
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vladdy2
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Posted - 2006.06.29 23:08:00 -
[359]
Looks like the lag cleared up there for 5 minutes huh?
hope you are all having fun!!!!!
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Esaam DeVries
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Posted - 2006.06.29 23:21:00 -
[360]
Originally by: vladdy2
Looks like the lag cleared up there for 5 minutes huh?
No, it was insane.
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natashii
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Posted - 2006.06.29 23:55:00 -
[361]
Edited by: natashii on 29/06/2006 23:58:37
Those of you who are doubting goonfleet, should read their killboard and compare the losses vs their wins. Yesterday they had the following kills - Revelation, Moros,Phonix, Moros...a little more d2 pwnage than you are giving them credit for... As for the assumption that they are a fleet of t1 frigs...It's a known fact that goonfleet lose a lot of frigs because they believe in Kamikaze-tacklers and for good reason. This tactic is nothing new and has been used by respected corps for years.
Secondly, what people REALLY should be talking about here is how dread pilots of d2 are petitioning to be moved out of the XZH- instead of fighting fairly. This is where, I lose faith in this game. So if we are going to start bashing someone, I suggest you don't start with one of the only alliances lately that appears to be playing by the rules. When (errrr if) CCP can get stronger servers and lag can be reduced, there will be no problem with the size fleets goonfleet can produce, so using that as an excuse to ridicule is absurd.
Hell, I've gone to war with GF in the past...a few times actually, but I can still call BS when I see it. Since goonfleet, is being too noble to call d2 out on the forum boards for such petitioning idiocy, someone should do it. Play the game like it's supposed to be played.
Props to goonfleet for keeping their dignity and holding their new space.
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For God's sake, shake me. Shake me like a British nanny.
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Deva Blackfire
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Posted - 2006.06.30 00:22:00 -
[362]
Edited by: Deva Blackfire on 30/06/2006 00:22:35
Originally by: natashii
a lot of stuff :)
Ill tell one thing - wasnt taking part in todays battles but saw how friend fared. Dread fleet + support BS/frig fleet (D2+allies) was sitting at distance from POS blasting it, goons sat in POS. Lag? Abt 2-3 seconds before modules activated. Then goons launched drones inside POS. Why? Noone (lol) knows - closest enemies were dreads at abt 100km from POS. But the lag went from 2-3 seconds to 1-2 minutes for module activation.
Is this considered exploiting? I know that drones were banned from attacking on POS, because they lagged everything to hell and POS guns attacked drones instead of ships. Maybe using drones by defenders (inside bubble) should be also considered exploit?
And yes - i do have screenies of that "tactics". So like you say: maybe try to play game as it is meant to ble played - so no crashing/lagging nodes to hell.
We can have good battles (we did have some) but when one side tries to lag other in hopes of POS guns killing enemies when they cant do anything - it sucks.
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AltSpy McSpy
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Posted - 2006.06.30 00:29:00 -
[363]
Page 13 snipah?
Weird to see Natashii defending goons. Guys, we need this girl!
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Refeirg Atonmi
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Posted - 2006.06.30 01:02:00 -
[364]
Originally by: Deva Blackfire
Drone "Exploits", POS Firing on Enemies due to drones
Let me start by saying that due to a standings problem, the POS was not even shooting at anyone in the YouWhat alliance.
Secondly, Drones were only brought out right after we warped in to the POS, incase we needed to rush. They stayed out for something like 5 minutes, at which point they were brought back in, and stayed so for hours inbetween engagements.
I was sure that you guys would stoop low enough to argue this (goons cause more lag even though there were more D2 in the system, i like that argument too), so i even took a screenshot a while after we scooped the drones back in.
Also, compare local count to gang count to verify this. In the following image, you can also see our can jettison hacks (about 5 cans floating there with ammo).
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/2084/dronerebuttle5nv.jpg
10 of the drones in that picture are actually carrier fighters assigned to players too.
I'll have you know that it's against the rules of my alliance to post here, but false accusations simply make my blood boil.
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Cythereon
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Posted - 2006.06.30 01:24:00 -
[365]
Originally by: natashii
Edited by: natashii on 29/06/2006 23:58:37
Those of you who are doubting goonfleet, should read their killboard and compare the losses vs their wins. Yesterday they had the following kills - Revelation, Moros,Phonix, Moros...a little more d2 pwnage than you are giving them credit for... As for the assumption that they are a fleet of t1 frigs...It's a known fact that goonfleet lose a lot of frigs because they believe in Kamikaze-tacklers and for good reason. This tactic is nothing new and has been used by respected corps for years.
Secondly, what people REALLY should be talking about here is how dread pilots of d2 are petitioning to be moved out of the XZH- instead of fighting fairly. This is where, I lose faith in this game. So if we are going to start bashing someone, I suggest you don't start with one of the only alliances lately that appears to be playing by the rules. When (errrr if) CCP can get stronger servers and lag can be reduced, there will be no problem with the size fleets goonfleet can produce, so using that as an excuse to ridicule is absurd.
Hell, I've gone to war with GF in the past...a few times actually, but I can still call BS when I see it. Since goonfleet, is being too noble to call d2 out on the forum boards for such petitioning idiocy, someone should do it. Play the game like it's supposed to be played.
Props to goonfleet for keeping their dignity and holding their new space.
WildCard was apparantly suspended for 14 days for petitioning to save his dread.
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DrLogan
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Posted - 2006.06.30 01:31:00 -
[366]
So what, petitioning something is against the rules now? They should be blaming the GM that did it.
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ispyon u
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Posted - 2006.06.30 01:31:00 -
[367]
Originally by: Cythereon
Originally by: natashii
Edited by: natashii on 29/06/2006 23:58:37
Those of you who are doubting goonfleet, should read their killboard and compare the losses vs their wins. Yesterday they had the following kills - Revelation, Moros,Phonix, Moros...a little more d2 pwnage than you are giving them credit for... As for the assumption that they are a fleet of t1 frigs...It's a known fact that goonfleet lose a lot of frigs because they believe in Kamikaze-tacklers and for good reason. This tactic is nothing new and has been used by respected corps for years.
Secondly, what people REALLY should be talking about here is how dread pilots of d2 are petitioning to be moved out of the XZH- instead of fighting fairly. This is where, I lose faith in this game. So if we are going to start bashing someone, I suggest you don't start with one of the only alliances lately that appears to be playing by the rules. When (errrr if) CCP can get stronger servers and lag can be reduced, there will be no problem with the size fleets goonfleet can produce, so using that as an excuse to ridicule is absurd.
Hell, I've gone to war with GF in the past...a few times actually, but I can still call BS when I see it. Since goonfleet, is being too noble to call d2 out on the forum boards for such petitioning idiocy, someone should do it. Play the game like it's supposed to be played.
Props to goonfleet for keeping their dignity and holding their new space.
WildCard was apparantly suspended for 14 days for petitioning to save his dread.
Can anyone verify if this is true?
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Cringeley
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Posted - 2006.06.30 01:43:00 -
[368]
Alt posters don't help anything. If you care about goonfleet then withdraw. |
Body Count
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Posted - 2006.06.30 01:52:00 -
[369]
Originally by: natashii
Edited by: natashii on 29/06/2006 23:58:37
I suggest you don't start with one of the only alliances lately that appears to be playing by the rules.
Hell, I've gone to war with GF in the past...a few times actually, but I can still call BS when I see it. Since goonfleet, is being too noble to call d2 out on the forum boards for such petitioning idiocy, someone should do it. Play the game like it's supposed to be played.
Props to goonfleet for keeping their dignity and holding their new space.
Natashii, you don't know me well but I know you and I know your corp pretty well. Using words like noble, dignity and playing by the rules in reference to Goonfleet is absurd. Look at all the smack in this thread by Goons and alts. That alone puts your words to the lie.
I was also talking to some D2 pilots last night. A d2 cov ops pilot literally watched Goonies dropping cans all around the station in XZH to cause more lag. I've heard D2 pilots complain repeatedly about Goonies using drones and cans to generate more lag.
I don't think such tactics need the word "noble" applied to them.
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DrLogan
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Posted - 2006.06.30 02:05:00 -
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And to add to that, all the goons at one point spammed local. And just to clarify, 1 person didn't speak more than once, they just all simultaneously said "fofofofofo" in local.
Unhonorable tactic..
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Lorth
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Posted - 2006.06.30 02:06:00 -
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Originally by: Body Count
Natashii, you don't know me well but I know you and I know your corp pretty well. Using words like noble, dignity and playing by the rules in reference to Goonfleet is absurd. Look at all the smack in this thread by Goons and alts. That alone puts your words to the lie.
I was also talking to some D2 pilots last night. A d2 cov ops pilot literally watched Goonies dropping cans all around the station in XZH to cause more lag. I've heard D2 pilots complain repeatedly about Goonies using drones and cans to generate more lag.
I don't think such tactics need the word "noble" applied to them.
I was going trying to stay out of this thread, because I honestly can't say anything nice at all about the situation in outher ring atm.
What this guys says is the truth.
We warp in, and there are suddenly hundreds of drones out, inside the bubble, 200km away from our nearest ship.
For some random reason, cargo can's show up as we are entering warp. I'll give you one guess as to who put them there, and why.
When we say that we have lost dread to lag, its because we have lost dreads to lag. And that lag has been 'enhanced' to great effect by our enemys.
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Amerame
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Posted - 2006.06.30 02:27:00 -
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Originally by: DrLogan
So what, petitioning something is against the rules now? They should be blaming the GM that did it.
I guess it could be if the GM consider afterward that you lied in your petition, like saying you "cannot" log in and asking your ship to be moved while in fact you "can" log in. I'm not saying it is what happened I have no idea, but I could definitely imagine a situation in which the junior GM move a guy who's asking without checking anything, out of good faith, and then a senior GM get a petition from another guy complaining about the move and taking action if he considers the player has purposedly mislead the GM to get his ship moved.
If I remember correctly it sort of happened a while back when someone who was camped for days inside a station asked to be moved to safe space. A GM complied and was moved back to the camped station afterward by a senior GM after complains of a third party.
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Tuijabird
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Posted - 2006.06.30 02:32:00 -
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Edited by: Tuijabird on 30/06/2006 02:33:51
At todays killboard. The goons have been seriously raped repeatedly in combat? Wow i wish i could partake in some of that.Even with lame lagging tactics, they are just getting crushed.Lets face it. Without the lag. a lucky pos dread kills. You guys have been getting wiped the floor with.
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roikorev
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Posted - 2006.06.30 02:46:00 -
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Originally by: Lorth
Originally by: Body Count
Natashii, you don't know me well but I know you and I know your corp pretty well. Using words like noble, dignity and playing by the rules in reference to Goonfleet is absurd. Look at all the smack in this thread by Goons and alts. That alone puts your words to the lie.
I was also talking to some D2 pilots last night. A d2 cov ops pilot literally watched Goonies dropping cans all around the station in XZH to cause more lag. I've heard D2 pilots complain repeatedly about Goonies using drones and cans to generate more lag.
I don't think such tactics need the word "noble" applied to them.
I was going trying to stay out of this thread, because I honestly can't say anything nice at all about the situation in outher ring atm.
What this guys says is the truth.
We warp in, and there are suddenly hundreds of drones out, inside the bubble, 200km away from our nearest ship.
For some random reason, cargo can's show up as we are entering warp. I'll give you one guess as to who put them there, and why.
When we say that we have lost dread to lag, its because we have lost dreads to lag. And that lag has been 'enhanced' to great effect by our enemys.
Your blindness is sickening. I am serious, it is sickening. Were you even in xzh? If you were you would know that d2 brought rzr, nfc, sparta, norad, and youwhat in a ridiculously oversized blob. 6 alliances in one system, bringing local to 400. D2 outnumbered GS nearly 2 to 1. YET SOMEHOW, SOMEHOW, we caused the lag. 3-4 anchored gsc's did not lag the server. Deploying drones for 5 minutes when we believed you were going to warp into range did not cause all that lag. Deploying cans was used in the past (not today) as a way to give us warp in points on snipers, not to lag the server.
Now, the fact of the matter is that having 400 people in server causes lag. And if anyone is responsible for that, it is d2 for bringing in a coalition of alliances into one system. It's stupid that the game can't handle it but thats just how it is, and if you're so desperate to blame someone, then you can blame yourselves.
D2 you do not fight with honor. Your pilots exploit the petition system to save their ships when we are about to kill them, you smack endlessly in local and on these forums, and you refuse to believe that lag is caused by anything other than magic goonfleet hax.
Also, the smack in this thread has consisted of 5% GS alts who fall for flamebait (like me), and 95% d2 + allies posting on their mains smacking goonfleet. You would seriously have to be blind to believe otherwise.
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Lorth
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Posted - 2006.06.30 02:54:00 -
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Originally by: roikorev
[:roll:
Your blindness is sickening. I am serious, it is sickening. Were you even in xzh? If you were you would know that d2 brought rzr, nfc, sparta, norad, and youwhat in a ridiculously oversized blob. 6 alliances in one system, bringing local to 400. D2 outnumbered GS nearly 2 to 1. YET SOMEHOW, SOMEHOW, we caused the lag. 3-4 anchored gsc's did not lag the server. Deploying drones for 5 minutes when we believed you were going to warp into range did not cause all that lag. Deploying cans was used in the past (not today) as a way to give us warp in points on snipers, not to lag the server.
I'm saying that you are deploying cans, and drones when niether have any reason what so ever to be on the battle field.
Now I would think that was done in an effort to cause lag. Unless you can explain to the eve community exactly what purpose deploying cans served, and in such large numbers.
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roikorev
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Posted - 2006.06.30 02:55:00 -
[376]
Originally by: Tuijabird
Edited by: Tuijabird on 30/06/2006 02:33:51
At todays killboard. The goons have been seriously raped repeatedly in combat? Wow i wish i could partake in some of that.Even with lame lagging tactics, they are just getting crushed.Lets face it. Without the lag. a lucky pos dread kills. You guys have been getting wiped the floor with.
Lets look at the facts:
Capital ships lost
D2 - 5 dreadnaughts
GS - 1 carrier
Pos's put into reinforced
D2 - 4 large, 1 medium (3 were later destroyed)
GS - 1 large pos (after 2-3 hours of effort)
Pos's destroyed
D2 - 2 large, 1 medium
GS - 0
Succesful Sieges/Attempts
D2 - 1/3
GS - 8/8 (6 times with the pos's that were destroyed + 2 in reinforced now)
GS + SMASH = GS
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Posted - 2006.06.30 02:59:00 -
[377]
Originally by: roikorev
Originally by: Tuijabird
Edited by: Tuijabird on 30/06/2006 02:33:51
At todays killboard. The goons have been seriously raped repeatedly in combat? Wow i wish i could partake in some of that.Even with lame lagging tactics, they are just getting crushed.Lets face it. Without the lag. a lucky pos dread kills. You guys have been getting wiped the floor with.
Lets look at the facts:
Capital ships lost
D2 - 5 dreadnaughts
GS - 1 carrier
Pos's put into reinforced
D2 - 4 large, 1 medium (3 were later destroyed)
GS - 1 large pos (after 2-3 hours of effort)
Pos's destroyed
D2 - 2 large, 1 medium
GS - 0
Succesful Sieges/Attempts
D2 - 1/3
GS - 8/8 (6 times with the pos's that were destroyed + 2 in reinforced now)
GS + SMASH = GS
D2, YOUWHAT, SPARTA, RAZOR, NFC, NORAD = D2
The timezone issue plays a huge role in the POS numbers...
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Posted - 2006.06.30 03:01:00 -
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To all the goons who participated in this evenings and nights fleet battle great fun guys..
This evening and night was just so much fun and well at these times there isnt so much lag so we can finaly enjoy the game..
Its also look like the node has been reinforced so thats all good also..
Like i was syaing repect to the goons and happy fighting in the next days and nights..
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roikorev
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Posted - 2006.06.30 03:02:00 -
[379]
Originally by: Lorth
Originally by: roikorev
[:roll:
Your blindness is sickening. I am serious, it is sickening. Were you even in xzh? If you were you would know that d2 brought rzr, nfc, sparta, norad, and youwhat in a ridiculously oversized blob. 6 alliances in one system, bringing local to 400. D2 outnumbered GS nearly 2 to 1. YET SOMEHOW, SOMEHOW, we caused the lag. 3-4 anchored gsc's did not lag the server. Deploying drones for 5 minutes when we believed you were going to warp into range did not cause all that lag. Deploying cans was used in the past (not today) as a way to give us warp in points on snipers, not to lag the server.
I'm saying that you are deploying cans, and drones when niether have any reason what so ever to be on the battle field.
Now I would think that was done in an effort to cause lag. Unless you can explain to the eve community exactly what purpose deploying cans served, and in such large numbers.
When ships blow up they leave cans. D2 comes along and see's our cans and thinks "omg hacks". We didn't use cans at the pos. However, in the past we have used them at gates to warp to snipers. When you have to factor in all the different ranges, different directions, and noobs who dont listen to directions and just keep dropping cans, it can add up.
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Aytalha
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Posted - 2006.06.30 03:03:00 -
[380]
Originally by: Tuijabird
Edited by: Tuijabird on 30/06/2006 02:33:51
The timezone issue plays a huge role in the POS numbers...
No, it doesn't. Your continued fallback to this excuse is laughable. D2 has their primetime just like GS has their primetime. So far, GS has been able to stave off D2 attacks effectively during their non-primetime. The same is not true for D2 and thus the imbalance of POSes taken down.
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Posted - 2006.06.30 03:06:00 -
[381]
Originally by: ispyon u
Originally by: roikorev
Originally by: Tuijabird
Edited by: Tuijabird on 30/06/2006 02:33:51
At todays killboard. The goons have been seriously raped repeatedly in combat? Wow i wish i could partake in some of that.Even with lame lagging tactics, they are just getting crushed.Lets face it. Without the lag. a lucky pos dread kills. You guys have been getting wiped the floor with.
Lets look at the facts:
Capital ships lost
D2 - 5 dreadnaughts
GS - 1 carrier
Pos's put into reinforced
D2 - 4 large, 1 medium (3 were later destroyed)
GS - 1 large pos (after 2-3 hours of effort)
Pos's destroyed
D2 - 2 large, 1 medium
GS - 0
Succesful Sieges/Attempts
D2 - 1/3
GS - 8/8 (6 times with the pos's that were destroyed + 2 in reinforced now)
GS + SMASH = GS
D2, YOUWHAT, SPARTA, RAZOR, NFC, NORAD = D2
The timezone issue plays a huge role in the POS numbers...
You're right, if D2 and GS ever allied they would probably take over eve simply because they would have a 200 person fleet 24/7.
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Jurushy
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Posted - 2006.06.30 03:07:00 -
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that is not true
the siege we start today was mostly LAGFREE till GOONS STARTS TO AKT
in my opinion only goons are responseble for the lag becouse they use it to kill the dreads
i dread which is out of controll which cannnot aktivate or deaktivate boosters or siegemod is an easy target
all dreads was killes by lag
3 schildtank ph÷nix which was lagkilled becouse the couldnt switsch on/off the schildbooster and so capdrained to hell
and 2 other which couldnt move after the siegemode was disabel
tha fact is GOONSWARM try the same lagtaktick today again
we had no ph÷nix dreads today so the siege goes fin till we decide to refule the dread whit stronzium
most of the dreads comes out so the goons saw this and started an attak
at the same time we get again an unplayable LAG (same as the other 2 times we try to kill ther POS)
the ships was out of controll for many minutes
i my opinion it doesnt sounds like a contingency
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ispyon u
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Posted - 2006.06.30 03:07:00 -
[383]
Originally by: Aytalha
Originally by: Tuijabird
Edited by: Tuijabird on 30/06/2006 02:33:51
The timezone issue plays a huge role in the POS numbers...
No, it doesn't. Your continued fallback to this excuse is laughable. D2 has their primetime just like GS has their primetime. So far, GS has been able to stave off D2 attacks effectively during their non-primetime. The same is not true for D2 and thus the imbalance of POSes taken down.
Not totally.... Goonfleets primetime is in the middle of the night for D2, while D2's primetime is mid-day for Goon... not everyone has a job... but everyone needs to sleep.
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Cringeley
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Posted - 2006.06.30 03:24:00 -
[384]
Originally by: Lorth
I'm saying that you are deploying cans, and drones when niether have any reason what so ever to be on the battle field.
Now I would think that was done in an effort to cause lag. Unless you can explain to the eve community exactly what purpose deploying cans served, and in such large numbers.
We have cans deployed in our POS to distribute ammo. Drones are deployed to fight you in space when we think you are planning to approach. Were you even there, or are you going on the third hand reports of some guy who has a friend who had a covops there?
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Posted - 2006.06.30 03:25:00 -
[385]
Originally by: Jurushy
:words:
Are you serious? You just explained that the lag started as soon as we warped in on the dread and started firing. When else do you expect the lag to start, if not then!?
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roikorev
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Posted - 2006.06.30 03:29:00 -
[386]
Originally by: Jurushy
that is not true
the siege we start today was mostly LAGFREE till GOONS STARTS TO AKT
Good observation. You are correct that when hundreds of ships start fighting each other the game lags up and it is difficult to activate modules properly. However the fact that there is less lag when they are not shooting each other is not surprising at all. If you really want to blame someone for the lag you can blame yourselves because you had twice as many people as GS at the time and therefore contributed to it more. |
Bombcrater
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Posted - 2006.06.30 03:40:00 -
[387]
Originally by: Tuijabird
At todays killboard. The goons have been seriously raped repeatedly in combat? Wow i wish i could partake in some of that.Even with lame lagging tactics, they are just getting crushed.Lets face it. Without the lag. a lucky pos dread kills. You guys have been getting wiped the floor with.
Every time we fought the goons today they took horrendous losses. I haven't checked the killboards or anything, but I'd estimate the kill ratio was in the order of 4:1. They lost a serious number of ships when the goon FC warped his fleet into the middle of ours during the attack on their POS. He was either very brave or very stupid. Perhaps they are learning its more honourable to die in a hopeless charge at the enemy than survive by using lame lag tactics. |
arjun
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Posted - 2006.06.30 04:18:00 -
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i personaly believe the goons about the lagtactics. nothing i have seen suggests, that they use major lag tactics. all the incidents i hear about are explainable with other measures.
i was there in the last 2 sieges and the lag started as soon as the close range fights started. thats to be expected when if not then would the lag hit?
(except the local spam at one time)
so lets ALL stop this accusations please. d2 needed to bring in allies because of the timezone problem, which is a major disadvantage for us. thatswhy that many people in local. it still was about 200 to 200 at the peak.
lests try to keep it friendly even if thats difficult in a war of atrition.
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Dhin Xar
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Posted - 2006.06.30 04:31:00 -
[389]
Got Drones?
(Note: Battleships and Support are over 250km from POS, Dreads atleast 80km) |
Refeirg Atonmi
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Posted - 2006.06.30 04:37:00 -
[390]
Originally by: Dhin Xar
Got Drones?
(Note: Battleships and Support are over 250km from POS, Dreads atleast 80km)
Already explained, several times over.
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Sexual Chocolate
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Posted - 2006.06.30 04:40:00 -
[391]
Originally by: Dhin Xar
Got Drones?
(Note: Battleships and Support are over 250km from POS, Dreads atleast 80km)
Boy that pic sure explains everything!
Wait, what the heck is going on in it?
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Ur Dirac
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Posted - 2006.06.30 05:18:00 -
[392]
Can we please stop with the accusations of cheating? It's just lag, people, it happens.
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Tuijabird
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Posted - 2006.06.30 05:38:00 -
[393]
Edited by: Tuijabird on 30/06/2006 05:43:19
Keep it up goons. I can post the facts of multiple enemies that lag fighting you. People directly related or leading your corp are telling people what to do to lag. Launch dromes, spam local, invites, mass self destructing pods in same place only after enemies warp in. What do you goons do to lag people that is not so visable as these tactics? i nkow. :) I think you guys have done it all tbh, and said by others before? You use most tactics avaible to you to lag your enemy. Not just your noobie ship tacklers at times. YOU use other things to lag the enemy and Promote it in corp or allaince ops!!! SERIOUSLY tell me i'm wrong so i can post logs and screens. I sick of these tactics. talk back so i can shame you.... sad tactics sad.
Edit - also you know we are supporting the caps that pwned your pos today. You launched drones inside pos to lag NOTHING ELSE and dropped cans at the same time.I don't think EVE is dumb noobies and beleive you have some purpose for doing it.
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asodfjasdlfk
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Posted - 2006.06.30 05:43:00 -
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Edited by: asodfjasdlfk on 30/06/2006 05:43:42
ignore
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Mochalatte
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Posted - 2006.06.30 05:48:00 -
[395]
Edited by: Mochalatte on 30/06/2006 05:49:36
i love you omg we are noobies and don't know better atitude. yet when you get lag kills its.OMG YOUR THE LEET SWARM THATS ALWAYS UNDER ESTIMATED.you got punked out today in every fashion of combat it seems on killbs.this is only the beginning of this i would guess.though as good as forum *****s and talking you do noramly in forums. EVE is not as dumb as you think they are.
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Kluppax
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Posted - 2006.06.30 05:48:00 -
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If I actually click the "post reply" button on this message, it will probably get me kicked out my corp, but the amount of smack talk is reaching critical levels, and it's hurting my brain.
First of all, for those of you who are only seeing this battle through the eyes of this forum, you're not seeing the same battle the rest of us are. There are idiots on both sides (and always will be) but for the most part local has been filled with "gf" and respect. Both sides are fighting, both sides are adapting, both sides are bringing it. As is not at all unusual for a GoonFleet member, I am relatively new to this game (less than 3 months)... and if this type of battle isn't what Eve should be about, what is? Being able to take part in this type of combat is incredibly fun, and I've been having a fantastic time.
Yes, I wish the lag wasn't insane. Yes, I wish we could truly engage in epic battles where it just came down to tactics, instead of which side is actually able to target and activate modules. At one point tonight I spent over 15 minutes in XZH just waiting for my guns to reload, before I finally quit and logged back on (and that took another 15 minutes) which was intensely frustrating.
The forum warriors on both sides need to shut up, and let this be decided in game. The ridiculous accusations laid down by some of you make me absolutely furious - do you really think that our battle plan is to wait until you warp in, and then we all launch cans and drones to lag you out? Think about it for a second... just think about it. We don't want lag any more than you do. When dozens of people get popped in combat, is it really that surprising that there are cans around?
As to the drones... yep, I'm guilty of it myself. I'm still a noob to this game, and when this kind of epic combat is going on, making sure I'm ready to do as much damage as I can is my first thought. I've launched my drones when it wasn't necessary. It wasn't as an attempt to lag out your pilots, or some nefarious plot by our directors to get an edge in the battle... it was the result of a relatively inexperienced pilot in a situation he's never seen before.
Stop accusing us of being malicous, and of trying to make the lag worse than it already is, because I have been part of every major battle in XZH, and I promise you there has been no talk anywhere, on our forums, in teamspeak, or during the battles, of anything except the combat at hand. We're not trying to win by dirty tricks, we're trying to win.
The enemies I see in local are not the same enemies I see on this forum... because the enemies in local are for the most part good people, who appreciate the fact that there are good fights to be had. The people on this forum would rather fight with words instead of guns, and I wish you would just shut up and let the rest of us have fun.
This will probably result in my expulsion from the corp (I do not hold this against GoonSwarm - I'm willingly ignoring a corp directive by posting this), and the end of my Eve career. Is it worth it? No, probably not... a forum will warrior insult me, and the smack talk will resume as if this post didn't exist.
But I'm sick of it. This is a game. We're supposed to be playing it for fun. Lag is not fun, and we are Not trying to generate more of it, and those of you claiming that need to stop. For those who keep their mouths shut and fight, I have nothing but respect. For those who'd rather try to fight this battle on the forums, quit wrecking it for the rest of us.
This is my main. I have no other characters, I have no other accounts. I've been a member of GoonFleet since the day I signed up for Eve, and I've been enjoying the hell out of it. As usual with mmorpgs, the major problem is not the game, but the people who play it.
Grow up, have fun, and show a little respect. It's not that hard.
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Posted - 2006.06.30 06:03:00 -
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Originally by: Refeirg Atonmi
Edit: I'd also like to ask how it benefits GoonSwarm to lag the system when we jump in on your dreadnought, and support fleet later on? When we jumped on your support fleet, I couldnt even lock anyone, and almost died after waiting to warp out for about 5 minutes. I can sort of understand how lag helps a defending fleet, but i dont see any advantage in lagging our own offensive fleets out. There were 400 people in local. There was a 150vs200 person fleet battle. There was lag. It was nobodies fault.
All the complaints so far has been about activities at your POSes, as far as I can tell. And there it DOES benefit the defender to lag (even if it does screw your own fleet over), since the POS is unaffected by this and just keeps firing while whomever its firing at can't use modules/warp away.
I am not convinved that you guys are doing it on purpose though, this is nowhere near what it was like in S-U when you guys DID try to do this :P
The lag is nasty though, it takes just over 5 minutes to jump into XZH if you are lucky, and then after you are in system, it takes another 5 just for the grid to load so you can see the bubbles around the gate :P The module lag is a pain in the ass, and we have screenshots of the log window showing how you are at times unable to activate any modules or tell your ship to do anything for well over 10 minutes at a time. That was with +- 340 in local, which isnt as bad as it was at peak of close to 450 I believe.
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There's so many different worlds
So many different suns
And we have just one world
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Posted - 2006.06.30 06:05:00 -
[398]
Originally by: Kluppax
Edited by: Kluppax on 30/06/2006 05:57:21
nevermind..
hypocritizism 4tL eh?
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zalant
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Posted - 2006.06.30 06:12:00 -
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What an interesting thread.
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Posted - 2006.06.30 06:14:00 -
[400]
Originally by: Cringeley
We have cans deployed in our POS to distribute ammo. Drones are deployed to fight you in space when we think you are planning to approach. Were you even there, or are you going on the third hand reports of some guy who has a friend who had a covops there?
Well...again i'm getting seriously curious:
Deploing ammo cans - sure, valid point, granted
Deploing drohnes within the force field directly after warp in to attack our ships - wtf???
How can Acolytes I e.g. harm a dread in siege mode?
How can Acolytes I attack support over 250km distance?
How can you even get a lock INSIDE the field?
Might be a valid 'tactic' IF you were planning to approach any target at all manually outside the force field...but you never 'approached' since you all warped to a gang member...so all your drones would have been left in abandomned in space.
A couple of lonely Infiltrator I's were floating around abandomned inside the POS after your unsuccessfull 1st try to down a dread yesterday. i guess they were 'guarding' something?
I don't complain about assigned fighter drones, notice that plz.
So, honestly, i still don't see ANY reason at all to deploy your combat drones after warping WITHIN the field besides creating more lag than usually in order to lag the dread pilot out of action.
Perhaps you could enlighten me with another explanation??
And yes, i was there, personally, with this char...
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Kaldaine
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Posted - 2006.06.30 06:18:00 -
[401]
Originally by: Mochalatte
Edited by: Mochalatte on 30/06/2006 05:49:36
i love you omg we are noobies and don't know better atitude. yet when you get lag kills its.OMG YOUR THE LEET SWARM THATS ALWAYS UNDER ESTIMATED.you got punked out today in every fashion of combat it seems on killbs.this is only the beginning of this i would guess.though as good as forum *****s and talking you do noramly in forums. EVE is not as dumb as you think they are.
You are currently smacking 2-3 well thought out posts by GF directors and 10-20 alt posts. The fact that you are smacking alt posts speaks volumes.
So far all I have seen from D2 and their allies are excuses as to why they are not doing well and havent kicked an alliance full of 7 million sp characters out of one system.
Maybe if CHSN were involved it would already be over
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Space Negro
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Posted - 2006.06.30 07:22:00 -
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Originally by: Dinique
All the complaints so far has been about activities at your POSes, as far as I can tell. And there it DOES benefit the defender to lag (even if it does screw your own fleet over), since the POS is unaffected by this and just keeps firing while whomever its firing at can't use modules/warp away.
I am not convinved that you guys are doing it on purpose though, this is nowhere near what it was like in S-U when you guys DID try to do this :P
The lag is nasty though, it takes just over 5 minutes to jump into XZH if you are lucky, and then after you are in system, it takes another 5 just for the grid to load so you can see the bubbles around the gate :P The module lag is a pain in the ass, and we have screenshots of the log window showing how you are at times unable to activate any modules or tell your ship to do anything for well over 10 minutes at a time. That was with +- 340 in local, which isnt as bad as it was at peak of close to 450 I believe.
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Posted - 2006.06.30 07:23:00 -
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Originally by: DrLogan
And to add to that, all the goons at one point spammed local. And just to clarify, 1 person didn't speak more than once, they just all simultaneously said "fofofofofo" in local.
Unhonorable tactic..
FYI: the fofofo is an old joke from UO and pretty much only done AFTER a major battle. To claim that it is an "unhonorable" tactic is a little silly as it is done after the decisive engagement and past the point where it really matters (clean up fleets notwithstanding).
Speaking of dishonorable: is there any actual evidence that a D2/STV dread pilot got his account suspended because they falsely filed a stuck petition in order to save their ship?
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Posted - 2006.06.30 07:30:00 -
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Edited by: PopeZeus on 30/06/2006 07:30:21
The mass destruction of pods are Goonfleet members podjumping back to their home in Syndicate to grab more ships and convoy up.
The drones are out because when they exit the forcefield to engage their drones are available to immediately start attacking. Instead of right clicking on your drone bay and waiting ten minutes for the prompts to show up.
Personally I fail to see how the fofofofo's lag the system. One person does one line of it then it is left alone. I don't see how chat can cause so much lag as to delay you in activating your modules. When you go into pvp do you close all your windows except Corp, Alliance, Local, and Gang? No, you don't. If you are complaining about chat causing lag then petition CCP to make Corp, Local, and Alliance closable.
Anyway good luck Goons, I have faith in you.
Also, good game on logging out the dreads and filing a stuck petition to get them moved. How "honorable" of a tactic.
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Tuijabird
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Posted - 2006.06.30 07:31:00 -
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Mr bandwagoner. If it was true proof would be posted eh? lol. Go gang bang someone else in another thread or in game k? as thast the only thign ur good at.
thanks kindly
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Fred0
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Posted - 2006.06.30 07:32:00 -
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Originally by: Happydayz
FYI: the fofofo is an old joke from UO and pretty much only done AFTER a major battle. To claim that it is an "unhonorable" tactic is a little silly as it is done after the decisive engagement and past the point where it really matters (clean up fleets notwithstanding).
I assume LV was there then since you know how it was used in this instance or what?
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Tuijabird
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Posted - 2006.06.30 07:34:00 -
[407]
Originally by: PopeZeus
Edited by: PopeZeus on 30/06/2006 07:30:21
The mass destruction of pods are Goonfleet members podjumping back to their home in Syndicate to grab more ships and convoy up.
The drones are out because when they exit the forcefield to engage their drones are available to immediately start attacking. Instead of right clicking on your drone bay and waiting ten minutes for the prompts to show up.
Personally I fail to see how the fofofofo's lag the system. One person does one line of it then it is left alone. I don't see how chat can cause so much lag as to delay you in activating your modules. When you go into pvp do you close all your windows except Corp, Alliance, Local, and Gang? No, you don't. If you are complaining about chat causing lag then petition CCP to make Corp, Local, and Alliance closable.
Anyway good luck Goons, I have faith in you.
Also, good game on logging out the dreads and filing a stuck petition to get them moved. How "honorable" of a tactic.
Yet another sad person that got just pwned by d2 etc. Like the goons recently. PWNED and sore from it. sad sad era just stfu k? you have no room to talk.
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Posted - 2006.06.30 07:34:00 -
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Edited by: Fred0 on 30/06/2006 07:35:58
Originally by: PopeZeus
The drones are out because when they exit the forcefield to engage their drones are available to immediately start attacking. Instead of right clicking on your drone bay and waiting ten minutes for the prompts to show up.
Another one who's been present and noticed how they every time has warped to a cloaker when they engage. You need binoculars if you are gonna watch this from Cache AND commentate accurately mate.
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Cringeley
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Posted - 2006.06.30 07:38:00 -
[409]
Cmd Woodlouse, can you please rein in your special children? They're making your alliance look absolutely awful.
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Posted - 2006.06.30 07:43:00 -
[410]
Originally by: Fred0
Edited by: Fred0 on 30/06/2006 07:35:58
Originally by: PopeZeus
The drones are out because when they exit the forcefield to engage their drones are available to immediately start attacking. Instead of right clicking on your drone bay and waiting ten minutes for the prompts to show up.
Another one who's been present and noticed how they every time has warped to a cloaker when they engage. You need binoculars if you are gonna watch this from Cache AND commentate accurately mate.
Because the other night the Revelation and Naglfar weren't more than 10km from the POS right?
Some people fly covops. Or you might have noticed my pod about 400km off the POS in the opposite direction of you guys, watching from afar.
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Posted - 2006.06.30 07:48:00 -
[411]
Originally by: Cringeley
Cmd Woodlouse, can you please rein in your special children? They're making your alliance look absolutely awful.
your being a hypocrite to be funny right...?
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Posted - 2006.06.30 07:52:00 -
[412]
Originally by: Fred0
Edited by: Fred0 on 30/06/2006 07:35:58
Another one who's been present and noticed how they every time has warped to a cloaker when they engage. You need binoculars if you are gonna watch this from Cache AND commentate accurately mate.
You think all our accounts are in cache?
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Fred0
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Posted - 2006.06.30 07:54:00 -
[413]
Originally by: KIATolon
You think all our accounts are in cache?
;)
You know what they say about hope
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Mochalatte
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Posted - 2006.06.30 07:55:00 -
[414]
Originally by: KIATolon
Originally by: Fred0
Edited by: Fred0 on 30/06/2006 07:35:58
Another one who's been present and noticed how they every time has warped to a cloaker when they engage. You need binoculars if you are gonna watch this from Cache AND commentate accurately mate.
You think all our accounts are in cache?
;)
no.. but we know you've been pwned to hell and back and are sore from the pwnage. so go fan boi else where buddy and try to support goons even more than you have been mr neutral.. lol.
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Posted - 2006.06.30 08:01:00 -
[415]
Originally by: Tuijabird
Originally by: Cringeley
Cmd Woodlouse, can you please rein in your special children? They're making your alliance look absolutely awful.
your being a hypocrite to be funny right...?
No, I'm saying that you in particular are carrying on like the worst kind of newbie jackass, in a manner that would rapidly have you expelled from goonfleet. If you want to discuss server resources, tactics, or any other aspect of gameplay, then we'll be right here to have a well composed, grammatical discussion with you. But if all you want to do is talk smack against alts and call people names then I would recommend, as I said above, that your superiors put your head in a bucket before you smear any more mud on their reputation.
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Posted - 2006.06.30 08:17:00 -
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Originally by: Happydayz
Speaking of dishonorable: is there any actual evidence that a D2/STV dread pilot got his account suspended because they falsely filed a stuck petition in order to save their ship?
Add 'WildCard' to your buddy list.
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Posted - 2006.06.30 08:27:00 -
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STV confims following situation.
WildCard to FC: Im since ten minutes 36au out from the enemy POS. And still under fire:
FC to WildCard: Can you activate anyting?
WildCard to FC: No I can't activate/deactive modules. Also i cant lock at this range. I trasfer you what i see:
WildCard's View
WildCard to FC: I try to relog. brb
FC to Wildcard: Ok an you get back into the game?
WildCard to FC: No, i see a realy black universe. So last chance "I do a stuck petion, so that i can get back in.
Next day: WildCard you have won a 14 day holyday.
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Fedaykin Naib
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Posted - 2006.06.30 08:31:00 -
[418]
What has happened to WOODY!?!?!?!?!? and Phonix?!?!?!!?!?!
"Long Live the Fighters!"
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Stamm
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Posted - 2006.06.30 08:35:00 -
[419]
Originally by: Cringeley
Originally by: Tuijabird
Originally by: Cringeley
Cmd Woodlouse, can you please rein in your special children? They're making your alliance look absolutely awful.
your being a hypocrite to be funny right...?
No, I'm saying that you in particular are carrying on like the worst kind of newbie jackass, in a manner that would rapidly have you expelled from goonfleet. If you want to discuss server resources, tactics, or any other aspect of gameplay, then we'll be right here to have a well composed, grammatical discussion with you. But if all you want to do is talk smack against alts and call people names then I would recommend, as I said above, that your superiors put your head in a bucket before you smear any more mud on their reputation.
I see the Goonfleet Propaganda machine is in full swing.
Everybody knows this thread is packed with goonalts.
Having fought your fleets in Syndicate I know you drop cans to cause lag. The GMs even had to stop you last time. I've seen the offensive bookmarks you drop outside hostile stations. I know you will use any game mechanic you can to your advantage, dubious or not.
Goonfleet have had some measure of respect from their opponents, and indeed some has been earned. It's rare to see goonsmack in local, it happens, but it's rare. You have achieved a great deal. You're never ones to back down from a fight. But when you start abusing game mechanics you waste all that.
And when your leader, who smacks enough for all of Goonfleet combined, posts racist remarks in ill taste, you're not winning yourself any respect.
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Posted - 2006.06.30 08:36:00 -
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Here,s a new concept, why dont ALL the trolling alts go find somewhere more useful to post thier tactical and situational inconsistances elsewhere, that goes to both sides of the fence, u make ur selves sound pathetic ergo u make ur alliances sound pathetic.
Here are some facts about the recent most engagements, fact a 20 man support fleet of the goons tried to get into xzh last night to bolster numbers, it never left the gate after jumping thru, and that was before the bubbles went up.
Fact, as the dread attack began, this time more prepared for lag ect all went well with sporadic popping of goon ships leaving the bubble of the pos to engage dreads.
Fact, no doubt it will be rinse and repeat tonight because unlike a few that wont be mentioned, the goons are aggressively proactive and will no doubt do as much as possible to undo our actions of last night and have done already.
Fact, the goons have taken very heavy ship losses and contrary to popular belief they arnt all t1 frigs, far from it in fact, but it can also be equally pointed out that thier presence has not been removed so niether side can claim anything at the moment and shouldnt attempt to, its bloody good fighting in there and thats that, so all u *****ing trolls go find somewhere else to post your speculative crap and leave this thread in piece
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Posted - 2006.06.30 09:13:00 -
[421]
Originally by: PopeZeus
Originally by: Fred0
Edited by: Fred0 on 30/06/2006 07:35:58
Originally by: PopeZeus
The drones are out because when they exit the forcefield to engage their drones are available to immediately start attacking. Instead of right clicking on your drone bay and waiting ten minutes for the prompts to show up.
Another one who's been present and noticed how they every time has warped to a cloaker when they engage. You need binoculars if you are gonna watch this from Cache AND commentate accurately mate.
Because the other night the Revelation and Naglfar weren't more than 10km from the POS right?
Some people fly covops. Or you might have noticed my pod about 400km off the POS in the opposite direction of you guys, watching from afar.
Erm...i STILL don't see ANY VALID REASON for having drones deployed yesterday evening when the dreads were at about 100km away.
And still nobody explained to me how light scout drones are able to harm a sieged dread anyway...!!!
Mr. PopeZeus, obviously the master of EvE himself...plz give me ONE reason that is not related with lag creation...i'm still waiting...
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Happydayz
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Posted - 2006.06.30 09:28:00 -
[422]
Originally by: Stamm
Having fought your fleets in Syndicate I know you drop cans to cause lag. The GMs even had to stop you last time. I've seen the offensive bookmarks you drop outside hostile stations. I know you will use any game mechanic you can to your advantage, dubious or not.
Dropping cans as warp-to points is a valid tactic to counter sniping T2 fitted battleships. It is a low skill point / low isk counter.
What do you propose they do instead? Their average pilot is around 4-6 months old, so you can hardly expect goonfleet to have many pilots with T2 large guns trained. Also, any competent enemy FC will not keep his sniping BS fleet stationary long enough for a covops to develop a warp-in, and again covops take a while to train up so it is unreasonable to expect a low skill point corporation to be able to have 20+ covop pilots out at varying ranges from a stargate in order to do warp-ins.
Doing simple math, the area of a sphere with a 200km radius (max combat sniping range) is around 33.5 million km3. You can see why you would need to deploy a good deal of cans to use as warp-to points.
Do you have another way to counter a T2 fitted sniping BS fleet? And no, having interceptors burn towards them for a warpin isn't a viable tactic as good 'pest pilots will also be able to fire precision cruise missiles for anti-inty defense.
The way I see it, goonfleet can either lay down cans to have warp-to points or log off their entire fleet and wait for the enemy to go away. Yet I'm confident that if they did that they would then be getting flamed for being lame and cowardly.
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MasterEYE
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Posted - 2006.06.30 09:31:00 -
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Edited by: MasterEYE on 30/06/2006 09:34:50
can exsploit?
Link
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DeadDuck
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Posted - 2006.06.30 09:35:00 -
[424]
With the aproach of the weekend, I think that Cloud Ring is about to see the most violent combats ever seen in EVE.
All the alliances involved there have one thing in common, they all engage regardless the odds, they all love to fight.
I really hope that the node will be reinforced has much has possible so all pilots in there could have fun.
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Posted - 2006.06.30 09:37:00 -
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Edited by: Pax Uranus on 30/06/2006 09:39:55
One of the more interesting aspects of this entire escapade is if you take a step back and take into account what the victory conditions probably are for either side.
What's it going to take for this to be considered a victory for OHGOD?
What's it going to take for this to be considered a victory for D2?
It sort of makes you think, huh?
What isn't changing is that time keeps moving on. Ticktock.
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Ilmonstre
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Posted - 2006.06.30 09:39:00 -
[426]
Originally by: MasterEYE
Edited by: MasterEYE on 30/06/2006 09:34:50
can exsploit?
Link
hmm thats alot of cans just for warpin points and so close to each other and you cant tell me those are the remains of a previous battle.
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Posted - 2006.06.30 09:51:00 -
[427]
Edited by: Brock McF on 30/06/2006 09:54:43
Originally by: MacDuncan
Mr. PopeZeus, obviously the master of EvE himself...plz give me ONE reason that is not related with lag creation...i'm still waiting...
I would argue this is the MasterEVE
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can exsploit?
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RGR!!!eleven or one its a choice up to you.
D2 4tw
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Nareen Adlen
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Posted - 2006.06.30 11:05:00 -
[428]
Originally by: Ilmonstre
Originally by: MasterEYE
Edited by: MasterEYE on 30/06/2006 09:34:50
can exsploit?
Link
hmm thats alot of cans just for warpin points and so close to each other and you cant tell me those are the remains of a previous battle.
A sphere with a radius of 250km has a 785k km2 surface. If you want a guaranteed warp in spot within warp disruptor range you'd need to drop over 600 cans to cover everything. If CCP would finally fix sensor dampeners nobody would have to use this stupid tactic though.
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fire 59
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Posted - 2006.06.30 11:17:00 -
[429]
Sound's like it's really heating up out there, good stuff, except the lag which suxx no matter who it's too
Iron and G eat babie's , my views are my own, they do not refect my corp or my alliance |
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Posted - 2006.06.30 11:27:00 -
[430]
My two cents on the can stuff... During our contract against BB, we were camping a gate with like 3 ceptors and a bs one late night in BWF. Rats spawn at gate every once in a while, we pop rats, worthless cans apear close to gate. In total maybe 6 spawn cans sitting there. Some BB nub petitions saying we are messing up his "warp in" point w/ his cloaking rifter (which of course is warping in 300+ km from the gate so it's not even a valid argument).
GM shows up, stares at the gate for half an hour, then convo's someone in our gang threatening warnings and such if we don't immediately clean up the cans. Well, suffice it to say, the GM was out of line with his rudeness and aproach to the situation, and we were given an appology a couple days later. Thanks to the Sr. GM staff for addressing that. However, it was noted that the GM's aparently have a policy of warning people for dropping excess cans if they are "causing lag" or so I was told... I was told flat out, cans cause lag and that the GM's don't allow people to drop cans that cause lag.
So exploit? No, technically it's poor game mechanics which have been around for a long time, but I would have to think that if the GM's are getting antsy over 6 cans from NPC spawns at a gate, then the 30ish cans I saw in those images should more than qualify for the "clean it up, stop it, or get warned" treatment. Obviously you have to petition as it is being done as the GM's don't accept anything other than what they can see or their logs show as evidence. |
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Posted - 2006.06.30 11:33:00 -
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No Gate-NPC's in XZH...never were and still not spawned...
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Wardani
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Posted - 2006.06.30 11:34:00 -
[432]
Give em hell goons.
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Bushey
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Posted - 2006.06.30 11:41:00 -
[433]
Oh dear god.. This flame thread is worse then Diablo II's jsp forum. All I see is a bunch of babies crying because they die to "a fleet of T1 frigates with less then 2 mil sp" OH GOD BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES
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IWasMadeForThis
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Posted - 2006.06.30 11:47:00 -
[434]
Originally by: Bushey
Oh dear god.. This flame thread is worse then Diablo II's jsp forum. All I see is a bunch of babies crying because they die to "a fleet of T1 frigates with less then 2 mil sp" OH GOD BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES
omg, if you are that biased you can only be GF alt nr 1000 whining about the whiners in this thread. Wonder what that makes me...
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Deva Blackfire
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Posted - 2006.06.30 11:48:00 -
[435]
Originally by: Bushey
Oh dear god.. This flame thread is worse then Diablo II's jsp forum. All I see is a bunch of babies crying because they die to "a fleet of T1 frigates with less then 2 mil sp" OH GOD BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES
Dear sir, please learn to understand what you read. Thank you in advance.
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Ilmonstre
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Posted - 2006.06.30 12:12:00 -
[436]
Originally by: Nareen Adlen
Originally by: Ilmonstre
Originally by: MasterEYE
Edited by: MasterEYE on 30/06/2006 09:34:50
can exsploit?
Link
hmm thats alot of cans just for warpin points and so close to each other and you cant tell me those are the remains of a previous battle.
A sphere with a radius of 250km has a 785k km2 surface. If you want a guaranteed warp in spot within warp disruptor range you'd need to drop over 600 cans to cover everything. If CCP would finally fix sensor dampeners nobody would have to use this stupid tactic though.
i have seen previous cases like this gotten a GM intervention with less cans around a station then this one and they got ordered to remove all cans by the GM in question. so yes i see this as a non allowed action seing my previous experiances.
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Audrea
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Posted - 2006.06.30 12:37:00 -
[437]
Edited by: Audrea on 30/06/2006 12:38:01
Originally by: Ajaya
Obviously you have to petition as it is being done as the GM's don't accept anything other than what they can see or their logs show as evidence.
yeah, a bunch of ******* idiots
I remember when BoB dreads shot down my ship as well as few others while inside POS bubble.. and they didnt care I named 5 witnesses, even not from BoB who saw it and could testify to it.
"Nothing shows up in our logs, which supports your claims" sounds like a broken tape, after so ******* many petitions
Why even have GMs? if they only watch logs and judge by them, its really not hard to program a log analayzer to work instead of fully paid GM
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Posted - 2006.06.30 12:39:00 -
[438]
So what's the latest update from the front?
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NOObbody
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Posted - 2006.06.30 12:50:00 -
[439]
Originally by: Ur Dirac
So what's the latest update from the front?
Deployment of V-Weapons has begun. Expect no survivors
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Posted - 2006.06.30 12:50:00 -
[440]
Originally by: Tuijabird
Edited by: Tuijabird on 30/06/2006 05:43:19
Keep it up goons. I can post the facts of multiple enemies that lag fighting you. People directly related or leading your corp are telling people what to do to lag. Launch dromes, spam local, invites, mass self destructing pods in same place only after enemies warp in. What do you goons do to lag people that is not so visable as these tactics? i nkow. :) I think you guys have done it all tbh, and said by others before? You use most tactics avaible to you to lag your enemy. Not just your noobie ship tacklers at times. YOU use other things to lag the enemy and Promote it in corp or allaince ops!!! SERIOUSLY tell me i'm wrong so i can post logs and screens. I sick of these tactics. talk back so i can shame you.... sad tactics sad.
Edit - also you know we are supporting the caps that pwned your pos today. You launched drones inside pos to lag NOTHING ELSE and dropped cans at the same time.I don't think EVE is dumb noobies and beleive you have some purpose for doing it.
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Posted - 2006.06.30 12:56:00 -
[441]
Originally by: Tuijabird
Edited by: Tuijabird on 30/06/2006 05:43:19
Edit - also you know we are supporting the caps that pwned your pos today. You launched drones inside pos to lag NOTHING ELSE and dropped cans at the same time.I don't think EVE is dumb noobies and beleive you have some purpose for doing it.
Ill confirm this opinion, and I WAS there. I saw the goons launch the drones inside the POS, for seemingly no reason. Ill tell you this it caused lag and gave them a massive advantage when they....ummm...they....erm...attacked the dre...no thats not it...let me remember this right...when they warped in on the supp....no thats not it...oh yeah I remember...when the sat there and did nothing. They caused lag and used it to great effect when they sat there and more effectively did nothing while lagged.
Tell me Im lying, c'mon tell me when the drones were launched the goons did something to take advantage of any lag that may have been caused, you cant can you, no, because I tell the truth.
Youre an apologist of the worst order, and a game like this is not good for one with such a delicate disposition
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Stamm
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Posted - 2006.06.30 12:59:00 -
[442]
Originally by: Tuijabird
Edited by: Tuijabird on 30/06/2006 05:43:19
Keep it up goons. I can post the facts of multiple enemies that lag fighting you. People directly related or leading your corp are telling people what to do to lag. Launch dromes, spam local, invites, mass self destructing pods in same place only after enemies warp in. What do you goons do to lag people that is not so visable as these tactics? i nkow. :) I think you guys have done it all tbh, and said by others before? You use most tactics avaible to you to lag your enemy. Not just your noobie ship tacklers at times. YOU use other things to lag the enemy and Promote it in corp or allaince ops!!! SERIOUSLY tell me i'm wrong so i can post logs and screens. I sick of these tactics. talk back so i can shame you.... sad tactics sad.
Edit - also you know we are supporting the caps that pwned your pos today. You launched drones inside pos to lag NOTHING ELSE and dropped cans at the same time.I don't think EVE is dumb noobies and beleive you have some purpose for doing it.
Post it. I'm sure there's meutrals reading this thread that have no idea which side to believe. One side saying it's true, and the other denying it won't convince people.
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Xendie
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Posted - 2006.06.30 13:48:00 -
[443]
Originally by: MasterEYE
Edited by: MasterEYE on 30/06/2006 09:34:50
can exsploit?
Link
thats like a text book example of can lagging and is a exploit.
Originally by: F'nog
This would be great, because lag is not at all a problem currently.
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CardboardSword42
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Posted - 2006.06.30 15:08:00 -
[444]
Originally by: Ilmonstre
Originally by: Nareen Adlen
Originally by: Ilmonstre
Originally by: MasterEYE
Edited by: MasterEYE on 30/06/2006 09:34:50
can exsploit?
Link
hmm thats alot of cans just for warpin points and so close to each other and you cant tell me those are the remains of a previous battle.
A sphere with a radius of 250km has a 785k km2 surface. If you want a guaranteed warp in spot within warp disruptor range you'd need to drop over 600 cans to cover everything. If CCP would finally fix sensor dampeners nobody would have to use this stupid tactic though.
i have seen previous cases like this gotten a GM intervention with less cans around a station then this one and they got ordered to remove all cans by the GM in question. so yes i see this as a non allowed action seing my previous experiances.
It looks like a combination of they were overzealous with warp points and death cans, but nothing too extreme. I've been told that GMs have already looked into the matter and agreed they were warp points, but told them to limit them to ten cans.
I'm Ex-Biomass, that makes me cool
But now I'm KOS and it's all about the manlove
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Posted - 2006.06.30 15:26:00 -
[445]
Originally by: Fedaykin Naib
What has happened to WOODY!?!?!?!?!? and Phonix?!?!?!!?!?!
Dunno & WoW in that order
Spoke to Phonix on MSN the other day, he seems pretty busy IRL and gone back to picking flowers
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Posted - 2006.06.30 15:31:00 -
[446]
Edited by: Fedaykin Naib on 30/06/2006 15:31:29
Originally by: Rift Scorn
Originally by: Fedaykin Naib
What has happened to WOODY!?!?!?!?!? and Phonix?!?!?!!?!?!
Dunno & WoW in that order
Spoke to Phonix on MSN the other day, he seems pretty busy IRL and gone back to picking flowers
"Long Live the Fighters!"
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Posted - 2006.06.30 16:37:00 -
[447]
*posting to lag this thread*
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dirty mick
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Posted - 2006.06.30 16:51:00 -
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i just love how the goons are not the ones crying and if anyone has a right to cry it is them based on the time based training method of this game.
go get em goons! we are behind you 100%
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Doragee
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Posted - 2006.06.30 16:58:00 -
[449]
Originally by: dirty mick
go get em goons! we are behind you 100%
Well....every little counts, or?? ;)
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Jomasara
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Posted - 2006.06.30 17:34:00 -
[450]
Originally by: MacDuncan
Erm...i STILL don't see ANY VALID REASON for having drones deployed yesterday evening when the dreads were at about 100km away.
And still nobody explained to me how light scout drones are able to harm a sieged dread anyway...!!!
If you were in a heavy-lag situation, and you might have to approach an enemy on short notice, wouldn't you launch drones immediately, so you wouldn't have to do it once firing starts and things get even more laggy?
DPS is DPS. If everyone's drones can do 20% of the damage of the ship they came from, that just turned a fleet of 100 into a fleet of 120, and the dreads will melt that much faster. Not to mention using the drones against other drones and/or fighters.
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Ur Dirac
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Posted - 2006.06.30 17:47:00 -
[451]
Thanks for the update, I wonder if Germany winning their game will affect things today...
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Peoke
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Posted - 2006.06.30 18:04:00 -
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all i have to say now is Fix was a good opponent at least when they died lost stations and fought back they didnt come on forums and blame lag and drones for thier pos/cap ship losses. all this shows is how desperate d2 is to save face in this war vs goon a bunchof tech 1 pilots and Smash a dead alliance that does nothing ever in this game but use mineing lasers on thier barges.
and i did post with my main
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Cythereon
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Posted - 2006.06.30 18:22:00 -
[453]
Originally by: Peoke
all i have to say now is Fix was a good opponent at least when they died lost stations and fought back they didnt come on forums and blame lag and drones for thier pos/cap ship losses. all this shows is how desperate d2 is to save face in this war vs goon a bunchof tech 1 pilots and Smash a dead alliance that does nothing ever in this game but use mineing lasers on thier barges.
and i did post with my main
Did Fix petition to save their dreads?
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Peoke
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Posted - 2006.06.30 18:25:00 -
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nope. they saw/knew they lost em fair and square. and i wonder so many other fleets engaments and invasions but its d2 whining to all of eve about lag when everone else grew up and lives with it
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MacDuncan
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Posted - 2006.06.30 18:49:00 -
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Peoke...you know by yourself very well that GF is much more than "just a bunch of T1-Frig-Noobs". If this is actually a big surprise to you, than you don't know your allies very well and they should be quiet upset with you...just check all the KB, they show that GF do have indeed a good bunch of ppl flying w. T2 ships/T2 gunnery.
On the other side:
Where is SMASH? I for my part didn't saw any in local 'til now...afraid of loosing capitals??
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Cythereon
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Posted - 2006.06.30 18:55:00 -
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Originally by: MacDuncan
On the other side:
Where is SMASH? I for my part didn't saw any in local 'til now...afraid of loosing capitals??
Yes, because dreadnoughts are very effective against sniping battleships.
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MacDuncan
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Posted - 2006.06.30 18:57:00 -
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Edited by: MacDuncan on 30/06/2006 18:59:41
So they only bring them if there's not any chance of getting involved into a any fight?
Smart + clever, defintitly, but no reason for cheast beating imho...
Edit:
Just noticed: How is SWA involved int this all???
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2006.06.30 19:01:00 -
[458]
Originally by: Peoke
nope. they saw/knew they lost em fair and square. and i wonder so many other fleets engaments and invasions but its d2 whining to all of eve about lag when everone else grew up and lives with it
Would you like to go back and re-read all the incessanct WHINING from YOUR side of CODA about how "we were 200 and only 100 of us worked", Peoke?
I'd be quite if I were you.
At least d2 aren't accusing you of being devs and the like, eh? Cuz that would be REALLY low, no?
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Jancen Sykes
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Posted - 2006.06.30 19:04:00 -
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Damnit my CEO is going to kill me for that.. well here we go.
As long as i know FIX didnt had to fight the Lagswarm who have also got a forum-campaign against them. Goonswarm just have a big mouth. They are brave that they are engange us often enough but they also play dirty.
1. You say STV wrote a petition to save their dreads.. well if you had read carefully you may have noticed that there is a screen of this dread some au away from the pos but skill under fire of the pos so just quit to tell everyone that the owner tried to cheat in that matter. We proved that he doesnt but you guys just ignore it. ( Damn i dont belive that i defend wildcard )
2. The Timezone dingi. You guys are right in the point that we just have to deal with it and thats no reason do complain about it.
3. The lag thingi. Well i really dont think that the most of D2 would complain about it if Goons havent talk big and of their leaque in here. Its a fact that both fleets get the same problems and you are absolutly right with that. But the pos ( the mainweapon ) of the goons dont get affacted by that and this is where the advantage and the dirty game of the goons start. Take the Caldaridread as an example. If he cant activate and deactivate his booster then he will just die or run out of cap and then die. ( 4/6 Dreadlosses here Phoenix btw )
a) Can: Some of us complain about the many cans inside your forcefield. Goons say its because they need to give others ammo and so on.. well that could be a explanation but.. hm well i woundering they got a carrier.. why they damn need that many cans for this?
b) deploying drones: Goons are right with the fact that every single dps is necessarily for them to kill the dreads.
But i still dont get the point. If they launch the drones inside their forcefield they get also lagged.. if they now fly outside they still have to say their drones that they have to attack the dreads.. but that should be also lagged so they also loose time to send them out. And pls dont tell me that the drones fly on their own to the dread.. as long as they dont aggro the dronemothership they wont fly and the dreads still need alot of more time to target then other.
c) the chatspamthingi.. well i cant justice your old behavior from other onlinegames so i just belive you in that matter.. ( until i see that you guys really do it everytime.. but that happened till now )
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Peoke
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Posted - 2006.06.30 19:13:00 -
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Would you like to go back and re-read all the incessanct WHINING from YOUR side of CODA about how "we were 200 and only 100 of us worked", Peoke?
I'd be quite if I were you.
hey isnt coda stand for coalition of dead alliances if smash is dead why do the heads of bob keep coming on the forums and stating facts like this which mean that we cant be dead. im a little confused on this if smash was dead then no matter what there would be no point for u to post.
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LoveKebab
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Posted - 2006.06.30 19:45:00 -
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Sweet-drones ;o
ill try to provide new screens tonight ;x
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2006.06.30 19:57:00 -
[462]
Originally by: Peoke
Would you like to go back and re-read all the incessanct WHINING from YOUR side of CODA about how "we were 200 and only 100 of us worked", Peoke?
I'd be quite if I were you.
hey isnt coda stand for coalition of dead alliances if smash is dead why do the heads of bob keep coming on the forums and stating facts like this which mean that we cant be dead. im a little confused on this if smash was dead then no matter what there would be no point for u to post.
In other words you're saying "I don't wish to make myself look like a fool in that manner, so I'll try and deflect the question".
Wind your knecks in, children.
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Androclese
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Posted - 2006.06.30 20:09:00 -
[463]
Originally by: Xendie
Originally by: MasterEYE
Edited by: MasterEYE on 30/06/2006 09:34:50
can exsploit?
Link
thats like a text book example of can lagging and is a exploit.
While I actually question the reasoning behind the drones deployed in the POS bubble I dont think thats an exploit TBH. It looks more like to me they have been caught in a meat grinder and most of those cans are the remains of the ships they were in.
I have looked in several cans after I have killed them and seen BM's in them though (admitedly not in the last week). So allthough I don't think on a large scale they allways deliberately cause lag they certainly do try to use it to their advantage sometimes.
About 9 months ago I was in a corp that was asked to declare on them when they were a relatively new entity and the CEO of my corp joined the SA forum which he also payed RL money to join and they did say (and I saw copied/pasted clips which could be false admitedely) that they would try to make the server nodes crash. This was more in line with being a pain in the arse to CCP and p1ssing the playerbase off than being an aid to them in PVP etc.
So whatever is said I believe that "lag" has been discussed by them, is still discussed by them and that they will use it as much as possible when they feel they can get away with it for whatever purposes they want to achieve.
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Cythereon
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Posted - 2006.06.30 20:23:00 -
[464]
Edited by: Cythereon on 30/06/2006 20:24:10
Originally by: LoveKebab
Sweet-drones ;o
ill try to provide new screens tonight ;x
I count 17 drones in that screenshot. You can't count fighters, because they work at any distance.
Also, you lag us with shuttles! ZOMG!
Sweet-shuttles
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MacDuncan
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Posted - 2006.06.30 20:38:00 -
[465]
Again....what's the stand of SWA towards this conflict?
Afraid of posting w. your main...got balls?
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Rimini Toranos
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Posted - 2006.06.30 20:46:00 -
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And here it is ... the goons preparing to engage the dreads at 100km with cruisers.
No, they weren't trying to awake the lag monster, honest.
OMGWTFDRONE
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Harliquin's Shadow
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Posted - 2006.06.30 20:54:00 -
[467]
Return of the alts!
Go Goons
People are scared of you and if you don't fragment as your obscene numbers become too much then everyone should be!
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Desiderata Fabian
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Posted - 2006.06.30 21:26:00 -
[468]
Originally by: Harliquin's Shadow
Although I would say, Goonfleet and Goonwaffe are not at the massive numbers they used to be, what is it, 1,400 in one and 800 in the other?!
Since the hard cap is 1300 your memory must be fuzzy, they are as big as ever, nice logo too: http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/5841/goonswarmbee3xw.png
PS: release sovereignty!
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Vice Royy
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Posted - 2006.06.30 21:36:00 -
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Goons were using can/drones tactics before in S-U and GMs were puled into action. Now they do the same thing in different place. Thats their tactics.
fofofo thing? Goons havent found it out. They are too stupid for it tbh. Some time ago one corp outblobed goons and wrote on local "blob" many times and they captured the idea when GMs were puled into action. Goons petitioned it of course - now they use it.
You can ignore this post or write something stupid in response i dont care. Ive posted you simple truth. They will use lag/drones/can thing again and again. Those are goons - they wont fight fair in big battles.
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2006.06.30 22:27:00 -
[470]
Originally by: Rimini Toranos
And here it is ... the goons preparing to engage the dreads at 100km with cruisers.
No, they weren't trying to awake the lag monster, honest.
OMGWTFDRONE
Utterly pathetic.
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DrLogan
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Posted - 2006.06.30 22:40:00 -
[471]
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Rimini Toranos
And here it is ... the goons preparing to engage the dreads at 100km with cruisers.
No, they weren't trying to awake the lag monster, honest.
OMGWTFDRONE
Utterly pathetic.
Your defense, goon?
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2006.06.30 22:42:00 -
[472]
Originally by: DrLogan
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Rimini Toranos
And here it is ... the goons preparing to engage the dreads at 100km with cruisers.
No, they weren't trying to awake the lag monster, honest.
OMGWTFDRONE
Utterly pathetic.
Your defense, goon?
What?
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Nareen Adlen
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Posted - 2006.06.30 22:43:00 -
[473]
What's funny is the D2 dreads have drones out too. Are you going to appeal them too?
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Rimini Toranos
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Posted - 2006.06.30 22:46:00 -
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That's standard with dreads. And 50 drones from the dreads <<< 500 drones from the goons, deployed for no actual reason.
The rumor is that they're flying frigs with cargos full of bookmarks now.
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Murukan
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Posted - 2006.06.30 22:46:00 -
[475]
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: DrLogan
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Rimini Toranos
And here it is ... the goons preparing to engage the dreads at 100km with cruisers.
No, they weren't trying to awake the lag monster, honest.
OMGWTFDRONE
Utterly pathetic.
Your defense, goon?
What?
i think he's asking how the goons are going to defend that pic, not you
And dreads would deploy drones cause if they get a bunch of small ****s warping in on them they can't exactly hit anything in close range. I also doubt D2 has enough dreds in there to create a swarm like goons do in that picture so i would definately say the 2 scenarios are not similar.
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Nareen Adlen
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Posted - 2006.06.30 22:51:00 -
[476]
Originally by: Rimini Toranos
That's standard with dreads. And 50 drones from the dreads <<< 500 drones from the goons, deployed for no actual reason.
The rumor is that they're flying frigs with cargos full of bookmarks now.
Why, can dreads suddenly use drones at 100km?
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Refeirg Atonmi
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Posted - 2006.06.30 22:55:00 -
[477]
Originally by: Vice Royy
Goons were using can/drones tactics before in S-U and GMs were puled into action. Now they do the same thing in different place. Thats their tactics.
fofofo thing? Goons havent found it out. They are too stupid for it tbh. Some time ago one corp outblobed goons and wrote on local "blob" many times and they captured the idea when GMs were puled into action. Goons petitioned it of course - now they use it.
Uh, "fofofo" originated from Ultima Online, you fool.
Maybe if people read the entire thread before commenting we wouldn't have 6 pages of people repeating things over and over again.
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geewiz
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Posted - 2006.06.30 22:56:00 -
[478]
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Rimini Toranos
And here it is ... the goons preparing to engage the dreads at 100km with cruisers.
No, they weren't trying to awake the lag monster, honest.
OMGWTFDRONE
Utterly pathetic.
Agreed, shameful tactics. Also to the other guy saying dreads deploying drones is comparable is complete BS, drones are only defense for a dread to smaller ships wtf benefit you getting from cruisers in that number from that far away other than to lag your opponent out?
Very very sad.
Gee
Gee
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Nicocat
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Posted - 2006.06.30 23:00:00 -
[479]
Well, this kinda sucks. OSS in system, from what I understand. Goons++
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Tuijabird
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Posted - 2006.06.30 23:07:00 -
[480]
Edited by: Tuijabird on 30/06/2006 23:15:16
Edited by: Tuijabird on 30/06/2006 23:12:54
Originally by: Refeirg Atonmi
Uh, "fofofo" originated from Ultima Online, you fool.
Maybe if people read the entire thread before commenting we wouldn't have 6 pages of people repeating things over and over again.
Only thing I see repeated is peoples knowledge of you goons creating lag as a tactic in fleet battles.It's being proven yet you sit here and try to dodge the direct questions the EVE community has asked of you and your proven tactics.WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO SAY FOR YOUR PATHETIC TACTICS? ANSWER US! yet you won't respond because NO more assumptions or tin foil hats. PROOF ....of what you do. pathetic is the best word someone used for it.
EDIT- Quick thing... i know you won't admit it freely or maybe you are men.. D2 is fighting you at YOUR POS. if it was not for your pos.. like all other fights have happen you would be even more slaughtered. Every engagement d2 has wiped the floor with you literaly. Killboards show that plainly. So if it wasn't for your lag tactics and d2 loosing dreads to crayz lag. you would just the laughing stock of EVE tbh. thats how badly you get pwned every time. take those lagged out dread of the first few days and your a joke.So please keep acting like your effective. It's laughable.
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EvilSyKOSkitzo
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Posted - 2006.06.30 23:12:00 -
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Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Rimini Toranos
And here it is ... the goons preparing to engage the dreads at 100km with cruisers.
No, they weren't trying to awake the lag monster, honest.
OMGWTFDRONE
Utterly pathetic.
Theres no ******* excuse for that ****. I don't care who you are..
Thats seriously screwed up..
I seriously doubt those ships have enough Drone Augs to get out that far.
All that is.. is bull****
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SaorAlba
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Posted - 2006.06.30 23:13:00 -
[482]
For dreads to deploy drones is a normal situation. When the drones are out they will engage any attacker without needing a lock first. When you deploy afterwards you have to wait for the lock.
The real problem with the Goons is the lack of class. We do admire there fighting spirit. On the other hand they use tactics who spoil the pleasure for everybody. We have seen lokal fofofo spammage, cargo and drone exploitation and I wouldn't be surprised at all if they are flying around with bookmarks.
Instead of disapproving the behavour of there members Goon lead seems to have no problem with it at all.
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Tuijabird
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Posted - 2006.06.30 23:18:00 -
[483]
Problem with it? Your right they have no problem with it! As they are the ones telling people to do it at times. It's visable thats what is happening too. IF even 3-4 people doing it... oh well. The whole alliance does these things though it seems!
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Deva Blackfire
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Posted - 2006.06.30 23:19:00 -
[484]
Edited by: Deva Blackfire on 30/06/2006 23:22:25
Originally by: Deva Blackfire
Edited by: Deva Blackfire on 30/06/2006 22:59:35
Quote:
Destroyed items:
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon I
Gyrostabilizer I
Basic Gyrostabilizer
Medium Nosferatu I
Medium Nosferatu I
Depleted Uranium M, Qty: 66
Depleted Uranium M, Qty: 66
Depleted Uranium M, Qty: 69
10MN Afterburner I (Cargo)
10MN Afterburner I (Cargo)
Stasis Webifier I (Cargo)
Phased plasma M, Qty: 2000 (Cargo)
Depleted Uranium M, Qty: 817 (Cargo)
Bloodclaw Light Missile, Qty: 560 (Cargo)
Bookmark (Cargo)
Bookmark (Cargo)
Bookmark (Cargo)
Bookmark (Cargo)
Bookmark (Cargo)
Bookmark (Cargo)
Bookmark (Cargo)
Bookmark (Cargo)
Bookmark (Cargo)
Bookmark (Cargo)
Bookmark (Cargo)
Bookmark (Cargo)
Bookmark (Cargo)
Bookmark (Cargo)
Bookmark (Cargo)
Bookmark (Cargo)
Bookmark (Cargo)
Bookmark (Cargo)
Wonder how many ships had similiar cargohold. And how many BMs were left in can when guy popped (from battle at POS).
Just a kind of bump :) That comes from goon stabber :)
And two more piccys:
Pic1
Pic2
In that fight there was virtually NO lag (1-3 sec isnt lag for me...)
So it is easy to see that goons try to lag out everyone at POS so guns can kill em :/
EDIT: removed rude word ;p
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Refeirg Atonmi
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Posted - 2006.06.30 23:43:00 -
[485]
Edited by: Refeirg Atonmi on 30/06/2006 23:45:30
Originally by: Deva Blackfire
And two more piccys:
Pic1
Pic2
You had FOURTY people in your gang in those pics, compared to TWO HUNDRED. OFCOURSE THERE IS LESS LAG!
The drone deployment inside of the POS was already explained, as with the cans.
Also, due to a standings quirk, the POS wasnt even shooting at anyone from the YouWhat alliance during the entire battle, so dont blame it on that either!!
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Darus Xarin
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Posted - 2006.06.30 23:44:00 -
[486]
Originally by: Deva Blackfire
Edited by: Deva Blackfire on 30/06/2006 23:22:25
Originally by: Deva Blackfire
Edited by: Deva Blackfire on 30/06/2006 22:59:35
Quote:
Destroyed items:
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon I
Gyrostabilizer I
Basic Gyrostabilizer
Medium Nosferatu I
Medium Nosferatu I
Depleted Uranium M, Qty: 66
Depleted Uranium M, Qty: 66
Depleted Uranium M, Qty: 69
10MN Afterburner I (Cargo)
10MN Afterburner I (Cargo)
Stasis Webifier I (Cargo)
Phased plasma M, Qty: 2000 (Cargo)
Depleted Uranium M, Qty: 817 (Cargo)
Bloodclaw Light Missile, Qty: 560 (Cargo)
Bookmark (Cargo)
Bookmark (Cargo)
Bookmark (Cargo)
Bookmark (Cargo)
Bookmark (Cargo)
Bookmark (Cargo)
Bookmark (Cargo)
Bookmark (Cargo)
Bookmark (Cargo)
Bookmark (Cargo)
Bookmark (Cargo)
Bookmark (Cargo)
Bookmark (Cargo)
Bookmark (Cargo)
Bookmark (Cargo)
Bookmark (Cargo)
Bookmark (Cargo)
Bookmark (Cargo)
Wonder how many ships had similiar cargohold. And how many BMs were left in can when guy popped (from battle at POS).
Just a kind of bump :) That comes from goon stabber :)
And two more piccys:
Pic1
Pic2
In that fight there was virtually NO lag (1-3 sec isnt lag for me...)
So it is easy to see that goons try to lag out everyone at POS so guns can kill em :/
EDIT: removed rude word ;p
i can claim that as my ship. i left it for a corp member to use because i was going out of town for the weekend. prior to leaving it i was copying bookmarks for the convoy. It was lagging so badly that i stopped and thought that there weren't any in the hold.
you and your lag theories...too quick to assume.
i've never seen so many ppl whine so badly
relax, it's only a game
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Esaam DeVries
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Posted - 2006.06.30 23:57:00 -
[487]
Originally by: Darus Xarin
i can claim that as my ship. i left it for a corp member to use because i was going out of town for the weekend. prior to leaving it i was copying bookmarks for the convoy. It was lagging so badly that i stopped and thought that there weren't any in the hold.
you and your lag theories...too quick to assume.
i've never seen so many ppl whine so badly
relax, it's only a game
Honey, it's not what you think, I can explain everything !
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Death Merchant
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Posted - 2006.07.01 00:05:00 -
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Hmm..Lets see
1.Lots of uneccesary cans ejected around POS? Check
2.Lots of Cruisers spamming tons of drones inside force field? Check
3.Lots of "forgotten" bookmarks in holds of ships? Check
Wow I would hate to see what they could do if they were actually trying to generate lag.
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Dinique
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Posted - 2006.07.01 00:08:00 -
[489]
Stop all the flaming, especially from the alts, please.
Here's a screenshot.
http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/4017/200606302340463vb.png
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There's so many different worlds
So many different suns
And we have just one world
But we live in different ones
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Space Negro
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Posted - 2006.07.01 00:34:00 -
[490]
Edited by: Space Negro on 01/07/2006 00:34:16
This thread is 17 pages of mostly D2 internet mastrbation. There have been posts regarding exploits, there have been posts regarding GM actions (RE: the stuck petitioned dread.) This is one huge flamefest and a mix of circlejerking about "goonies making lag" and goon alt posters taking the flamebait.
When will this giant heaping pile of **** be closed?
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DrLogan
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Posted - 2006.07.01 00:55:00 -
[491]
Originally by: Space Negro
Edited by: Space Negro on 01/07/2006 00:34:16
This thread is 17 pages of mostly D2 internet mastrbation. There have been posts regarding exploits, there have been posts regarding GM actions (RE: the stuck petitioned dread.) This is one huge flamefest and a mix of circlejerking about "goonies making lag" and goon alt posters taking the flamebait.
When will this giant heaping pile of **** be closed?
Don't post with an alt. If something needs to be said on an alt, is shouldn't need to be said, period.
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LoveKebab
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Posted - 2006.07.01 00:56:00 -
[492]
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Rimini Toranos
And here it is ... the goons preparing to engage the dreads at 100km with cruisers.
No, they weren't trying to awake the lag monster, honest.
OMGWTFDRONE
Utterly pathetic.
yess!! im sure its normal for u to launch drones inside the bubble when nearest hostile ship is a dread at 100km ..... good for ya!
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Space Negro
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Posted - 2006.07.01 01:05:00 -
[493]
Originally by: DrLogan
Originally by: Space Negro
Edited by: Space Negro on 01/07/2006 00:34:16
This thread is 17 pages of mostly D2 internet mastrbation. There have been posts regarding exploits, there have been posts regarding GM actions (RE: the stuck petitioned dread.) This is one huge flamefest and a mix of circlejerking about "goonies making lag" and goon alt posters taking the flamebait.
When will this giant heaping pile of **** be closed?
Don't post with an alt. If something needs to be said on an alt, is shouldn't need to be said, period.
That is the most retarded, plug-your-ears-and-hum piece of **** argument I have ever heard. I'm not flaming anyone and I'm not supporting either side, I'm saying this thread is seriously, absolutely, retarded. Mentally disabled. Slow. It needs closing.
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The Speaker
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Posted - 2006.07.01 01:09:00 -
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Wait. So this isn't over yet?
I hate to invoke the Unholy Ones, but hasn't it crossed anyone's minds that if BoB had been after XZH this could pretty much be over by now? I'm not suggesting that the Goonlets wouldn't try to fight off BoB, but there's still quite a gap between BoB and D2 apparently.
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Refeirg Atonmi
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Posted - 2006.07.01 01:17:00 -
[495]
Edited by: Refeirg Atonmi on 01/07/2006 01:22:21
Edited by: Refeirg Atonmi on 01/07/2006 01:21:34
Originally by: Tuijabird[quote=Refeirg Atonmi
Uh, "fofofo" originated from Ultima Online, you fool.
Maybe if people read the entire thread before commenting we wouldn't have 6 pages of people repeating things over and over again.
Only thing I see repeated is peoples knowledge of you goons creating lag as a tactic in fleet battles.It's being proven yet you sit here and try to dodge the direct questions the EVE community has asked of you and your proven tactics.WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO SAY FOR YOUR PATHETIC TACTICS? ANSWER US! yet you won't respond because NO more assumptions or tin foil hats. PROOF ....of what you do. pathetic is the best word someone used for it.
EDIT- Quick thing... i know you won't admit it freely or maybe you are men.. D2 is fighting you at YOUR POS. if it was not for your pos.. like all other fights have happen you would be even more slaughtered. Every engagement d2 has wiped the floor with you literaly. Killboards show that plainly. So if it wasn't for your lag tactics and d2 loosing dreads to crayz lag. you would just the laughing stock of EVE tbh. thats how badly you get pwned every time. take those lagged out dread of the first few days and your a joke.So please keep acting like your effective. It's laughable.
Here you go sir, straight from page 13!
Originally by: Refeirg Atonmi
Let me start by saying that due to a standings problem, the POS was not even shooting at anyone in the YouWhat alliance.
Secondly, Drones were only brought out right after we warped in to the POS, incase we needed to rush. They stayed out for something like 5 minutes, at which point they were brought back in, and stayed so for hours inbetween engagements.
I was sure that you guys would stoop low enough to argue this (goons cause more lag even though there were more D2 in the system, i like that argument too), so i even took a screenshot a while after we scooped the drones back in.
Also, compare local count to gang count to verify this. In the following image, you can also see our can jettison hacks (about 5 cans floating there with ammo).
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http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/2084/dronerebuttle5nv.jpg[/url]
10 of the drones in that picture are actually carrier fighters assigned to players too.
I'd also like to ask how it benefits GoonSwarm to lag the system when we jump in on your dreadnought, and support fleet later on? When we jumped on your support fleet, I couldnt even lock anyone, and almost died after waiting to warp out for about 5 minutes. I can sort of understand how lag helps a defending fleet, but i dont see any advantage in lagging our own offensive fleets out. There were 400 people in local. There was a 150vs200 person fleet battle. There was lag. It was nobodies fault.
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Ur Dirac
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Posted - 2006.07.01 01:26:00 -
[496]
This thread has indeed taken a turn for the low. Someone close it already.
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L0wtax
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Posted - 2006.07.01 01:33:00 -
[497]
Hey guys whats going on in this thread?
Could some of you guys log out of XZ-H4X <XZ-HAX!!!> so others can log in? I heard the german soccer team just got beat by france? |
Khaneee
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Posted - 2006.07.01 01:35:00 -
[498]
Tom mccash just lost his dreadnought
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Zimi Vlasic
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Posted - 2006.07.01 01:47:00 -
[499]
Originally by: The Speaker
Wait. So this isn't over yet?
I hate to invoke the Unholy Ones, but hasn't it crossed anyone's minds that if BoB had been after XZH this could pretty much be over by now? I'm not suggesting that the Goonlets wouldn't try to fight off BoB, but there's still quite a gap between BoB and D2 apparently.
I don't think bob has a magic lag eliminator
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L0wtax
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Posted - 2006.07.01 01:50:00 -
[500]
Edited by: L0wtax on 01/07/2006 01:53:15
Edited by: L0wtax on 01/07/2006 01:51:59
Originally by: Khaneee
Edited by: Khaneee on 01/07/2006 01:42:50
Tom mccash just lost his dreadnought
edit- 2 more down and one more going down
You mean these dreads right here?
D2 doesn't even want this system..nevermind those 17 capital ships and 200+ pilots we called in. This is like the wizard of ozz :D IGNORE THAT MAN BEHIND THE CURTAIN! THERES NOTHING TO SEE THERE!
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Rift Scorn
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Posted - 2006.07.01 01:52:00 -
[501]
Originally by: Zimi Vlasic
Originally by: The Speaker
Wait. So this isn't over yet?
I hate to invoke the Unholy Ones, but hasn't it crossed anyone's minds that if BoB had been after XZH this could pretty much be over by now? I'm not suggesting that the Goonlets wouldn't try to fight off BoB, but there's still quite a gap between BoB and D2 apparently.
I don't think bob has a magic lag eliminator
I don't think BOB has anything to do with this thread. Let's keep it that way
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Haiyooo
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Posted - 2006.07.01 01:58:00 -
[502]
Sure BoB has something to do with this topic, typically it has been seen BOB watches alliance around it war then BOB runs in and kill the war worn inhabitants. Good tactic!
Tx200 Blob ftl
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Khaneee
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Posted - 2006.07.01 02:00:00 -
[503]
4 D2 dreadnoughts down, goon POS is not in reinforced mode. A clear victory for goonswarm no?
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Avulsion
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Posted - 2006.07.01 02:03:00 -
[504]
I've been following this thread since it began, and I have noticed an constant downward trend to the quality of the posts. This thread started out rather nice, informative, and unbiased. It's somehow transformed into 17 pages of accusations, bull****, and chestbeating, and this is unfortunate. I suggest you lock it and start a new thread, summerizing the events that have occurred. If the alts and forum warriors could avoiding destroying the new thread, it might allow the directors of the alliances involved to hold a civil discussion on the events which have occured in the past few days.
If anyone is still reading at this point, I'd like to present a few observations of my own, as a happliy unemployed little bee who has had the privaledge of participating in nearly every battle for xzh.
Lag: lag effects everyone. I have lost numerous ships due to lag in the pos battles, and I have undoubtably gotten a few kills solely because of the lag. I am currently sitting in Stacmon at a medical station, waiting for the medical bay to open so I can upgrade my clone. I have been waiting for ten minutes while listening to the battle over TS. Apparently the lag improved significantly after a few of the dreads exploded.
The drones in the pos have been explained: For the first two pos battles, STV's dreads warped in out of range, loaded the grid, and then warped to the pos to engage at close range. the fleet commander expected a similar tactic for the third attack, and ordered pilots to deploy drones. As soon as we realized they were going to stay at range, we recalled drones. We're sorry if this caused lag, but I fail to see how it killed anyone, considering we hadn't started shooting yet.
The bookmarks in the killmail: You've killed hundreds of goons over the past week, how many carried bookmarks? 1000? 100? 10? or just the one? The goon who owned those bookmarks has already explained the situation, if you missed his post it's on the 16th or 17th page.
FOFOFOFO!!! The fofofo is sacred, and reserved for celebration AFTER the battle. You will not die from lag caused by a fofofo.
There's a few other concerns that have been presented, and most have been answered. I'm sure someone of a higher rank than I will come along and make a better post than I. Right now I'm just tired of all the smack, and would prefer if we could at least try to show a little respect for each other.
My views are not the views of my corp/alliance etc etc, and I'm breaking a long list of rules with this post which I will undoubtably pay for.
Can't we all just try to enjoy the game?
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The Slayer
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Posted - 2006.07.01 02:13:00 -
[505]
Oh also, I have it on good authority that the reason for the drones being out is that the proximity of the dreadnoughts make them nice juicy targets. Whats that? Bu***hit you say?
Take a look for yourselves
Yes in the D2 pic they were out further, but the drones were out in case they warped in close again. Have you tried lauching drones with 400 ships in grid? It takes forever!
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Jin'Roh
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Posted - 2006.07.01 02:23:00 -
[506]
wee
just like in local
worst crap coming from dead smash and era ppl
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Khaneee
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Posted - 2006.07.01 02:23:00 -
[507]
Edited by: Khaneee on 01/07/2006 02:22:58
Isnt the bookmarks in cargo hold argument irrelvant. They should only create lag for the people that open them. While the server has to handle them once when the cargo can is created when the ship pops no more lag should result.
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Corazon Santiago
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Posted - 2006.07.01 02:38:00 -
[508]
This thread is emberassing to D2 + allies on so many levels I can't even begin to fathom why alliance leaders aren't doing anything about it. You guys look like big whiny losers right now.
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Deva Blackfire
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Posted - 2006.07.01 02:41:00 -
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Another stalemate for today :/
Guess sov. over XZH wont be won during weekend. D'oh and i so wanted to mine veldspar :(
It is almost constant fleetbattle with goons throwing everything they have at us. Nice going, good both sides have fun.
And when lag dies and we can move once per 5-10 seconds it is really cool. Ah: thx to unknown BS from D2/allied side that removed caracal shooting at me in last fight :) You saved me ;p
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Bippa
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Posted - 2006.07.01 02:42:00 -
[510]
Originally by: Khaneee
Edited by: Khaneee on 01/07/2006 02:22:58
Isnt the bookmarks in cargo hold argument irrelvant. They should only create lag for the people that open them. While the server has to handle them once when the cargo can is created when the ship pops no more lag should result.
HEY YOU! OUT OF THIS THREAD! THERE IS NO ROOM FOR YOUR LOGIC HERE!
If you aren't trolling GS, you are doing this wrong. They are a bunch of noobs, they cheat, they are bob alts, they are GMs. Those are the only authorized posts allowed.
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Orbital Drift
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Posted - 2006.07.01 02:58:00 -
[511]
Excellent fights tonight. Thanks D2, et.al.
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Amano Uzume
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Posted - 2006.07.01 03:14:00 -
[512]
nice fight @goons
you have balls and you spawn very fast after killing :)
the only thing i hate is the lag !
i moved in dreadnougt, started capital armor repper...but couldnt stop it for 1h.
this exactly is the reason for loosing dreads.
if you warp out, you see a picture like this (which i screenshot half an hour after warping out)
they are shooting at me from 16 AU, nice range :)
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/2091/dread1bearbeitet9ni.jpg
i could post same picture after 30 mins and it looks the same.
sorry, this is the only thing i hate...the fights are nice and i like it very much.
hope you stay these are the best fights since azn.
so long, uzi
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Bippa
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Posted - 2006.07.01 03:30:00 -
[513]
Originally by: Amano Uzume
nice fight @goons
the only thing i hate is the lag !
The lag was ridiculous tonight. Great fight D2, many of us lost crap to lag. We all wish CCP could figure this out.
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L0wtax
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Posted - 2006.07.01 03:30:00 -
[514]
Originally by: Amano Uzume
nice fight @goons
you have balls and you spawn very fast after killing :)
the only thing i hate is the lag !
i moved in dreadnougt, started capital armor repper...but couldnt stop it for 1h.
this exactly is the reason for loosing dreads.
if you warp out, you see a picture like this (which i screenshot half an hour after warping out)
they are shooting at me from 16 AU, nice range :)
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/2091/dread1bearbeitet9ni.jpg
i could post same picture after 30 mins and it looks the same.
sorry, this is the only thing i hate...the fights are nice and i like it very much.
hope you stay these are the best fights since azn.
so long, uzi
Nice Photoshop(R) :)
D2, you guys sure have an excuse for EVERYTHING.
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Annover Haf
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Posted - 2006.07.01 03:51:00 -
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I have enjoyed the fights very much so far. Thank you D2 for deciding XZH wasn't "a system that you didn't care about and didn't want." You guys are willing to engage and so are we, that makes for a lot of fun.
I have to ask though, how many cans have you found bookmarks in? I live on the goonfleet.com forums and our ts server. I have never heard bm's in cargo suggested as a 'tactic.' I have also never heard anyone on our side desire or espouse methods that create more lag.
What I have seen is a lot of organizing on the goon side to distribute system and travel bookmarks to our newbies. As we do not control the station in XZH these bookmarks have to be copied into your cargo hold then jettisoned for someone else to pick up. I've used the slow times between battles to do just such. Don't be suprised if a few goon cans contain bookmarks. Really I think the focus of this problem should not be the bookmarks in cans, it should be the necessity of bookmarks. Please CCP remove the necessity of bookmarks from the game. Making/Copying/Aquiring the the bookmarks necessary to survive in 0.0 is a pain, takes a lot of fun out of the game, and apparently is the reason D2 hasn't stomped us goons.
D2 you are not the only ones affected by lag. I jumped into xzh from 9-4 with a 70 man goon convoy during the height of todays fighting. We knew the gate was heavily camped on the other side. I spent 20 minutes looking at the gate in 9-4 with the words "Jumping" on my screen. In frustration I logged off and back on, finding myself in a medical bay in empire. My client never made it into XZH. I spent the next hour only able to listen to the epic battle. Lag hurts both ways.
I have much respect for the D2 posters who have made well thought out and constructive posts here, have a positive attitude, and have not smacked local. Thank you.
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Cefte
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Posted - 2006.07.01 04:12:00 -
[516]
Edited by: Cefte on 01/07/2006 04:13:22
This is an announcement for anyone else who might be fighting D2 now, or in the future.
Lunchtime yesterday, an observant goon warped to one of our POS in XZH and found a D2 pod belonging to Kalok inside the POS bubble, approaching an empty goon freighter, with the can from his Bestower also inside the POS bubble. A second can, belonging to a Steelvipers player, Quarantine, was at the inside edge of the POS bubble. When he was noticed, he warped off.
It would seem that D2 is using warpins fifteen kilometers behind the POS bubble, and then bugging the warp so that the pod ends up inside a hostile POS bubble's force field. They can then enter empty ships inside the bubble and have the POS destroy them.
This has been petitioned, and is being dealt with, but only by the sharp observation of a goon did we know what was going on. Take this as a warning, of an exploit, and an alliance that will use said exploit.
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AJM NINJA
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Posted - 2006.07.01 04:36:00 -
[517]
Who¦s whining now?
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Franky B
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Posted - 2006.07.01 04:36:00 -
[518]
The drama is electrifying.
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Jurushy
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Posted - 2006.07.01 04:39:00 -
[519]
Originally by: Cefte
Edited by: Cefte on 01/07/2006 04:13:22
This is an announcement for anyone else who might be fighting D2 now, or in the future.
Lunchtime yesterday, an observant goon warped to one of our POS in XZH and found a D2 pod belonging to Kalok inside the POS bubble, approaching an empty goon freighter, with the can from his Bestower also inside the POS bubble. A second can, belonging to a Steelvipers player, Quarantine, was at the inside edge of the POS bubble. When he was noticed, he warped off.
It would seem that D2 is using warpins fifteen kilometers behind the POS bubble, and then bugging the warp so that the pod ends up inside a hostile POS bubble's force field. They can then enter empty ships inside the bubble and have the POS destroy them.
This has been petitioned, and is being dealt with, but only by the sharp observation of a goon did we know what was going on. Take this as a warning, of an exploit, and an alliance that will use said exploit.
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according to what i here u guys foget to set a password so it was possible to steal it but we couldnt manage this lucky for you
and the only one who exploit is your ******* laggcreators
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Berrik Radhok
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Posted - 2006.07.01 05:13:00 -
[520]
Edited by: Berrik Radhok on 01/07/2006 05:13:18
Originally by: Jurushy
Originally by: Cefte
Edited by: Cefte on 01/07/2006 04:13:22
This is an announcement for anyone else who might be fighting D2 now, or in the future.
Lunchtime yesterday, an observant goon warped to one of our POS in XZH and found a D2 pod belonging to Kalok inside the POS bubble, approaching an empty goon freighter, with the can from his Bestower also inside the POS bubble. A second can, belonging to a Steelvipers player, Quarantine, was at the inside edge of the POS bubble. When he was noticed, he warped off.
It would seem that D2 is using warpins fifteen kilometers behind the POS bubble, and then bugging the warp so that the pod ends up inside a hostile POS bubble's force field. They can then enter empty ships inside the bubble and have the POS destroy them.
This has been petitioned, and is being dealt with, but only by the sharp observation of a goon did we know what was going on. Take this as a warning, of an exploit, and an alliance that will use said exploit.
Screenshot 1
Screenshot 2
according to what i here u guys foget to set a password so it was possible to steal it but we couldnt manage this lucky for you
and the only one who exploit is your ******* laggcreators
you're part of a major alliance and don't know that not setting a password keeps EVERYONE out except those with standings?
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Nate D
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Posted - 2006.07.01 06:50:00 -
[521]
Good for D2... looks like it's Tit for Tat eh?
-Nate
P.S. To mine's actually work in EVE?
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Kinsy
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Posted - 2006.07.01 06:58:00 -
[522]
Edited by: Kinsy on 01/07/2006 06:58:43
My prediction is...
SOMETHING IS GOING TO EXPLODDEEE!!!11111
MLM shut up or go to XZH and nick the station
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Happydayz
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Posted - 2006.07.01 07:16:00 -
[523]
Originally by: Avulsion
The drones in the pos have been explained: For the first two pos battles, STV's dreads warped in out of range, loaded the grid, and then warped to the pos to engage at close range. the fleet commander expected a similar tactic for the third attack, and ordered pilots to deploy drones. As soon as we realized they were going to stay at range, we recalled drones. We're sorry if this caused lag, but I fail to see how it killed anyone, considering we hadn't started shooting yet.
The bookmarks in the killmail: You've killed hundreds of goons over the past week, how many carried bookmarks? 1000? 100? 10? or just the one? The goon who owned those bookmarks has already explained the situation, if you missed his post it's on the 16th or 17th page.
FOFOFOFO!!! The fofofo is sacred, and reserved for celebration AFTER the battle. You will not die from lag caused by a fofofo.
So this begs 3 questions to D2 then
1) During the first two engagements, did the D2 dread fleet behave as avulsion described? That is warp in at distance, and then warp to the POS at range in order to engage?
2) How many GF ships were destroyed with many bookmarks in their cargohold? That one, or enough so that it could be considered an actual strategy employed?
3) When does the fofofo'ing occur in local? Before, during, or after battle?
Those are the 3 big complaints that D2 has against the goons right now, at least from what I read in this thread.
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Jurushy
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Posted - 2006.07.01 07:58:00 -
[524]
Originally by: Happydayz
Originally by: Avulsion
The drones in the pos have been explained: For the first two pos battles, STV's dreads warped in out of range, loaded the grid, and then warped to the pos to engage at close range. the fleet commander expected a similar tactic for the third attack, and ordered pilots to deploy drones. As soon as we realized they were going to stay at range, we recalled drones. We're sorry if this caused lag, but I fail to see how it killed anyone, considering we hadn't started shooting yet.
The bookmarks in the killmail: You've killed hundreds of goons over the past week, how many carried bookmarks? 1000? 100? 10? or just the one? The goon who owned those bookmarks has already explained the situation, if you missed his post it's on the 16th or 17th page.
FOFOFOFO!!! The fofofo is sacred, and reserved for celebration AFTER the battle. You will not die from lag caused by a fofofo.
So this begs 3 questions to D2 then
1) During the first two engagements, did the D2 dread fleet behave as avulsion described? That is warp in at distance, and then warp to the POS at range in order to engage?
2) How many GF ships were destroyed with many bookmarks in their cargohold? That one, or enough so that it could be considered an actual strategy employed?
3) When does the fofofo'ing occur in local? Before, during, or after battle?
Those are the 3 big complaints that D2 has against the goons right now, at least from what I read in this thread.
u forget drone and cargo launch inside there pos
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Prudence Goodwife
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Posted - 2006.07.01 08:20:00 -
[525]
To be quite honest, I am rather saddened by this thread. It has been said that bonds of honor, or at least mutual respect are formed in PvP, while the EVE forums are simply another way of spewing vitriol and making enemies. The recent engagements in XZH, and the recent despicable chestbeating on these forums have proven that statement to be quite true. I have flown with GOON several times since they made their play for XZH. I have seen tactics on both sides that can be deemed both honorable and dishonorable. I have seen both sides of this battle win decisive victories, and take absolute beatings at the hands of their enemies. My assessment of the situation in XZH is this: At present, there is no clear winner, and there will not be for quite some time. Each victory is met with defeat. Cloud Ring is a bloody quagmire where a respected alliance fights against a group of promising upstarts. During Europe's prime time, I see GOON safespotted or at their POS. However, I also see GOON gangs willingly attack superior D2 forces for the furthering of GOON goals. During GOON primetime, I see few D2 logged in, but those that are on do their utmost to harass GOON progress in XZH. In short, both sides have fought with skill and honor, despite the chestbeating and muckraking in this thread. D2 have played to their strengths with their large capital fleet and many T2 ships. GOON have played to their strenths with sheer numbers. D2 holds a decided advantage in terms of SP and capitals, but from what I see of the goonies, that advantage is checkmated by their numbers and sheer determination. Whatever the outcome of the battle for XZH is, I hope that both sides will realize that it is a meeting between worthy opponants on the field of battle, and that each side gives the respect owed to the other. Whomever comes out of this with sovreignty in XZH and ownership of the conquerable station, I would rather see a million gf's in XZH local than a single 'lol pwnt' post in this thread. D2 are showing what a well established alliance (in terms of SP, logistics, and political connections) is capable of, while the goonies are showing what a massive swarm of newbies with leadership and a single purpose are capable of. While it is futile, I also ask that both sides back off on the endless stream of alt powered smacktalking (Yes, I'm well aware of the irony of making such an appeal on an alt). It does nothing but make whichever side you support seem infantile, and only detracts from the import of the honorable battle both sides give in search of sovreignty in cloud ring. I wish both sides the best of luck, and hope that each combatant realizes that the other is worthy of their respect. |
Avulsion
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Posted - 2006.07.01 08:31:00 -
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Originally by: Jurushy
Originally by: Happydayz
Originally by: Avulsion
The drones in the pos have been explained: For the first two pos battles, STV's dreads warped in out of range, loaded the grid, and then warped to the pos to engage at close range. the fleet commander expected a similar tactic for the third attack, and ordered pilots to deploy drones. As soon as we realized they were going to stay at range, we recalled drones. We're sorry if this caused lag, but I fail to see how it killed anyone, considering we hadn't started shooting yet.
The bookmarks in the killmail: You've killed hundreds of goons over the past week, how many carried bookmarks? 1000? 100? 10? or just the one? The goon who owned those bookmarks has already explained the situation, if you missed his post it's on the 16th or 17th page.
FOFOFOFO!!! The fofofo is sacred, and reserved for celebration AFTER the battle. You will not die from lag caused by a fofofo.
So this begs 3 questions to D2 then
1) During the first two engagements, did the D2 dread fleet behave as avulsion described? That is warp in at distance, and then warp to the POS at range in order to engage?
2) How many GF ships were destroyed with many bookmarks in their cargohold? That one, or enough so that it could be considered an actual strategy employed?
3) When does the fofofo'ing occur in local? Before, during, or after battle?
Those are the 3 big complaints that D2 has against the goons right now, at least from what I read in this thread.
u forget drone and cargo launch inside there pos
I am begining to think there is something wrong with the way your brain works, Jurushy. I will quote the explanation for the drones yet again, since you seem to have difficulty reading it even though you just quoted it yourself
Originally by: Avulsion
The drones in the pos have been explained: For the first two pos battles, STV's dreads warped in out of range, loaded the grid, and then warped to the pos to engage at close range. the fleet commander expected a similar tactic for the third attack, and ordered pilots to deploy drones. As soon as we realized they were going to stay at range, we recalled drones. We're sorry if this caused lag, but I fail to see how it killed anyone, considering we hadn't started shooting yet.
As for the cargo containers within the pos, that's where we keep our extra ammo, since we can't dock and leave stuff in hangers or trade via the station's services until our primetime. If you'd simply be kind enough to grant us docking rights, we could store most of our junk away in corp hangers.
FAKE EDIT: yes, I know we can install corporate hangers at poses, but those get locked when the pos goes into reinforced mode, and it would be nice to have all of our vital supplies available at all times.
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Sylvia McGregor
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Posted - 2006.07.01 09:00:00 -
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Just how did you brought this extra ammo with you as this are all Launch Containers. ( Not deployable Giant ones)
So your explantion isnt goot enough to hold teh line we need a new one Mr Gooni. And next time think a little more.
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Avulsion
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Posted - 2006.07.01 09:20:00 -
[528]
Edited by: Avulsion on 01/07/2006 09:24:37
Originally by: Sylvia McGregor
Just how did you brought this extra ammo with you as this are all Launch Containers. ( Not deployable Giant ones)
So your explantion isnt goot enough to hold teh line we need a new one Mr Gooni. And next time think a little more.
I bought a caracal in s-u, fitted it, filled it with 4000 heavy missiles, and other miscelleneous modules and fittings which would be needed by myself and others in the warzone, then flew the 27 odd jumps to xzh. When I got there, I realized that there was no possible way for me to expend all of my missiles in a single battle, and that if I died (which happens quite frequently) all of the modules I bought and hauled up would be wasted. So I dropped a can in the pos and labeled it something like "Avulsion's spare parts, don't steal unless you really need to." I went into combat with about 1500 heavy missiles in my hold, more than enough for an hour or two of constant fighting. Predictably, I died, and someone else used my equiptment to carry on the fight.
I was not the only goon to do this, but we had less than a dozen cans floating around inside any one pos at any time, since many goons shared cans, dropped things in the station while we had control, or placed items in haulers. I did not bring any secure cans myself, since they are nearly impossible to buy in syndicate for some reason. Later on, when I brought another ship down from Oursulaert, I filled it with secure cans, which were in turn filled with ammo and hidden away in a few safespots, far from any potential battlezones.
Ultimatly, I created almost no lag by dropping that can full of ammo inside the pos, since the exact same ammo and fittings would have been dropped into a can had they been in my cargohold when my poor little caracal got called primary. I probably saved the server from having to calculate the random destruction of my cargo when I exploded.
Any other questions? I seem to be suffering from a bit of insomnia and poor judgement.
EDIT: I just reread your post and realized I was an idiot, you were asking how I managed to fit all the extra ammo in a Caracal. The answer is simple, a Caracal has 450m3 of cargo space, and heavy missiles only take up 0.06m3. A Caracal can hold 7500 missiles, easily. Mine was just half full of warp disruptors and shield transporters and other junk.
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Astarte Nosferatu
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Posted - 2006.07.01 09:48:00 -
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I think a lot of the OHGOD members should go back playing CS, as exploits are rather common there. The EvE community doesn't accept blatent exploiting of the game, and rest assure, you will not win the fight against D2, even with creating lag. If you have ever fought these crazy Germans and their friends, you must realise they will find a legal way to destroy you, they'll keep on fighting long after the majority of OHGOD has been banned for the use of exploits.
Good luck D2 and YouWhat, IRON is always on your side .
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Y Ashanti
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Posted - 2006.07.01 09:49:00 -
[530]
Edited by: Y Ashanti on 01/07/2006 09:49:02
Originally by: Cefte
Edited by: Cefte on 01/07/2006 04:13:22
This is an announcement for anyone else who might be fighting D2 now, or in the future.
Lunchtime yesterday, an observant goon warped to one of our POS in XZH and found a D2 pod belonging to Kalok inside the POS bubble, approaching an empty goon freighter, with the can from his Bestower also inside the POS bubble. A second can, belonging to a Steelvipers player, Quarantine, was at the inside edge of the POS bubble. When he was noticed, he warped off.
It would seem that D2 is using warpins fifteen kilometers behind the POS bubble, and then bugging the warp so that the pod ends up inside a hostile POS bubble's force field. They can then enter empty ships inside the bubble and have the POS destroy them.
This has been petitioned, and is being dealt with, but only by the sharp observation of a goon did we know what was going on. Take this as a warning, of an exploit, and an alliance that will use said exploit.
Screenshot 1
Screenshot 2
If they can board ships inside the force field, the only thing they are exploiting is the stupidity of the POS manager in not setting password (or your low security, if they got hold of the password).
It has been impossible to board ships in a force field you can't enter for quite a few patches.
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Avulsion
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Posted - 2006.07.01 09:57:00 -
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Is it really that difficult to believe that the lag may have been caused by the 400 people shooting at each other on the same grid?
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Chrony
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Posted - 2006.07.01 09:58:00 -
[532]
*cough* I have just 1 single question for GF: Why excatly do you have to launch drones INSIDE your POS forcefield (except to create lag) since you cant lock anything from there anyway?
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Y Ashanti
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Posted - 2006.07.01 09:59:00 -
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Edited by: Y Ashanti on 01/07/2006 09:59:37
Obviously, the lag would be bad enough, if it was just 400 people shooting each other.... without one side increasing it even more intentionally. But just shows your fear of being unable to win a fair fight I guess.
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Avulsion
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Posted - 2006.07.01 10:46:00 -
[534]
I'm not a fleet commander, but if I were to venture a guess based on my observations, then this would have to be it:
Drones do cause a brief spike of lag when deployed, and a small amount of constant lag so long as they remain deployed. If the dreads had warped into close range, and 100 goons charged out and deployed drones at the exact same moment, the massive lag spike would have been even worse, and it would have taken several minutes to target and activate modules etc. By deploying drones early, the spike passed while the opposing forces were still separated. The models for the drones loaded for everyone one present before the fight really started.
Unfortunatly, it didn't matter. Once it became obvious that the dreads were going to keep their distance, the FC ordered drones to be recalled, and we warped out to engage, deployed drones when we were in range, and got the lag spike anyway.
Goons lag too. We just don't complain as much becuase we're used to lag and death. Online games have lag, online games with kickass 400 person battles have even more lag. We do not try to add to the lag, we simply try to survive it as best we can. If we could magic the lag away, we would.
At the first pos battle in xzh, I managed to launch two missile volleys in 10 minues of fighting, and then I got blown up, in slow motion, while mashing my bookmarks furiously. I finally got disconnected, and came back in a pod, in a safespot. The second battle went much better, I managed to switch targets and activate modules with less than a minute of delay, and get on a few dreadmails.
The third battle I was in, the infamous drone blob screen shot which has been the source of so much misplaced anger, I died to lag. When we attacked the D2 support fleet, I launched my drones and pretty much lost control of my ship. I managed to fire on the primary target a few times, and then I was forced to watch as a D2 Thorax tackled and killed my Caracal, and my ECM that would have let me warp out failed to activate. I spent another ten minutes in my burning caracal, taking screenshots and drifting away from the frozen battle while my modules slowly blinked and disappeared from my screen. According to the killboard, my drones wandered off and helped kill some people while this was going on, ironically enough I finally got bored, killed the client, and logged back on to watch the rest of the battle before podjumping out to buy yet another Caracal. The last Caracal didn't even finish loading at the gate before I found myself in my pod, once again. When I podjumped back to placid, 20+ jumps away, it took me 10 minutes to open up the medbay and upgrade my clone.
Fleet battles cause lag, that is one of the limitations of online gaming. I know it is frustrating to watch your lagged out dreadnought slowly pecked to death by a hundred ships, but it's just as bad for us. Imagine you're a fleet commander, sending your pilots against an enemy force twice their size and better armed, and knowing that half of them won't be able to target, let alone fire. Try breaking the tank on a dreadnought while 75% of your pilots are yelling over teamspeak that they can't even turn on their guns and nos.
tl;dr version: Goons hate lag just as much as you do, we probably hate it more than you do. The only thing we hate more than lag are the misguided individuals who claim that we are trying to cause even more lag. It offends us.
I was just going to make one post, and now it's almost 7 am and I need to catch a flight tommorrow(today). Goodnight Eve, I hope you can sort out your issues.
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Y Ashanti
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Posted - 2006.07.01 11:00:00 -
[535]
Originally by: Avulsion
Drones do cause a brief spike of lag when deployed, and a small amount of constant lag so long as they remain deployed.
Drones also cause an insane amount of lag for anyone new entering the grid, such as another fleet warping in.
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Ellen Smith
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Posted - 2006.07.01 11:08:00 -
[536]
Originally by: Y Ashanti
Originally by: Avulsion
Drones do cause a brief spike of lag when deployed, and a small amount of constant lag so long as they remain deployed.
Drones also cause an insane amount of lag for anyone new entering the grid, such as another fleet warping in.
I guess you missed where he said earlier that the drones were deployed AFTER the dreads had warped in- expecting they would behave as they did in the 2 previous engagements- warp in to load the grid, then warp next to the POS for close range bombardment, so I don't know where you're going with that point.
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Logan Xerxes
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Posted - 2006.07.01 11:14:00 -
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Christopher Multsanti
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Posted - 2006.07.01 11:47:00 -
[538]
After England beat Germany in the World Cup final we will see how long the goonies last.
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MacDuncan
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Posted - 2006.07.01 11:54:00 -
[539]
Good morning all together, it's me (again)...
I just want to inform those guys dropping ammo-cans/equip @POS that their helpfull gestures for themselfs/corpmates are completly useless unless you use a secure can!
The 'normal ones' will popp after app. 2h...just in case nobody told you already...
And i honestly like t thank all those kind responses i recieved ingame (even through Alts ) ....that gave me back a bit more confidence that at least some inside GF like to play the same EvE that i enjoyed the last 2 years...
Yesterday evening/night the lag was very hefty, again...there was NO fight w/o minimum module lag for about 30s to 1min...per module...one after another...and only 1 time a total freeze w. a nice following msg. "connection lost...". The Relog was possible only after waiting for about 10mins...much better than the day before (3 connloss/15mins out of game, still no login)...
Interestingly enough, my drones behaved very well during the engagments:
Deploying them after being attacked worked. One by one they were purged into space, they even engaged some hostiles and returned back to bay, just as ordered...i only lost 5 scouts while the connloss...
That's the reason why i'm still, even some possible explanations were given, against the drone deployment BEFORE engagment. No argument given 'til now holds water against the most logical explanation - LAG Creation...(Ockham's Razor rules! )
And i saw SMASH in the local, granted...1 Pest dieing, 1 Vaga straying around and some fighter drones from 1 carrier...well, no further comment...
@Cefte:
That is deffo not exploiting, sry for you. IF the forcefield PW is set correctly, they would be bumped outside w/o any chance to board any ship.
Conclusion after realizing no bump? Well, i guess you can figure it out by yourself..
@The Slayer:
So...you really like to argue about 9 dreads deploying drones against a 100+ hostile fleet?? You can't be serious...
@Christopher:
Dream on...before that, the north pole will melt...
btw.:
Congratz for the placement of the POS within its' grid...if it was intended, it was really a nearly genius work!
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Panzer Klien
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Posted - 2006.07.01 12:12:00 -
[540]
AKTIVATE SCHILD BOOSTERS
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Astarte Nosferatu
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Posted - 2006.07.01 12:36:00 -
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Originally by: Y Ashanti
But just shows your fear of being unable to win a fair fight I guess.
Fair fight? Hundreds of n00bs using exploits to kill a powerhouse? GoonFleet/GoonWaffe and their allies are no match for D2 and allies in a 'fair fight'. You do however beat them nicely when using can/drone lag exploits.
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Cefte
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Posted - 2006.07.01 12:44:00 -
[542]
Originally by: Astarte Nosferatu
Originally by: Y Ashanti
But just shows your fear of being unable to win a fair fight I guess.
Fair fight? Hundreds of n00bs using exploits to kill a powerhouse? GoonFleet/GoonWaffe and their allies are no match for D2 and allies in a 'fair fight'. You do however beat them nicely when using can/drone lag exploits.
I must say, I am both impressed and envious at the loyalty shown by D2's allies. After the CEO of the client corp that they are defending is banned from the game for an exploit, and one of their own players is demonstrated by screenshot to have done so again, still they beat the propaganda drum. Truly brilliant. Unless you want to claim that you are neutral in this conflict?
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Shirei
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Posted - 2006.07.01 12:47:00 -
[543]
****-stirring 4tw, eh?
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Jurushy
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Posted - 2006.07.01 12:48:00 -
[544]
Originally by: Cefte
Originally by: Astarte Nosferatu
Originally by: Y Ashanti
But just shows your fear of being unable to win a fair fight I guess.
Fair fight? Hundreds of n00bs using exploits to kill a powerhouse? GoonFleet/GoonWaffe and their allies are no match for D2 and allies in a 'fair fight'. You do however beat them nicely when using can/drone lag exploits.
I must say, I am both impressed and envious at the loyalty shown by D2's allies. After the CEO of the client corp that they are defending is banned from the game for an exploit, and one of their own players is demonstrated by screenshot to have done so again, still they beat the propaganda drum. Truly brilliant. Unless you want to claim that you are neutral in this conflict?
STFU
our CEO was banned becouse one of u ******* CEO petitioned him
BUT HE DOESNT DO ANYTHING WRONG and the GM unlikle belive your petition
the only one who allways EXPLOID are the member of GOONLAG
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Deja Thoris
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Posted - 2006.07.01 12:53:00 -
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I'm neutral on this but surely they entered the POS through entering the PW and not through a magic exploit?
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Deva Blackfire
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Posted - 2006.07.01 13:06:00 -
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FFS GOONS
Another killmail this time with 50BMs - so guy must hold abt 100 in cargohold. Dont tell me he was also copying them or whatever. Stop this bull**** please.
Name was Ladyluck, rifter full of BMs.
Quote:
Cargo
Bookmark 47
Thorn Rocket 180
Standard Missile Launcher II 1
Bloodclaw Precision Light Missile 38
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PanzerGrenadier
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Posted - 2006.07.01 13:07:00 -
[547]
Originally by: Cefte
Originally by: Astarte Nosferatu
Originally by: Y Ashanti
But just shows your fear of being unable to win a fair fight I guess.
Fair fight? Hundreds of n00bs using exploits to kill a powerhouse? GoonFleet/GoonWaffe and their allies are no match for D2 and allies in a 'fair fight'. You do however beat them nicely when using can/drone lag exploits.
I must say, I am both impressed and envious at the loyalty shown by D2's allies. After the CEO of the client corp that they are defending is banned from the game for an exploit, and one of their own players is demonstrated by screenshot to have done so again, still they beat the propaganda drum. Truly brilliant. Unless you want to claim that you are neutral in this conflict?
So, what purpose does launching drones in the POS bubble serve again?
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2006.07.01 13:09:00 -
[548]
Originally by: Cefte
Originally by: Astarte Nosferatu
Originally by: Y Ashanti
But just shows your fear of being unable to win a fair fight I guess.
Fair fight? Hundreds of n00bs using exploits to kill a powerhouse? GoonFleet/GoonWaffe and their allies are no match for D2 and allies in a 'fair fight'. You do however beat them nicely when using can/drone lag exploits.
I must say, I am both impressed and envious at the loyalty shown by D2's allies. After the CEO of the client corp that they are defending is banned from the game for an exploit, and one of their own players is demonstrated by screenshot to have done so again, still they beat the propaganda drum. Truly brilliant. Unless you want to claim that you are neutral in this conflict?
I'm hardly an ally of d2, fyi.
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Happydayz
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Posted - 2006.07.01 13:14:00 -
[549]
Originally by: Deva Blackfire
FFS GOONS
Another killmail this time with 50BMs - so guy must hold abt 100 in cargohold. Dont tell me he was also copying them or whatever. Stop this bull**** please.
Name was Ladyluck, rifter full of BMs.
Quote:
Cargo
Bookmark 47
Thorn Rocket 180
Standard Missile Launcher II 1
Bloodclaw Precision Light Missile 38
I'm not quite sure what the argument here is. Are you saying that the goons are flying ships into battle loaded with bookmarks in order to lag people out? If I understand the game mechanics correctly it won't really matter if the BM's are in a ship during a battle, it will only really cause lag if the ship gets blown up.
Looking at the map there were literally hundreds of kills every day for the past few days, I'd wager most of them goonfleet. Assuming that they are trying to intentionally lag people out with bookmarks you would think that you would have more then 2 killmails with bookmarks in them.
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Kyria Timeyu
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Posted - 2006.07.01 13:20:00 -
[550]
Also, an important part of any assault on a new region is bookmark distribution logistics. It makes sense that people would carry bookmarks in their cargo hold that they were planning to distribute to others.
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Jurushy
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Posted - 2006.07.01 13:20:00 -
[551]
Edited by: Jurushy on 01/07/2006 13:22:35
Edited by: Jurushy on 01/07/2006 13:21:04
Originally by: Happydayz
Originally by: Deva Blackfire
FFS GOONS
Another killmail this time with 50BMs - so guy must hold abt 100 in cargohold. Dont tell me he was also copying them or whatever. Stop this bull**** please.
Name was Ladyluck, rifter full of BMs.
Quote:
Cargo
Bookmark 47
Thorn Rocket 180
Standard Missile Launcher II 1
Bloodclaw Precision Light Missile 38
I'm not quite sure what the argument here is. Are you saying that the goons are flying ships into battle loaded with bookmarks in order to lag people out? If I understand the game mechanics correctly it won't really matter if the BM's are in a ship during a battle, it will only really cause lag if the ship gets blown up.
Looking at the map there were literally hundreds of kills every day for the past few days, I'd wager most of them goonfleet. Assuming that they are trying to intentionally lag people out with bookmarks you would think that you would have more then 2 killmails with bookmarks in them.
they dont need to blow up by enemys they selfdestruct 15-30 of ther ships whit BM¦s and we have a nice lage to kill dreads
we cant really check who of the dozends of contis was killed buy our force and also we cant chack the contys becouse they are at the enemy pos
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Rexthor Hammerfists
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Posted - 2006.07.01 13:22:00 -
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its getting silly, YouKnow?
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Esaam DeVries
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Posted - 2006.07.01 13:24:00 -
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Originally by: Rexthor Hammerfists
its getting silly, YouKnow?
Yeah but we are almost at page 20, we must keep this pace
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Heptameron
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Posted - 2006.07.01 13:33:00 -
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Edited by: Heptameron on 01/07/2006 13:34:00
Originally by: Kyria Timeyu
Also, an important part of any assault on a new region is bookmark distribution logistics. It makes sense that people would carry bookmarks in their cargo hold that they were planning to distribute to others.
uhuh yea right... if i did that, I would expected to get shot by my own alliance. This alone shows that your a goonnoob... no seasoned pilot would offer such a sweet gift to their enemies by diving into a 100+ lagged fleet battle with all our super secret safe bm's nicely tucked in an unsecure hold when they could have left them in one of the oh so many cans inside an oh so secure pos shield.
Let's not even CONSIDER for a second that's an easy way to drop a can instead of using much needed items like ammunition... i mean come on now, who would think of doing that?
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Ilmonstre
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Posted - 2006.07.01 13:35:00 -
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Jurushy why wouldnt goon wanna play for fun and creatin lag isnt really boosting the fun factor and where is this proof of those 15-20 people selfdestructing then becouse i find it a wild acusation and its based on thin air if you dont have annything to back you up.
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2006.07.01 13:35:00 -
[556]
Originally by: Kyria Timeyu
Also, an important part of any assault on a new region is bookmark distribution logistics. It makes sense that people would carry bookmarks in their cargo hold that they were planning to distribute to others.
errr, no. Just, no. We've had a pilot warned for lagging a system out whilst sat IN a station, copying, with only friendlies in the system. Out of respect for others the copying of bms should NOT take place in this kinde of scenario.
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Andraxx
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Posted - 2006.07.01 13:43:00 -
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Edited by: Andraxx on 01/07/2006 13:44:03
Yes WildCard is banned for 14 day
and it seems some people arn't abel to read
WildCard to FC: Im since ten minutes 36au out from the enemy POS. And still under fire:
FC to WildCard: Can you activate anyting?
WildCard to FC: No I can't activate/deactive modules. Also i cant lock at this range. I transfer you what i see:
WildCard's View
WildCard to FC: I try to relog. brb
FC to Wildcard: Ok an you get back into the game?
WildCard to FC: No, i see a realy black universe. So last chance "I do a stuck petion, so that i can get back in.
Next day: WildCard you have won a 14 day holyday.
Eyerone which can think a little can see what is the truth.
And is i know WildCard he will never forget what you have done....
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Deva Blackfire
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Posted - 2006.07.01 13:52:00 -
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Originally by: Happydayz
I'm not quite sure what the argument here is. Are you saying that the goons are flying ships into battle loaded with bookmarks in order to lag people out?
Yes
Quote:
If I understand the game mechanics correctly it won't really matter if the BM's are in a ship during a battle, it will only really cause lag if the ship gets blown up.
Guess what. That was a killmail from battle at Goon POS! Hurray! His ship was blown to pieces dropping a can full of... BMs!
Quote:
Looking at the map there were literally hundreds of kills every day for the past few days, I'd wager most of them goonfleet. Assuming that they are trying to intentionally lag people out with bookmarks you would think that you would have more then 2 killmails with bookmarks in them.
I just checked my kills and i dont have too many of em (5 yesterday, 5 2 days ago). 2/10 ships killed by me (20%) had BMs in cargo hold. I can say i was lucky and only 10% actually has BMs. Wow - it is 15 ships per one fleet engagement.
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Poolpy
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Posted - 2006.07.01 14:10:00 -
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Originally by: Deva Blackfire
I just checked my kills and i dont have too many of em (5 yesterday, 5 2 days ago). 2/10 ships killed by me (20%) had BMs in cargo hold. I can say i was lucky and only 10% actually has BMs. Wow - it is 15 ships per one fleet engagement.
You can't make a good statistic with only 10 killmail, use the d2 killboard and check at least 100 kill...
Anyway, I'm looking in both killboard (d2 and goon), and from the killmails, it does'nt seem that there is a generalized use (your "only" 10%) of bookmarks in teh cargohold from the goons...
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Jurushy
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Posted - 2006.07.01 14:20:00 -
[560]
Edited by: Jurushy on 01/07/2006 14:21:21
Originally by: Ilmonstre
Jurushy why wouldnt goon wanna play for fun and creatin lag isnt really boosting the fun factor and where is this proof of those 15-20 people selfdestructing then becouse i find it a wild acusation and its based on thin air if you dont have annything to back you up.
becouse they would be able to kill a dread which can not be controlled by the pilot?
this fight of the goons have nothing todo whit fun
they only want to take over Cloud Ring whit all methods they can use unclude exploids
otherwise they would be already kicked out of the system and i am sure they know that
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DeadDuck
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Posted - 2006.07.01 14:31:00 -
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Just dont understand why people continue to defend GOON pilots that use game exploits to use Lag...
Is because you guys are hostile towards the Northern Alliances ? Because if that is the main reason to defend Goons,and their practices, beware that you are helping people spoiling a great game.
Massive evidences have been posted and people continue to find explanations for a singular behaviour for the pilots that died with 100 bms in the cargo, and so on ...
If this kind of actions continues we will never have a free lag game.... no matter what you guys say to CCP to "upgrade the servers", "fix the dam game" it will never happen, the lag will continue to rule and people will not bother to connect.... the game will die with time.
Droping cans full of bms, deploying drones inside pos .. etc, etc, etc, are just tactics to cause lag !!!!
Lets put our passions regarding alliances aside and lets ALL fight against this procedures ... THEY DONT HELP ANYONE, even people currently using them will regret the massive use of this exploits on a short/medium term when some others will employ the same dam tactics against them...
A worried CCP costumer
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HardcoreHak
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Posted - 2006.07.01 14:34:00 -
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guys GUYS if your character doesn't have at least 20mil sp, you shouldn't be able to play the game. in fact, maybe they should just shut down new player registration. and instead of combat, you just target somebody and press a button, and then whoever has more sp automatically wins.
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MasterEYE
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Posted - 2006.07.01 14:35:00 -
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Here u got atleast one selfdestructing
Linkhttp://dl.eve-files.com/media/0607/2006.06.29.21.48.20.png
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Poolpy
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Posted - 2006.07.01 14:40:00 -
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Edited by: Poolpy on 01/07/2006 14:41:09
Originally by: MasterEYE
Here u got atleast one selfdestructing
Linkhttp://dl.eve-files.com/media/0607/2006.06.29.21.48.20.png
How self destructing the capsule cause lag ?
Maybe he whant to return immediately in a station ? 
P.S. check the message, he aborted the self destruction.
EDIT : i'm neutral, i don't care about alliances war ^^ (thats for the people that think i'm biased)
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Deva Blackfire
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Posted - 2006.07.01 14:55:00 -
[565]
Originally by: Poolpy
Edited by: Poolpy on 01/07/2006 14:41:09
Originally by: MasterEYE
Here u got atleast one selfdestructing
Linkhttp://dl.eve-files.com/media/0607/2006.06.29.21.48.20.png
How self destructing the capsule cause lag ?
Maybe he whant to return immediately in a station ?
P.S. check the message, he aborted the self destruction.
EDIT : i'm neutral, i don't care about alliances war ^^ (thats for the people that think i'm biased)
Usually goons selfdestruct much more pods in fleet combat. At once or very close to each other.
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theforce
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Posted - 2006.07.01 15:03:00 -
[566]
lol 20 pages already
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Juggernaut Kell
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Posted - 2006.07.01 15:07:00 -
[567]
Originally by: Poolpy
Edited by: Poolpy on 01/07/2006 14:41:09
Originally by: MasterEYE
Here u got atleast one selfdestructing
Linkhttp://dl.eve-files.com/media/0607/2006.06.29.21.48.20.png
How self destructing the capsule cause lag ?
Maybe he whant to return immediately in a station ?
P.S. check the message, he aborted the self destruction.
EDIT : i'm neutral, i don't care about alliances war ^^ (thats for the people that think i'm biased)
Umm, can you come up with some more excuses? And the last line is somewhat comical, bottom line is just like every other gaming league I have seen, the losers resort to exploits. Simple as that.
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13th
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Posted - 2006.07.01 15:18:00 -
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This is getting quite ridiculous and is rapidly entering the realm of baseless name calling and insulting.
Certain people need to take a deep breath and walk away from the forums for a few days.
Fight it out in game, not on the forums. If you find something questionable, petition it and let the GMs sort it out. It is their job to determine what is an exploit, not yours.
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Zfhjfdthe
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Posted - 2006.07.01 15:22:00 -
[569]
Goonfleet has 700 members whose only job is to fly into the enemies in their pods and selfdestruct them to create lag.
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Poolpy
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Posted - 2006.07.01 15:26:00 -
[570]
Originally by: Juggernaut Kell
Umm, can you come up with some more excuses? And the last line is somewhat comical, bottom line is just like every other gaming league I have seen, the losers resort to exploits. Simple as that.
Excuse me if I'm naif and I don't think that every action made by the enemy is for creating lag.
And finally i'm not in the north, so I can only make supposition from the screenshot.
Anyway i agree that losers resort to exploits, and if they are really causing lag with cheap tricks, they will be banned.
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Deva Blackfire
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Posted - 2006.07.01 15:32:00 -
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Originally by: 13th
Fight it out in game, not on the forums.
Im trying, sir! But 5 minute lag or 15minute logon attempt after crasing doesnt help, sir!
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Kaldaine
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Posted - 2006.07.01 15:38:00 -
[572]
Originally by: Juggernaut Kell
Originally by: Poolpy
Edited by: Poolpy on 01/07/2006 14:41:09
Originally by: MasterEYE
Here u got atleast one selfdestructing
Linkhttp://dl.eve-files.com/media/0607/2006.06.29.21.48.20.png
How self destructing the capsule cause lag ?
Maybe he whant to return immediately in a station ?
P.S. check the message, he aborted the self destruction.
EDIT : i'm neutral, i don't care about alliances war ^^ (thats for the people that think i'm biased)
Umm, can you come up with some more excuses? And the last line is somewhat comical, bottom line is just like every other gaming league I have seen, the losers resort to exploits. Simple as that.
Umm, aborted means canceled or stopped. So in other words, he stopped self-destructing... However if I was in a huge fleet battle with control of a region at stake I would wish to return to a friendly station and grab a ship immediatly, especially if the closest one might be as far as 30 jumps out. Whoops, I mean GOONS ARE ALL CHEATERS AND SHOULD BE BANNED.
Seriously, there seems to be several isolated incidents. The drones were explained unless it happened multiple times? The action makes sense to me, Goonfleet has very little command experience in POS wars so they might not know the right response, especially if they expect the dreads to warp in close. I will apologize in advance that not every alliance has great military leaders like BoB and D2.
And bookmarks in cargo-holds? D2 and allies must have over 1000 Goonswarm kills and the most they have to complain about are two killmails with bookmarks on them? OH GEE GUYS WHAT EXPLOITERS! For anyone who doesnt know, Im betting that about 50% of the Goonswarm fleet has less than 4 million SP with a large portion of them being complete newbies. Goonswarm just held a recruitment drive and there are plenty of people who probably dont even know how to copy bookmarks.
As far as resorting to exploits the only person to get probation was Wildcard so I guess we have figured out who the losers are.
This is getting old. Right now D2 and their allies look like a bunch of babies crying in the forum because they cannot beat a bunch of newbies. The average SP total in the fleet is around 5 million. They have little experience in POS wars especially by themselves. God forbid they make any mistakes! Are you guys looking for sympathy from the rest of EVE? Really, theres a huge coalition that controls the entirety of the north fighting against one alliance (SMASH doesnt count as they are a dead alliance), whose skill point total is probably 1/100th of those it is fighting against.
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Ilmonstre
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Posted - 2006.07.01 15:39:00 -
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deadduck i was only asking for proof of this massive selfdestruct thing he claims is happening.
and i am not defending annybody as i have repsonded to points from both sides.
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Stanley Tweedledee
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Posted - 2006.07.01 15:44:00 -
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Originally by: Juggernaut Kell
Umm, can you come up with some more excuses? And the last line is somewhat comical, bottom line is just like every other gaming league I have seen, the losers resort to exploits. Simple as that.
I don't know what games you like to play, but in every online gaming community I have been in, the REAL losers are the ones who cry LAG/Exploit every time they die.
This thread is pathetic, I see pages upon pages of D2/YouWhat/other puppet alliances calling Goonswarm cheaters without ANY evidence to back it up. So far I have heard of Goonswarm with drones out when they expect to be engaged at close range, I have seen the killmails of two (TWO!) ships with bookmarks in their cargohold (in a siege situation where the station is playing ping pong, you shouldn't even think about docking), and I have seen a screenshot of a pod self destructing (which is the quickest way to get a POD back to a medical bay without giving a kill to the enemy), goonfleet pods probably only cost around 30K anyway, and I have even heard complaints that Goonswarm are only attacking during their prime-time.
The only person here who has been diciplined for exploiting was the CEO of STV, which speaks volumes about what we are reading here.
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Deva Blackfire
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Posted - 2006.07.01 15:45:00 -
[575]
Originally by: Kaldaine
This is getting old. Right now D2 and their allies look like a bunch of babies crying in the forum because they cannot beat a bunch of newbies.
You still dont get it, do you?
Most of us dont care if they die in fight when you can CONTROL your ship. Night after night we engage goon incomming support at gates having abt 30-40 on our side and 80-120 goons. We usually lose a lot of ships - but we never complain about those fights. Why? Because there is NO LAG in those engagements. And if we lose sth it is ONLY because of bad tactics or enemy outnumbering us. But after all those fights noone goes here whining. Problem is POS bashing where module activation takes anywhere from 5-30 minutes.
Jump into enemy fleet and wait 5 minutes please. Then tell me if you survived or you can say "good fight".
Ah as for drones - it was multiple times (thou i dont have screenies from previous days).
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Happydayz
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Posted - 2006.07.01 15:47:00 -
[576]
Originally by: DeadDuck
Just dont understand why people continue to defend GOON pilots that use game exploits to use Lag...
I would say that I'm trying to ask questions to clarify the issue because during my previous affiliation with goonfleet I've never seen a FC intentionally create lag or advocate the use of an exploit in order to gain the upperhand. In fact I distinctly remember a few cases (NBSI freighters moving into Syndicate specifically) where the FC would have gotten an easy win had they used a widely known exploit yet tried to do the right thing instead.
The drone issue was already explained by goonfleet as being a strategy based on D2's previous engagements in XZH. Mainly that the dreads warped in at distance to load screen then warped to the POS at close range in order to engage. Assuming that is what happened (which D2 confirmation on would help) then their having drones out on the third day of battle makes sense. They expected the dreads to come in at distance and then warp in up close again, in which case all the GF ships would need to slowboat out of the POS forcefield to engage at close range. I think its safe to say that the goonfleet FC thought it better then to have their drones already out ahead of time especially if he expected lag to slow down module/command response times
The self destructing pod issue is just silly tbh. Suicidal tactics and a disregard for pods are hallmark GF strategies. There were a few ops that I led where I basically told pilots not to warp their pods off in battle to save them because I'd rather have undisciplined hostile pilots waste time taking those out. More importantly getting podkilled makes for a quicker return to the homebase and can almost halve the amount of time it takes for shipless pilots to return to the fight. And Of COURSE there are going to be more pod self-destructions in fleet combat, people tend to lose ships during them
The spamming local issue is also very silly. Ask any group that has waged war against goonfleet, the whole "fofofo" thing (taken from Ultima Online) is only done AFTER a goonfleet victory, and then usually only a major one. So although it should annoy an enemy (which I imagine is half the point), it should not effect the outcome
The can thing was already explained: people unloading excess ammo before battle. Remember that goonfleet is based in S-U, which I believe is 30 or so jumps from XZH? Either way if ships are going to convoy up from S-U to XZH it makes sense to pack them with as many war supplies as possible. If you don't need them then no big deal, it's not like 400m3 worth of bloodclaw missiles is going to bankrupt anyone.
The bookmark issue is the only thing that I find troubling. But the only evidence are two killmails ofpeople with bookmarks in the cargoholds. I can tell you from that from the other campaigns that goonfleet has embarked on that it made ense to do some BM copying close to the front. In 4C in Outer Ring and BKG in Branch for example there were many people who just idled in station as there sometimes was not much going on. In those cases it simply made sense to have people doing bookmark copying as it at least put them to good use. So no surprise there that there would be some people doing this in XZH during periods of relative calm.
I think a lot of the angst is explainable by people not really "getting" how goonfleet operates. The anger over podjumping for example perfectly illustrates this. For people with expensive implants and clones it is hard to remember back to the time when your clone cost 250k and it was easier (and more profitable) to just podjump everywhere rather then bother with traveling. Same with needing to make BM's for players who don't have a lot of regional sets and can't afford to buy them off the market, same with dropping cans for anti sniping points when you can't snipe or to unload cheap and disposable T1 ammo
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DeadDuck
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Posted - 2006.07.01 15:54:00 -
[577]
Originally by: Ilmonstre
deadduck i was only asking for proof of this massive selfdestruct thing he claims is happening.
and i am not defending annybody as i have repsonded to points from both sides.
Wasnt directed to you specifically
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Aramark
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Posted - 2006.07.01 15:59:00 -
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so who is having more fun? D2+allies or GF+allies?
simple question
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Kaldaine
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Posted - 2006.07.01 16:00:00 -
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Originally by: Deva Blackfire
Originally by: Kaldaine
This is getting old. Right now D2 and their allies look like a bunch of babies crying in the forum because they cannot beat a bunch of newbies.
You still dont get it, do you?
You are right, I dont. What do you want them to do? How about this, from now on, Goonswarm can only use 50 pilots for the rest of the time they have left in the game. Each day, the first 50 pilots who log on get to play and everyone else has to sit out. Also any alliance engaging you can only use 50 pilots at max because it will hurt your feelings if they use any more.
You are blaming them for lag even when you have more people in system then them. Lag hurts them as much as it hurts you. They want to have fun as much as you do. The several cases we have seen just illustrate the fact that Goonswarm are inexperienced. WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT!? Im sure there are plenty of ways other then lag, and more lame too, that GS could devise to attack with if such was their intention. I can think of three off the top of my head that would be much more effective.
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Ilmonstre
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Posted - 2006.07.01 16:04:00 -
[580]
Originally by: DeadDuck
Originally by: Ilmonstre
deadduck i was only asking for proof of this massive selfdestruct thing he claims is happening.
and i am not defending annybody as i have repsonded to points from both sides.
Wasnt directed to you specifically
alrighty then
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Uglyone
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Posted - 2006.07.01 16:10:00 -
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Originally by: Deva Blackfire
Edited by: Deva Blackfire on 30/06/2006 22:59:35
Quote:
Destroyed items:
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon I
Gyrostabilizer I
Basic Gyrostabilizer
Medium Nosferatu I
Medium Nosferatu I
Depleted Uranium M, Qty: 66
Depleted Uranium M, Qty: 66
Depleted Uranium M, Qty: 69
10MN Afterburner I (Cargo)
10MN Afterburner I (Cargo)
Stasis Webifier I (Cargo)
Phased plasma M, Qty: 2000 (Cargo)
Depleted Uranium M, Qty: 817 (Cargo)
Bloodclaw Light Missile, Qty: 560 (Cargo)
Bookmark (Cargo)
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Wonder how many ships had similiar cargohold. And how many BMs were left in can when guy popped (from battle at POS).
just send in one petition for each and one of them and keep doing it until they get banned, exploiting isnt allowed.
sooner or later a GM with some sense shows up and takes a peak in their cargoholds and slaps them silly.
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Ikarushka
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Posted - 2006.07.01 16:13:00 -
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As amusing as it is, but I thought that only GMs can declare action of a pilot/corp/allience to be an exploit. So instead of wasting your time on chest beating you guys might need to direct that energy to persuading a GM. Cause "Gm declared actions of <blah> to an exploit and banned <blah> for 2 weeks> sounds much more persuading to the public than "<blah> are all exploiters, and we know it!!!"
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Uglyone
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Posted - 2006.07.01 16:18:00 -
[583]
Originally by: Ikarushka
As amusing as it is, but I thought that only GMs can declare action of a pilot/corp/allience to be an exploit. So instead of wasting your time on chest beating you guys might need to direct that energy to persuading a GM. Cause "Gm declared actions of <blah> to an exploit and banned <blah> for 2 weeks> sounds much more persuading to the public than "<blah> are all exploiters, and we know it!!!"
can lagging and bookmark lagging has in the past been considered a exploit by GM's
its nothing new and is considered a exploit as it gives you a unfair advantage that you created that the other guys cannot counter, hence unfair and a exploit.
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Stanley Tweedledee
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Posted - 2006.07.01 16:27:00 -
[584]
Originally by: Uglyone
can lagging and bookmark lagging has in the past been considered a exploit by GM's its nothing new and is considered a exploit as it gives you a unfair advantage that you created that the other guys cannot counter, hence unfair and a exploit.
There are also legitimate reasons for dropping cans and copying bookmarks in space. It is up to the GM to decide the individuals intention, not you!
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Ikarushka
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Posted - 2006.07.01 16:28:00 -
[585]
Originally by: Uglyone
Originally by: Ikarushka
As amusing as it is, but I thought that only GMs can declare action of a pilot/corp/allience to be an exploit. So instead of wasting your time on chest beating you guys might need to direct that energy to persuading a GM. Cause "Gm declared actions of <blah> to an exploit and banned <blah> for 2 weeks> sounds much more persuading to the public than "<blah> are all exploiters, and we know it!!!"
can lagging and bookmark lagging has in the past been considered a exploit by GM's
its nothing new and is considered a exploit as it gives you a unfair advantage that you created that the other guys cannot counter, hence unfair and a exploit.
You see it's like watching a game, where both teams and their fans argue that there was foul and blah blah blah... however unless the referee calls a foul (i.e. uses his/her expert opinion after reviewing all of the facts and enforces it with power given to him/her) it means nothing more than a street rant of a biased crowd
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Andraxx
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Posted - 2006.07.01 16:49:00 -
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Edited by: Andraxx on 01/07/2006 16:49:06
We talk again when the "According to our logs we can't..." hammer hits you badly
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Cythereon
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Posted - 2006.07.01 16:58:00 -
[587]
Originally by: Jurushy
Originally by: Cefte
Edited by: Cefte on 01/07/2006 04:13:22
This is an announcement for anyone else who might be fighting D2 now, or in the future.
Lunchtime yesterday, an observant goon warped to one of our POS in XZH and found a D2 pod belonging to Kalok inside the POS bubble, approaching an empty goon freighter, with the can from his Bestower also inside the POS bubble. A second can, belonging to a Steelvipers player, Quarantine, was at the inside edge of the POS bubble. When he was noticed, he warped off.
It would seem that D2 is using warpins fifteen kilometers behind the POS bubble, and then bugging the warp so that the pod ends up inside a hostile POS bubble's force field. They can then enter empty ships inside the bubble and have the POS destroy them.
This has been petitioned, and is being dealt with, but only by the sharp observation of a goon did we know what was going on. Take this as a warning, of an exploit, and an alliance that will use said exploit.
Screenshot 1
Screenshot 2
according to what i here u guys foget to set a password so it was possible to steal it but we couldnt manage this lucky for you
and the only one who exploit is your ******* laggcreators
Why don't you log out and petition for the rest of your ships to be moved out of system?
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2006.07.01 17:05:00 -
[588]
Originally by: Stanley Tweedledee
Originally by: Uglyone
can lagging and bookmark lagging has in the past been considered a exploit by GM's its nothing new and is considered a exploit as it gives you a unfair advantage that you created that the other guys cannot counter, hence unfair and a exploit.
There are also legitimate reasons for dropping cans and copying bookmarks in space. It is up to the GM to decide the individuals intention, not you!
Indeed it is. And they have already done so.
Look forward to your accounts spending times inactive, you can also look forward to being on the eve communitys blacklist.
You guys may come from a nice and fluffy "paid" internet community, but in this game I really don't think u realise how deep the hole you are digging for yourselves really is - nor what nasty animals at the bottom await you.
Just carry on, goon, and even you won't zerg the potential fleet that comes to trounce you.
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Deva Blackfire
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Posted - 2006.07.01 17:16:00 -
[589]
Originally by: Kaldaine
Originally by: Deva Blackfire
You still dont get it, do you?
You are right, I dont. What do you want them to do? How about this, from now on, Goonswarm can only use 50 pilots for the rest of the time they have left in the game.
And still so wrong. Problem is when D2 and goons are lagged at that fcking POS and waiting 15minutes to do anything POS guns still operate and STILL shoot us. Yeah - 15 minutes for us to kill one ship, but in that time POS guns can kill 10-20 ships. Or kill dread that couldnt turn on reppers. Or...
Fair fight? Lets have slugfest at some planet - where POS guns doesnt reach at all. Winner takes all. Dont care if it will be 500goons vs 150 ours. We wont get instapopped by buttshots.
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Cefte
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Posted - 2006.07.01 17:19:00 -
[590]
Originally by: Dianabolic
Indeed it is. And they have already done so.
Look forward to your accounts spending times inactive, you can also look forward to being on the eve communitys blacklist.
As it happens, we have already ordered GoonSwarm members to only copy bookmarks in station during late hours, and never to carry them in space in XZH. I have yet to be contacted by any GM regarding copying bookmarks, although I have had a mail from a GM telling us not to drop cans to use as sniping marks, and as since that order the tactic has been removed from our playbook.
You yourself say that you've been warned about bookmark copying. We never have been, and we were never told it was an issue. Either way, it's been stopped. Give us the same grace you have taken for yourself.
The fact remains, individuals on both sides seem to delight in petitioning any possible or perceived infraction of the rules, but, to my knowledge, the only bannings so far have been on the D2 allied side. Maybe this will change in time. We'll see.
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Virtuoso DeToure
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Posted - 2006.07.01 17:24:00 -
[591]
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Stanley Tweedledee
Originally by: Uglyone
can lagging and bookmark lagging has in the past been considered a exploit by GM's its nothing new and is considered a exploit as it gives you a unfair advantage that you created that the other guys cannot counter, hence unfair and a exploit.
There are also legitimate reasons for dropping cans and copying bookmarks in space. It is up to the GM to decide the individuals intention, not you!
Indeed it is. And they have already done so.
Look forward to your accounts spending times inactive, you can also look forward to being on the eve communitys blacklist.
You guys may come from a nice and fluffy "paid" internet community, but in this game I really don't think u realise how deep the hole you are digging for yourselves really is - nor what nasty animals at the bottom await you.
Just carry on, goon, and even you won't zerg the potential fleet that comes to trounce you.
Fine ahoy!
Dianabolic, I'm not quite sure what we've done to you, but I ask you for just one second to relax and drop whatever we have done to **** you off and let me explain something. Quite a few of our pilots have been playing the game for less than a month. These guys JUST learned how to copy bookmarks. They don't know that it causes lag or that it is against the rules to fly around with bookmarks in your hold. I know that flying through Jita with 500 bookmarks is not a good idea, just like you do, but these guys do not. All they know is that they need bookmarks and that they need to be up in XZH helping.
After we realized this was happening, we have gone out of our way to make sure EVERYONE knows not to copy bookmarks anywhere near XZH. We're sorry. We're not BoB, and a lot of us haven't been playing the game very long, nor do must of us understand the intracies like "don't copy bookmarks in a warzone." If you personally hate us, fine. But hate us for something else besides inexperience and unknowingly breaking a rather hazzy rule. |
Amano Uzume
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Posted - 2006.07.01 17:31:00 -
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the lag is awfull like your forum is named and pos weapons dont lag like our dreads they shoot.
thats your 1st advantage.
ok, goonfleet plays with all possibilities and tricks in game. your 2nd advantage.
indeed, they fight well and have no problems in getting killed.
thats clear, because all the clones only cost 1mil isk :-)
3rd advantage
but you will see that you will get killed anyway.
we will always find a way to react and be sure we have skills, more than needed isk,
balls and we will fight with fun till the end of time for our regions !!!
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Logan Williams
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Posted - 2006.07.01 17:34:00 -
[593]
Originally by: 13th
This is getting quite ridiculous and is rapidly entering the realm of baseless name calling and insulting.
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Orbital Drift
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Posted - 2006.07.01 17:41:00 -
[594]
Someone asked about fun. Whooweee! This has been good. [Mostly] Nonstop fighting for a week , minimal smack in local and a target rich environment. Granted, there have been times where there was a lot of lag but it's not unique CR and certainly not unique to the PvP experience.
I understand even the SMASH dread pilots had a real white knuckle morning this morning over in G8, expecting the D2, et.al. fleet that was in XZ to show up at any moment. They managed to put that POS into reinforced mode just as the D2 scouts were entering the system.
Cloud Ring fun++
forum mongering--
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MacDuncan
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Posted - 2006.07.01 17:43:00 -
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About INTENTIONAL creating lag:
Could you imaging my surprise after spotting several Ibis/shuttles within the middle of our support fleet during the battles? Could you then imagine plz. my surprise after reading the system msg. "some goonie activated self-destruction" and see the same "some goonie" sitting app. 20km away from my BS? App. 270km away from it's POS?
Did they added firepower, did they bumped anyone? No, just warped in and selfdestructed.
Where is the clue??
Another thing i noticed:
I know the clone express very well on my own. I used it lots of times by myself. But i never used it DURING the battle, only AFTER the fight. Last night i realized doozends of self destructions JUST AT THE MOMENTS the GF engaged...no podair before, no podair afterwards...intentional or not?
I have to admit:
I can't prove anything, 'cause i didn't checked any can, did set off the logging to file to minimize computer related lag and didn't took any screenies. But the questions still stands...
I will not come again to that drone deployment thingie again, but as reading the probably incompetence/inexperience of the GF-FC's i have to ask:
If 2 days in a row, 3 runs per attack the dreads are coming to app. 100km range of the POS, why should any FC, even if he's completly inexpierenced, order to deploy drones to actually use them?
Towards all the other lame alts replying "OMG....the low SPish GF is bashing D¦...":
1st: Free yourselfs from the thoughts of GF = T1-Frig-Noobs!
Honestly, otherwise you will fail as we eventually failed in the beginning of this conflict.
2nd: They even respawn faster than ASCN did in AZN, so their logistics is very well planned and coordinated! Granted and that does help them a lot, just leaves the question open, who's their sponsor (S-U e.g. is not very populated for any "production backup" these days)?
I'm going to leave it now, 'cause i'm hungry and will have a break for meal...
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Orbital Drift
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Posted - 2006.07.01 17:49:00 -
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Also: a word to the wise. Beer + vagabond + enemy POS == A Real Bad Thing{tm}
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13th
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Posted - 2006.07.01 18:00:00 -
[597]
Originally by: Orbital Drift
Also: a word to the wise. Beer + vagabond + enemy POS == A Real Bad Thing{tm}
Fear the power of the Kegabond. It makes all odds look like good odds.
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Eshtir
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Posted - 2006.07.01 18:06:00 -
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Temporary lock during cleanup.
-Eshtir
forum rules | [email protected]
Yulai, we have a problem!
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