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Ouroboron
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Posted - 2006.07.01 21:02:00 -
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Originally by: Jargoon
Originally by: Weirda
  
h4xx0rz...
(and didn't say that because you are a Goon!)
It's unfortunate that we are starting to get a bad reputation due to some of the trash talking going on. Personally, if I believed GoonSwarm was using or encouraging exploits or intentionally causing lag I would quit in a heartbeat.
However, all I have seen from my alliance since the fight for XZH started has been honorable and appropriate behavior (with the exception of a few rogue alts posting on the forums, and believe me we all hate them as much as you do). D2 obviously has the skillpoint and cap ship advantage, so we have had to brainstorm and come up with inspired and unconventional, but legitimate tactics in order to hold our ground. I can only imagine the look on their faces when they jumped in the other night to find themselves up against a fleet of Ospreys 
With the exception of a few rogue D2 pilots and forum posters (who shall remain unnamed), D2 has been an admirable and gracious foe. While I feel confident we will prevail, if we lose to them I believe it will be fair and square.
I concur. I have seen zero internal communication telling us to exploit in any manner. Either internal forums, or on TS in game.
Likewise, D2 for the most part, has been an exceptionally worthy and honorable foe. This entire campaign, since inception, has been magnificent, and more fun in a computer game, than I've had in a long, long time.

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Viscount Prawn
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Posted - 2006.07.01 21:05:00 -
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Originally by: Hackbard Celine the only thing to say about these fights is: It makes a lot of ppl want to quit eve, because the lag is so horrible. Every action takes more than one minute to confirm,even aligning, firing and warping out. If there is a fight, this also happens when you¦re at a safespot. so this is not playable and no fun...sry
I don't know about you guys but lag or no lag, these fights are some of the most fun I've ever had in EVE. I know of several Goons who have said on our forums that they would have let their subscription run out if it weren't for this absolutely epic campaign. Much thanks to D2 and allies for the fights! |

squidgee
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Posted - 2006.07.01 21:10:00 -
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Edited by: squidgee on 01/07/2006 21:11:56
Originally by: Nira Li
Originally by: Hackbard Celine the only thing to say about these fights is: It makes a lot of ppl want to quit eve, because the lag is so horrible. Every action takes more than one minute to confirm,even aligning, firing and warping out. If there is a fight, this also happens when you¦re at a safespot. so this is not playable and no fun...sry
The more ppl who quit the less lag for the rest. Hurrah Huraah \o/
But people quitting means less to shoot at. 
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BuSHiDo ZiN
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Posted - 2006.07.01 21:11:00 -
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Originally by: Nira Li
Originally by: Hackbard Celine the only thing to say about these fights is: It makes a lot of ppl want to quit eve, because the lag is so horrible. Every action takes more than one minute to confirm,even aligning, firing and warping out. If there is a fight, this also happens when you¦re at a safespot. so this is not playable and no fun...sry
The more ppl who quit the less lag for the rest. Hurrah Huraah \o/
The more people quit the less money CCP has and then we have to go back to the old server when they can't afford to run the monster of a blade array they've got right now and we'll all be playing on a 800MhZ Celeron with a boosted hard drive
No matter how well you know what a person has done And what he thought he was doing when he did it And what he now thinks of what he did, It is impossible to be certain of what he will do next. |

Nira Li
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Posted - 2006.07.01 21:18:00 -
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Originally by: BuSHiDo ZiN
Originally by: Nira Li
Originally by: Hackbard Celine the only thing to say about these fights is: It makes a lot of ppl want to quit eve, because the lag is so horrible. Every action takes more than one minute to confirm,even aligning, firing and warping out. If there is a fight, this also happens when you¦re at a safespot. so this is not playable and no fun...sry
The more ppl who quit the less lag for the rest. Hurrah Huraah \o/
The more people quit the less money CCP has and then we have to go back to the old server when they can't afford to run the monster of a blade array they've got right now and we'll all be playing on a 800MhZ Celeron with a boosted hard drive
Lies I tell you!! 
You Will Cry My Name Funny Guys
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SengH
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Posted - 2006.07.01 21:25:00 -
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Originally by: Nira Li
Originally by: BuSHiDo ZiN
Originally by: Nira Li
Originally by: Hackbard Celine the only thing to say about these fights is: It makes a lot of ppl want to quit eve, because the lag is so horrible. Every action takes more than one minute to confirm,even aligning, firing and warping out. If there is a fight, this also happens when you¦re at a safespot. so this is not playable and no fun...sry
The more ppl who quit the less lag for the rest. Hurrah Huraah \o/
The more people quit the less money CCP has and then we have to go back to the old server when they can't afford to run the monster of a blade array they've got right now and we'll all be playing on a 800MhZ Celeron with a boosted hard drive
Lies I tell you!! 
Yep they have the china server. What do they need us for now?
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Alctel Prime
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Posted - 2006.07.01 21:28:00 -
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Edited by: Alctel Prime on 01/07/2006 21:29:26 Yes, been great fun in XZH, D2 have been good opponents, apart from the forum warriors and their stupid, untrue and baseless accusations of exploiting.
The lag has been pretty much horrific for both sides sadly, the server must be almost melting! |

Tarnish Katharr
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Posted - 2006.07.01 21:53:00 -
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Originally by: Weirda
Originally by: Tarnish Katharr Worked very nicely on the first night of hosilities and the ogres will happily stay outside attacking the dread while I'm ducking out of fire.
  
h4xx0rz...
(and didn't say that because you are a Goon!)

Please review my tactic. MWD out to the dreadnaught and attack it. My drones begin to attack as well, since when I'm sitting zero meters away from a dreadnaught, I'm well within my 45km control range.
Now once your drones have begun to attack a target they will continue to attack until you recall, leave the grid, or explode. Darting back into the POS bubble will not stop their attack as they have already been given the order to attack when I was outside the bubble. Test it for yourself. Sic a drone on a buddy and have him MWD away from you until he's well outside your control range. Notice your drone is still attacking. Try it at a POS. Move outside the bubble, order the attack and move back into the bubble. Oh look they're still attacking.
In our earlier battles STV and D2 had their dreadnaughts coming within 50km of our pos making my tactic quite reasonable. Since then they've been bringing their dreads in much further away, negating that tactic. So I'm using a geddon now.
Hope that clears things up for you.
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Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2006.07.01 22:06:00 -
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Originally by: SengH
Originally by: Nira Li
Originally by: BuSHiDo ZiN
Originally by: Nira Li
Originally by: Hackbard Celine the only thing to say about these fights is: It makes a lot of ppl want to quit eve, because the lag is so horrible. Every action takes more than one minute to confirm,even aligning, firing and warping out. If there is a fight, this also happens when you¦re at a safespot. so this is not playable and no fun...sry
The more ppl who quit the less lag for the rest. Hurrah Huraah \o/
The more people quit the less money CCP has and then we have to go back to the old server when they can't afford to run the monster of a blade array they've got right now and we'll all be playing on a 800MhZ Celeron with a boosted hard drive
Lies I tell you!! 
Yep they have the china server. What do they need us for now?
Yes, the china server, because we all know how the chinese masses have 15USD a month to spend on an MMO.
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Lisbo
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Posted - 2006.07.01 22:13:00 -
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all lies...we dont have lag in XZH...GMs assured us that...we are blind and dumbasses...we dont have lag...repeat, we dont have lag!
so...no word anymore...lag doesnt happen...
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mynnna
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Posted - 2006.07.01 22:14:00 -
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Originally by: Malthros Zenobia
Originally by: SengH
Originally by: Nira Li
Originally by: BuSHiDo ZiN
Originally by: Nira Li
Originally by: Hackbard Celine the only thing to say about these fights is: It makes a lot of ppl want to quit eve, because the lag is so horrible. Every action takes more than one minute to confirm,even aligning, firing and warping out. If there is a fight, this also happens when you¦re at a safespot. so this is not playable and no fun...sry
The more ppl who quit the less lag for the rest. Hurrah Huraah \o/
The more people quit the less money CCP has and then we have to go back to the old server when they can't afford to run the monster of a blade array they've got right now and we'll all be playing on a 800MhZ Celeron with a boosted hard drive
Lies I tell you!! 
Yep they have the china server. What do they need us for now?
Yes, the china server, because we all know how the chinese masses have 15USD a month to spend on an MMO.
Works for WoW doesn't it? Besides, they're chinese, they can just farm isk to buy timecards! 
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Nobu Yori
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Posted - 2006.07.01 22:16:00 -
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Alliance rules allow us to post in this forum. This is a good thing because I have been wanting so much to post and thank D2 and its allies for an awesome fight. There is a reason why D2 is one of the most feared alliances in Eve. They bring the hardware, sp and the pilot skill to be deadly opponents. Make no mistake, D2 are hardcore.
This fight has been the most fun I have ever had in Eve. I wish that everyone would get a chance to see the fighting because it has been intense. I think the other thread gives a bad impression of both sides. I think most of the pilots involved are people like me, out there having a blast and fequently being blasted.
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Lisbo
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Posted - 2006.07.01 22:22:00 -
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i think the problem is not that D2 and GF fight eachother...and its good to hear that at least the new part of EVE-Players (Goons) enjoy it because its their first time of big fleet ops.
On the other hand, lots of veteran ppl quiting or taking brakes because of the horrible lag situation...no sry, no LAG here (GMs told us so).
Its a nice fight, could be more epic and nice without lag...maybe someday CCP will be faster when giving nodes more power.
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Acario Vito

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Posted - 2006.07.01 22:23:00 -
[44]
Thread moved to proper forum, please follow the forum rules, and play nice ;o)
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Algey
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Posted - 2006.07.01 22:26:00 -
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Originally by: Malthros Zenobia
Originally by: SengH
Originally by: Nira Li
Originally by: BuSHiDo ZiN
Originally by: Nira Li
Originally by: Hackbard Celine the only thing to say about these fights is: It makes a lot of ppl want to quit eve, because the lag is so horrible. Every action takes more than one minute to confirm,even aligning, firing and warping out. If there is a fight, this also happens when you¦re at a safespot. so this is not playable and no fun...sry
The more ppl who quit the less lag for the rest. Hurrah Huraah \o/
The more people quit the less money CCP has and then we have to go back to the old server when they can't afford to run the monster of a blade array they've got right now and we'll all be playing on a 800MhZ Celeron with a boosted hard drive
Lies I tell you!! 
Yep they have the china server. What do they need us for now?
Yes, the china server, because we all know how the chinese masses have 15USD a month to spend on an MMO.
You realise that China isn't the third world in all areas don't you? You're talking about 1/6 of the worlds population, a fair chunk of which aren't peasant farmers. Also this type of game is huge in that region.
That said I don't view us as a beta for China either. Come to fountain, a place oddly more dangerous than low sec space. |

Brain Day
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Posted - 2006.07.01 22:28:00 -
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Man i would love to get in on some of that action, go goons. Where do i sign up?
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Tarnish Katharr
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Posted - 2006.07.01 22:31:00 -
[47]
Alliance rules forbid us from posting in this subforum. So unless it gets moved back to the General forum, this will likely be the last post from a Goonswarm member baring any official posts from an Alliance leader.
That being said, having a hell of a good time in XZH, D2 and friends are being a standup bunch and giving me plenty of things to blow up. Thanks guys.
------------------- Stop whining! |

Tarnish Katharr
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Posted - 2006.07.01 22:34:00 -
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Originally by: Brain Day Man i would love to get in on some of that action, go goons. Where do i sign up?
Goonfleet/Waffe don't recruit from the general eve population. Some of our alliance's member corps may. Try contacting someone from Duragon (DPG), they've often been open to new members from the general population and they're a great bunch of guys.
------------------- Stop whining! |

DrLogan
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Posted - 2006.07.01 22:38:00 -
[49]
Edited by: DrLogan on 01/07/2006 22:40:01 I hope D2 wins..I'be ben living in the area for over 3 months now, really would hate to leave.
Here are some old pics of the battle up there if anyone is interested.
Goon nosing a freighter
Guess who got a new carrier...
Guess who got a new carrier...(2)
The freighter
Goon camp.
Goon nosing/healing station
Another goon camp. And the siege...
Blob 1
Blob 1 (2)
blob 2
Overview
Before the Battle
Dreads
Dreads (2)
Hudless overview
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Nobu Yori
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Posted - 2006.07.01 22:56:00 -
[50]
Originally by: Acario Vito Thread moved to proper forum, please follow the forum rules, and play nice ;o)
Now I am in violation of my alliance's rules about posting here. I will be sending you a bill for the fine with a list of my greiveances, sir!! Good Day!

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Audrea
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Posted - 2006.07.01 23:39:00 -
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Just a comment regarding the drones: They will keep attacking, until target is out more than 200km, thats when you loose the drones (like warping out).
Regarding some hinting exploits of sitting in POs while drones attack - its not. drones have their own sensors, enginers and weapons. they dont require the owner to maintain lock.
If its an exploit, then using fighters assigned by carrier sitting at POS would be exploit as well  ------------------ If you are tired of fleet combat lag, post HERE
All posts are my personal opinions. |

Goktar illiat
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Posted - 2006.07.02 00:14:00 -
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Originally by: Viscount Prawn Much thanks to D2 and allies for the fights!
Goes the same way here ! Sofar i've had a blast in XZH.
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Rebellion
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Posted - 2006.07.02 00:33:00 -
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Sounds like everyone's enjoying the war. Losses don't matter in that light.
What are ships anyway, but tokens the we put into this arcade game in order to see the lights blink and the bells tingle. :)
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Wattish
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Posted - 2006.07.02 01:07:00 -
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Edited by: Wattish on 02/07/2006 01:09:33
Originally by: Rebellion Edited by: Rebellion on 02/07/2006 00:37:08 Sounds like everyone's enjoying the war. Losses don't matter in that light.
What are ships anyway, but tokens the we put into this arcade game in order to see the lights blink and hear the bells chime. :)
My ship makes special flashy straight lights and ffshhhhwwwwwwww noises! Oh god i love lasers.
And i agree with you, losses like that just show that seriously fun fights are being had =)
Edit: i want to give props to D2 and allies, they really put up a strong fight! puts the thrill back into pvp :D
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Lunas Feelgood
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Posted - 2006.07.02 01:07:00 -
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This is a nice thread lats keep it this way.. So all alts from noth sides plz dont thrash it..
Ok firstly ill allso like to say to the goons.. OMG you are frickign insane and I mean that in a good way
We have killed so many each day but that doesnt matter they just gets new ship in a few hours and then we back to more battles..
I have personally lost 4 fully tech 2 bs and a few other ships in like 3- 4 days.. That just show the scale of this major war...
I have had alot of fun and i simply wont say anything about lag every1 got it and well every1 has to deal with it...
So thx to all goons for all the fun guys and i have to admit Goons are making me scared..
Why simply becuase of there determination and there atitude they dont care if they lose a ship thye just get another one and then they back in the fight..
The goonfleet is one of the most deadly fleet to a fully tech 2 fleet simply becuase goons bring a hole new aspect to the game...They dont care on how many they lose thye just keep on comming and comming. And there logistic is excellent if they lose a fleet its a matter of 2 hours and the they got a new 200man fleet so respect for that..
Owerall respect and GF to all partys..
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betazero
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Posted - 2006.07.02 01:31:00 -
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"You What" alliance goto solitude its where nubfleets homesystem is
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Panzer Klien
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Posted - 2006.07.02 01:34:00 -
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Originally by: betazero "You What" alliance goto solitude its where nubfleets homesystem is
Add something worthwhile or don't post.
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DeadDuck
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Posted - 2006.07.02 01:35:00 -
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Those are no doubt the most violent fights that I' m involved since playing eve ... fights all over the place at any time, in gates, stations, moons, you name it... the station swapped hands so many times that I already lost the count.
TBH Goons must be the most agressive alliance that I fought in EVE .
See you tomorrow Goons, nice fights today
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ZombyDog
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Posted - 2006.07.02 01:40:00 -
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Edited by: ZombyDog on 02/07/2006 01:42:16
Originally by: Lunas Feelgood This is a nice thread lats keep it this way.. So all alts from noth sides plz dont thrash it..
Ok firstly ill allso like to say to the goons.. OMG you are frickign insane and I mean that in a good way
We have killed so many each day but that doesnt matter they just gets new ship in a few hours and then we back to more battles..
I have personally lost 4 fully tech 2 bs and a few other ships in like 3- 4 days.. That just show the scale of this major war...
I have had alot of fun and i simply wont say anything about lag every1 got it and well every1 has to deal with it...
So thx to all goons for all the fun guys and i have to admit Goons are making me scared..
Why simply becuase of there determination and there atitude they dont care if they lose a ship thye just get another one and then they back in the fight..
The goonfleet is one of the most deadly fleet to a fully tech 2 fleet simply becuase goons bring a hole new aspect to the game...They dont care on how many they lose thye just keep on comming and comming. And there logistic is excellent if they lose a fleet its a matter of 2 hours and the they got a new 200man fleet so respect for that..
Owerall respect and GF to all partys..
Oh Lunas you should be well versed in our reckless disregard for own own safety. I joined Goonfleet a day before Euphoria Released announced December last year that they would be visiting Syndicate for a bit of a holiday, and I know that I have had many a loss mail with your name on it as the killing blow. But seriously - XZH wont be won by skillpoints, blobs or lag. It be will won through determination and perserverance, and both sides have shown plenty of this.
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Bombcrater
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Posted - 2006.07.02 02:02:00 -
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Originally by: Lunas Feelgood And there logistic is excellent if they lose a fleet its a matter of 2 hours and the they got a new 200man fleet so respect for that..
I have a feeling whoever is in charge of GoonFleet's logistics could write a book on the subject. They're losing hundreds and hundreds of ships (over 200 on Saturday alone) but somehow manage to replace them and keep coming back for more. The amount of minerals required to replace everything that's been lost in XZH in the last week (on both sides) must be staggering.
But it makes fleet battles one heck of a lot of fun. It's very refreshing to face an enemy that isn't afraid to take losses. The POS stuff has been much less enjoyable, but that's CCP's fault for implementing a system that requires large supporting fleets on both sides during POS assualts when the cluster infrastructure clearly isn't capable of handling the load.
Anyone who's laughing at GoonFleet shouldn't be. Even if D2 & friends win this one, GF's unusual tactics have been validated in a very major way. |
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