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Ilmonstre
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Posted - 2006.07.04 12:39:00 -
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if is the right word, but will it happen
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grizouh
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Posted - 2006.07.04 12:41:00 -
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 Originally by: Crellion
Originally by: Andraxx
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I am a bit upset that from 220 peeps in this system no group jumped our mere 50 peeps and so we had to jump in you and lag out... bad form gents... but then you are in a territorial war so meh... I forgive you.
Why we should jump out from XZH? After that we have to return. And then for shure the XXXXX goons will leave their POS, and we have problems to move back. So if you move up to XZH you have to enter. Also we removed bubbels from the gate so that itwas a bit more eazy 4u.
Well I said I forgive you since you have other business there too but you can rest assured that no -v- 120 man fleet would refuse the opprtunity to jump in on a 50 man hostile fleet (with only 1 dictor bubble) but rather wait on the 50 hostiles to jump into our 120. So yes I understand why you did it but no its not really up to what I consider proper pvp alliance standards.... then again I dont know if yoou are a pvp alliance so meh...
<giggle>
proper pvp alliance standards...
and of course after we would have jumped into your gatecamp to your conditions (opt range etc) goons would have let us back in without any interference because everybody plays really fair.
hope you never have to decide bout tactical movements...
we took away the bubbles etc, thats fair enough imho.
thx for your statement plutoinum, really appreciated
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Crellion
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Posted - 2006.07.04 14:51:00 -
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Originally by: grizouh
Originally by: Crellion
Originally by: Andraxx
Quote:
I am a bit upset that from 220 peeps in this system no group jumped our mere 50 peeps and so we had to jump in you and lag out... bad form gents... but then you are in a territorial war so meh... I forgive you.
Why we should jump out from XZH? After that we have to return. And then for shure the XXXXX goons will leave their POS, and we have problems to move back. So if you move up to XZH you have to enter. Also we removed bubbels from the gate so that itwas a bit more eazy 4u.
Well I said I forgive you since you have other business there too but you can rest assured that no -v- 120 man fleet would refuse the opprtunity to jump in on a 50 man hostile fleet (with only 1 dictor bubble) but rather wait on the 50 hostiles to jump into our 120. So yes I understand why you did it but no its not really up to what I consider proper pvp alliance standards.... then again I dont know if yoou are a pvp alliance so meh...
<giggle>
proper pvp alliance standards...
and of course after we would have jumped into your gatecamp to your conditions (opt range etc) goons would have let us back in without any interference because everybody plays really fair.
hope you never have to decide bout tactical movements...
we took away the bubbles etc, thats fair enough imho.
thx for your statement plutoinum, really appreciated
As always on these forums every Joe with a keyboard says whatever quoting stuff out of context...
@ Plutonium: I didnt complain. I didnt say anything. Then some 8 year old comment "111 I killed my first Megathron " type of thing was posted about me personally so I replied. rly
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Dirty Knave
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Posted - 2006.07.04 15:07:00 -
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120 man -V- fleet? I dont remember having that many :)... I love how you double what #'s we had when you smack... we had more like 65 ppl
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Plutoinum
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Posted - 2006.07.04 15:24:00 -
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Edited by: Plutoinum on 04/07/2006 15:24:47
Originally by: Crellion
@ Plutonium: I didnt complain. I didnt say anything. Then some 8 year old comment "111 I killed my first Megathron " type of thing was posted about me personally so I replied. rly
Yes, sorry, I didn't want to critizize you personally, but I was afraid that this will be taken as an offense by some other D2 members and lead to angry replies, then the next V member comes and takes it personally and replies even more harsh again and so on .... and at the end many people are flaming or begin with their e-peen measurement about something that was just meant as a fight to have some FUN. Would be a bit stupid.
I didn't notice anything lame or unfair yesterday and we chose the situation ourselves, so it would be a bit rediculous, if the involved parties started to beat the crap out of eachother on the forums over NOTHING now ! I just wanted to prevent that this happens with my comment. 
I mean we all just want to have fun and get nice fights, if there is an interesting opportunity.
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Heptameron
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Posted - 2006.07.04 15:28:00 -
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ROFL @ Crellion... man oh man don't go thinking you're that important. We had the bubbles up for Goonfleet, they were our main concern but as they were having a quiet night when we heard about you coming down the pipe we were happy as pigs in pooh...
12 bubbles were up on that gate, removing them a pita and jumping out would have conceded ground to our main concern, GF. But then that's a standard PvP call and i'm not sure if you're into PvP so meh.
Oh and one other small point to note... at the time of your jump in our gang stood at 86, your gang at last count in your approach to 9-4 was 85 (not taking into account logoffs during your 1 hour stint checking out the sites in that system :p). We were also very aware that you would obviously have the backing of the 120 man goon fleet sitting in their PoS.
So please don't massage the figures for public consumption.
GF to all once again and let the good times continue to R&R!
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MiniMinion
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Posted - 2006.07.04 15:47:00 -
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Originally by: Crellion
Well I said I forgive you since you have other business there too but you can rest assured that no -v- 120 man fleet would refuse the opprtunity to jump in on a 50 man hostile fleet (with only 1 dictor bubble) but rather wait on the 50 hostiles to jump into our 120. So yes I understand why you did it but no its not really up to what I consider proper pvp alliance standards.... then again I dont know if yoou are a pvp alliance so meh...
Originally by: Dirty Knave
120 man -V- fleet? I dont remember having that many :)... I love how you double what #'s we had when you smack... we had more like 65 ppl
The 120 number you're quoting was from a member of your alliance trying, rather weakly I thought, to smack the people in XZH. Reading comprehension ftw.
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Crellion
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Posted - 2006.07.04 16:25:00 -
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Edited by: Crellion on 04/07/2006 16:26:07
Originally by: Heptameron
ROFL @ Crellion... man oh man don't go thinking you're that important. We had the bubbles up for Goonfleet, they were our main concern but as they were having a quiet night when we heard about you coming down the pipe we were happy as pigs in pooh...
12 bubbles were up on that gate, removing them a pita and jumping out would have conceded ground to our main concern, GF. But then that's a standard PvP call and i'm not sure if you're into PvP so meh.
Oh and one other small point to note... at the time of your jump in our gang stood at 86, your gang at last count in your approach to 9-4 was 85 (not taking into account logoffs during your 1 hour stint checking out the sites in that system :p). We were also very aware that you would obviously have the backing of the 120 man goon fleet sitting in their PoS.
So please don't massage the figures for public consumption.
GF to all once again and let the good times continue to R&R!
Omg I do try not to serial-post but then you have to go and say one more thing dont you? 
Well:
(1) No we were not 85 at any time. -v- was not coming as an alliance just a small group having fun. Sometime duting the night we reached 64. At the crucial times we were 53 or less.
(2) I dont know how many you were... thanks for clarifying you were 86.
(3) About tactics and the like: I generally consider it lame not to jump in - warp in on a smaller opponent who offers a fight. Thats what I called "bad form". Now I also said 10+ posts ago that in the circumstances it was forgivable because you were involved in territiorial crap with Goons. Now how is that different from your "correcton".
(4) You knew we would have support of 120 goonies. Now there is a funny statement ... it has to be broken down...
(a) There were 230 in yoyr suystem at top count so even if you are not inflating the goonies numbers that implies that you were more than 83. nm
(b) I am surprised you KNEW we had the support of Goons since
(i) At the time when you should have jumped us we didnt.
(ii) We had been shooting goonies left right and centre for 3 days.
(iii) We only arranged the 2 hour goonie nap AFTER waiting for an hour for either of you to bring your respective 100 or 120 to engage our 53. Neither of you would so in desperation we naped one of the two randomely to avoid a 230 v 53 fight.
Anyway, I wont waste more time on this... Have fun see you in space (perhaps).
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Heptameron
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Posted - 2006.07.04 16:45:00 -
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Edited by: Heptameron on 04/07/2006 16:46:03
Originally by: Crellion
Anyway, I wont waste more time on this... Have fun see you in space (perhaps).
Hopefully........
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Biosman
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Posted - 2006.07.04 18:02:00 -
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Why waste so much time manipulating this fight into something big?
It went like this....
"guys,big -v- fleet coming down,looks like were gonna get a fight after all"
"hurray,yarrr,awesome,good ol' veritas,yay"
an hour later........
"ok,take the bubbles down,they might come in then"
10 seconds of PWNAGE later......
>-_-<zzzZZZzzZZZZZZZZZZZZ
BIOSMAN-:GUARDIAN AND PROTECTOR OF TEH DAMSEL |
SaorAlba
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Posted - 2006.07.04 19:55:00 -
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Funny reading al these complaints about lag. Maybe, just maybe -V- is now able to see how we lost our dreads. We are not incapable or simply not willing. We are fighting Goons under horrible conditions for over a week now. Load ballancing anybody? Petition anybody?
We will not bow nor bent. What we don't need is a group a borred pvp'ers flying up from the south demanding us to jump on them while we are fighting the good fight. Just declare war to Bob or Ascn and be happy. We in the North are never bored but atm could do without you around to even bring more laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaag. To bad that the only way to beat a good group of players is by generating massive amounts of lag and to bring in everybody you now up to grandma and pa. Zum kotzen.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2006.07.04 20:55:00 -
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Originally by: SaorAlba
To bad that the only way to beat a good group of players is by generating massive amounts of lag and to bring in everybody you now up to grandma and pa. Zum kotzen.
Yup, that's the only way you got any kills in JU- at all.
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
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Darko1107
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Posted - 2006.07.04 21:04:00 -
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Originally by: DB Preacher
Originally by: SaorAlba
To bad that the only way to beat a good group of players is by generating massive amounts of lag and to bring in everybody you now up to grandma and pa. Zum kotzen.
Yup, that's the only way you got any kills in JU- at all.
dbp
Cant imagine some1 like yourself would be able to manage it without lag either!
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2006.07.04 21:16:00 -
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That's why you fail boy.
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
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Bass
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Posted - 2006.07.04 21:38:00 -
[165]
Originally by: Malthros Zenobia
Originally by: SengH
Originally by: Nira Li
Originally by: BuSHiDo ZiN
Originally by: Nira Li
Originally by: Hackbard Celine
the only thing to say about these fights is:
It makes a lot of ppl want to quit eve, because the lag is so horrible. Every action takes more than one minute to confirm,even aligning, firing and warping out. If there is a fight, this also happens when you¦re at a safespot. so this is not playable and no fun...sry
The more ppl who quit the less lag for the rest. Hurrah Huraah \o/
The more people quit the less money CCP has and then we have to go back to the old server when they can't afford to run the monster of a blade array they've got right now and we'll all be playing on a 800MhZ Celeron with a boosted hard drive
Lies I tell you!! 
Yep they have the china server. What do they need us for now?
Yes, the china server, because we all know how the chinese masses have 15USD a month to spend on an MMO.
Completely unrelated to thread so i apologise, but apparently from what i've heard they're getting numbers close to what we get on our world server, and theres has just started 
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SaorAlba
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Posted - 2006.07.04 23:21:00 -
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Originally by: DB Preacher
Originally by: SaorAlba
To bad that the only way to beat a good group of players is by generating massive amounts of lag and to bring in everybody you now up to grandma and pa. Zum kotzen.
Yup, that's the only way you got any kills in JU- at all.
dbp
Strange remark really. Anything you haven't gotten over with DP? We let you rot for weeks there at the time. Even when we were back we took our time, christmas and all if I remember correctly. The moment we started to apply pressure you were out in 2 day's. I hope this refreshes some memory DP
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Miss Overlord
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Posted - 2006.07.04 23:28:00 -
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congrats to Dusk and dawn in holding off the goon incursion. COngrats to goons for keeping up the presusre making 4c and surrounds an interesting place to be
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Yazoul Samaiel
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Posted - 2006.07.04 23:33:00 -
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Well after checking the D2 KB , 9 Dreads lost and 1 carrier so far from D2 side and **** load of ships for Goons the remarks i heard in previous posts like "Noob fleet" or "Just jump into a BS with smarties and u will blow half of GF away " jsut sounds like BS since goons have gunned down loads of their enemies with lesser skills and deffo equipment , they are how ever losign bigger numbers but still the dmg they inflicted on their enemy D2 is way more . 9 dreads + carrier prob are worth more than what all Goons have lost in ships but that just could be a roughly made calculation , but this just shows its determination and will that shows the mettle of an alliance , neither its propagnda nor its shiny toys . GL to Both sides and goons u guys have achieved a land mark here 
"What ever that doesn't Kill me just makes me stronger"
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Jurushy
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Posted - 2006.07.04 23:45:00 -
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Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel
Well after checking the D2 KB , 9 Dreads lost and 1 carrier so far from D2 side and **** load of ships for Goons the remarks i heard in previous posts like "Noob fleet" or "Just jump into a BS with smarties and u will blow half of GF away " jsut sounds like BS since goons have gunned down loads of their enemies with lesser skills and deffo equipment , they are how ever losign bigger numbers but still the dmg they inflicted on their enemy D2 is way more . 9 dreads + carrier prob are worth more than what all Goons have lost in ships but that just could be a roughly made calculation , but this just shows its determination and will that shows the mettle of an alliance , neither its propagnda nor its shiny toys . GL to Both sides and goons u guys have achieved a land mark here
no that is not correct
atm the loses of Goon are a little more in worth than D2 whit the capital ships
atm we are in the scale of 25-30 mil on every side
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Ur Dirac
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Posted - 2006.07.04 23:47:00 -
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Edited by: Ur Dirac on 04/07/2006 23:47:36
Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel
Well after checking the D2 KB , 9 Dreads lost and 1 carrier so far from D2 side and **** load of ships for Goons the remarks i heard in previous posts like "Noob fleet" or "Just jump into a BS with smarties and u will blow half of GF away " jsut sounds like BS since goons have gunned down loads of their enemies with lesser skills and deffo equipment , they are how ever losign bigger numbers but still the dmg they inflicted on their enemy D2 is way more . 9 dreads + carrier prob are worth more than what all Goons have lost in ships but that just could be a roughly made calculation , but this just shows its determination and will that shows the mettle of an alliance , neither its propagnda nor its shiny toys . GL to Both sides and goons u guys have achieved a land mark here
Let's not forget that for every dread they blow up, GOON gets half a billion or more in faction loot- which they promptly add to their war chest. It's a little like Robin Hood: taking their fancy expensive ships, blowing them up, and then selling the parts to blow up still more fancy ships.
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Jin'Roh
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Posted - 2006.07.04 23:51:00 -
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Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel
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and goons u guys have achieved a land mark here
true, in creating lag
i know i know all you cool ppl from not involved and never been in xzh corps/allys will start giving me names and things but still
its true
and goons will say "we have to suffer the same lag, woohoo"
the standard bees job is lock 1 target, the dread
and even with fubar lag like xzh had the last week, after a while he has the dread locked.
he doesnt need to switch targets or anything else for a long time now.
the dread support has to lock and shoot fast, impossible
lag is there friend, and much wanted by them.
jin
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Bitter Vet
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Posted - 2006.07.04 23:55:00 -
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yes lag is really fun im sure goon fleet love lag because who doesnt like playing in lag
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Darko1107
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Posted - 2006.07.05 00:21:00 -
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Originally by: DB Preacher
That's why you fail boy.
dbp
I think you'll find you cant touch this!
... Girly.
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Alctel Prime
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Posted - 2006.07.05 01:17:00 -
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Originally by: Jin'Roh
Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel
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and goons u guys have achieved a land mark here
true, in creating lag
i know i know all you cool ppl from not involved and never been in xzh corps/allys will start giving me names and things but still
its true
and goons will say "we have to suffer the same lag, woohoo"
the standard bees job is lock 1 target, the dread
and even with fubar lag like xzh had the last week, after a while he has the dread locked.
he doesnt need to switch targets or anything else for a long time now.
the dread support has to lock and shoot fast, impossible
lag is there friend, and much wanted by them.
jin
I don't even know if you are being serious anymore, or just trolling to get a response, especially since most of the major battles have happened around D2 Primetime and so GS has been outnumbered 2-1 most of the time when the fighting is heaviest.
Saying anyone magically causes or wants lag on purpose is stupid, ridiculous and childish and posts like this only serve to undermine the rest of D2 and the other fine alliance(s) who have fought (and are still fighting) tooth and nail to hold onto this system.
It has been a non-stop battle so far, and good fights to everyone involved.
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Yazoul Samaiel
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Posted - 2006.07.05 01:32:00 -
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Originally by: Jin'Roh
Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel
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and goons u guys have achieved a land mark here
true, in creating lag
i know i know all you cool ppl from not involved and never been in xzh corps/allys will start giving me names and things but still
its true
and goons will say "we have to suffer the same lag, woohoo"
the standard bees job is lock 1 target, the dread
and even with fubar lag like xzh had the last week, after a while he has the dread locked.
he doesnt need to switch targets or anything else for a long time now.
the dread support has to lock and shoot fast, impossible
lag is there friend, and much wanted by them.
jin
Let me get this straight then , D2 lost all their ships due to lag . MMM ok here are my thoughs:
- Wellcome to eve , where every major battle with 200+ peeps is a lag fest.
-Lag goes both ways , ur lagging and so are they unless they have all relocated to iceland and are playing on the main server.
-I dont have to be in xzh to wish D2 and Goons GL so i dunno where do u get ur oppresion theory from.
-Those bees u mock just cost ur alliance 9 dreads and a carrier so i guess the whole T1 noobies or ants or all that crap needs to go out of the window and show em some respect for the simple fact that they come and meet u guys every day on the field but ohhh noes u just need to mock them to hide the fact that they are fighting u on the same lvl and that u look more uber , Ego that touches the sky means anythign to u ?
"What ever that doesn't Kill me just makes me stronger"
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Dungar Loghoth
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Posted - 2006.07.05 01:36:00 -
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Originally by: Jurushy
no that is not correct
atm the loses of Goon are a little more in worth than D2 whit the capital ships
atm we are in the scale of 25-30 mil on every side
I have a feeling if you add in all the ships lost to GS POSs it would be much more even. Can I get an official responce as to why those lossmails were never posted, yet the POS kills D2/-Y-/etc got are on the D2 killboard? If you want to split hairs, it doesn't seem right you try and have it both ways.
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Yazoul Samaiel
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Posted - 2006.07.05 01:38:00 -
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Originally by: Jurushy
no that is not correct
atm the loses of Goon are a little more in worth than D2 whit the capital ships
atm we are in the scale of 25-30 mil on every side
Well as i said its a rough calculation but without drawing an excelt sheet for it i still stand to my opinion that 1 T2 bs from D2 is worth at least 20 goons T1 cruiser that u guys pop every day , as for the dreads unless u guys pop some goons capital ships i'd say the pan is dfinatly heavy on ur side we are talkign 30 billion here just in ship cost not to mention fittings thats equivilant to like 150 T2 fitted bs if we go with 200 mill per bs , i dotn see goons losing 150 T2 fully fitted bs , do u ?
"What ever that doesn't Kill me just makes me stronger"
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Cartiff
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Posted - 2006.07.05 02:07:00 -
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Why are ERA/BOB/Anyone even posting here?
Your arguing in a thread, which has nothing to do with you.
D2 Respects Goons
Goons Respect D2
Lots of shooty, all having fun.
Lets just leave it at that eh boys, and wait for the next "big thing" to hit the forums
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"Uggs386 > omfg i like little boys"
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Yazoul Samaiel
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Posted - 2006.07.05 03:11:00 -
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Originally by: Cartiff
Why are ERA/BOB/Anyone even posting here?
This post is neither on D2 or Goons PRIVATE forums so duhhh !!!
Originally by: Cartiff
D2 Respects Goons
Respect = Calling Goons Noobs and bees bla bla bla .
"What ever that doesn't Kill me just makes me stronger"
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Tuijabird
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Posted - 2006.07.05 05:25:00 -
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Edited by: Tuijabird on 05/07/2006 05:26:12
Why does ERA even talk? You got owned out of how much space in a matter of a day? Why don't you got fan-boy some other war you pathetic excuse for an alliance. I love the fact you come on here trying to big up goons. Doesn't it **** you off a tech I(not even) alliance is doing more than you could do in months? Your sad so stfu.
Take away the lagged out dread losses. Take those dread kills away and what you have is a massacre. Dreads lost at pos? like hey are supposed to be used. d2 using them while looking at 120 man + spam party. Takes balls. But let us not get it twisted here. Without those lagged out cap ship losses. Some have been reimburesed btw. it has been a pumbling of the goon fleet time and time again.
I also find it intresting when lookin at some goosn info they either have other eve pilot joining them alot lately. Or they are buying accounts. Looking at alot of the info shows you different historys. Barely anyone is just in tyhe game for 4 months and just in goonfleet etc. Found it intresting fact.
Time will tell so keep it up and goons will be reduced to their former tech I crusier frig fleets.
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