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Ceilidh
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Posted - 2006.07.02 02:22:00 -
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Originally by: Bombcrater
I have a feeling whoever is in charge of GoonFleet's logistics could write a book on the subject. They're losing hundreds and hundreds of ships (over 200 on Saturday alone) but somehow manage to replace them and keep coming back for more. The amount of minerals required to replace everything that's been lost in XZH in the last week (on both sides) must be staggering.
How does the saying go?
"Armies march on their stomachs. Forget this and you have no army."
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Dead Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.02 02:32:00 -
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Originally by: Ceilidh How does the saying go?
"Armies march on their stomachs. Forget this and you have no army."
I agree. Fleet combat is only part of the war. Logistics play a big part.
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Logan Williams
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Posted - 2006.07.02 02:51:00 -
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Originally by: Wattish
My ship makes flashy straight lights and ffshhhhwwwwwwww noises! Oh god i love lasers.
And i agree with you, losses like that just show that seriously fun fights are being had =)
Edit: i want to give props to D2 and allies, they really put up a strong fight! puts the thrill back into pvp :D
Far be it from me to offer advice to enemies but
ctrl+alt+sft+t = all turret effects off/on ctrl+alt+sft+e = all efects off
ctrl+alt+sft+t + ctrl+alt+sft+e = insanely reduced personal lag
Originally by: Deja Thoris
I find a BE rep criticizing fighting styles to be the crowning pinnacle of irony.
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Nicocat
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Posted - 2006.07.02 06:18:00 -
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I'm running out of popcorn and sec status. I hope this battle is over soon so I can go back to ratting in peace already.
---------------------------- The opinions expressed by Nico do not reflect his corporation. He's just an ass.
-Alexi
Yes, I PvP in a Hookbill. How insane am I? EVE-Mail me and tell me! |

Gunzet
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Posted - 2006.07.02 06:36:00 -
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Originally by: Trac3rt Edited by: Trac3rt on 01/07/2006 20:55:55 I will give you my personal writeup of the events so far.
It all started last sunday when we had a small gank gang in XZ (D2 and GS have been sending gank squads into each others space for a while), just tooling around. They descovered entirely by accident that they could shoot the station, and then noticed sov had dropped. This sent the alliance into a state of hyperactivity, as everyone and their mom rushed up to see if we could properly take it from D2, just to say we did.
Apparently D2 are abandoning the region, and have no interest in it whatsoever.
We were completely unprepared for taking conqueable space, it is a goal that I think the higher ups had considered impossiuble until at least Christmas, but we had the oppertunity, and by jove we were going to take it.
A couple of ex-D2 corps left behind formed the YouWhat (-Y-) alliance to try and retake the system. Since then, the fighting has mainly been over POS's. Since our prime-time is well after theirs, our dread fleet (provided by our allies SMASH) has walked all over their POS's. Their prime time however is an entirely differant story.
GS is global, and D2/-Y-/others are not. Their prime time, they have been outblobbing us 2:1, and field twice as many cap-ships as we can. We have been giving our all, and defending our POS's, basically holding the line until our enemies log off, and the Goonswarm primetime begins.
In total we have destroyed a total of nine dreadnaughts, and have only had our POS knocked into reinforced once over the last week. Our oppnents have destroyed an instane number of our ships, and are probably 3:1 ahead in pure numbers. As is already stated in this thread, we like to suicide our ships, and are not afraid of losing 90% of our fleet if it means that we hold out until our alliances primtime hits and we get heavily reinforced.
This is a battle of David and Goliath, we are the new guys flying 60-70% frigates and cruisers, against an established powerhouse who are 60-70% T2 fitted battleships and HACs, and we are trying our damndest. We are mainly one alliance, with SMASH supporting in their American primeimte, against D2's entire PvP force, RAZOR, YouWhat, NFC, and even NORAD have been seen helping them. Thats three alliances against our one (two in American primetime).
Lets see what the weekend brings shall we.
EDIT: Turend 'our dead fleet' into 'our dread fleet', what an embarrasing typo.
This is a nice post, an inspiring rise of an alliance. It's very imformative too.
I am a newbie and root for Goonies. I hope you guys win.
-Gunzu-
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Prudence Goodwife
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Posted - 2006.07.02 07:43:00 -
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Much respect to D2 and their allies. You bring the ruckus, and you do a right proper job of it. XZH has been without a doubt the most brutal, hard fought PvP I've ever been involved in. Both sides have taken heavy blows, and both sides keep on coming back for more. Cloud ring is a bloody, brutal, knock down drag out pub brawl (AKA the most fun I've had in a long time in EVE). Here's to looking forward to more great fights, and hoping that CCP feeds the lagmonster a few more blades so his tummy's full and he stays asleep. |

Happydayz
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Posted - 2006.07.02 08:41:00 -
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Edited by: Happydayz on 02/07/2006 08:43:59
Originally by: Jargoon
I can only imagine the look on their faces when they jumped in the other night to find themselves up against a fleet of Ospreys 
w-hat?
Can ospreys recharge POS shields fast enough to counter the damage being dealt by dreads?
edit: well obviously if blob the POS with ospreys I'm sure that you can, just wondering how many ospreys you deployed to the fight 
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Eonov
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Posted - 2006.07.02 09:05:00 -
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Glad to see this thread has remained polite, as for the battles, well they still rage, fighting the swarm has been an invaluable expierience, its 1 thing having t2 ships with shiney fittings its another making them combat worthy.
Hats off to the maniacs, they just dont seem to stop pouring back into XZH with new ships, and they really arnt afraid to get in a fight. If truth be known and its already been hinted at, it will be logistics that end this battle and not the lack of will to fight for either side, either that or my wife will leave me coz i cant stay logged out for more than an hour :). members.ams.chello.nl/~rdungen/neo2.jpg[/img]
Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 kbs, ty - Cortes
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Rexthor Hammerfists
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Posted - 2006.07.02 09:09:00 -
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you killed nine dreads? O.o
quiete impressive. - Purple Conquered The World, We the Universe.
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Pricecheck Ahoy
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Posted - 2006.07.02 09:31:00 -
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Edited by: Pricecheck Ahoy on 02/07/2006 09:33:33
Originally by: Rexthor Hammerfists you killed nine dreads? O.o
quiete impressive.
One carrier also. I heard a d2 Thanatos peeped it's head outside their pos bubble and got blasted by Smash Alliance's Dreads and Remedial's Fighters. I admire that pilot's balls to do that. But it was probably an honest mistake on his part. |

MacDuncan
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Posted - 2006.07.02 09:38:00 -
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Originally by: Happydayz Edited by: Happydayz on 02/07/2006 08:43:59
Originally by: Jargoon
I can only imagine the look on their faces when they jumped in the other night to find themselves up against a fleet of Ospreys 
w-hat?
Can ospreys recharge POS shields fast enough to counter the damage being dealt by dreads?
edit: well obviously if blob the POS with ospreys I'm sure that you can, just wondering how many ospreys you deployed to the fight 
With the POS placed perfectly within it's grid, they are indeed able to do it... Could you imagine how depressing it is, seeing tons of Ospreys OUTSIDE the forcefield on the "back" of the POS boosting shields during a siege and not beeing able to kill them!! :/ --
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Cefte
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Posted - 2006.07.02 10:00:00 -
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Originally by: MacDuncan
Could you imagine how depressing it is, seeing tons of Ospreys OUTSIDE the forcefield on the "back" of the POS boosting shields during a siege and not beeing able to kill them!! :/
I feel like a Starcraft player with one Terran construction vehicle repairing my bunker while a hydralisk attacks the other side 
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Cartiff
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Posted - 2006.07.02 10:59:00 -
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Edited by: Cartiff on 02/07/2006 11:01:41
Amazing work by the Goons here indeed.
A few things nee to be mentioned though, just to be polite. Very strange, but around the enemy Main deathstar the grid ends approx 70k in all directions apart from in the gate direction, making that the only direction you cna attack from, which also makes it extremely easy to defend cos the enemy can just put as many peeps in ospreys on the opposite side as they like and negate the Dreads attack. As you can imagine, its extremely annoying, as theres nothing we can do to stop them.
Hopefully CCP will extend the grid, or at least centre the moon/POS in the middle of the grid.
I have to say, that this past week has been the bloodiest time i have ever had in EVE. Both sides seem to have a complete disregard to loss's and clash incessently. I think atm, we're reaching 20+ Large scale Fleet battles a day atm, with continue skirmishing 23/7, and i really do mean 23/7 Anytime you login, they'll be an attack or a defence going on. As you can imagine, its very crazy :) Which can also explain the kill/losses, as in most territorial conflicts, the enemy camps for 10hours for a 10minute fight, in XZH you rep for 10mins, then its right back into the fight again, there really is no let-up at all, and everyones loving it.
Massive respect to the goonswarm and to my alliance brother and sisters, atm i think we're making EVE history with the most explosive campaign ever imagined. The servers must be onfire.
Great work to both sides, nothing but respect, lets keep it coming. Me likey shooty shooty ----------------------------------- "Uggs386 > omfg i like little boys"
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Sensi Milla
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Posted - 2006.07.02 11:11:00 -
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Yeah, the station has a screwed up grid as well... I wonder if CCP can change the grids or if they are set in stone.
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Stamm
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Posted - 2006.07.02 11:25:00 -
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Originally by: Sensi Milla Yeah, the station has a screwed up grid as well... I wonder if CCP can change the grids or if they are set in stone.
I expect the grids will be automatically generated. However the actual station may not be, so perhaps it could be moved, same goes for the Goonswarm POS.
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Yazoul Samaiel
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Posted - 2006.07.02 11:25:00 -
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Originally by: Cefte
Originally by: MacDuncan
Could you imagine how depressing it is, seeing tons of Ospreys OUTSIDE the forcefield on the "back" of the POS boosting shields during a siege and not beeing able to kill them!! :/
I feel like a Starcraft player with one Terran construction vehicle repairing my bunker while a hydralisk attacks the other side 
 Starcraft 4tw "What ever that doesn't Kill me just makes me stronger"
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betazero
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Posted - 2006.07.02 11:28:00 -
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Originally by: Panzer Klien
Originally by: betazero "You What" alliance goto solitude its where nubfleets homesystem is
Add something worthwhile or don't post.
like you did with that post? OWNED! atleast i told them where nubfleet live which they might not have known. if they want revenge its where they should go. loads of nubs down there who are even worse pvpers than goon normally are
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ZombyDog
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Posted - 2006.07.02 11:41:00 -
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Originally by: betazero
Originally by: Panzer Klien
Originally by: betazero "You What" alliance goto solitude its where nubfleets homesystem is
Add something worthwhile or don't post.
like you did with that post? OWNED! atleast i told them where nubfleet live which they might not have known. if they want revenge its where they should go. loads of nubs down there who are even worse pvpers than goon normally are
As much as it pains me to respond to an Alt, but this thread was staying very civil. Regardless of what you may think D2 & friends are well aware of our home region and have raiders there constantly.
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Ceilidh
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Posted - 2006.07.02 12:05:00 -
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So does anyone have any Videos of the fights yet? Or has the lag simply made recording to difficult? 
I'd love to see the cap ships fighting :)
------------------- -Ceilidh (KAY-lee) |

ZombyDog
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Posted - 2006.07.02 12:16:00 -
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Originally by: Ceilidh So does anyone have any Videos of the fights yet? Or has the lag simply made recording to difficult? 
I'd love to see the cap ships fighting :)
Fraps has been pretty much impossible. And nobody wants to watch 5 minutes of inactivity before every thing loads and suddenly being transported to a pod. I can assure you, we have not being exaggerating on this part.
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Jhala Formei
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Posted - 2006.07.02 12:17:00 -
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Originally by: Ceilidh So does anyone have any Videos of the fights yet? Or has the lag simply made recording to difficult? 
I'd love to see the cap ships fighting :)
Recording is possible but the footage is extremely boring. I deleted it after reviewing the video after battle. The two dreadnought slaughters took over an hour and were basically 100-150 ships pounding on a dread watching his armor go down and up again for 10 minutes until his cap was drained then they'd be melted in seconds.
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fuze
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Posted - 2006.07.02 13:02:00 -
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Originally by: Ouroboron This entire campaign, since inception, has been magnificent, and more fun in a computer game, than I've had in a long, long time.
Respect
We ain't got balls, but plenty of nuts. |

Ceilidh
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Posted - 2006.07.02 13:15:00 -
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Shame that there is so much lag, was hopeing to see all the Beeees in action.
What's the fun of having big boomies if you can't actully see them BOOM! stuff? 
------------------- -Ceilidh (KAY-lee) |

Deja Thoris
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Posted - 2006.07.02 14:12:00 -
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This sounds epic guys. I hope both sides are having a lot of fun.
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ZombyDog
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Posted - 2006.07.02 14:25:00 -
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Edited by: ZombyDog on 02/07/2006 14:26:53 nvm
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knifee
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Posted - 2006.07.02 16:27:00 -
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Originally by: Ceilidh So does anyone have any Videos of the fights yet? Or has the lag simply made recording to difficult? 
I'd love to see the cap ships fighting :)
Linkage
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Kalixa Hihro
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Posted - 2006.07.02 17:02:00 -
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Originally by: Tarnish Katharr Edited by: Tarnish Katharr on 01/07/2006 13:18:18
Originally by: Jim McGregor
Nos/Neu + EW + Drone setup. Maybe you have heard of it under another name... sometimes its called the "I Win"-button. 
There are a small handful of ships in this game that I run screaming from. The Dominix, Vexor, Arbitrator and their T2 variants. I figure that if they scare the **** out of me I'd be better off flying them myself.
Unfortunately that Domi died with all of it modules turned off. Never could get them turned on. Thankfully the ogres did their thing own their own.
Edit: Except the hardeners, those were since the moment I logged in.
I was there the past 2 nights, saw the lag, and am an enemy of Goonswarm in this fight, and this is no joke or excuse. We all had terrible lag. I've been through what Tarnish has before in the south fighting ASCN in AZN, and am sorry you lost your ship that way. I only lost a thorax and I was pretty upset about it because of the way it went down. It makes you want to throw your keyboard LOL.
Some of your module buttons disappear, the ship stops responding and you just sit. You log off and on to get relief and wake up in a station. It really sucks.
Other than lagstravaganza issues like this on both sides, good fights guys! Your tenacity is worthy of respect and you fight. That's more than I can say for some people my corp ends up fighting. I haven't seen a stababond, smacktalker, or log-off exploiter among you. /bows respectfully
Keep it up. Lots of kills on both sides. I like it. Props out to the goons for acting like adults! I have to say it's been a pleasure to fight you so far. /*----------------------------------------------------------------------------------*/ My opinion in no way represents that of my corp or anyone I am associated with, and is probably entirely wrong. |

fmercury
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Posted - 2006.07.02 17:58:00 -
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Originally by: Jargoon
Originally by: Weirda
  
h4xx0rz...
(and didn't say that because you are a Goon!)
It's unfortunate that we are starting to get a bad reputation due to some of the trash talking going on. Personally, if I believed GoonSwarm was using or encouraging exploits or intentionally causing lag I would quit in a heartbeat.
Better pack your bags, then. Linkage
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Achura Pride
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Posted - 2006.07.02 18:27:00 -
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This thread seems to be going along the same route as the last
And i believe the use of one paticular exploit used by the vast majority of goonies (displays simplified images instead of portraits to make spotting enemies/allies much easier - much like the add buddy feature) has been made known to the GM's for a long time now. And if i remember correctly the answer they gave was - its not an exploit.
GM's may have the final say when it comes to game mechanics, but theres no escaping their bosses - the majority.
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Leo McGarry
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Posted - 2006.07.02 18:58:00 -
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Originally by: Achura Pride This thread seems to be going along the same route as the last
And i believe the use of one paticular exploit used by the vast majority of goonies (displays simplified images instead of portraits to make spotting enemies/allies much easier - much like the add buddy feature) has been made known to the GM's for a long time now. And if i remember correctly the answer they gave was - its not an exploit.
GM's may have the final say when it comes to game mechanics, but theres no escaping their bosses - the majority.
Sorry for the late reply. Senior GM Grimmi here. This is very hard for us to verify as such since this does not affect anyoe except the person running that particular client. We would have a pretty hard time taking action against those doing it. However, any modification of the client is strictly prohibited and if we do see reason to go after players for such modifications we will do just that. So, this would be considered an exploit but it's very difficult to enforce.
Best regards, GM Grimmi
As said this would be hard to enforce but fortunately this member has decided that if GoonFleet used an exploit he would leave - no GMs needed!
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