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Yellow Banana
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Posted - 2006.07.07 12:09:00 -
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#1 Make all item or ship bonuses apply only to the race they originate from. None racial gear would work as normal but things like Kestrels and gistii boosters would only work, or rather the bonus they get would only work, for the specific race. Remeber that all the pirate groups are racial off shoots of the big four. Race specific mods would just work like regular unamed mods in the hands of another race.
#2 less dramatic penalty. Give race specific items a bonus to their race, something like either +10% for the race or -25% for other races.
Suddenly race would be a big deal. So would faction ships since they are multiracial.
Well thats my idea, charcoal and lighter fluid are in the pit so let the flames begin
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Ai'nen Spiritstar
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Posted - 2006.07.07 12:17:00 -
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I like idea #1. It's great to have all these neat ships, but when everyone gets the same bonuses then no one has any advantage in the ship! There's no sin in giving specific advantage in the game, and it would be balanced by each races' modifiers for their ships. As for faction ships, give the full bonus for the pilot's race, and say half-bonus for the other race-modifier. So if an Amarr is flying a Vindicator they get NO bonus, but a Minmatar would get the full Minmatar and half the Gallente bonus.
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.07.07 12:18:00 -
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no
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Amister
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Posted - 2006.07.07 12:21:00 -
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 Originally by: HippoKing
no
banana
What was your point?
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McScruff
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Posted - 2006.07.07 12:25:00 -
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No.
Americans aren't the only ones that can use an F17 to full ability.
The British aren't the only ones who can fully exploit the Harrier Jump Jet, or Chalenger Tank.
People all over the world us AK47's to full devistating capability despite not being Russian.
A humans ability to use an item is based on skill and knowledge. Not blood.
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Malificus
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Posted - 2006.07.07 12:26:00 -
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Originally by: HippoKing
no
Toddly
My name is c0caine call me coke for short
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Cohkka
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Posted - 2006.07.07 12:27:00 -
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Originally by: Yellow Banana
#1 Make all item or ship bonuses apply only to the race they originate from. None racial gear would work as normal but things like Kestrels and gistii boosters would only work, or rather the bonus they get would only work, for the specific race. Remeber that all the pirate groups are racial off shoots of the big four. Race specific mods would just work like regular unamed mods in the hands of another race.
What??? What bonuses? Don't get what you want...
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#2 less dramatic penalty. Give race specific items a bonus to their race, something like either +10% for the race or -25% for other races.
Hell no, that idea is so horrible words can't discribe it. There are a lot of people out there who train for multiple races or me who's Caldari and won't fly their ships untill hell's freezing.
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Amister
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Posted - 2006.07.07 12:29:00 -
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Thats how you tell someone they are a twunk Hippo, you explain why their idea is utter crap.
Ill assume a lack of coffee.
I agree with scruff. Race in EvE is more for RPers but thankfully doesnt hinder others. With only one trainable character per account making race matter would be a pain.
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Spanker
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Posted - 2006.07.07 12:29:00 -
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Originally by: McScruff
No.
Americans aren't the only ones that can use an F17 to full ability.
The British aren't the only ones who can fully exploit the Harrier Jump Jet, or Chalenger Tank.
People all over the world us AK47's to full devistating capability despite not being Russian.
A humans ability to use an item is based on skill and knowledge. Not blood.
There we go again, comparing eve with RL. But imagine the horror of only being able to fly 1/4 of all ships, wouldn't be so much fun after a while.
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Exus
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Posted - 2006.07.07 12:33:00 -
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ive choose caldari because i wanted to fly calda ships.
ive looked at gallente ships and omg i wanted to fly a megathron ! and I did it, to its full capacity.
change that and eve is dead.
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.07.07 12:36:00 -
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OK, my alt is caldari, and he is entirely minmatar specialised. He is among a good proportion of the playerbase who are mostly specialised in another race to their starting one. Why **** all these people over?
Not only does it make very limited sense, but it goes against everything eve has always been about: the freedom to make your own choices and be on par with other players.
We all picked our characters when we knew nothing about the game or the different ships: we just picked them because we liked the description or backstory or whatever. If people get told two years down the line that they lose their bonuses (or others get additional bonuses) just because they picked the ships they liked most, there will be a ******* riot.
There is a huge loss from doing this, and absolutely no gain whatsoever. If CCP ever implement this (which they won't, thank Christ), I'll quit Eve on principal.
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Vathar
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Posted - 2006.07.07 12:38:00 -
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For once, I think the RL analogy stands.
As for linking pirate faction to empire faction to get full bonuses, I don't think it's a good idea at all. Would reduce versatility and fitting possibilities without bringing anything really worth it. And considering some deadspace mods are not lootable due to lack of appropriate level complexes, there would be a problem here
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Originally by: Stamm
Minmatar are kind of like going down a flight of stairs on an office chair firing an uzi
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Yellow Banana
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Posted - 2006.07.07 12:38:00 -
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Ok well yeah, but with #2 you can still use other races items just not 100% as well. And as to the RP/RL objections these races were seperated for 100s of thousands of years right? So the technology wouldn't be 100% the same therefore justifying a small penatly for cross racial use.
Otherwise why not just forget race all together and let us creat generic pilot Xs?
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McScruff
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Posted - 2006.07.07 12:38:00 -
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Like the man says. For those who want to play the game to its fullest (yeh i RP so i'm biased. shoot me.(no wait... don't)) the Race can and does count for a whole lot.
For those who ignore that part of the game Race doesn't matter.
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Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2006.07.07 12:39:00 -
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It's a bit late to implement this.
All of those Minnies who trained Caldari Battleship to 5 would not be happy.
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Meridius
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Posted - 2006.07.07 12:44:00 -
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Has the thought process involving how insanely bad this would nerf thousands of people enter your head while writing this post?
I truly wonder..
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McScruff
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Posted - 2006.07.07 12:59:00 -
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Originally by: Yellow Banana
Ok well yeah, but with #2 you can still use other races items just not 100% as well. And as to the RP/RL objections these races were seperated for 100s of thousands of years right? So the technology wouldn't be 100% the same therefore justifying a small penatly for cross racial use.
Otherwise why not just forget race all together and let us creat generic pilot Xs?
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Yes Races have been seperate for hundreds of years.
They are all still just as capable as each other when it comes to pressing a button, or maintaining a gun.
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.07.07 13:04:00 -
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Calisto Cody
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Posted - 2006.07.07 13:06:00 -
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i am minnie, specced in amaar, and not to shabby in caldari, cant fly minnie well at all...
so the vote goes no
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Aramendel
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Posted - 2006.07.07 13:18:00 -
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It *may* had been worth discussing 40 months ago...too late. WAY too late.
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Cade Morrigan
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Posted - 2006.07.07 13:26:00 -
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Edited by: Cade Morrigan on 07/07/2006 13:27:03
Originally by: McScruff
Americans aren't the only ones that can use an F17 to full ability.
AHEM! Listen up, if you think just anyone can fly an F17, you need to think again!
-= Save the Gila! Fix its grid and cpu! =-
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Jaketh Ivanes
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Posted - 2006.07.07 13:30:00 -
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Originally by: HippoKing
no
Correct statement, I fully endorse it.
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McScruff
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Posted - 2006.07.07 13:32:00 -
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Edited by: McScruff on 07/07/2006 13:33:27
oh i never said that.
But where they were born counts for jack.
Edit:
/me bangs his head on the desk a few times.
Repeate after me McScruff.
I must click links before i coment. I must click links before i coment.
And belive you me, i couldn't fly that thing.
Can't stand deep fryed food. (except chips)
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.07.07 13:33:00 -
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Originally by: HippoKing
no
QFT.
Even if Minmatar were to get a 1% projectile damage bonus, I'd be against it. The whole point of EVE is complete freedom to specialize in what you want and not be "disadvantaged-no-matter-what" to someone specializing in the same thing.
We don't want a game where Warri--I mean Minmatar are the only ones who can get the best out of the tempest, etc.
--Proud member of the [23]--
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Crellion
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Posted - 2006.07.07 13:46:00 -
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Originally by: HippoKing
no
QFT
(only half sane proposals deem a reasoned refusal)
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Reatu Krentor
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Posted - 2006.07.07 13:47:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: HippoKing
no
QFT.
Even if Minmatar were to get a 1% projectile damage bonus, I'd be against it. The whole point of EVE is complete freedom to specialize in what you want and not be "disadvantaged-no-matter-what" to someone specializing in the same thing.
We don't want a game where Warri--I mean Minmatar are the only ones who can get the best out of the tempest, etc.
yap, still it would be nice to perhaps have something special, that wouldn't be restricted to just so and so race perhaps? something like, hmm doctrines? that need strong investment in skills to be able to train? bs V?
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FantomChaser
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Posted - 2006.07.07 14:11:00 -
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if you want to do this.. CCP done the mistake not do this from the second they made the game... like me im amarr race but i play Caldari ships wot about me ? i wont like this change.. unless... they give me the ability to change my blood to caldari else it wont be fair and would SCREW alot up
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mimik
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Posted - 2006.07.07 14:46:00 -
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i think the fact the OP has associated caldari ships with gisti mods for racial effectiveness sums up how serious this idea should be taken.
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Ysolde Xen
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Posted - 2006.07.07 15:09:00 -
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No.
*reads post*
No. No. No.
*reads whole thread*
Still NO.
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Cruz
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Posted - 2006.07.07 15:14:00 -
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Edited by: Cruz on 07/07/2006 15:14:35
Originally by: Yellow Banana
#1 Make all item or ship bonuses apply only to the race they originate from. None racial gear would work as normal but things like Kestrels and gistii boosters would only work, or rather the bonus they get would only work, for the specific race. Remeber that all the pirate groups are racial off shoots of the big four. Race specific mods would just work like regular unamed mods in the hands of another race.
gist mods are angel mods ;-)
AKA Minmattar.
So yes please make it so caldari can't use Gist gear 
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