Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 [10] 11 12 13 .. 13 :: one page |
|
Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 4 post(s) |
Fish McCragg
Adventure Bros.
14
|
Posted - 2014.08.14 04:53:00 -
[271] - Quote
Ktersida Nyn'Amanyn wrote:
It's in constellation D-C00172 and Region D-R00018.
So far it looks like in Region 18, constellation 172 got C3s and 168 got C5s.
Precluding C1 added statics (since all of region 18 is P060 already), there should be two pairs of constellations with the same new statics. If I can get SISI to cooperate, I'll be adding intel on constellation 169 soon. In order to successfully predict/chart the new statics, we'll need at least 2 more data points from region 18, and with some luck, 2-4 data points from another region.
More data, people! Time's a-tickin' |
Nancy Wayke
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
4
|
Posted - 2014.08.14 06:53:00 -
[272] - Quote
Well, our C4/C2 now has an additional C5 static, so we're moving everything out. |
Pavel Sohaj
Anoikis Exploration
34
|
Posted - 2014.08.14 07:13:00 -
[273] - Quote
Fish McCragg wrote:Pavel Sohaj wrote:
Throwing out ideas :D idk how to put more isk to C4. More anomalies? BEtter blue payouts?
Escalations. Even just one wave would go a long way.
Yup. Tho add time so the isk / hour payout is not really changed.
Kuya Third wrote:Pavel Sohaj wrote:Add C5+ gases to C4 systems Nice "pvp" content. Is someone really going after ventures?
You-¦d be surprised :D |
Pavel Sohaj
Anoikis Exploration
34
|
Posted - 2014.08.14 07:15:00 -
[274] - Quote
epicurus ataraxia wrote:I would like to add a suggestion, once one rebalances the C1 to C4 wormholes this might be a good idea. See below There is an issue in c3 and More particularly C4 wormholes that small corporations ALL have times of day when there may only be a single player on. This means for that player, after scanning out everything possible, his only choices are to wait for others, or escape to HIsec or null for their income opportunities. The suggestion is the spawning of signature sites (not anomalies) suitable for a skilled single player in additional to the existing ones, not vast numbers, but enough to give some interest and income in those off times. Keep them able to be completed reasonably quickly with a little more emphasis on blue loot, as the likelihood of being disturbed is high. This will encourage the continuous working of wormholes through most of the day, rather than just peak times. And encourage players to live and work wormhole space rather than having to have a part time job in Kspace.
SIngle player can run sites up to C5. Thing is, you need 2nd char to watch your back always. OR risk being boomed. Although the idea of small C3/C4 anomalies, that are quick, provide reasonable amount of coin for the time / risk involved is good.
|
epicurus ataraxia
Lazerhawks
1016
|
Posted - 2014.08.14 10:43:00 -
[275] - Quote
Pavel Sohaj wrote:epicurus ataraxia wrote:I would like to add a suggestion, once one rebalances the C1 to C4 wormholes this might be a good idea. See below There is an issue in c3 and More particularly C4 wormholes that small corporations ALL have times of day when there may only be a single player on. This means for that player, after scanning out everything possible, his only choices are to wait for others, or escape to HIsec or null for their income opportunities. The suggestion is the spawning of signature sites (not anomalies) suitable for a skilled single player in additional to the existing ones, not vast numbers, but enough to give some interest and income in those off times. Keep them able to be completed reasonably quickly with a little more emphasis on blue loot, as the likelihood of being disturbed is high. This will encourage the continuous working of wormholes through most of the day, rather than just peak times. And encourage players to live and work wormhole space rather than having to have a part time job in Kspace. SIngle player can run sites up to C5. Thing is, you need 2nd char to watch your back always. OR risk being boomed. Although the idea of small C3/C4 anomalies, that are quick, provide reasonable amount of coin for the time / risk involved is good.
Yes we are all guilty of saying "solo" when we really mean having 2 or 3 alts, to cover security or for The DPS they bring. It can give a very wrong impression, which is destructive to the goal of making it possible for a single person, unassisted, to earn anything at all, in REASONABLE safety, without leaving the hole, during slacktimes.
There is ALWAYS risk in wormholes, rewards for true single player, practical, activity should reflect that, otherwise, they jump to HS for a bit. And that is not good for vitality in wormholes. There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE |
Pavel Sohaj
Anoikis Exploration
35
|
Posted - 2014.08.14 10:54:00 -
[276] - Quote
epicurus ataraxia wrote:Pavel Sohaj wrote:epicurus ataraxia wrote:I would like to add a suggestion, once one rebalances the C1 to C4 wormholes this might be a good idea. See below There is an issue in c3 and More particularly C4 wormholes that small corporations ALL have times of day when there may only be a single player on. This means for that player, after scanning out everything possible, his only choices are to wait for others, or escape to HIsec or null for their income opportunities. The suggestion is the spawning of signature sites (not anomalies) suitable for a skilled single player in additional to the existing ones, not vast numbers, but enough to give some interest and income in those off times. Keep them able to be completed reasonably quickly with a little more emphasis on blue loot, as the likelihood of being disturbed is high. This will encourage the continuous working of wormholes through most of the day, rather than just peak times. And encourage players to live and work wormhole space rather than having to have a part time job in Kspace. SIngle player can run sites up to C5. Thing is, you need 2nd char to watch your back always. OR risk being boomed. Although the idea of small C3/C4 anomalies, that are quick, provide reasonable amount of coin for the time / risk involved is good. Yes we are all guilty of saying "solo" when we really mean having 2 or 3 alts, to cover security or for The DPS they bring. It can give a very wrong impression, which is destructive to the goal of making it possible for a single person, unassisted, to earn anything at all, in REASONABLE safety, without leaving the hole, during slacktimes. There is ALWAYS risk in wormholes, rewards for true single player, practical, activity should reflect that, otherwise, they will jump to HS for a bit. And that is not good for vitality in wormholes.
thought so on the alts. Also agree on omnipresent danger. You never know. |
Pro TIps
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
5
|
Posted - 2014.08.14 11:38:00 -
[277] - Quote
CCP Fozzie wrote:I want to make it clear that we are interested in making adjustments to wormhole PVE in the future, and we're working with the CSM to do some planning for that now but there won't be any major PVE changes in Hyperion. Those still need more time.
I definitely do believe that there are more factors to a decision about where to live than the amount of money that can be farmed, and the addition of the second static should help reinforce some of these other factors. You don't seem to care that these things are linked.
C4-space is a very good place for a corp to grow and gain experience before they branch out (or move up) to less-isolated areas. You are eliminating that unique space and growth-opportunity. My corp may as well rent in nullsec; it will certainly be cheaper than losing ships and time to increased PVP gang traffic. The only reason we think we have the needed experience to move out to null, though, is the several months we spent on the C4 learning curve. |
Ya Huei
Imperial Collective Unsettled.
173
|
Posted - 2014.08.14 12:26:00 -
[278] - Quote
Nancy Wayke wrote:Well, our C4/C2 now has an additional C5 static, so we're moving everything out.
Yup being able to farm C320 gas from all those empty C5's is horribad for sure..
|
Pavel Sohaj
Anoikis Exploration
36
|
Posted - 2014.08.14 12:33:00 -
[279] - Quote
Ya Huei wrote:Nancy Wayke wrote:Well, our C4/C2 now has an additional C5 static, so we're moving everything out. Yup being able to farm C320 gas from all those empty C5's is horribad for sure..
You need to roll quite a few to find it. Then clear it. |
Klarion Sythis
Literally Solo
297
|
Posted - 2014.08.14 12:33:00 -
[280] - Quote
Pro TIps wrote: C4-space is a very good place for a corp to grow and gain experience before they branch out (or move up) to less-isolated areas. You are eliminating that unique space and growth-opportunity. My corp may as well rent in nullsec; it will certainly be cheaper than losing ships and time to increased PVP gang traffic. The only reason we think we have the needed experience to move out to null, though, is the several months we spent on the C4 learning curve.
Legit question: why is a C3 not viable for you? I've always thought the income was comparable. |
|
Nancy Wayke
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
5
|
Posted - 2014.08.14 12:49:00 -
[281] - Quote
Ya Huei wrote:Yup being able to farm C320 gas from all those empty C5's is horribad for sure.. I'm not quite sure what the point in posting such a ridiculously blinkered statement is; you know that that is not the only knock on effect of having a C5 link permanently in a corp's home system, and everyone else knows it too. |
Ya Huei
Imperial Collective Unsettled.
173
|
Posted - 2014.08.14 12:52:00 -
[282] - Quote
Pavel Sohaj wrote:Ya Huei wrote:Nancy Wayke wrote:Well, our C4/C2 now has an additional C5 static, so we're moving everything out. Yup being able to farm C320 gas from all those empty C5's is horribad for sure.. You need to roll quite a few to find it. Then clear it.
Yes pavel.. C320 is harder to find than mythical space unicorns and everyone is out to get you.
Happy now?
|
Nancy Wayke
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
5
|
Posted - 2014.08.14 12:52:00 -
[283] - Quote
Klarion Sythis wrote:Legit question: why is a C3 not viable for you? I've always thought the income was comparable. C3's only have k-space statics; I know that's the reason that my corp didn't go into a C3 wormhole.
|
Klarion Sythis
Literally Solo
297
|
Posted - 2014.08.14 13:03:00 -
[284] - Quote
Nancy Wayke wrote:Klarion Sythis wrote:Legit question: why is a C3 not viable for you? I've always thought the income was comparable. C3's only have k-space statics; I know that's the reason that my corp didn't go into a C3 wormhole. Fair reason. I still don't think it's a bad place to start, but I can see how that limits growth without a static to farm. |
Nancy Wayke
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
5
|
Posted - 2014.08.14 13:08:00 -
[285] - Quote
Klarion Sythis wrote:Fair reason. I still don't think it's a bad place to start, but I can see how that limits growth without a static to farm. We wanted wormhole PvP as well, so a C4 with static C2 gave us a decent place to base ourselves from. Better income than a C2 on home system sites, and a C2 static to PvP in or run sites when it's quiet if people want to.
|
Ya Huei
Imperial Collective Unsettled.
173
|
Posted - 2014.08.14 13:27:00 -
[286] - Quote
Nancy Wayke wrote:Ya Huei wrote:Yup being able to farm C320 gas from all those empty C5's is horribad for sure.. I'm not quite sure what the point in posting such a ridiculously blinkered statement is; you know that that is not the only knock on effect of having a C5 link permanently in a corp's home system, and everyone else knows it too.
I was just illustrating an easy way to make money off your new static, aside from this, a couple of rr domies can do the easier c5 sites without too much of a hassle.
Contrary to what you people seem to think C5 systems are empty or inactive most of the time. Sure occasionally someone will find your c4-C2 to use it for trafficing goods.. guess what.. train bombers and pop their haulers and have some fun.
Experiment, try something, etcetera.
|
Nancy Wayke
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
5
|
Posted - 2014.08.14 13:52:00 -
[287] - Quote
Ya Huei wrote:Contrary to what you people seem to think C5 systems are empty or inactive most of the time.
But the times they aren't, we are connected to a group of people with income many times our own, in a system capable of supporting many times the number of pilots we have, with no way of rolling the wormhole due to the other changes coming in the Hyperion expansion. |
Ya Huei
Imperial Collective Unsettled.
173
|
Posted - 2014.08.14 13:58:00 -
[288] - Quote
Nancy Wayke wrote:Ya Huei wrote:Contrary to what you people seem to think C5 systems are empty or inactive most of the time. But the times they aren't, we are connected to a group of people with income many times our own, in a system capable of supporting many times the number of pilots we have, with no way of rolling the wormhole due to the other changes coming in the Hyperion expansion.
Just like there are many pvp corps living in C2's that are larger than you are an can prevent you from rolling your C2 right now, without any changes.
Sometimes things don't go your way. shocker.
|
Kynric
Sky Fighters
155
|
Posted - 2014.08.14 14:16:00 -
[289] - Quote
Nancy Wayke wrote:Ya Huei wrote:Contrary to what you people seem to think C5 systems are empty or inactive most of the time. But the times they aren't, we are connected to a group of people with income many times our own, in a system capable of supporting many times the number of pilots we have, with no way of rolling the wormhole due to the other changes coming in the Hyperion expansion.
If you give it a chance I think you will find that C5 space is mostly empty not unlike the rest of wormhole space. Only a very small per cent of the holes contain active and organized groups which are paying attention and online. More often than not I can't even find an epithal or venture hugging a pos, ships actually in space are even more rare.
As a corp that is usually actively trying to find those few active holes which might field a pvp fleet, I can tell you that finding them just does not happen very often. There are maybe a half dozen interesting / dangerous holes at any given moment out of 513; that is around 1%. As long as you don't act like an idiot in local most likely the few that roll through will leave quickly enough. My advice is relax, try out your new environment for a bit and then decide. |
Nancy Wayke
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
5
|
Posted - 2014.08.14 14:20:00 -
[290] - Quote
Ya Huei wrote:Just like there are many pvp corps living in C2's that are larger than you are an can prevent you from rolling your C2 right now, without any changes.
Sometimes things don't go your way. shocker.
The proportion of corps inhabiting C2 systems that we don't stand a chance against is much lower than the number of C5 corps that we don't stand a chance against. Someone can prevent us rolling our hole right now, without any changes. And on those nights, well, we're pretty scuppered.
But the Hyperion changes will mean that the nights on which we are scuppered will be more frequent, significantly so, because we'll be encountering corps that we can't put a fight up against more often, and we will not be able to roll the wormhole due to the mass-based spawn distance changes. The increased risk paired with our relatively low income will not be sustainable or enjoyable for us.
So we're moving out and finding a system that is more to our tastes.
I understand that you would wish more people to be running sites in C5s - they would be great targets |
|
Ya Huei
Imperial Collective Unsettled.
173
|
Posted - 2014.08.14 14:28:00 -
[291] - Quote
You got my motivation all wrong, much like most of what you have been posting, but good luck to you anyway.
|
Nancy Wayke
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
5
|
Posted - 2014.08.14 14:36:00 -
[292] - Quote
Ya Huei wrote:You got my motivation all wrong, much like most of what you have been posting ...
Said the Neutron-Blaster-equipped spider to the fly?
You may disagree with the risk / benefit analysis I have made, but my points stand. By having an additional static that links to C5 space we could not fail to have more risk present. And you personally stand to gain targets if more people are active in C5 space. |
Fish McCragg
Adventure Bros.
15
|
Posted - 2014.08.14 15:25:00 -
[293] - Quote
Nancy Wayke wrote:Well, our C4/C2 now has an additional C5 static, so we're moving everything out.
What constellation (or Jcode if that's easier for you)? Trying to figure this pattern out. |
Ya Huei
Imperial Collective Unsettled.
173
|
Posted - 2014.08.14 15:26:00 -
[294] - Quote
Nancy Wayke wrote:Ya Huei wrote:You got my motivation all wrong, much like most of what you have been posting ... Said the Neutron-Blaster-equipped spider to the fly? You may disagree with the risk / benefit analysis I have made, but my points stand. By having an additional static that links to C5 space we could not fail to have more risk present. And you personally stand to gain targets if more people are active in C5 space.
Yes I disagree, and no I gain nothing from you remaining where you are.
|
XvXTeacherVxV
Dayman Industries
102
|
Posted - 2014.08.14 15:41:00 -
[295] - Quote
Kp Amelia wrote:Edit: Fozzie I would appreciate it if you didn't constantly emphasis the CSM when addressing questions regarding patches and such. As while I respect the fact that it is them who provide gamer feedback to you, it is you as CCP who make the decisions regarding final changes not CSM, and it is on you as CCP that accountability for both concerns as well as praise should fall.
I think mentioning any consultation with the CSM is quite appropriate since their involvement in EVE's design is substantial. This is an odd complaint. Can you see the rapier?: http://imgur.com/aFelCpv,GH6lqDE |
Nancy Wayke
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
6
|
Posted - 2014.08.14 15:41:00 -
[296] - Quote
Ya Huei wrote:... I gain nothing from you remaining where you are.
Apologies, I thought Imperial Collective were based in a C5/C5
|
Pavel Sohaj
Anoikis Exploration
37
|
Posted - 2014.08.14 17:15:00 -
[297] - Quote
Just checked, if my current WH has new C5 static ill get stuck with C5 for all time? |
Klarion Sythis
Literally Solo
297
|
Posted - 2014.08.14 17:22:00 -
[298] - Quote
According to Fozzie, yes, the statics on Sisi are almost certainly going to be what comes to tranquility. |
Derath Ellecon
Washburne Holdings Situation: Normal
2301
|
Posted - 2014.08.14 17:33:00 -
[299] - Quote
Pavel Sohaj wrote:Just checked, if my current WH has new C5 static ill get stuck with C5 for all time?
At least you didn't get a brand new C6 static. |
Pavel Sohaj
Anoikis Exploration
37
|
Posted - 2014.08.14 17:35:00 -
[300] - Quote
Awesome. Already packing stuff. |
|
|
|
|
Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 [10] 11 12 13 .. 13 :: one page |
First page | Previous page | Next page | Last page |