lol :P
i may or may not have waited 20 min or so before going to bed to see if i could get the first post on 100 (thread was 1 post short)

I don't remember who got first. It was quoted and congratulated, but I don't know if the post survived the "trimming".

So when we reach page 100 again, does the winner get to say "FIRST!!!"

So when we reach page 100 again, does the winner get to say "FIRST!!!"

No, they'll lock it then, delete the thread, and claim that since there was no opposition to the mass-changes, and no proof, they'll keep it.

Man, with all due respect - you are a corporation of carrybears - just meat for everyone.
Our corporation has about 100 accounts at the time of cancellation API Statistics and as we had about 150 accounts are not in our corporation. Total that our corporation has existed alliance BLODD UNION we have done a lot in the development direction of PVP in WH.
2 months ago CCP robbed us of our opportunity to engage in PVP, (ed: api kill data in wspace)

My corp is thinking on leaving the C5 to a C4...

Isnt it about time to revert this fuckup already?

My corp is thinking on leaving the C5 to a C4...

Isnt it about time to revert this fuckup already?

Good things about mass based spawn distance:

• Can web and kill things that have randomly spawned a long distance from wh. Purely a luck based system.

Problems with mass based spawn distance:

• Extremely difficult to attack in someone's home system.
• Went to fight in our neighbours home system. Our dread got a really crappy spawn and had a hard time pewing things. We didn't bring x2 carriers in instead of dread because there was a risk they wouldn't spawn within refit range and then we'd be screwed.
• If we'd rolled into serious PvP entity we can't reroll because our numbers would be too low until peak times and the risk of being caught rolling is too high. If this was our only exit from home then we would all have to POS spin until they go away or log off for 24hrs til we get a new spawn

I mean I'd love this change if it was possible for us getting more fights and more contact with w-space members, but so far this change has been a big negative in my own experience from living in a C5-C5.

An interesting tactical issue from what I heard of that fight with the outcome of jumping the carrier(s) in with no idea if the random spawn would have dumped them in overwhelming neut range or not makes things very difficult and ultimately is a pretty poor mechanic to deal with.

Why would they not have an orca? It fit's in to a c3, never mind a c4.
And building one certainly isn't that hard.

Overall the level between reward and hostility is out of balance at the moment.

In the majority this can be tweaked, particuarly when corbexx has his figures of real income earned in the various hole types and the post hyperion metrics from CCP.

The mass spawn is the outrider here, the core of it is damaging, and that needs pulling until a more suitable replacement is found that does not break the whole cause and effect design of EVE, there's no place in EVE where one should ever get randomly put into a place where the player cannot influence the outcome.

Random disconnects and bugs are bad enough without them being designed into the game.

Overall the level between reward and hostility is out of balance at the moment.

In the majority this can be tweaked, particuarly when corbexx has his figures of real income earned in the various hole types and the post hyperion metrics from CCP.

The mass spawn is the outrider here, the core of it is damaging, and that needs pulling until a more suitable replacement is found that does not break the whole cause and effect design of EVE, there's no place in EVE where one should ever get randomly put into a place where the player cannot influence the outcome.

Random disconnects and bugs are bad enough without them being designed into the game.

It hasn't killed the rest of EVE. It won't kill WH's.

Flaw in your reasoning - WHs aren't like the rest of eve, so what might not kill the rest of Eve might very well kill WHs. (Or not).

Oh dear. Now we have an invasion of clueless nullbears.

Wormholes are NOT stargates!
This discussion is not about subcaps that can burn into position within a few seconds. It's a about large and slow moving Caps.
When was the last time you jumped a cap through a stargate?

If anything you should compare wormholes with cynos.
Imagine you couldn't cyno your Jump Freighter right into docking range of a station and instead had to slowboat 10km before docking.