This is a good change, and one that improves QoL in wormholes.

I look forward to seeing Alliance bookmarks as well, which would also reduce the amount of bookmarks that some groups need to copy over between people.

This. If we wouldn't need to copy or have copy restrictions if we had alliance bookmarks.

I like a lot of the proposed changes, and ideas. The one I object to is the distance/mass based crap.

The idea is only beneficial to large alliances/corporations. It's completely one sided. As someone whose lived in a wormhole by himself, this idea completely ruins it. This idea makes it so much harder for smaller corporations to get into the wormhole life.

I disapprove of this idea, completely. Reminds me of the grav site change. Completely ruined industry in lower class holes. I'm starting to lose faith in CCPs ability to release balanced expansions. After playing for several years, it's sad to see this game get oriented towards noobs who have zero experience. smh.

This is a good change, and one that improves QoL in wormholes.

I look forward to seeing Alliance bookmarks as well, which would also reduce the amount of bookmarks that some groups need to copy over between people.

"2b" [and] "3c" [and] "5e"

+1
Would also like to see the addition of creating BM "groups" somewhat like chat channels, so if you aren't in an alliance with someone, you can still create a shared folder(s) of bookmarks, and just add people or corps to have access to the group.

Just give us alliance bookmarks.

Everything else is just a paper thin patch over a suppurating sore.

We are also interested in your views on the bookmark system as a whole and what you would like to see from it.

We are also interested in your views on the bookmark system as a whole and what you would like to see from it.

Only thing I whould like to see, is that you guys raise the cap on bookmarks.
I am at 16000 bookmarks and cant make anymore now :(

Or maybe make it so that we can export bookmarks to a file on our Computers... so we can make room in the bookmarklist. And when we need specific bookmarks we can import them again.

We are also interested in your views on the bookmark system as a whole and what you would like to see from it.

This. If we wouldn't need to copy or have copy restrictions if we had alliance bookmarks.

I find this entire bookmark sharing system very annoying. Yes, there have been some improvements made over the years, but there is only so much you can do to improve something that is flawed to begin with.

We are suppose to be in a distant future, with super advanced technologies at our disposal and the only way to share coordinates of a certain location with my fellow pilots is to dump them in some metal can and jettison it into space, and they all have to come pick it up?? Now thats just silly... sharing coordinates should be as easy as pressing a button.

There are number of ways how this could be done, to avoid making dozens and dozens of bookmark copies to share with others.

Yes, corporation bookmarks were nice, and alliance bookmarks would also improve the whole experience further.

Some already mentioned fleet bookmars, that would only be relevant to people on joint ops and would only last as long as the fleet is still active.

Others also mentioned drag & dropping them into chats, another good idea.

So efforts should be focused towards the ultimate goal of eliminating the need of bookmark copying entirely, and making it just a 1 click/drag job that only takes you couple seconds, and not having to waste 10-15 mins (or more) till everyone involved in the upcoming op (or simply day to day routine) has the required bookmarks.

I would really just love BM's to come with an expiry date/time. I am so lazy at deleting the old chain BM's.

lots of BMs could be tagged for automatic deletion
... if the BM was placed on object (right click menu)

maybe post about them somewhere other than the secret wormhole pve forum.

>> Make bookmark copying an industry job <<

Dude. Seriously? God no. I hope you're just trolling.

That sounds terrible for any wormhole alliance and a good way to screw up all kinds of W-Space joint ops.

It most definitely is.

By the way, the changes to bookmark copying are on sisi now so feel free to give them a try and let us know how they feel. We'll also be doing a mass test next week where we will have everyone do a lot of simultaneous bookmark operations to make sure the server doesn't mind too much.

We expect that the bookmark changes will be testable in the next update of SISI, do you can experience them for yourself.

Radial menus for bookmarks for faster warping
Bookmarks in overview
Subfolders

[quote=Dawnel]Also, subfolders. And did I mention subfolders?

Hey everyone! This thread is for all of your feedback and discussion surrounding the loosening of bookmark copying restrictions that we discussed in our recently released dev blog. We are also interested in your views on the bookmark system as a whole and what you would like to see from it.

Just to get us started, we know you want alliance bookmarks. We're working on the backend systems that this kind of change would tie into.

Not sure if this is a troll post or not, but if not I guess you never lived in a WH with an alliance or coalition. Sharing 40 - 50 Bookmarks is not a rare thing, if you do.
So I know certain people who say that this bookmark patch is the only important change CCP is providing with Hyperion.

So what did change?

Completely useless when your corp moves out of WHs due to the rest of the changes.

This is a good change, and one that improves QoL in wormholes.

I look forward to seeing Alliance bookmarks as well, which would also reduce the amount of bookmarks that some groups need to copy over between people.