Throwing in my support to this now. Giving people the ability to yolo more is only good for wormholespace

Basic request would be a module in a pos that can store one "clone" for a pilot. If people want to store more than one clone, they need another module.

People cannot jump clone to these.
Swapping a clone enables your jump clone cooldown.
Directors and CEOs cannot remove or destroy clones (functions just like the personal storage array).
If these modules are destroyed, the killmail lists all the clones and implants destroyed.

Agreed. I just made a similar argument in a blog post. I'd also be interested in seeing some sort of clone enhancement that would allow you to install a temporary med clone in wormhole space for purposes of returning to it if podded with the risk that having such a clone active could result in the structure being destroyed and you being sent back to your NPC corp home in a degraded med clone (think: last known good configuration on boot or something). Protecting implants is one thing but roaming in small ships and getting podded out of your chain repeatedly isn't going to be excellent gameplay for many.

I don't really care since I solved that problem years ago by not flying expensive pods. And if you want to fly expensive pods, remember that you're in w-space where you can print ISK, so, it, again, shouldn't be a problem. Either way, I don't agree or disagree with the idea.

Pros are that it makes the Rorq marginally useful, cons are that it makes the rorq marginally useful.

The people who are against this never have a good argument that counter the benefits of this feature.

the only benefit of this feature is that you dont lose as much isk when you die...
it makes it way too easy to exploit WH anomalies and means people can be at zero risk of losing implants when PVPing and then plug their virtue/crystals back in for scanning or PVE.
it's purely something for risk averse people, there's no way around that fact.

the only benefit of this feature is that you dont lose as much isk when you die...
it makes it way too easy to exploit WH anomalies and means people can be at zero risk of losing implants when PVPing and then plug their virtue/crystals back in for scanning or PVE.
it's purely something for risk averse people, there's no way around that fact.

Do not want.
I realize that I'm in the minority on this but I still hate this idea.
It makes WHs more and more like kspace which is something im never going to get behind.

Nice idea +1, but I'm not sure about some of the limitations suggested.

Directors and CEO's cannot remove... - so what do you do if the guy leaves the corp, are you stuck with his clones? I'd say dirs / ceo should be able to destroy clones to free up space for new peeps.

A limitation of one clone per pilot is fine, but does that mean one module per person living in POS? I'm fine with being limited to storing one clone per person... but I would prefer having one module to store all people living in POS (as in each hangar, which i think is max 7 for CHA). I guess it depends on CPU / PG reqs on POS, and also on whether you want more structures to shoot at in a pos.

Given the assumption that someone plugged an expensive implant set in to actually use when the appropriate time came i.e. when in a capital in pvp you can hardly call them risk averse or do we call everyone risk averse if they don't do headlong stupid things?

my 0.02 isk - as long as you can't jump from k-space to W-space or from W-space to k-space, I like this idea.

To take this a step further, you shouldn't be allowed to jump between different Wspace systems or even different POSes in the same system. This only allows you to swap heads at the particular POS that the modual is at.

Okay, i think people doesnt know that but i'll tell all of you the simple way to get a clone without implants in your pos

Step 1: If you are in a C4-C6 wh, go to a C1-C3 .
Step 2: Go to k space
Step 3: Find a station, install a jump clone
Step 4: Find another station, and jump to the clone created in Step 3
Step 5: Go back to your wspace

I'm aware of that new hole.

But heh. Wanna ice belts in your system ?

The mechanic here is 'Ooo - I have an espensive head full of PvE implants and there's fight on so I'll just swap out to a cheap PvP clone. What a cop out. W space is the unknown where anything should be able to happen. Turning it into a more easily(cheaper) living space is not the way W space should be heading.

In short no.

At the 2013 Fanfest this was mooted and the answer form the players and CCP was a resounding no. W Space is becoming more and more like null with every little 'tweak' and this isn't where I want W space to go.

The mechanic here is 'Ooo - I have an espensive head full of PvE implants and there's fight on so I'll just swap out to a cheap PvP clone. What a cop out. W space is the unknown where anything should be able to happen. Turning it into a more easily(cheaper) living space is not the way W space should be heading.

W Space is hard(not hard enough IMO) - deal with it.

You're missing the point. W space is DIFFERENT. The more it becomes an extension of K space with all its luxury options the more debased it becomes.

I don't want W space to have K space options and features I wast W space to have its own options and be something markedly different. By all means add in new W space specific features but just adding K space ones for convenience is the wrong way to go.

I'll say it again , and it hope CCP follow the statement with results

W space is hard.

W space is hard.

Immersion ? Sense ? Getting away from highsec ?
What are you talking about.

You say you hate it yet you want to do highsec stuff in wormholes.

I'm sorry but no. Clones are crapy stuff from kspace where you can store things safely in stations.