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Red-Black-Frog
Tony Stark SA
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Posted - 2014.08.10 06:19:00 -
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hi
Could changes in the changes of cloaking module ? Namely, after 1h of turned on (or around that time) was the possibility of such a ship scan combat probs.
Why? We now have the ridiculous situation where someone logs in the system immediately after DT, and that character is in it for the next DT, which is absurd. Improved situation in null sec, where AFK lamp, can be in the system for several months, making it impossible to play another. You can do something about it?
Ps. sorry for my english o7 |
Yang Aurilen
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
301
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Posted - 2014.08.10 06:27:00 -
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Shiptoasting in daily Nerf AFK cloaking thread. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
5240
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Posted - 2014.08.10 06:28:00 -
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Red-Black-Frog wrote:hi
Could changes in the changes of cloaking module ? Namely, after 1h of turned on (or around that time) was the possibility of such a ship scan combat probs.
Why? We now have the ridiculous situation where someone logs in the system immediately after DT, and that character is in it for the next DT, which is absurd. Improved situation in null sec, where AFK lamp, can be in the system for several months, making it impossible to play another. You can do something about it?
Ps. sorry for my english o7
I will warn you up front you will not get the response you are hoping for. Especially here. Bring back DEEEEP Space! |
Jur Tissant
Unreal Darkness
157
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Posted - 2014.08.10 06:28:00 -
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If they are actually AFK, then they pose no more threat to you than if they were offline.
If they are not AFK, then they are engaging in their own form of gameplay.
Every single AFK cloaking thread has some form of "make them detectable". I don't think any topic should be completely closed to discussion but at least bring up some different ideas. |
S'Way
Bitter Vets
786
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Posted - 2014.08.10 06:29:00 -
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Oh look it's this topic again.
It's a bit late today, just over 24hrs since the last one got locked.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
23844
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Posted - 2014.08.10 06:45:00 -
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Could changes be made in the forum terms of use? Namely, after posting yet another pointless, redundant, and uninformed AFK cloaker QQ thread, the user gets increasingly longer posting bans? Something like 1 day/1 week/1 month/perma should do it. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.2. |
Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
5811
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Posted - 2014.08.10 06:54:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Could changes be made in the forum terms of use? Namely, after posting yet another pointless, redundant, and uninformed AFK cloaker QQ thread, the user gets increasingly longer posting bans? Something like 1 day/1 week/1 month/perma should do it. No. In this particular case, irony should be applied such that the user can post freely as she could before but for the period of 1 day/1 week and so on, no one will see their posts or threads they create. The Muppets: P+¦pc++rn (thanks Ria!) "So.. youre saying you cant create content.... because other people are out... creating content?" --United Arab Emirates |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
23846
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Posted - 2014.08.10 06:58:00 -
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Sibyyl wrote:Tippia wrote:Could changes be made in the forum terms of use? Namely, after posting yet another pointless, redundant, and uninformed AFK cloaker QQ thread, the user gets increasingly longer posting bans? Something like 1 day/1 week/1 month/perma should do it. No. In this particular case, irony should be applied such that the user can post freely as she could before but for the period of 1 day/1 week and so on, no one will see their posts or threads they create. That works too.
Quote:Edit: Or receive any notifications of their likes? Nah, that's not really a punishment. Maybe they can get their notifications replaced by someone else's so they never stop coming but always lead to far better posts than what the offender has written? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.2. |
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
3483
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Posted - 2014.08.10 07:04:00 -
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Sometimes, I wish I could see which posters liked another poster's posts. I just think wtf, who is doing this to my game? Oh god. |
Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
5812
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Posted - 2014.08.10 07:23:00 -
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Riot Girl wrote:Sometimes, I wish I could see which posters liked another poster's posts. I just think wtf, who is doing this to my game? Sometimes I hit like on the awful posts because it encourages more forum content.
I.. don't mean your posts ofc. The Muppets: P+¦pc++rn (thanks Ria!) "So.. youre saying you cant create content.... because other people are out... creating content?" --United Arab Emirates |
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Najenna
Caldari Deep Space Ventures Black Core Alliance
15
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Posted - 2014.08.10 07:24:00 -
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I suggest that Destroyers follow the real life aspect of what a destroyer really is. Destroyers hunt for subs in real life. they use sonar. Why can't destroyers in Eve have the ability to find cloak ships. Destroyers and destroyers only should have this ablity along with its own module.
Just my .02 Isk |
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
3485
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Posted - 2014.08.10 07:24:00 -
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Touching edit; in the emotional sense nothing weird. Oh god. |
Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
3694
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Posted - 2014.08.10 07:26:00 -
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Paikis wrote:This thread comes up on almost a weekly basis. In fact, I'd be surprised if there wasn't a nerf cloaking thread in the first 2 pages on this forum section. Almost every single one of them goes like this:
1. OP posts a post with a new (lol) idea that always boils down to some variation of the following: - "There's a big meanie who is sitting in my system and not doing anything, but I don't know where he is and I can't ever just go next door. I can't find said meanie and even though I know that he's probably at work and poses no threat at all, I wont do anything in my system that I absolutely can't leave ever because he might not be at work and I might lose a ship. CCP please stop the meanie from being able to do nothing to me because he's probably at work"
2. Thread gets trolled because its been done literally to death. This horse has been beaten so hard and so often that it's little more than a memory of a memory of a red smear on the grass, and yet it STILL WONT DIE! In fact it's been done so many times that this particular horse is now undead; even if it does die, it will still be remembered and parodied.
3. Someone comes along and suggests that AFK cloakers can't hurt you, because they are, by their very definition, AFK. No one ever lost a ship to someone who ISN'T PLAYING THE GAME.
4. Someone else comes along and points out that while the cloaker might be AFK, he might not be, and so we have Schrodinger's Hot Dropper. The cyno pilot who might be AFK... but he might not be as well, and you will only know for sure when he decloaks, points and lights his candle. (Yes, I know this isn't how the cat works)
5. Someone else comes along and suggests that you use bait and setup a TARP. Or have a defence fleet on standby. Heaven forbid you have to actually fight to defend your space.
6. A further person comes along and suggests that the problem isn't cloaking AFK in your system that you can't possibly leave ever, but that you KNOW that the person is AFK in your system... and perhaps local should be removed because free 100% accurate intel is probably not the best thing in the game and if you didn't know that the big meanie was in your system, you wouldn't be worried about leaving the undock/POS.
7. Then another person pokes their head in and complains that local is 100% NEEDED because D-Scan and probing are such bad mechanics, and IF YOU TAKE MY LOCAL AWAY IM QUITTING FOREVER AND NO YOU CAN'T HAVE MY STUFF!
8. Someone asks if they can have 7's stuff.
We end up with another thread which goes on for pages and pages between complains about local, defence fleets, inability to just go next door, people who aren't playing the game but are playing the meta, lots of bickering and in the end nothing gets solved. CCP wont remove cloaking because it would mess with waaay too many things and it creates content (which is a good thing) by removing content (which is a bad thing) but they can't really think of any way to do it without a complete overhaul of the local and scanning systems.
Now that I've had this entire thread's conversation, can we just let it die? Please? link to the original =][= |
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
3488
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Posted - 2014.08.10 07:26:00 -
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Najenna wrote:I suggest that Destroyers follow the real life aspect of what a destroyer really is. Destroyers hunt for subs in real life. they use sonar. Why can't destroyers in Eve have the ability to find cloak ships. Destroyers and destroyers only should have this ablity along with its own module.
Just my .02 Isk Feel like I'm repeating myself but why are stealth bombers even in this game? They don't go underwater irl wtf. Also, destroyers aren't destroyers anymore irl. They just kept the name but they do something completely different now. Oh god. |
Arcelian
Metentis
147
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Posted - 2014.08.10 07:31:00 -
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Bow chica bow wow. |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
10986
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Posted - 2014.08.10 07:31:00 -
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Sibyyl wrote:Tippia wrote:Could changes be made in the forum terms of use? Namely, after posting yet another pointless, redundant, and uninformed AFK cloaker QQ thread, the user gets increasingly longer posting bans? Something like 1 day/1 week/1 month/perma should do it. No. In this particular case, irony should be applied such that the user can post freely as she could before but for the period of 1 day/1 week and so on, no one will see their posts or threads they create. Edit: Or have anyone else receive any notifications of their likes? Oooh, EVE-O forums shadownban/shun. I like it. No, this isn't it at all. Make it more... psssshhhh. |
Najenna
Caldari Deep Space Ventures Black Core Alliance
15
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Posted - 2014.08.10 07:36:00 -
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Riot Girl wrote:Najenna wrote:I suggest that Destroyers follow the real life aspect of what a destroyer really is. Destroyers hunt for subs in real life. they use sonar. Why can't destroyers in Eve have the ability to find cloak ships. Destroyers and destroyers only should have this ablity along with its own module.
Just my .02 Isk Feel like I'm repeating myself but why are stealth bombers even in this game? They don't go underwater irl wtf. Also, destroyers aren't destroyers anymore irl. They just kept the name but they do something completely different now.
You are accurate to a point. Submarines and destroyers still hunt for other subs. But still destroyers were the front line defense against subs in naval warfare. Just like how our carriers in game don't have any type of AA on them but in real life Carriers have AA on them.
I know Eve is not real but warfare is warfare no matter if its real life or in game. 1 ship AKA the cloaker should not have to the ability as a single ship to shut down a system. To me that is over powered. I understand and respect the fact that local shouldn't be used as a intel channel. If local wasn't there you wouldn't know if you had a cloaker in system.
Yes D-scan and scanning mechanics are borked and are still lame after many revamps.
I was just saying to give the destroyer or the tech 2 variant a role. This would actually be a good thing. Afk cloakers now actually have to play and destroyer sales will go up and the forum war on cloakers will be over.
A new war will start and it will be the war on destroyers from all the cloakers crying " Oh my ship was blown up while I was afk at work". |
Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
3695
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Posted - 2014.08.10 07:40:00 -
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Najenna wrote:Riot Girl wrote:Najenna wrote:I suggest that Destroyers follow the real life aspect of what a destroyer really is. Destroyers hunt for subs in real life. they use sonar. Why can't destroyers in Eve have the ability to find cloak ships. Destroyers and destroyers only should have this ablity along with its own module.
Just my .02 Isk Feel like I'm repeating myself but why are stealth bombers even in this game? They don't go underwater irl wtf. Also, destroyers aren't destroyers anymore irl. They just kept the name but they do something completely different now. You are accurate to a point. Sub and destroyers still hunt for other subs. But still Destroyers were the front line defense against subs in naval warfare. Just like how our carriers in game don't have any type of AA on them but in real life Carriers have AA on them. I know Eve is not real But warfare is warfare no matter if its real life or in game. 1 ship AKA the Cloaker should not have to the ability as a single ship to shut down a system. To me that is over powered. But i understand and respect the fact that local shouldn't be used as a intel channel. If local was there you wouldn't know if you had a cloaker in system. Yes D-scan and scanning mechanics are borked and are still lame after many revamps. I was just saying to give the destroyer or the tech 2 variant a role. This would actually be a good thing. Afk cloakers now actually have to play and destroyer sales will go up and the forum war on cloakers will be over. A new war will start and it will be the war on destroyers from all the cloakers crying " Oh my ship was blown up while I was afk at work". they cant, its psychological warfare that does that. =][= |
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
3488
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Posted - 2014.08.10 07:42:00 -
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Ugh, love psychological warfare. Local really is a powerful tool. Oh god. |
ImYourMom
Republic University Minmatar Republic
50
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Posted - 2014.08.10 07:47:00 -
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perhaps this guy isnt a forum wh0re like yourselves and only comes now and again. Stop being trolls and just be nice, is it really that hard? to the OP, the has indeed been discussed lots of times, and lots of people want change sadly its mentioned that mucn, and the fact nothing has changed its a bit of a taboo subject which in turn just annoys people. One day CCP will listen....One day... |
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Najenna
Caldari Deep Space Ventures Black Core Alliance
15
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Posted - 2014.08.10 07:49:00 -
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Well I have spoken my mind and gave my .02 isk. the way i see it CCP has 3 choices.
1) Make cloaking modules use a fuel.
2) Create a ship or give a ship ( destroyer ) theabilty to hunt cloak ships.
3) Remove cloak from game entirely.
I know 3 isn't going to happen. So CCP really has 2 choices. But this is a issue that has been going on since Cloaking was introduced to the game.
So like everyone else says in New Eden. Addapt or move along to another MMO. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
8670
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Posted - 2014.08.10 07:49:00 -
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ImYourMom wrote:perhaps this guy isnt a forum wh0re like yourselves and only comes now and again. Stop being trolls and just be nice, is it really that hard?
Is it really that hard to read the forum rules? "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Clean Up Local 2014.-á |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
10991
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Posted - 2014.08.10 07:50:00 -
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Najenna wrote:the way i see it CCP has 3 choices.
1) Make cloaking modules use a fuel.
2) Create a ship or give a ship ( destroyer ) theabilty to hunt cloak ships.
3) Remove cloak from game entirely.
I know 3 isn't going to happen. So CCP really has 2 choices. But this is a issue that has been going on since Cloaking was introduced to the game.
So like everyone else says in New Eden. Addapt or move along to another MMO. 4) Do nothing. No, this isn't it at all. Make it more... psssshhhh. |
Prince Kobol
2018
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Posted - 2014.08.10 07:52:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Najenna wrote:the way i see it CCP has 3 choices.
1) Make cloaking modules use a fuel.
2) Create a ship or give a ship ( destroyer ) theabilty to hunt cloak ships.
3) Remove cloak from game entirely.
I know 3 isn't going to happen. So CCP really has 2 choices. But this is a issue that has been going on since Cloaking was introduced to the game.
So like everyone else says in New Eden. Addapt or move along to another MMO. 4) Do nothing.
Pretty sure option 4 is the best option here |
DeadDuck
Viziam Amarr Empire
87
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Posted - 2014.08.10 07:52:00 -
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Red-Black-Frog wrote:hi
You can do something about it?
No but you can, just go to the system 1 jump away
Since we are in a stupid requests tread I have another one for CCP:
I'm trying to catch people running anomalies in 0.0 systems but as soon I enter system they warp out . Can CCP introduce a new mechanic in wich people running anomalies are frozen in their position as soon hostiles enter system so I can warp in and do what ever I want ?
Why?
We now have the ridiculous situation where someone can warp out from anomalies when feeling threaten, which is absurd.
Can you do something about it? |
Arcelian
Metentis
148
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Posted - 2014.08.10 07:53:00 -
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On a more serious note, I do think cloakies are a bit OP, people try to justify it, saying it ties up that account that is sitting there doing nothing..... which is true.
I don't know, the great thing about eve is that no matter what someone or a group of someones do, you can stop them in one way or another, where as with cloak, you are unkillable until the time of your choosing. Doesn't seem very eve-like. |
Najenna
Caldari Deep Space Ventures Black Core Alliance
15
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Posted - 2014.08.10 07:55:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Najenna wrote:the way i see it CCP has 3 choices.
1) Make cloaking modules use a fuel.
2) Create a ship or give a ship ( destroyer ) theabilty to hunt cloak ships.
3) Remove cloak from game entirely.
I know 3 isn't going to happen. So CCP really has 2 choices. But this is a issue that has been going on since Cloaking was introduced to the game.
So like everyone else says in New Eden. Adapt or move along to another MMO. 4) Do nothing.
Do you have nothing better to do than follow me everywhere I go? Are you attracted to me? Did I pee in your cereal?
BTW 4) Do nothing is what they have been doing since this war on cloakers has started. The day will come were Cloakers and poor defenseless cyno pilots are fixed.
You all said they would NEVER give jump freighters or freighters any type of fitting slots and look what has happened this year?
So yea I see changes to Cyno pilots and Cloakers coming soon (TM) |
Yarda Black
The Black Redemption
341
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Posted - 2014.08.10 07:56:00 -
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You mean you have an issue with random alts that cant be scanned, probed or even interacted with until they decide to drop their little cloak of invulnerability? IF they're even in the same town as their computer that is.
Yeah. Agreed. I prefer a fueled cloak. Let the paranoia fans who make entire systems rage keep their toy and tear-extraction. Get rid of AFK. |
Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
4127
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Posted - 2014.08.10 07:59:00 -
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This thread again? Really? Already? Wasn't the last one locked like less than 24 hours ago?
Anyway, relevant.
Also, IB4L for redundant shitposting. GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104 |
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
3489
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Posted - 2014.08.10 07:59:00 -
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Arcelian wrote:On a more serious note, I do think cloakies are a bit OP, people try to justify it, saying it ties up that account that is sitting there doing nothing..... which is true.
I don't know, the great thing about eve is that no matter what someone or a group of someones do, you can stop them in one way or another, where as with cloak, you are unkillable until the time of your choosing. Doesn't seem very eve-like. And my counter-argument, as usual, is that you have a station to dock up in.
Oh god. |
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