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Red-Black-Frog
Tony Stark SA
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Posted - 2014.08.10 06:19:00 -
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hi
Could changes in the changes of cloaking module ? Namely, after 1h of turned on (or around that time) was the possibility of such a ship scan combat probs.
Why? We now have the ridiculous situation where someone logs in the system immediately after DT, and that character is in it for the next DT, which is absurd. Improved situation in null sec, where AFK lamp, can be in the system for several months, making it impossible to play another. You can do something about it?
Ps. sorry for my english o7 |
Yang Aurilen
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
301
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Posted - 2014.08.10 06:27:00 -
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Shiptoasting in daily Nerf AFK cloaking thread. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
5240
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Posted - 2014.08.10 06:28:00 -
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Red-Black-Frog wrote:hi
Could changes in the changes of cloaking module ? Namely, after 1h of turned on (or around that time) was the possibility of such a ship scan combat probs.
Why? We now have the ridiculous situation where someone logs in the system immediately after DT, and that character is in it for the next DT, which is absurd. Improved situation in null sec, where AFK lamp, can be in the system for several months, making it impossible to play another. You can do something about it?
Ps. sorry for my english o7
I will warn you up front you will not get the response you are hoping for. Especially here. Bring back DEEEEP Space! |
Jur Tissant
Unreal Darkness
157
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Posted - 2014.08.10 06:28:00 -
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If they are actually AFK, then they pose no more threat to you than if they were offline.
If they are not AFK, then they are engaging in their own form of gameplay.
Every single AFK cloaking thread has some form of "make them detectable". I don't think any topic should be completely closed to discussion but at least bring up some different ideas. |
S'Way
Bitter Vets
786
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Posted - 2014.08.10 06:29:00 -
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Oh look it's this topic again.
It's a bit late today, just over 24hrs since the last one got locked.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
23844
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Posted - 2014.08.10 06:45:00 -
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Could changes be made in the forum terms of use? Namely, after posting yet another pointless, redundant, and uninformed AFK cloaker QQ thread, the user gets increasingly longer posting bans? Something like 1 day/1 week/1 month/perma should do it. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.2. |
Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
5811
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Posted - 2014.08.10 06:54:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Could changes be made in the forum terms of use? Namely, after posting yet another pointless, redundant, and uninformed AFK cloaker QQ thread, the user gets increasingly longer posting bans? Something like 1 day/1 week/1 month/perma should do it. No. In this particular case, irony should be applied such that the user can post freely as she could before but for the period of 1 day/1 week and so on, no one will see their posts or threads they create. The Muppets: P+¦pc++rn (thanks Ria!) "So.. youre saying you cant create content.... because other people are out... creating content?" --United Arab Emirates |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
23846
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Posted - 2014.08.10 06:58:00 -
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Sibyyl wrote:Tippia wrote:Could changes be made in the forum terms of use? Namely, after posting yet another pointless, redundant, and uninformed AFK cloaker QQ thread, the user gets increasingly longer posting bans? Something like 1 day/1 week/1 month/perma should do it. No. In this particular case, irony should be applied such that the user can post freely as she could before but for the period of 1 day/1 week and so on, no one will see their posts or threads they create. That works too.
Quote:Edit: Or receive any notifications of their likes? Nah, that's not really a punishment. Maybe they can get their notifications replaced by someone else's so they never stop coming but always lead to far better posts than what the offender has written? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.2. |
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
3483
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Posted - 2014.08.10 07:04:00 -
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Sometimes, I wish I could see which posters liked another poster's posts. I just think wtf, who is doing this to my game? Oh god. |
Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
5812
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Posted - 2014.08.10 07:23:00 -
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Riot Girl wrote:Sometimes, I wish I could see which posters liked another poster's posts. I just think wtf, who is doing this to my game? Sometimes I hit like on the awful posts because it encourages more forum content.
I.. don't mean your posts ofc. The Muppets: P+¦pc++rn (thanks Ria!) "So.. youre saying you cant create content.... because other people are out... creating content?" --United Arab Emirates |
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Najenna
Caldari Deep Space Ventures Black Core Alliance
15
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Posted - 2014.08.10 07:24:00 -
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I suggest that Destroyers follow the real life aspect of what a destroyer really is. Destroyers hunt for subs in real life. they use sonar. Why can't destroyers in Eve have the ability to find cloak ships. Destroyers and destroyers only should have this ablity along with its own module.
Just my .02 Isk |
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
3485
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Posted - 2014.08.10 07:24:00 -
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Touching edit; in the emotional sense nothing weird. Oh god. |
Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
3694
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Posted - 2014.08.10 07:26:00 -
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Paikis wrote:This thread comes up on almost a weekly basis. In fact, I'd be surprised if there wasn't a nerf cloaking thread in the first 2 pages on this forum section. Almost every single one of them goes like this:
1. OP posts a post with a new (lol) idea that always boils down to some variation of the following: - "There's a big meanie who is sitting in my system and not doing anything, but I don't know where he is and I can't ever just go next door. I can't find said meanie and even though I know that he's probably at work and poses no threat at all, I wont do anything in my system that I absolutely can't leave ever because he might not be at work and I might lose a ship. CCP please stop the meanie from being able to do nothing to me because he's probably at work"
2. Thread gets trolled because its been done literally to death. This horse has been beaten so hard and so often that it's little more than a memory of a memory of a red smear on the grass, and yet it STILL WONT DIE! In fact it's been done so many times that this particular horse is now undead; even if it does die, it will still be remembered and parodied.
3. Someone comes along and suggests that AFK cloakers can't hurt you, because they are, by their very definition, AFK. No one ever lost a ship to someone who ISN'T PLAYING THE GAME.
4. Someone else comes along and points out that while the cloaker might be AFK, he might not be, and so we have Schrodinger's Hot Dropper. The cyno pilot who might be AFK... but he might not be as well, and you will only know for sure when he decloaks, points and lights his candle. (Yes, I know this isn't how the cat works)
5. Someone else comes along and suggests that you use bait and setup a TARP. Or have a defence fleet on standby. Heaven forbid you have to actually fight to defend your space.
6. A further person comes along and suggests that the problem isn't cloaking AFK in your system that you can't possibly leave ever, but that you KNOW that the person is AFK in your system... and perhaps local should be removed because free 100% accurate intel is probably not the best thing in the game and if you didn't know that the big meanie was in your system, you wouldn't be worried about leaving the undock/POS.
7. Then another person pokes their head in and complains that local is 100% NEEDED because D-Scan and probing are such bad mechanics, and IF YOU TAKE MY LOCAL AWAY IM QUITTING FOREVER AND NO YOU CAN'T HAVE MY STUFF!
8. Someone asks if they can have 7's stuff.
We end up with another thread which goes on for pages and pages between complains about local, defence fleets, inability to just go next door, people who aren't playing the game but are playing the meta, lots of bickering and in the end nothing gets solved. CCP wont remove cloaking because it would mess with waaay too many things and it creates content (which is a good thing) by removing content (which is a bad thing) but they can't really think of any way to do it without a complete overhaul of the local and scanning systems.
Now that I've had this entire thread's conversation, can we just let it die? Please? link to the original =][= |
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
3488
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Posted - 2014.08.10 07:26:00 -
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Najenna wrote:I suggest that Destroyers follow the real life aspect of what a destroyer really is. Destroyers hunt for subs in real life. they use sonar. Why can't destroyers in Eve have the ability to find cloak ships. Destroyers and destroyers only should have this ablity along with its own module.
Just my .02 Isk Feel like I'm repeating myself but why are stealth bombers even in this game? They don't go underwater irl wtf. Also, destroyers aren't destroyers anymore irl. They just kept the name but they do something completely different now. Oh god. |
Arcelian
Metentis
147
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Posted - 2014.08.10 07:31:00 -
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Bow chica bow wow. |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
10986
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Posted - 2014.08.10 07:31:00 -
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Sibyyl wrote:Tippia wrote:Could changes be made in the forum terms of use? Namely, after posting yet another pointless, redundant, and uninformed AFK cloaker QQ thread, the user gets increasingly longer posting bans? Something like 1 day/1 week/1 month/perma should do it. No. In this particular case, irony should be applied such that the user can post freely as she could before but for the period of 1 day/1 week and so on, no one will see their posts or threads they create. Edit: Or have anyone else receive any notifications of their likes? Oooh, EVE-O forums shadownban/shun. I like it. No, this isn't it at all. Make it more... psssshhhh. |
Najenna
Caldari Deep Space Ventures Black Core Alliance
15
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Posted - 2014.08.10 07:36:00 -
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Riot Girl wrote:Najenna wrote:I suggest that Destroyers follow the real life aspect of what a destroyer really is. Destroyers hunt for subs in real life. they use sonar. Why can't destroyers in Eve have the ability to find cloak ships. Destroyers and destroyers only should have this ablity along with its own module.
Just my .02 Isk Feel like I'm repeating myself but why are stealth bombers even in this game? They don't go underwater irl wtf. Also, destroyers aren't destroyers anymore irl. They just kept the name but they do something completely different now.
You are accurate to a point. Submarines and destroyers still hunt for other subs. But still destroyers were the front line defense against subs in naval warfare. Just like how our carriers in game don't have any type of AA on them but in real life Carriers have AA on them.
I know Eve is not real but warfare is warfare no matter if its real life or in game. 1 ship AKA the cloaker should not have to the ability as a single ship to shut down a system. To me that is over powered. I understand and respect the fact that local shouldn't be used as a intel channel. If local wasn't there you wouldn't know if you had a cloaker in system.
Yes D-scan and scanning mechanics are borked and are still lame after many revamps.
I was just saying to give the destroyer or the tech 2 variant a role. This would actually be a good thing. Afk cloakers now actually have to play and destroyer sales will go up and the forum war on cloakers will be over.
A new war will start and it will be the war on destroyers from all the cloakers crying " Oh my ship was blown up while I was afk at work". |
Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
3695
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Posted - 2014.08.10 07:40:00 -
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Najenna wrote:Riot Girl wrote:Najenna wrote:I suggest that Destroyers follow the real life aspect of what a destroyer really is. Destroyers hunt for subs in real life. they use sonar. Why can't destroyers in Eve have the ability to find cloak ships. Destroyers and destroyers only should have this ablity along with its own module.
Just my .02 Isk Feel like I'm repeating myself but why are stealth bombers even in this game? They don't go underwater irl wtf. Also, destroyers aren't destroyers anymore irl. They just kept the name but they do something completely different now. You are accurate to a point. Sub and destroyers still hunt for other subs. But still Destroyers were the front line defense against subs in naval warfare. Just like how our carriers in game don't have any type of AA on them but in real life Carriers have AA on them. I know Eve is not real But warfare is warfare no matter if its real life or in game. 1 ship AKA the Cloaker should not have to the ability as a single ship to shut down a system. To me that is over powered. But i understand and respect the fact that local shouldn't be used as a intel channel. If local was there you wouldn't know if you had a cloaker in system. Yes D-scan and scanning mechanics are borked and are still lame after many revamps. I was just saying to give the destroyer or the tech 2 variant a role. This would actually be a good thing. Afk cloakers now actually have to play and destroyer sales will go up and the forum war on cloakers will be over. A new war will start and it will be the war on destroyers from all the cloakers crying " Oh my ship was blown up while I was afk at work". they cant, its psychological warfare that does that. =][= |
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
3488
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Posted - 2014.08.10 07:42:00 -
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Ugh, love psychological warfare. Local really is a powerful tool. Oh god. |
ImYourMom
Republic University Minmatar Republic
50
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Posted - 2014.08.10 07:47:00 -
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perhaps this guy isnt a forum wh0re like yourselves and only comes now and again. Stop being trolls and just be nice, is it really that hard? to the OP, the has indeed been discussed lots of times, and lots of people want change sadly its mentioned that mucn, and the fact nothing has changed its a bit of a taboo subject which in turn just annoys people. One day CCP will listen....One day... |
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Najenna
Caldari Deep Space Ventures Black Core Alliance
15
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Posted - 2014.08.10 07:49:00 -
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Well I have spoken my mind and gave my .02 isk. the way i see it CCP has 3 choices.
1) Make cloaking modules use a fuel.
2) Create a ship or give a ship ( destroyer ) theabilty to hunt cloak ships.
3) Remove cloak from game entirely.
I know 3 isn't going to happen. So CCP really has 2 choices. But this is a issue that has been going on since Cloaking was introduced to the game.
So like everyone else says in New Eden. Addapt or move along to another MMO. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
8670
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Posted - 2014.08.10 07:49:00 -
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ImYourMom wrote:perhaps this guy isnt a forum wh0re like yourselves and only comes now and again. Stop being trolls and just be nice, is it really that hard?
Is it really that hard to read the forum rules? "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Clean Up Local 2014.-á |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
10991
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Posted - 2014.08.10 07:50:00 -
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Najenna wrote:the way i see it CCP has 3 choices.
1) Make cloaking modules use a fuel.
2) Create a ship or give a ship ( destroyer ) theabilty to hunt cloak ships.
3) Remove cloak from game entirely.
I know 3 isn't going to happen. So CCP really has 2 choices. But this is a issue that has been going on since Cloaking was introduced to the game.
So like everyone else says in New Eden. Addapt or move along to another MMO. 4) Do nothing. No, this isn't it at all. Make it more... psssshhhh. |
Prince Kobol
2018
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Posted - 2014.08.10 07:52:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Najenna wrote:the way i see it CCP has 3 choices.
1) Make cloaking modules use a fuel.
2) Create a ship or give a ship ( destroyer ) theabilty to hunt cloak ships.
3) Remove cloak from game entirely.
I know 3 isn't going to happen. So CCP really has 2 choices. But this is a issue that has been going on since Cloaking was introduced to the game.
So like everyone else says in New Eden. Addapt or move along to another MMO. 4) Do nothing.
Pretty sure option 4 is the best option here |
DeadDuck
Viziam Amarr Empire
87
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Posted - 2014.08.10 07:52:00 -
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Red-Black-Frog wrote:hi
You can do something about it?
No but you can, just go to the system 1 jump away
Since we are in a stupid requests tread I have another one for CCP:
I'm trying to catch people running anomalies in 0.0 systems but as soon I enter system they warp out . Can CCP introduce a new mechanic in wich people running anomalies are frozen in their position as soon hostiles enter system so I can warp in and do what ever I want ?
Why?
We now have the ridiculous situation where someone can warp out from anomalies when feeling threaten, which is absurd.
Can you do something about it? |
Arcelian
Metentis
148
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Posted - 2014.08.10 07:53:00 -
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On a more serious note, I do think cloakies are a bit OP, people try to justify it, saying it ties up that account that is sitting there doing nothing..... which is true.
I don't know, the great thing about eve is that no matter what someone or a group of someones do, you can stop them in one way or another, where as with cloak, you are unkillable until the time of your choosing. Doesn't seem very eve-like. |
Najenna
Caldari Deep Space Ventures Black Core Alliance
15
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Posted - 2014.08.10 07:55:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Najenna wrote:the way i see it CCP has 3 choices.
1) Make cloaking modules use a fuel.
2) Create a ship or give a ship ( destroyer ) theabilty to hunt cloak ships.
3) Remove cloak from game entirely.
I know 3 isn't going to happen. So CCP really has 2 choices. But this is a issue that has been going on since Cloaking was introduced to the game.
So like everyone else says in New Eden. Adapt or move along to another MMO. 4) Do nothing.
Do you have nothing better to do than follow me everywhere I go? Are you attracted to me? Did I pee in your cereal?
BTW 4) Do nothing is what they have been doing since this war on cloakers has started. The day will come were Cloakers and poor defenseless cyno pilots are fixed.
You all said they would NEVER give jump freighters or freighters any type of fitting slots and look what has happened this year?
So yea I see changes to Cyno pilots and Cloakers coming soon (TM) |
Yarda Black
The Black Redemption
341
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Posted - 2014.08.10 07:56:00 -
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You mean you have an issue with random alts that cant be scanned, probed or even interacted with until they decide to drop their little cloak of invulnerability? IF they're even in the same town as their computer that is.
Yeah. Agreed. I prefer a fueled cloak. Let the paranoia fans who make entire systems rage keep their toy and tear-extraction. Get rid of AFK. |
Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
4127
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Posted - 2014.08.10 07:59:00 -
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This thread again? Really? Already? Wasn't the last one locked like less than 24 hours ago?
Anyway, relevant.
Also, IB4L for redundant shitposting. GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104 |
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
3489
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Posted - 2014.08.10 07:59:00 -
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Arcelian wrote:On a more serious note, I do think cloakies are a bit OP, people try to justify it, saying it ties up that account that is sitting there doing nothing..... which is true.
I don't know, the great thing about eve is that no matter what someone or a group of someones do, you can stop them in one way or another, where as with cloak, you are unkillable until the time of your choosing. Doesn't seem very eve-like. And my counter-argument, as usual, is that you have a station to dock up in.
Oh god. |
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Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
3489
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Posted - 2014.08.10 08:00:00 -
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Yarda Black wrote:You mean you have an issue with random alts that cant be scanned, probed or even interacted with until they decide to drop their little cloak of invulnerability? You're talking about the guys in the station right zzz. Getting kinda bored of this. Oh god. |
Prince Kobol
2018
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Posted - 2014.08.10 08:02:00 -
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Arcelian wrote:On a more serious note, I do think cloakies are a bit OP, people try to justify it, saying it ties up that account that is sitting there doing nothing..... which is true.
I don't know, the great thing about eve is that no matter what someone or a group of someones do, you can stop them in one way or another, where as with cloak, you are unkillable until the time of your choosing. Doesn't seem very eve-like.
Why are they OP? |
Najenna
Caldari Deep Space Ventures Black Core Alliance
15
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Posted - 2014.08.10 08:02:00 -
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Riot Girl wrote:Arcelian wrote:On a more serious note, I do think cloakies are a bit OP, people try to justify it, saying it ties up that account that is sitting there doing nothing..... which is true.
I don't know, the great thing about eve is that no matter what someone or a group of someones do, you can stop them in one way or another, where as with cloak, you are unkillable until the time of your choosing. Doesn't seem very eve-like. And my counter-argument, as usual, is that you have a station to dock up in.
My counter to your counter. Careful not trying to cross MOJO's here.
Not all systems have station in them. Plenty of low sec and 0.0 systems where there aren't any stations. |
Arcelian
Metentis
150
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Posted - 2014.08.10 08:03:00 -
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Riot Girl wrote:Arcelian wrote:On a more serious note, I do think cloakies are a bit OP, people try to justify it, saying it ties up that account that is sitting there doing nothing..... which is true.
I don't know, the great thing about eve is that no matter what someone or a group of someones do, you can stop them in one way or another, where as with cloak, you are unkillable until the time of your choosing. Doesn't seem very eve-like. And my counter-argument, as usual, is that you have a station to dock up in.
You don't dock up, you warp to the POS. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
8670
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Posted - 2014.08.10 08:03:00 -
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Arcelian wrote: I don't know, the great thing about eve is that no matter what someone or a group of someones do, you can stop them in one way or another, where as with cloak, you are unkillable until the time of your choosing. Doesn't seem very eve-like.
You also cannot activate any modules. They literally cannot do anything.
Nevermind that the game is full of instances of people being decloaked by people who were smart enough about it.
Najenna wrote: Not all systems have station in them. Plenty of low sec and 0.0 systems where there aren't any stations.
So what? "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Clean Up Local 2014.-á |
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
3489
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Posted - 2014.08.10 08:04:00 -
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Najenna wrote:Riot Girl wrote:Arcelian wrote:On a more serious note, I do think cloakies are a bit OP, people try to justify it, saying it ties up that account that is sitting there doing nothing..... which is true.
I don't know, the great thing about eve is that no matter what someone or a group of someones do, you can stop them in one way or another, where as with cloak, you are unkillable until the time of your choosing. Doesn't seem very eve-like. And my counter-argument, as usual, is that you have a station to dock up in. My counter to your counter. Careful not trying to cross MOJO's here. Not all systems have station in them. Plenty of low sec and 0.0 systems where there aren't any stations.
Cool! And now you can play.
Oh god. |
Prince Kobol
2018
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Posted - 2014.08.10 08:04:00 -
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Najenna wrote:Well I have spoken my mind and gave my .02 isk. the way i see it CCP has 3 choices.
1) Make cloaking modules use a fuel.
2) Create a ship or give a ship ( destroyer ) theabilty to hunt cloak ships.
3) Remove cloak from game entirely.
I know 3 isn't going to happen. So CCP really has 2 choices. But this is a issue that has been going on since Cloaking was introduced to the game.
So like everyone else says in New Eden. Addapt or move along to another MMO.
Why does CCP only have the choices which you have declared? Are you that special of a player that CCP can you do what you suggest?
Also if you show everybody a killmail by a afk clocker then I will concede you have point, until there is nothing to talk about |
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
3489
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Posted - 2014.08.10 08:05:00 -
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Arcelian wrote:Riot Girl wrote:Arcelian wrote:On a more serious note, I do think cloakies are a bit OP, people try to justify it, saying it ties up that account that is sitting there doing nothing..... which is true.
I don't know, the great thing about eve is that no matter what someone or a group of someones do, you can stop them in one way or another, where as with cloak, you are unkillable until the time of your choosing. Doesn't seem very eve-like. And my counter-argument, as usual, is that you have a station to dock up in. You don't dock up, you warp to the POS. Ah, that's where I've been going wrong. brb bubbling POSes. Oh god. |
Arcelian
Metentis
150
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Posted - 2014.08.10 08:05:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:Arcelian wrote:On a more serious note, I do think cloakies are a bit OP, people try to justify it, saying it ties up that account that is sitting there doing nothing..... which is true.
I don't know, the great thing about eve is that no matter what someone or a group of someones do, you can stop them in one way or another, where as with cloak, you are unkillable until the time of your choosing. Doesn't seem very eve-like. Why are they OP?
You can't kill them. You can't find them. They occupy the system as long as they please, and there is absolutely nothing you can do about it.
I'm not gonna beat this horse though, CCP knows, or if they don't, god help us all. |
Arcelian
Metentis
151
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Posted - 2014.08.10 08:06:00 -
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Riot Girl wrote:Arcelian wrote:Riot Girl wrote:Arcelian wrote:On a more serious note, I do think cloakies are a bit OP, people try to justify it, saying it ties up that account that is sitting there doing nothing..... which is true.
I don't know, the great thing about eve is that no matter what someone or a group of someones do, you can stop them in one way or another, where as with cloak, you are unkillable until the time of your choosing. Doesn't seem very eve-like. And my counter-argument, as usual, is that you have a station to dock up in. You don't dock up, you warp to the POS. Ah, that's where I've been going wrong. brb bubbling POSes.
Just look out for those guns. Pew pew. |
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Prince Kobol
2018
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Posted - 2014.08.10 08:07:00 -
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Arcelian wrote:Prince Kobol wrote:Arcelian wrote:On a more serious note, I do think cloakies are a bit OP, people try to justify it, saying it ties up that account that is sitting there doing nothing..... which is true.
I don't know, the great thing about eve is that no matter what someone or a group of someones do, you can stop them in one way or another, where as with cloak, you are unkillable until the time of your choosing. Doesn't seem very eve-like. Why are they OP? You can't kill them. You can't find them. They occupy the system as long as they please, and there is absolutely nothing you can do about it. I'm not gonna beat this horse though, CCP knows, or if they don't, god help us all.
Your right that they can stay in system as long as they like but tell everybody what they can do whilst they are cloaked? |
Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
3698
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Posted - 2014.08.10 08:08:00 -
[42] - Quote
I think threads like this prove that we actually need more varied ways to wage warfare on the febel minded risk averse =][= |
Najenna
Caldari Deep Space Ventures Black Core Alliance
15
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Posted - 2014.08.10 08:08:00 -
[43] - Quote
Prince Kobol wrote:Najenna wrote:Well I have spoken my mind and gave my .02 isk. the way i see it CCP has 3 choices.
1) Make cloaking modules use a fuel.
2) Create a ship or give a ship ( destroyer ) theabilty to hunt cloak ships.
3) Remove cloak from game entirely.
I know 3 isn't going to happen. So CCP really has 2 choices. But this is a issue that has been going on since Cloaking was introduced to the game.
So like everyone else says in New Eden. Addapt or move along to another MMO. Why does CCP only have the choices which you have declared? Are you that special of a player that CCP can you do what you suggest? Also if you show everybody a killmail by a afk clocker then I will concede you have point, until there is nothing to talk about
Fair enough. CCP has many choices but in reality there can only be one. Either way it goes someone will be pissed at teh end of this war. Either cloakers win and nothing is done to them, or people asking CCP for a fix win and cloakers get pissed. Either way someone is going to be pissed |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
8674
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Posted - 2014.08.10 08:09:00 -
[44] - Quote
Arcelian wrote: You can't kill them. You can't find them. They occupy the system as long as they please, and there is absolutely nothing you can do about it.
So what? They can't hurt you, either.
You're asking to have uncertainty removed, and that will never happen. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Clean Up Local 2014.-á |
Arcelian
Metentis
151
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Posted - 2014.08.10 08:09:00 -
[45] - Quote
Prince Kobol wrote:Arcelian wrote:Prince Kobol wrote:Arcelian wrote:On a more serious note, I do think cloakies are a bit OP, people try to justify it, saying it ties up that account that is sitting there doing nothing..... which is true.
I don't know, the great thing about eve is that no matter what someone or a group of someones do, you can stop them in one way or another, where as with cloak, you are unkillable until the time of your choosing. Doesn't seem very eve-like. Why are they OP? You can't kill them. You can't find them. They occupy the system as long as they please, and there is absolutely nothing you can do about it. I'm not gonna beat this horse though, CCP knows, or if they don't, god help us all. Your right that they can stay in system as long as they like but tell everybody what they can do whilst they are cloaked?
As I said before, I'm not gonna beat this horse. This horse has been beaten enough. It's really just a faded grease spot speckled with some bone dust at this point. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
8674
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Posted - 2014.08.10 08:10:00 -
[46] - Quote
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:I think threads like this prove that we actually need more varied ways to wage warfare on the febel minded risk averse
I suggest a deployable that mimics your own name in local until the next downtime. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Clean Up Local 2014.-á |
Prince Kobol
2018
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Posted - 2014.08.10 08:11:00 -
[47] - Quote
Najenna wrote:Prince Kobol wrote:Najenna wrote:Well I have spoken my mind and gave my .02 isk. the way i see it CCP has 3 choices.
1) Make cloaking modules use a fuel.
2) Create a ship or give a ship ( destroyer ) theabilty to hunt cloak ships.
3) Remove cloak from game entirely.
I know 3 isn't going to happen. So CCP really has 2 choices. But this is a issue that has been going on since Cloaking was introduced to the game.
So like everyone else says in New Eden. Addapt or move along to another MMO. Why does CCP only have the choices which you have declared? Are you that special of a player that CCP can you do what you suggest? Also if you show everybody a killmail by a afk clocker then I will concede you have point, until there is nothing to talk about Fair enough. CCP has many choices but in reality there can only be one. Either way it goes someone will be pissed at teh end of this war. Either cloakers win and nothing is done to them, or people asking CCP for a fix win and cloakers get pissed. Either way someone is going to be pissed
Why can there only be one?
Also there is no war.
All we have is people who are scared of other players. |
Arcelian
Metentis
151
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Posted - 2014.08.10 08:12:00 -
[48] - Quote
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Arcelian wrote: You can't kill them. You can't find them. They occupy the system as long as they please, and there is absolutely nothing you can do about it.
So what? They can't hurt you, either. You're asking to have uncertainty removed, and that will never happen.
When did I ever ask for ANYTHING to be removed?
This has been discussed at length, stop trying to suck me in you vultures. |
Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
3698
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Posted - 2014.08.10 08:12:00 -
[49] - Quote
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:I think threads like this prove that we actually need more varied ways to wage warfare on the febel minded risk averse I suggest a deployable that mimics your own name in local until the next downtime. ghost cynos and or dscan sigs =][= |
Najenna
Caldari Deep Space Ventures Black Core Alliance
15
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Posted - 2014.08.10 08:12:00 -
[50] - Quote
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:I think threads like this prove that we actually need more varied ways to wage warfare on the febel minded risk averse I suggest a deployable that mimics your own name in local until the next downtime.
Honestly I was also thinking something along those lines. A deployable module or a P.O.S. module or Sov. module that prevents cloakers kinda the same as a cyno jammer. |
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
8674
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Posted - 2014.08.10 08:13:00 -
[51] - Quote
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:I think threads like this prove that we actually need more varied ways to wage warfare on the febel minded risk averse I suggest a deployable that mimics your own name in local until the next downtime. ghost cynos and or dscan sigs
Yep. Has absolutely no purpose besides screwing with renters. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Clean Up Local 2014.-á |
Prince Kobol
2018
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Posted - 2014.08.10 08:13:00 -
[52] - Quote
Arcelian wrote:Prince Kobol wrote:Arcelian wrote:Prince Kobol wrote:Arcelian wrote:On a more serious note, I do think cloakies are a bit OP, people try to justify it, saying it ties up that account that is sitting there doing nothing..... which is true.
I don't know, the great thing about eve is that no matter what someone or a group of someones do, you can stop them in one way or another, where as with cloak, you are unkillable until the time of your choosing. Doesn't seem very eve-like. Why are they OP? You can't kill them. You can't find them. They occupy the system as long as they please, and there is absolutely nothing you can do about it. I'm not gonna beat this horse though, CCP knows, or if they don't, god help us all. Your right that they can stay in system as long as they like but tell everybody what they can do whilst they are cloaked? As I said before, I'm not gonna beat this horse. This horse has been beaten enough. It's really just a faded grease spot speckled with some bone dust at this point.
You saying can keep saying your not going to beat this horse as much as you like but it does not change fact that whilst a ship is cloaked it can not do you any harm what so ever.
The only thing a ship can do whilst it is cloaked is fly about. It can not shoot, it can not active any module, it can not deploy any structure. It is zero threat whilst cloak. |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
10992
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Posted - 2014.08.10 08:14:00 -
[53] - Quote
Najenna wrote:Do you have nothing better to do than follow me everywhere I go? Are you attracted to me? Did I pee in your cereal? I don't follow anyone around, much less some insignificant character I don't even remember having interacted with prior.
Najenna wrote:BTW 4) Do nothing is what they have been doing since this war on cloakers has started. The day will come were Cloakers and poor defenseless cyno pilots are fixed. I don't see a "war on cloakers". I just see a handful of people whining.
Najenna wrote:You all said they would NEVER give jump freighters or freighters any type of fitting slots and look what has happened this year?
So yea I see changes to Cyno pilots and Cloakers coming soon (TM) "You predicted X wouldn't happen, and X happened. Therefore since you predict Y won't happen, Y will happen." Not exactly a sound argument. No, this isn't it at all. Make it more... psssshhhh. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
8674
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Posted - 2014.08.10 08:15:00 -
[54] - Quote
Najenna wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:I think threads like this prove that we actually need more varied ways to wage warfare on the febel minded risk averse I suggest a deployable that mimics your own name in local until the next downtime. Honestly I was also thinking something along those lines. A deployable module or a P.O.S. module or Sov. module that prevents cloakers kinda the same as a cyno jammer.
I think there are actually some direct dev statements out there that said "**** no!" to these exact ideas.
You lot need to face facts, you don't get to have all the uncertainty removed, you are not entitled to rat in peace, you are not entitled to be left alone.
This is an MMO. If other players scare you so freaking much, then get your cowardly arse back to highsec where the risk averse pubbies belong. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Clean Up Local 2014.-á |
Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
3698
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Posted - 2014.08.10 08:15:00 -
[55] - Quote
Najenna wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:I think threads like this prove that we actually need more varied ways to wage warfare on the febel minded risk averse I suggest a deployable that mimics your own name in local until the next downtime. Honestly I was also thinking something along those lines. A deployable module or a P.O.S. module or Sov. module that prevents cloakers kinda the same as a cyno jammer. you already have counters for the afk cloker, Namely not being a whiny coward about it and carry on. =][= |
Prince Kobol
2018
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Posted - 2014.08.10 08:15:00 -
[56] - Quote
Najenna wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:I think threads like this prove that we actually need more varied ways to wage warfare on the febel minded risk averse I suggest a deployable that mimics your own name in local until the next downtime. Honestly I was also thinking something along those lines. A deployable module or a P.O.S. module or Sov. module that prevents cloakers kinda the same as a cyno jammer.
Whilst were at it why not have a something that prevents any weapons from firing or from any prop module from working. |
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
3491
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Posted - 2014.08.10 08:19:00 -
[57] - Quote
Yes, thanks. Off grid bubbles it is. Oh god. |
Najenna
Caldari Deep Space Ventures Black Core Alliance
15
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Posted - 2014.08.10 08:28:00 -
[58] - Quote
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Najenna wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:I think threads like this prove that we actually need more varied ways to wage warfare on the febel minded risk averse I suggest a deployable that mimics your own name in local until the next downtime. Honestly I was also thinking something along those lines. A deployable module or a P.O.S. module or Sov. module that prevents cloakers kinda the same as a cyno jammer. you already have counters for the afk cloker, Namely not being a whiny coward about it and carry on.
First off stop while your ahead. Secondly I am not whining. Thirdly I have done nothing but give constructive imput. I don't whine **** or moan. So get your facts right. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
8677
|
Posted - 2014.08.10 08:30:00 -
[59] - Quote
Najenna wrote:Thirdly I have done nothing but give constructive imput.
Oh, come now. Everyone here knows that is a lie. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Clean Up Local 2014.-á |
Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
3701
|
Posted - 2014.08.10 08:32:00 -
[60] - Quote
Najenna wrote: First off stop while your ahead. Secondly I am not whining. Thirdly I have done nothing but give constructive imput. I don't whine **** or moan. So get your facts right.
proposing changes to game mechanics (in this context) is about the biggest form of whine i could imagine. =][= |
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Najenna
Caldari Deep Space Ventures Black Core Alliance
15
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Posted - 2014.08.10 08:33:00 -
[61] - Quote
Prince Kobol wrote:Najenna wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:I think threads like this prove that we actually need more varied ways to wage warfare on the febel minded risk averse I suggest a deployable that mimics your own name in local until the next downtime. Honestly I was also thinking something along those lines. A deployable module or a P.O.S. module or Sov. module that prevents cloakers kinda the same as a cyno jammer. Whilst were at it why not have a something that prevents any weapons from firing or from any prop module from working.
They do... It is called a target scrambler. It prevents you from targeting other ships. Also there is this thing called a warp jammer and stasis web. Nice fail try again please. |
Najenna
Caldari Deep Space Ventures Black Core Alliance
15
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Posted - 2014.08.10 08:37:00 -
[62] - Quote
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Najenna wrote: First off stop while your ahead. Secondly I am not whining. Thirdly I have done nothing but give constructive imput. I don't whine **** or moan. So get your facts right.
proposing changes to game mechanics (in this context) is about the biggest form of whine i could imagine.
Man please go back to school. I am in no way complaining crying or whinning as you put it. I am giving constructive imput. |
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
3492
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Posted - 2014.08.10 08:42:00 -
[63] - Quote
Kawaiiii :3
Oh god. |
Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
4128
|
Posted - 2014.08.10 08:51:00 -
[64] - Quote
Najenna wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Najenna wrote: First off stop while your ahead. Secondly I am not whining. Thirdly I have done nothing but give constructive imput. I don't whine **** or moan. So get your facts right.
proposing changes to game mechanics (in this context) is about the biggest form of whine i could imagine. Man please go back to school. I am in no way complaining crying or whinning as you put it. I am giving constructive imput.
Don't tell people to go back to school if you can't get basic 5th grade literacy right. 'Your' implies ownerships; 'you're' is a compound word for 'you are'. 'You're' an idiot if you can't get them right. GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104 |
Najenna
Caldari Deep Space Ventures Black Core Alliance
15
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Posted - 2014.08.10 08:54:00 -
[65] - Quote
Remiel Pollard wrote:Najenna wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Najenna wrote: First off stop while your ahead. Secondly I am not whining. Thirdly I have done nothing but give constructive imput. I don't whine **** or moan. So get your facts right.
proposing changes to game mechanics (in this context) is about the biggest form of whine i could imagine. Man please go back to school. I am in no way complaining crying or whinning as you put it. I am giving constructive imput. Don't tell people to go back to school if you can't get basic 5th grade literacy right. 'Your' implies ownerships; 'you're' is a compound word for 'you are'. 'You're' an idiot if you can't get them right.
Didn't know that Eve required you to have a degree or diploma. Cause if that is the case why are you here again? |
Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
4128
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Posted - 2014.08.10 08:55:00 -
[66] - Quote
Najenna wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:Najenna wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Najenna wrote: First off stop while your ahead. Secondly I am not whining. Thirdly I have done nothing but give constructive imput. I don't whine **** or moan. So get your facts right.
proposing changes to game mechanics (in this context) is about the biggest form of whine i could imagine. Man please go back to school. I am in no way complaining crying or whinning as you put it. I am giving constructive imput. Don't tell people to go back to school if you can't get basic 5th grade literacy right. 'Your' implies ownerships; 'you're' is a compound word for 'you are'. 'You're' an idiot if you can't get them right. Didn't know that Eve required you to have a degree or diploma. Cause if that is the case why are you here again?
Pay attention - 5th grade literacy doesn't require a degree or diploma, and YOU were the one telling people to go back to school, hypocrite. GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104 |
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
3493
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Posted - 2014.08.10 08:56:00 -
[67] - Quote
Remiel is one of the smart guys, be wary if you choose to challenge him. Oh god. |
Najenna
Caldari Deep Space Ventures Black Core Alliance
15
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Posted - 2014.08.10 08:58:00 -
[68] - Quote
I came, I saw, I gave my 2 isk. I am out of this thread. |
Shederov Blood
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
1366
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Posted - 2014.08.10 09:03:00 -
[69] - Quote
Sibyyl wrote:Sometimes I hit like on the awful posts because it encourages more forum content. Explains a lot.
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Linus Gorp
Ministry of Propaganda and Morale Black Marker
24
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Posted - 2014.08.10 09:10:00 -
[70] - Quote
Slipping in before the lock. When you don't know the difference between there, their, and they're, you come across as being so uneducated that your viewpoint can be safely dismissed. The literate is unlikely to learn much from the aliterate. |
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
20029
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Posted - 2014.08.10 11:39:00 -
[71] - Quote
Linus Gorp wrote:Slipping in before the lock. Also slipping in (fnarr fnarr) before the inevitable lock of AFK cloaking whine thread #2147483647.
Najenna wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote: Don't tell people to go back to school if you can't get basic 5th grade literacy right. 'Your' implies ownerships; 'you're' is a compound word for 'you are'. 'You're' an idiot if you can't get them right.
Didn't know that Eve required you to have a degree or diploma. Cause if that is the case why are you here again? Grammar
Obligatory popcorn Never hold your farts in. They travel up your spine and into the brain, where they ferment. They then migrate to your keyboard via your fingers. That's where shiptoasts come from.
Nil mortifi sine lucre. |
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
1425
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Posted - 2014.08.10 12:08:00 -
[72] - Quote
Red-Black-Frog wrote:making it impossible to play another. You mean you are too scared to carebear when someone is watching. Try having sex in public, it helps to prepare you for this particular predicament. I recommend a club with a bubblebath to cuddle in for your first time. |
Hevymetal
Eve Defence Force Cult of War
342
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Posted - 2014.08.10 12:44:00 -
[73] - Quote
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Paikis wrote:This thread comes up on almost a weekly basis. In fact, I'd be surprised if there wasn't a nerf cloaking thread in the first 2 pages on this forum section. Almost every single one of them goes like this:
1. OP posts a post with a new (lol) idea that always boils down to some variation of the following: - "There's a big meanie who is sitting in my system and not doing anything, but I don't know where he is and I can't ever just go next door. I can't find said meanie and even though I know that he's probably at work and poses no threat at all, I wont do anything in my system that I absolutely can't leave ever because he might not be at work and I might lose a ship. CCP please stop the meanie from being able to do nothing to me because he's probably at work"
2. Thread gets trolled because its been done literally to death. This horse has been beaten so hard and so often that it's little more than a memory of a memory of a red smear on the grass, and yet it STILL WONT DIE! In fact it's been done so many times that this particular horse is now undead; even if it does die, it will still be remembered and parodied.
3. Someone comes along and suggests that AFK cloakers can't hurt you, because they are, by their very definition, AFK. No one ever lost a ship to someone who ISN'T PLAYING THE GAME.
4. Someone else comes along and points out that while the cloaker might be AFK, he might not be, and so we have Schrodinger's Hot Dropper. The cyno pilot who might be AFK... but he might not be as well, and you will only know for sure when he decloaks, points and lights his candle. (Yes, I know this isn't how the cat works)
5. Someone else comes along and suggests that you use bait and setup a TARP. Or have a defence fleet on standby. Heaven forbid you have to actually fight to defend your space.
6. A further person comes along and suggests that the problem isn't cloaking AFK in your system that you can't possibly leave ever, but that you KNOW that the person is AFK in your system... and perhaps local should be removed because free 100% accurate intel is probably not the best thing in the game and if you didn't know that the big meanie was in your system, you wouldn't be worried about leaving the undock/POS.
7. Then another person pokes their head in and complains that local is 100% NEEDED because D-Scan and probing are such bad mechanics, and IF YOU TAKE MY LOCAL AWAY IM QUITTING FOREVER AND NO YOU CAN'T HAVE MY STUFF!
8. Someone asks if they can have 7's stuff.
We end up with another thread which goes on for pages and pages between complains about local, defence fleets, inability to just go next door, people who aren't playing the game but are playing the meta, lots of bickering and in the end nothing gets solved. CCP wont remove cloaking because it would mess with waaay too many things and it creates content (which is a good thing) by removing content (which is a bad thing) but they can't really think of any way to do it without a complete overhaul of the local and scanning systems.
Now that I've had this entire thread's conversation, can we just let it die? Please? link to the original
/thread
If an AFK cloaker is preventing you from playing Eve, maybe you are playing the wrong game.
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Gallowmere Rorschach
Enlightened Industries Goonswarm Federation
662
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Posted - 2014.08.10 12:50:00 -
[74] - Quote
Since this will be locked anyway, I feel no need to give constructive feedback.
I just wanted to stop by to say that it was amusing how hard Remiel just bitchslapped you. |
De'Veldrin
Black Fox Marauders Repeat 0ffenders
2813
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Posted - 2014.08.10 12:58:00 -
[75] - Quote
Tippia wrote:Could changes be made in the forum terms of use? Namely, after posting yet another pointless, redundant, and uninformed AFK cloaker QQ thread, the user gets increasingly longer posting bans? Something like 1 day/1 week/1 month/perma should do it.
I would agree as long as we skill the 1 day and 1 week levels. De'Veldrin's Corallary (to Malcanis' Law): Any idea that seeks to limit the ability of a large nullsec bloc to do something in the name of allowing more small groups into sov null will inevitably make it that much harder for small groups to enter sov null. |
Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders Repeat 0ffenders
1776
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Posted - 2014.08.10 13:21:00 -
[76] - Quote
Easy solution. Log on an alt of your own in a fast frigate. Double-click in a random direction, turn on mwd, go afk.
I don't remember the exact figure, but you have a very high chance of decloaking him within a few hours. Make space glamorous! Is EVE dying or not? Ask the EVE-O Death-o-meter! |
Billy McCandless
The McCandless Clan
382
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Posted - 2014.08.10 13:23:00 -
[77] - Quote
Najenna wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:
Don't tell people to go back to school if you can't get basic 5th grade literacy right. 'Your' implies ownerships; 'you're' is a compound word for 'you are'. 'You're' an idiot if you can't get them right.
Didn't know that Eve required you to have a degree or diploma. Cause if that is the case why are you here again?
Ahm eye do rite gud?
eye yam compleatlee shelf taut "Thread locked for being deemed a total loss." - ISD Ezwal |
Jacob Holland
Weyland-Vulcan Industries
299
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Posted - 2014.08.10 14:14:00 -
[78] - Quote
Najenna wrote: I know Eve is not real but warfare is warfare no matter if its real life or in game. 1 ship AKA the cloaker should not have to the ability as a single ship to shut down a system.
The single ship plays the role of the assassin (or crazy with a rifle). It's overpowered that you have to have police escorts, streets closed and buildings cleared, have a close protection detail and nothing might happen...
That is if really want a real world analogy.
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Owen Levanth
Sagittarius Unlimited Exploration
231
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Posted - 2014.08.10 14:30:00 -
[79] - Quote
Red-Black-Frog wrote:hi
Could changes in the changes of cloaking module ? Namely, after 1h of turned on (or around that time) was the possibility of such a ship scan combat probs.
Why? We now have the ridiculous situation where someone logs in the system immediately after DT, and that character is in it for the next DT, which is absurd. Improved situation in null sec, where AFK lamp, can be in the system for several months, making it impossible to play another. You can do something about it?
Ps. sorry for my english o7
It's also absurd that you can see everyone in a system, but that's beside the point.
My reaction to your post: Not again uuuuugggggghhh |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
23853
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Posted - 2014.08.10 14:47:00 -
[80] - Quote
Najenna wrote: I know Eve is not real but warfare is warfare no matter if its real life or in game. 1 ship AKA the cloaker should not have to the ability as a single ship to shut down a system. Good news: there is not aisngle ship in the game that can do that. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.2. |
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Owen Levanth
Sagittarius Unlimited Exploration
231
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Posted - 2014.08.10 14:58:00 -
[81] - Quote
Tippia wrote:Najenna wrote: I know Eve is not real but warfare is warfare no matter if its real life or in game. 1 ship AKA the cloaker should not have to the ability as a single ship to shut down a system. Good news: there is not aisngle ship in the game that can do that.
My Pilgrim did that once, but I wasn't AFK at the time. Was just dropping by via W-Space Express. |
Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
5885
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Posted - 2014.08.10 15:31:00 -
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ImYourMom wrote:perhaps this guy isnt a forum wh0re like yourselves and only comes now and again. Stop being trolls and just be nice, is it really that hard? to the OP, the has indeed been discussed lots of times, and lots of people want change sadly its mentioned that mucn, and the fact nothing has changed its a bit of a taboo subject which in turn just annoys people. One day CCP will listen....One day... You're right. It is uncommon for Internet forums to have a search function and one should have to be a forum "promiscuous person" to actually use it.
Should we be nice to you too after your unwarranted name calling, "Mom"? The Muppets: P+¦pc++rn (thanks Ria!) "So.. youre saying you cant create content.... because other people are out... creating content?" --United Arab Emirates |
IIshira
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Posted - 2014.08.10 16:00:00 -
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Sibyyl wrote:ImYourMom wrote:perhaps this guy isnt a forum wh0re like yourselves and only comes now and again. Stop being trolls and just be nice, is it really that hard? to the OP, the has indeed been discussed lots of times, and lots of people want change sadly its mentioned that mucn, and the fact nothing has changed its a bit of a taboo subject which in turn just annoys people. One day CCP will listen....One day... You're right. It is uncommon for Internet forums to have a search function and one should have to be a forum "promiscuous person" to actually use it. Should we be nice to you too after your unwarranted name calling, "Mom"?
Yea not like there's already a 100 threads on AFK cloaking already. I think ISD lock at least one a week. |
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
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Posted - 2014.08.10 16:38:00 -
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Quote:16. Redundant and re-posted threads will be locked.
As a courtesy to other forum users, please search to see if there is a thread already open on the topic you wish to discuss. If so, please place your comments there instead. Multiple threads on the same subject clutter up the forums needlessly, causing good feedback and ideas to be lost. Please keep discussions regarding a topic to a single thread. Thread #1965829367 on afk cloaking closed. ISD Dorrim Barstorlode Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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