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David Magnus
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Posted - 2011.11.23 21:49:00 -
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RougeOperator wrote:CCP Sreegs wrote:Awox Blueshooter wrote:CCP Sreegs wrote:
Actually I was asking you for feedback on how the system should be improved... It's an honest question as we want to be able to improve upon what we do. Who is this "we" you're referring to just so I'm clear?
we = ppl who pay REAL MONEY to play this game who dont like it when other ppl who just run incursions and pay isk to play get ccp devs flying to there doorstep to drop billions of loot. u have a history with goons and hearing this from u just confirms suspicions. there needs to be a ia investigation to make sure everything was done randomly or we cant trust u [email protected]They can sort you out. Mail sent asking for an investigation into this event. It was very unethical of CCP to have that loot in their ships.
Wow, dude, seriously.
It was just a fun event and they put a few fun things in their ships as an incentive for people to come fight them!
Have you ever thought that CCP didn't work to buy/make the ships they were flying like we did for ours?
It would be UNFAIR of them to not have extra loot to offset the risk we are taking vs. the NO RISK they were taking.
Also, Tama isn't anyone's territory. It's literally 3 jumps from Jita.
There isn't a single more fair place for them to have fought. ANYONE could have come because it was 3 jumps from Jita.
You are seriously an idiot.
Why are you so upset about this fun event where they went out of their way to make it fair for everyone?!
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Dravidshky
Legion of Nuggets
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Posted - 2011.11.23 21:51:00 -
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More than just spotted.
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Pat Irvam
15 Minute Outliers
Chained Reactions
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Posted - 2011.11.23 21:53:00 -
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ccp dont listen too these criers.
boo hoo no hs action and so much loot.
Get into null and whs and you will make that type of cash easy
boo hoo one location one time
It chance based like any other valuable thing in eve such as officer spawns
Keep up these events ccp they sound like a blast and keep listening to feedback and fixing things. I and several friends have been very impressed at how you are doing things lately post hilmar letter.
Hopefully next time I will be able to come get a ccp kill mail ( it would be more valuable to me then some plexes haha)
Also I hope someone frapsed this event. |
tgl3
Wormhole Engineers Review and Evaluation
Greater Realms
15
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Posted - 2011.11.23 21:53:00 -
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ITT people who didn't managed to get loot ***** about there being loot at all.
Awesome event CCP, it was amazing fun! I hope you do one again, though don't kick the first fleets arse too much next time :( |
buck herrick
101st Space Marine Force
Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2011.11.23 21:58:00 -
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props to CCP for taking the time and putting this together.
all you :mad: people need to remember this is a game, it is designed to be fun.
seriously - i wasn't there, got no loot and still enjoy the fact that occasionally ccp can 'make' some fun too.
its not like they are gonna do it everyday, now please stop the tears and fighting - and say: "thank you Mr. CCP"
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Grath Telkin
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
276
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Posted - 2011.11.23 21:59:00 -
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RougeOperator wrote:
Your post then shows that there was no need for the excessive loot.
Cry more ******.
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Linium
Super Batungwaa Ninja Warriors
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Posted - 2011.11.23 21:59:00 -
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Poor CCP can't seem to do anything right in some peoples eyes. Haters gonna hate CCP. Looked like a fun roam. |
Flinx Evenstar
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2011.11.23 21:59:00 -
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RougeOperator wrote:
Mail sent asking for an investigation into this event.
It was very unethical of CCP to have that loot in their ships.
Would you have found it ethical if you had looted a plex yourself.
Your anger is just about you feeling left out in a very generous display from CCP, try not to be so bitter in R/L as you are in a game.
I missed out on this as well, but instead of being all angry like you, I'd like to congratulate CCP for providing some excitement and content for us pod pilots and trying to share in the driving force behind EVE, which is pvp. The devs that died had fun, the people that got on their mails had fun, and lots of people got to see titans in action for the first time :)
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VinroC
Men in Black.
0
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Posted - 2011.11.23 21:59:00 -
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but ,,, but the PLEX! |
RougeOperator
Autocannons Anonymous
98
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Posted - 2011.11.23 22:00:00 -
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David Magnus wrote:RougeOperator wrote:CCP Sreegs wrote:Awox Blueshooter wrote:CCP Sreegs wrote:
Actually I was asking you for feedback on how the system should be improved... It's an honest question as we want to be able to improve upon what we do. Who is this "we" you're referring to just so I'm clear?
we = ppl who pay REAL MONEY to play this game who dont like it when other ppl who just run incursions and pay isk to play get ccp devs flying to there doorstep to drop billions of loot. u have a history with goons and hearing this from u just confirms suspicions. there needs to be a ia investigation to make sure everything was done randomly or we cant trust u [email protected]They can sort you out. Mail sent asking for an investigation into this event. It was very unethical of CCP to have that loot in their ships. Wow, dude, seriously. It was just a fun event and they put a few fun things in their ships as an incentive for people to come fight them! Have you ever thought that CCP didn't work to buy/make the ships they were flying like we did for ours? It would be UNFAIR of them to not have extra loot to offset the risk we are taking vs. the NO RISK they were taking. Also, Tama isn't anyone's territory. It's literally 3 jumps from Jita. There isn't a single more fair place for them to have fought. ANYONE could have come because it was 3 jumps from Jita. You are seriously an idiot. Why are you so upset about this fun event where they went out of their way to make it fair for everyone?!
I thought it was just about the KMs.
Upset that you might not get pinatas going forward? |
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HydroVolcano
Autocannons Anonymous
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Posted - 2011.11.23 22:01:00 -
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Linium wrote:Poor CCP can't seem to do anything right in some peoples eyes. Haters gonna hate CCP. Looked like a fun roam.
Doesn't look like they roamed at all. |
Dacada
Silent Service Limited
Northern Associates.
0
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Posted - 2011.11.23 22:01:00 -
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If you don't like events, stay out of them.
Thank you CCP, it was fun, there was loot, there was fleet fun for people that hadn't tried the fleets before.
There was pew pew, but above all, it reminded me of the old days. When my alt character lost it's Deimos, I was laughing, not shaking like I do in high value pvp.
Do this again, it brings back memories of the other great events you've put on, and the lack of them in the recent years.
Well done Gentlemen. |
Swearte Widfarend
Mortis Noir.
Unforgiving.
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Posted - 2011.11.23 22:01:00 -
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My single "complaint" would be that the timing was a bit skewed.
Two days from now (Friday, Nov 25) is the day after Thanksgiving in the U.S. (Black Friday)
Many of us who are out of school, and working class players, would have Friday off, and thus a better chance of participating and losing horribly fit ships as well.
What I'd suggest to CCP is to ensure that these events occur a few more times, and cover the non-euro timezones as well, if you can get people up to play. 19:00 EVE Time isn't exactly a prime time for those of us not in Europe.
I'd like to see a couple more events spread out across the timezones. |
RougeOperator
Autocannons Anonymous
98
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Posted - 2011.11.23 22:02:00 -
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Flinx Evenstar wrote:RougeOperator wrote:
Mail sent asking for an investigation into this event.
It was very unethical of CCP to have that loot in their ships.
Would you have found it ethical if you had looted a plex yourself. Your anger is just about you feeling left out in a very generous display from CCP, try not to be so bitter in R/L as you are in a game. I missed out on this as well, but instead of being all angry like you, I'd like to congratulate CCP for providing some excitement and content for us pod pilots and trying to share in the driving force behind EVE, which is pvp. The devs that died had fun, the people that got on their mails had fun, and lots of people got to see titans in action for the first time :)
No it was completely unethical due to the fact Items with real money value were used. And needs to be addressed.
Funny how it went from just being about the KMs to people saying the LOOT matters now. |
BeanBagKing
Terra Incognita
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2011.11.23 22:02:00 -
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Awox Blueshooter wrote:Mail sent asking for an investigation into this event. It was very unethical of CCP to have that loot in their ships.
I too sent a mail. I requested more events like this, CCP playing the game AND player interaction \o/ Here's hoping I can make it to the next one. |
Grath Telkin
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
276
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Posted - 2011.11.23 22:03:00 -
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RougeOperator wrote:
I thought it was just about the KMs.
Upset that you might not get pinatas going forward?
They should rub it in more and ban your accounts because you're too much of a douche bag to be left in public.
Trust that I hate Skreegs with a passion, but somehow, you come off as more of a jerk than he is.
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Morgan North
The Wild Bunch
Electus Matari
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Posted - 2011.11.23 22:03:00 -
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So, i wanna 1 on 1 on TW against one of them CCP dudes. Who shall it be? |
Grath Telkin
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
276
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Posted - 2011.11.23 22:04:00 -
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RougeOperator wrote:Flinx Evenstar wrote:RougeOperator wrote:
Mail sent asking for an investigation into this event.
It was very unethical of CCP to have that loot in their ships.
Would you have found it ethical if you had looted a plex yourself. Your anger is just about you feeling left out in a very generous display from CCP, try not to be so bitter in R/L as you are in a game. I missed out on this as well, but instead of being all angry like you, I'd like to congratulate CCP for providing some excitement and content for us pod pilots and trying to share in the driving force behind EVE, which is pvp. The devs that died had fun, the people that got on their mails had fun, and lots of people got to see titans in action for the first time :) No it was completely unethical due to the fact Items with real money value were used. And needs to be addressed.
All ships have a real world value as long as RMT is an actual thing. Maybe you should quit and play another game, you seem to be the only one who's really butthurt about this.
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Lukas Ignateus
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.11.23 22:05:00 -
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RougeOperator, and his alt's/other whingers, shut your little ***** mouth/s you ****/s.
I didn't even make it to this event, (aussie aussie aussie) and i still think it's an amazingly good idea on CCP's part to get in there and play their own damn game.
So what if they had some tasty lewt that dropped, from the pics i see of the engagement, it was a looting free for all.
Your (/all) just extra butt-hurt that you missed it. Don't go flying off the handle.
That is all.
m8m8m8m8 o7o7o7o7o7 |
DJWiggles
Eve Radio Corporation
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Posted - 2011.11.23 22:06:00 -
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All I know is if you couldnt be there, you can watch it all again in lovely HD video too over on the Eve Radio website. The video is in 2 parts and the lag well ... it was there just the amount of stuff on display my poor little rig couldn't quite handle it all.
It was a great event that shows that even CCP still want to play there game.
Enjoy
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Swearte Widfarend
Mortis Noir.
Unforgiving.
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Posted - 2011.11.23 22:07:00 -
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RougeOperator wrote:No it was completely unethical due to the fact Items with real money value were used. And needs to be addressed.
Um, everything in EVE has real money value.
I can buy a GTC with my real money, and sell it here, on the forums, for ISK, and buy a bunch of ships. That ISK has real money value. So what you are saying is, CCP should never do live events because they can't fly ships with modules on them, because those modules might drop, and the ships can be looted for salvage, and they certainly can't have ammo in the hold (or anything else) because it has real money value.
You are right.
We are better off with CCP not playing the game with their dev alts. They shouldn't interact visibly with the players.
In fact, they shouldn't be allowed to play at all, because then they might have a better understanding of the game they are making.
Yep. You got it right on.
See ya later, gotta go flip a GTC to buy a faction-fit Loki. |
David Magnus
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Posted - 2011.11.23 22:08:00 -
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RougeOperator wrote:David Magnus wrote:
Wow, dude, seriously.
It was just a fun event and they put a few fun things in their ships as an incentive for people to come fight them!
Have you ever thought that CCP didn't work to buy/make the ships they were flying like we did for ours?
It would be UNFAIR of them to not have extra loot to offset the risk we are taking vs. the NO RISK they were taking.
Also, Tama isn't anyone's territory. It's literally 3 jumps from Jita.
There isn't a single more fair place for them to have fought. ANYONE could have come because it was 3 jumps from Jita.
You are seriously an idiot.
Why are you so upset about this fun event where they went out of their way to make it fair for everyone?!
I thought it was just about the KMs. Upset that you might not get pinatas going forward?
a) I wasn't even there
b) PL didn't end up looting much of anything (pretty hard to beat other people to the wreck in a titan)
c) You're literally ********
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Mangala Solaris
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2011.11.23 22:10:00 -
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Not sure if it has been asked, but CCP post your losses please.
And thanks for bringing it, was good fun. |
RougeOperator
Autocannons Anonymous
98
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Posted - 2011.11.23 22:10:00 -
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Swearte Widfarend wrote:RougeOperator wrote:No it was completely unethical due to the fact Items with real money value were used. And needs to be addressed.
Um, everything in EVE has real money value. I can buy a GTC with my real money, and sell it here, on the forums, for ISK, and buy a bunch of ships. That ISK has real money value. So what you are saying is, CCP should never do live events because they can't fly ships with modules on them, because those modules might drop, and the ships can be looted for salvage, and they certainly can't have ammo in the hold (or anything else) because it has real money value. You are right. We are better off with CCP not playing the game with their dev alts. They shouldn't interact visibly with the players. In fact, they shouldn't be allowed to play at all, because then they might have a better understanding of the game they are making. Yep. You got it right on. See ya later, gotta go flip a GTC to buy a faction-fit Loki.
When your done with your logical fallacy laden tripe come back and have a real discussion.
No one said they shouldnt run events. Or interact with players.
They should not however have had such Items in their cargoholds that have clear Cash values. A plex and Nex items do have such values a battleship does not cause i cannot DIRECTLY purchase one with cash.
I wouldnt be surprised if this ran afoul of possibly gambling laws or some tax laws since those items have a cash value. |
Jack Dant
The Gentlemen of Low Moral Fibre
162
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Posted - 2011.11.23 22:11:00 -
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RougeOperator wrote:No it was completely unethical due to the fact Items with real money value were used. And needs to be addressed.
If CCP had offered a free month to anyone who got final blow on a dev, would that have bothered you? Were you bothered by the "eve is real" AUR payouts? How's that different to this?
The only thing that bothers me a bit, and only a bit, about the loot, is how more pirate faction ammo dropped from this event than has been sold in Jita in a year. |
Enkill Eridos
Draconian Enforcers Available To Hire
KRYSIS.
4
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Posted - 2011.11.23 22:12:00 -
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RougeOperator wrote:Awox Blueshooter wrote:CCP Sreegs wrote:
Actually I was asking you for feedback on how the system should be improved... It's an honest question as we want to be able to improve upon what we do. Who is this "we" you're referring to just so I'm clear?
we = ppl who pay REAL MONEY to play this game who dont like it when other ppl who just run incursions and pay isk to play get ccp devs flying to there doorstep to drop billions of loot. u have a history with goons and hearing this from u just confirms suspicions. there needs to be a ia investigation to make sure everything was done randomly or we cant trust u Not to mention none of the stuff they had most likely did not come from the player run market. They just devalued the plexes and nex items of people that pay IRL cash on them. The race to defend this debacle is by those that want to pinatas to continue. If its just about the KMs as they say then agreeing that there should be no loot drops makes sense, but isnt that strange that they are ignoring that? Why are you all so hostile to this if its just about KMs to you? Seems strange No one is saying that there shouldnt be events like this just that there was no need for that loot at all. Since its just about KMs you all can agree with that point. CCP messed up and the LOOT was an insult to the players and injects stuff into the market that should not be there. There are many ethical reasons this was a bad move even from a company standpoint.
My argument is plex and nex items do need to be devalued on the player driven market imo. I can cite other reasons that support why this was a good move on CCP's part. This was supposed to be a fun PVC (Players Versus CCP) event. From what I have been reading it did exactly what it was supposed to. It is the small minority that is crying favortism. Goonswarm is the new BoB in many people's eyes who don't actually know what they are talking about. My thoughts to bring more player participation to an event like this is have CCP roam around all of New Eden, ganking miners, and mission runners. Many would cry about this yes, but it would generate more buzz and a message that says "Don't fly what you can't afford to lose, especially today." Would hold true to everyone. Then give everyone some participation item (such as a reskinned quafe shirt that says something silly like CCP ganked me! or I ganked a CCP! or aurum for participating (i.e. getting on some kind of kill mail.) Or atleast allow the CCP's that come into trade hubs to do more trolololing than they did today. I mean these kinds of events are supposed to be fun for everyone. Obviously the loot idea, while a good one from an event standpoint, caused some problems. A participating item, and some funny quotes from what CCP's say in local would make up for the lack of isk made in said event. If I was a dev running an event like this, I would rehire some of the Atlanta guys and only pay them for live events they help with. Then I would run multiple fleets and make it a day or weekend long event, which would have gotten more participation imo than doing it on a weekday. (Weekend event say starts on Thursday ends Saturdays dt with two or three fleets in between with some CCP volunteers doing a little bit of suicide ganking and trolling. ) Or hold a lottery a week before on the forums pick some names out of a hat and allow select players to play on throwaway CCP accounts with nothing really overpowered besides the name CCP. Then for those that participated in that give them a reskinned Quafe t-shirt that says something like "I ganked with CCP." I think my suggestions sound like a fun event, and I hope you guys take these suggestions seriously for next time. |
RougeOperator
Autocannons Anonymous
98
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Posted - 2011.11.23 22:14:00 -
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Jack Dant wrote:RougeOperator wrote:No it was completely unethical due to the fact Items with real money value were used. And needs to be addressed. If CCP had offered a free month to anyone who got final blow on a dev, would that have bothered you? Were you bothered by the "eve is real" AUR payouts? How's that different to this? The only thing that bothers me a bit, and only a bit, about the loot, is how more pirate faction ammo dropped from those events than has been sold in Jita in a year.
Yes there should have been nothing given out other then a KM.
If anything they should undo all the loot drops. |
Pat Irvam
15 Minute Outliers
Chained Reactions
14
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Posted - 2011.11.23 22:15:00 -
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RougeOperator wrote:Swearte Widfarend wrote:RougeOperator wrote:No it was completely unethical due to the fact Items with real money value were used. And needs to be addressed.
Um, everything in EVE has real money value. I can buy a GTC with my real money, and sell it here, on the forums, for ISK, and buy a bunch of ships. That ISK has real money value. So what you are saying is, CCP should never do live events because they can't fly ships with modules on them, because those modules might drop, and the ships can be looted for salvage, and they certainly can't have ammo in the hold (or anything else) because it has real money value. You are right. We are better off with CCP not playing the game with their dev alts. They shouldn't interact visibly with the players. In fact, they shouldn't be allowed to play at all, because then they might have a better understanding of the game they are making. Yep. You got it right on. See ya later, gotta go flip a GTC to buy a faction-fit Loki. When your done with your logical fallacy laden tripe come back and have a real discussion. No one said they shouldnt run events. Or interact with players. They should not however have had such Items in their cargoholds that have clear Cash values. A plex and Nex items do have such values a battleship does not cause i cannot DIRECTLY purchase one with cash. I wouldnt be surprised if this ran afoul of possibly gambling laws or some tax laws since those items have a cash value.
When any other company like a radio network or soda producer has a contest with cash as a proze should this also be banned? Should i call my congressman and tell him its unfair someone had a cash contest 3000 miles from me so i couldnt participate?
Sheesh talk about logical fallacy.
This is a game, have fun.
If it makes you sleep any better at night just call this a winter expansion promotional contest. |
HydroVolcano
Autocannons Anonymous
0
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Posted - 2011.11.23 22:16:00 -
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TBH I'm not too pleased with CCP's event.
Their subcap fleet sat in one system, waiting for that cyno to light up and the blob of supers to land on them. The loot was overkill, I mean really? 17billion isk in faction ammo in that machariel? Come on.
If their "roaming fleet" was actually roaming, dropping a massive super fleet on them would not have been so easy, hell, they may have even made it to other regions, where other people who were not willing to travel 15+ jumps for their "reinforced node" lagfest in a system crammed full of 1000 people. 3 jumps from jita, oh nice - the highest populated system of bears gets to be just a few jumps out.
If this was just CCP's way of saying "Here ya go, use your supers to blow our subcap fleet up before they're all nerfed", fine. But the talks of making subcap ships useful in large fleet engagements led me to believe they would be looking for gang fights, not a massive blob of supers.
Suggestions for future CCP Fleets:
Review your fittings
Roam
Don't carry 17bil in ammo
Roam
Maybe have your own caps on standby for the situation you encountered in Tama
Roam |
Ze Infidel
UMirin
0
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Posted - 2011.11.23 22:17:00 -
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RougeOperator wrote:Flinx Evenstar wrote:RougeOperator wrote:
Mail sent asking for an investigation into this event.
It was very unethical of CCP to have that loot in their ships.
Would you have found it ethical if you had looted a plex yourself. Your anger is just about you feeling left out in a very generous display from CCP, try not to be so bitter in R/L as you are in a game. I missed out on this as well, but instead of being all angry like you, I'd like to congratulate CCP for providing some excitement and content for us pod pilots and trying to share in the driving force behind EVE, which is pvp. The devs that died had fun, the people that got on their mails had fun, and lots of people got to see titans in action for the first time :) No it was completely unethical due to the fact Items with real money value were used. And needs to be addressed. Funny how it went from just being about the KMs to people saying the LOOT matters now.
How is that unethical? THEY are the ones who lose out. Also, lets not forget that with that logic, ANYTHING worth any value would be "unethical" as it could all go towards buying PLEX.
You are just jealous about not getting it yourself.
As for CCP, bravo on doing a great event. No other mmo bothers with this stuff as it is hard work, yet always greatly appreciated by most players. |
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