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Drax Viacell
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2014.08.18 21:10:00 -
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Borsek wrote:Faife wrote:You guys are a bunch of whiny babymen angry that your carebear pathetic "pvp" setting is getting fixed. Stop trolling this forum.
Nobody likes you. Poopicus Butts wrote:hi im poopicus this is my first post one question why you gotta be so rude to pubs Go back to the containment board. Also, doubt it will change anything, but sure, let's kill incursion sites, at least incursion tears are gonna be great!
Hey now friend, no need to be hostile to poor little poopicus, his supple hairless body can't handle such an antagonistic attitude |
Bronya Boga
Isogen 5
445
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Posted - 2014.08.18 21:11:00 -
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Rain6637 wrote:npc buy orders, mostly
I suggest as a reward for bounties on rats we revert the warp to 0 on stargates change or maybe when you jump gate spawn inside the gate... risk for your reward :) Host of Down The Pipe-áIngame Channel DTP Podcast www.downthepipe-wh.com GÇïIsogen 5 is recruiting. Check us out
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Agrippa Arkaral
Vertical Rebirth
7
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Posted - 2014.08.18 21:11:00 -
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Last time i heared about "The W-space Axis of United Wormhole Alliances and Corporations" you were going to invade nullsec
what happened to that |
thebringer
Raptor Navy Dominatus Atrum Mortis
8
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Posted - 2014.08.18 21:17:00 -
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Marlona Sky wrote:Just moving the risk to be in line with the reward. Stop being such a coward.
Yah! It's a Nullbear! Kill it!
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Jess Tanner
Bangworks Systems Inc.
124
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Posted - 2014.08.18 21:19:00 -
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Agrippa Arkaral wrote:Last time i heared about "The W-space Axis of United Wormhole Alliances and Corporations" you were going to invade nullsec
what happened to that
Same thing that happened to every other Chitsa Jason grand plan... Go with Bob, keep Him always in your heart. He is your Sword, Shield, and the Knife in your back.
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epicurus ataraxia
Lazerhawks
1068
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Posted - 2014.08.18 21:19:00 -
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Agrippa Arkaral wrote:Last time i heared about "The W-space Axis of United Wormhole Alliances and Corporations" you were going to invade nullsec
what happened to that
But this time there is a cause worth fighting and dying for, It has to be better than waiting till the day we are unlucky and we just lose months of work for nothing, in the name of "Random stuff 'cause we're lazy." And If we are defending the hole WE DO NOT want Unlucky victims fed to us in the name of Content.
where's the sport and skill in that!
Just roll the Dice to win, roll up, roll up. Yuk.
Whatever happened to "you have no fate but the one you make for yourself" ?
Well, Here it is and it is NOT going, and we will ensure that the Future is NOT what CCP expected to deliver us into . There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE |
HerrBert
V0LTA Triumvirate.
498
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Posted - 2014.08.18 21:25:00 -
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OKAY! EVERYBODY ... gimme a minute...
WHAT THE ACTUAL ****!
But before I start:
Mihzir: YES they have ... dont mind the people leaving wormholes space. Its all shiny. (Although Grass aint greener just different color of BMs)
Poopicus Butts welcome to the Wormhole subforum, where 5 years of surpressed rage are getting given around from generation to generation
Ayeson: Still the love of my life
AAAAAAAAAAANYWAY. Yaaddi yaadddi yaadddii you know what fudge it...
I just want to kill Moms with you guys for the lols. Sign me up. Community-Challenge: Make Jack Miton sing a Duett with me. http://www.youtube.com/user/HerrBertism Jibbychiggawooooow - CSM 9 Corbexx
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Ab'del Abu
Atlantis Ascendant
75
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Posted - 2014.08.18 21:27:00 -
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Marlona Sky wrote:Just moving the risk to be in line with the reward. Stop being such a coward.
Uhm, no.
What you incursion/nullsec guys don't realize - while raw isk/h might be better in wormholes using SOME methods (most isk making opportunities are actually way worse), there is an additional very significant time sink for activities like logistics (our iskies don't magically appear in our wallets), scanning and performing safety measures like rolling/criting holes.
Just because a lot of people can adapt to the harsh environment that is wormhole space after a fashion, doesn't mean you have to make it any harder. It's especially dumb to balance your game around a few professional bears at the expense of the average guy, who isn't in wormholes for the money, but for a tiny little bit of space to call their own and some more exciting game play than shooting structures in 10% TIDI.
Having said that, I too believe that CCP is def. going forward with this change and most people will learn to live with it. That doesn't mean this is not a stupid change that coincidentally primarily caters to those NOT living in wh-space no tinfoils here btw, simple facts ...
- have fun trying to execute hole control when a big nullsec alliance decides to blob your corp on the nullsec exit - have fun trying to evict that bearing corp that can batphone their nullsec buddies and poor hordes of assault ships and dessies through one of those new frig holes to get on some shiny cap kills
etc.
To you it might sound silly, but this is exactly what is going to happen. While CCP claims to support emergent game play, this is probably their way of bending the wormhole life style towards what they originally intended. |
Setsune Rin
Collapsed Out Overload Everything
215
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Posted - 2014.08.18 21:27:00 -
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Andrew Jester wrote:Guys can we pop some null incursions too? I'm pretty keen on that Revenant and getting those BPCs is such a pain... I'd be ever so grateful))
only drops off the lowsec incursions
oh and totally +1, if we can't carebear then you can't carebear
go lazerhawks :D |
calaretu
Honestly We didnt know Unsettled.
147
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Posted - 2014.08.18 21:27:00 -
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I dont want to protest the change, but want to come anyway :D +1 for most creative protest ~Bringer of happiness
http://collapsedbehind.blogspot.no/ |
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Andrew Jester
Origin. Black Legion.
634
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Posted - 2014.08.18 21:28:00 -
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HerrBert wrote:OKAY! EVERYBODY ... gimme a minute... WHAT THE ACTUAL ****!But before I start: Mihzir: YES they have ... dont mind the people leaving wormholes space. Its all shiny. (Although Grass aint greener just different color of BMs) Poopicus Butts welcome to the Wormhole subforum, where 5 years of surpressed rage are getting given around from generation to generation Ayeson: Still the love of my life AAAAAAAAAAANYWAY. Yaaddi yaadddi yaadddii you know what fudge it... I just want to kill Moms with you guys for the lols. Sign me up.
OH HAI FUNNY TO SEE YOU HERE NEVER EXPECTED THAT YOU'D MAKE AN APPEARANCE IN THIS THREAD
I think the funnier bit of this will be seeing WHers grind out sites in order to make the mom site appear, **** will go sooooooooo slow depending on how many people show up.
I am accepting all bets on how long people think this will be kept up for. I have money on like a week. If thuggin' was a category I'd win a Grammy |
Rek Seven
Probe Patrol Ixtab.
1737
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Posted - 2014.08.18 21:30:00 -
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Tbh Fozzie was pretty clear that CCP don't want to design by committee and unless you get "burn Jita" numbers, that isn't going to change.
Only time will tell if these changes are good or not and instead of any premature overreactions, I wish people would band together for a better cause, like wormholes finally getting a true expansion. +1 |
Hatshepsut IV
Cascading Failure Un.Bound
225
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Posted - 2014.08.18 21:34:00 -
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I'll bring erections..... Err wait t3s. Erections come after the tears. You too can start failing today! Reddit-áad | Cascading Failure Public Channel | Aspiring Failure
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xpaulx
Codename-47
17
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Posted - 2014.08.18 21:41:00 -
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I support this. |
Phoenix Jones
Isogen 5
678
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Posted - 2014.08.18 21:50:00 -
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This isn't a bad test actually. Think of it like this.
CCP just proposed a bad change. We hate it.
Now people know what they have to do... but will they?
So if the wormhole "collective" fail this fight, you basically give CCP carte blanche to do whatever the hell they want to do with T3's.
You do realize that this change sucks, but if you don't want to effect change, T3's will be trashed beyond compare because the wormhole community won't "fight hard enough".
With all of that theory crafting said.....
There is a point where a protest hits a boiling point. This is nowhere near there yet.
Will it happen? Eventually, when someone rises from the ashes and says "That's enough" and brings people together for the future of Wormhole Spaceship games.
Griefing a part of the game won't **** people off enough, as that's pretty much just emergent gameplay and what CCP wants.
"No need to deal with Incursions now, the wormhole people are griefing them. Isk balance achieved."
Have fun, but you need a better plan (or an organized strategy, either work) Yaay!!!! |
epicurus ataraxia
Lazerhawks
1069
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Posted - 2014.08.18 21:54:00 -
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Rek Seven wrote:Tbh Fozzie was pretty clear that CCP don't want to design by committee and unless you get "burn Jita" numbers, that isn't going to change. What you should do is prove that your biggest fears have merit... Form a coalition and wipeout everyone else Only time will tell if these changes are good or not and instead of any premature overreactions, I wish people would band together for a better cause, like wormholes finally getting a true expansion.
There is a big difference between design by committee, and being herded onto the train like cattle. There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE |
Official Diplomat
Hard Knocks Inc.
0
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Posted - 2014.08.18 21:55:00 -
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Confirming |
Teleri Nova
Apex Force
0
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Posted - 2014.08.18 21:58:00 -
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A big shout out to CCP Fozzie for not only dunking WH bears, but trolling incursion bears by proxy.
Couldn't have been planned better, not even at the BBQ.
The actual WH changes are fantastic, they make WH's what they were always meant to be: dangerous. |
Tzar Sinak
Mythic Heights
111
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Posted - 2014.08.18 21:59:00 -
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Interestingly a lot of people think they speak on behalf of the entire WH community. They don't. Such arrogance. I like all the changes because they are changes! WHs have been conquered. Time to shake thing up; time to develop new tactics; to create new methods; to see big and small fights; time to see shiny KMs. Once that has been done and everyone has settled in again, I hope CCP shakes the house again!
In the meantime I really like the sounds of the campaign. When do we start? Of all the podcasts I listen to Hyrdostatic is the best! http://hydrostaticpodcast.blogspot.ca/ Of all the EVE tools available JeveAssets is by far the best! http://eve.nikr.net/jeveasset |
Iudicium Vastus
Incognito Holdings and Savings
287
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Posted - 2014.08.18 22:01:00 -
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People sure love throwing around HTFU and 'Adapt or die', until it hits something they like.
Nerf stabs/cloaks in FW? No, just.. -Fit more points -Fit faction points -Bring a friend or two with points (an alt is fine too) |
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Ab'del Abu
Atlantis Ascendant
75
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Posted - 2014.08.18 22:02:00 -
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Teleri Nova wrote:A big shout out to CCP Fozzie for not only dunking WH bears, but trolling incursion bears by proxy.
Couldn't have been planned better, not even at the BBQ.
The actual WH changes are fantastic, they make WH's what they were always meant to be: dangerous.
0/10
If you haven't noticed, it's the big pvp groups (those dunking you null bears on a daily basis) that are most vocal about this change. |
Amber Yamato
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
0
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Posted - 2014.08.18 22:03:00 -
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Keith Planck wrote: In response all of the major wormhole entities and many of the minor ones are banding together in protest.
Good to know that SSC isn't major anymore. :P |
AkJon Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd Ferguson Alliance
250
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Posted - 2014.08.18 22:05:00 -
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I owned my own WH for 3 years (fending off squatters and 'evicters' here and there) and I always thought that rolling holes was too easy (even though I derped and lost an orca or two by being too complacent or yolo.)
I like the distance-from-hole change. Those who don't like it should propose an alternative (and the status quo doesn't cut it as an alternative imo.) I don't think the new 'impossible-to-collapse' hole is fair and I'd be pretty teed off about it if I still lived in WH space.
I don't see the point of popping Incursion MOMs, especially since they'll be popping left and right with the new shorter respawn timer, but whatever floats your boat, I guess. |
Joran Jackson
The Red Circle Inc. Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
130
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Posted - 2014.08.18 22:09:00 -
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Amber Yamato wrote:Keith Planck wrote: In response all of the major wormhole entities and many of the minor ones are banding together in protest.
Good to know that SSC isn't major anymore. :P
This is just amazing.
You read this thread and you start to understand slightly why there are people who still think the world is flat. |
HerrBert
V0LTA Triumvirate.
498
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Posted - 2014.08.18 22:10:00 -
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Phoenix Jones wrote:This isn't a bad test actually. Think of it like this.
CCP just proposed a bad change. We hate it.
Now people know what they have to do... but will they?
So if the wormhole "collective" fail this fight, you basically give CCP carte blanche to do whatever the hell they want to do with T3's.
You do realize that this change sucks, but if you don't want to effect change, T3's will be trashed beyond compare because the wormhole community won't "fight hard enough".
With all of that theory crafting said.....
There is a point where a protest hits a boiling point. This is nowhere near there yet.
Will it happen? Eventually, when someone rises from the ashes and says "That's enough" and brings people together for the future of Wormhole Spaceship games.
Griefing a part of the game won't **** people off enough, as that's pretty much just emergent gameplay and what CCP wants.
"No need to deal with Incursions now, the wormhole people are griefing them. Isk balance achieved."
Have fun, but you need a better plan (or an organized strategy, either work)
HOW DARE YOU BRING REASON AND LOGIC INTO THIS REALM! BEGONE I SAY!
Edit: Hey Jester, hows the weather? Community-Challenge: Make Jack Miton sing a Duett with me. http://www.youtube.com/user/HerrBertism Jibbychiggawooooow - CSM 9 Corbexx
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Eveli
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
7
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Posted - 2014.08.18 22:17:00 -
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Oh no, you poor people, your safe wormhole rolling will be gone!! |
Rek Seven
Probe Patrol Ixtab.
1738
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Posted - 2014.08.18 22:18:00 -
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epicurus ataraxia wrote: There is a big difference between design by committee, and being herded onto the train like cattle.
CCP say they want to make it harder for people to roll and close themselves off and some of the community are demanding that they go back on that plan.
I just think it would be better if we give it a month to see how things work out. If it turns out people were right, you will get more people to take parts and CCP might take you seriously because you at least tried to live with the changes.
+1 |
Official Diplomat
Hard Knocks Inc.
0
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Posted - 2014.08.18 22:22:00 -
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Vote Official Diplomat for CSM 2015 and I will promise to make WH fun for all parties involved. |
Jess Tanner
Bangworks Systems Inc.
124
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Posted - 2014.08.18 22:27:00 -
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Please god run next year...Official Diplomat wrote:Vote Official Diplomat for CSM 2015 and I will promise to make WH fun for all parties involved.
Go with Bob, keep Him always in your heart. He is your Sword, Shield, and the Knife in your back.
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epicurus ataraxia
Lazerhawks
1069
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Posted - 2014.08.18 22:28:00 -
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Rek Seven wrote:epicurus ataraxia wrote: There is a big difference between design by committee, and being herded onto the train like cattle.
CCP say they want to make it harder for people to roll and close themselves off and some of the community are demanding that they go back on that plan. I just think it would be better if we give it a month to see how things work out. If it turns out people were right, you will get more people to take parts and CCP might take you seriously because you at least tried to live with the changes.
Just get off the train and go into that room with the funny smell and the whirling knives and tell me how it is after a month, we can discuss it over a nice steak dinner. There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE |
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