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Walker Ahashion
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.08.19 16:16:00 -
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Bleedingthrough wrote:Walker Ahashion wrote:Never been in a WH, can someone explain what the "rolling away" part means and how these changes will be bad? Just looking for some context so I can follow the thread better. Thanks! "The Game of Mass"WHlers use the total mass limits of WHs to control the battlefield. In essence: if you win the game of mass you can fight groups that are much stronger than you. "Roll Away"You put enough mass through a wandering WH or K162 to close it. It is then gone. "Roll the Static"A method to force a new static into existence by putting enough mass through it so it collapses. A new static will spawn then. This serves various purposes: - find targets that are active - get a connection to a sieged WH you want to assist - seed dreads into a specific WH - find a logistic rout to HS. - find ratting carriers (if you got a null static)...
Thanks for the detailed reply, the proposed changes do look kinda crappy for you guys. Basically you could have dudes landing all over the place and swamp the defenders. What's to stop one of the big blocs just deciding to take advantage of these changes and roll over a bunch of WH's? Seems like the WH dudes are going to get screwed by these changes. So if it takes blowing up incursion motherships and causing grief to the incursion folks to get attention, then plus 1 from me. |
Erastara
Oath of the Forsaken Sanguis Ignis Prosperitum
0
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Posted - 2014.08.19 16:38:00 -
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Is there a channel I can join to get in on the incursion popping? |
Angrod Losshelin
Oath of the Forsaken Sanguis Ignis Prosperitum
90
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Posted - 2014.08.19 16:48:00 -
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{S.I.P.} Will pledge it's support to this worthy cause! Check out my PodCast:-áhttp://praisebobpodcast.blogspot.com/ Also checkout these other PodCasts: http://evepodcasts.com/
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Andrew Jester
Origin. Black Legion.
637
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Posted - 2014.08.19 17:23:00 -
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I believe Lil Wayne said it best
Lil Wayne wrote: Got the Maserati dancing on the bridge incursion poppinGÇÖ Tell the coppersGǪ hahahaha you canGÇÖt catch GÇÿem, you canGÇÖt stop GÇÿem I go by them goon rules if you canGÇÖt beat GÇÿem then you pop GÇÿem You canGÇÖt man GÇÿem then you mop GÇÿem You canGÇÖt stand GÇÿem then you drop GÇÿem You pop GÇÿem cause we pop GÇÿem like Orville Redenbacher
If thuggin' was a category I'd win a Grammy |
Ahost Gceo
Probe Patrol Ixtab.
172
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Posted - 2014.08.19 17:47:00 -
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Walker Ahashion wrote:Bleedingthrough wrote:Walker Ahashion wrote:Never been in a WH, can someone explain what the "rolling away" part means and how these changes will be bad? Just looking for some context so I can follow the thread better. Thanks! "The Game of Mass"WHlers use the total mass limits of WHs to control the battlefield. In essence: if you win the game of mass you can fight groups that are much stronger than you. "Roll Away"You put enough mass through a wandering WH or K162 to close it. It is then gone. "Roll the Static"A method to force a new static into existence by putting enough mass through it so it collapses. A new static will spawn then. This serves various purposes: - find targets that are active - get a connection to a sieged WH you want to assist - seed dreads into a specific WH - find a logistic rout to HS. - find ratting carriers (if you got a null static)... Thanks for the detailed reply, the proposed changes do look kinda crappy for you guys. Basically you could have dudes landing all over the place and swamp the defenders. What's to stop one of the big blocs just deciding to take advantage of these changes and roll over a bunch of WH's? Seems like the WH dudes are going to get screwed by these changes. So if it takes blowing up incursion motherships and causing grief to the incursion folks to get attention, then plus 1 from me. Again, it really comes down to holes taking forever to roll now, even with a decent fleet. I'm a friggin' banana. |
Official Diplomat
Hard Knocks Inc.
4
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Posted - 2014.08.19 18:06:00 -
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Erastara wrote:Is there a channel I can join to get in on the incursion popping? I have taken the liberty of creating the "Official Hyperion Changes Boycott Channel" You may go there, formups and fleet comps to be added soon Gäó |
Jess Tanner
Bangworks Systems Inc.
132
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Posted - 2014.08.19 18:45:00 -
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I don't see the relavance between my statement of how terrible Chitsa Jason is and your statement, thusly I will only reply with this randomly chosen gif, good day sir.
Go with Bob, keep Him always in your heart. He is your Sword, Shield, and the Knife in your back.
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Maduin Shi
Perkone Caldari State
21
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Posted - 2014.08.19 18:47:00 -
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I really doubt CCP would give a rat's a$$ (no pun intended) about an incursion griefing protest. A Jita sit-in might work though. |
Rek Seven
Probe Patrol Ixtab.
1749
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Posted - 2014.08.19 18:51:00 -
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My promotion was supposed to be kept under wraps. +1 |
Rob Cobb
Probe Patrol Ixtab.
24
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Posted - 2014.08.19 18:54:00 -
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i love the people you listed as CEO's +1
oh, and can winthorpe tell us how many people actually mailed him with questions please? :) |
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HerrBert
V0LTA Triumvirate.
498
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Posted - 2014.08.19 19:30:00 -
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Rob Cobb wrote:i love the people you listed as CEO's +1
oh, and can winthorpe tell us how many people actually mailed him with questions please? :)
What are you saying ROB THIS IS HAPPENING!!!! Whinny doesnt know it yet... Community-Challenge: Make Jack Miton sing a Duett with me. http://www.youtube.com/user/HerrBertism Jibbychiggawooooow - CSM 9 Corbexx
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Samantha Elroy
Atztech Inc. Ixtab.
6
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Posted - 2014.08.19 19:37:00 -
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Keith Planck wrote:
"To be honest Fozzie was pretty clear that CCP don't want to listen to it's playerbase and even if we get "burn Jita" numbers, that isn't going to change." -Rek Seven Ixtab. CEO
Did i missed something ? |
Aureus Ahishatsu
Deadspace Knights
28
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Posted - 2014.08.19 20:08:00 -
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I am all for this. I don't understand why incursions are even compared to wormholes in terms of their isk made. Incursions are ridiculous in the isk/ hour made and are pure faucets of roughly 3.5bil-4bil isk per hour PER FLEET. Now on top of the changes to WH's they are actually BOOSTING incursions in terms of isk potential. If you haven't already please read the new dev blog posted today.
http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/incursion-changes-in-hyperion/
I have no problem with the scout site buffing as those were worthless in their current form. But there is NO NEED to reduce the spawn time of these isk hemorrhaging sites. It should say something to people that a large portion of the FC's and key pilots who run these things are all null sec dwellers because they make more isk per hour and are safer than running in null sec. |
Official Diplomat
Hard Knocks Inc.
4
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Posted - 2014.08.19 20:19:00 -
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[20:17:04] Hinata Sama > C0NCORD Commander Jita-Officer yeah feel free to kil lall incursions.. i just simply go to another MMO
CCP you need to respond to this or risk losing players |
Prophet Bathana
Task Force Proteus Protean Concept
19
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Posted - 2014.08.19 20:20:00 -
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I support this product and/or service. |
Jaari Val'Dara
Grim Sleepers Ocularis Inferno
98
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Posted - 2014.08.20 10:19:00 -
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You know what we should do? Bring a shitload of smartbombing battleships and smartbomb the whole incursion fleet.
It is not the most efficient way, but definitely the funniest. |
Winthorp
2610
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Posted - 2014.08.20 10:31:00 -
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Rob Cobb wrote:i love the people you listed as CEO's +1
oh, and can winthorpe tell us how many people actually mailed him with questions please? :)
Can confirm someone was actually dumb enough to think this was legit and did mail me for more info on fleet comps and ****.
Sadly i do think Keith wishes you had all taken him seriously on this, he does love the incursion drama and he would love to get revenge on the entire incursion community that hates him.
Incursion Protest From: (redacted) Sent: 2014.08.19 10:26 To: Winthorp,
o/ Sir,
we would like to have some more infomrations about the protest https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=367116
We are a small corp, but we would like to take part as much as we can.
Any information about fits, comms and times are much appreciated!
In behalf of (Redacted).
(Redacted) |
Creepy McCreepster
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
3
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Posted - 2014.08.20 11:25:00 -
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So, we need a name for this.
1. Make a post. 2. See the community laugh at you for it. 3. Pretend it's a troll. 4. Moonwalk out of thread like you meant it as a joke.
Should we name it CODE.ing? |
LUMINOUS SPIRIT
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
491
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Posted - 2014.08.20 14:09:00 -
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Keith Planck wrote: TL:DR: ~tears~
Good luck with that. I for one, like the new mass jump changes. No more rolling of dangerous holes safely. Opportunities for content. |
Andrew Jester
Origin. Black Legion.
646
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Posted - 2014.08.20 14:41:00 -
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Winthorp wrote:Rob Cobb wrote:i love the people you listed as CEO's +1
oh, and can winthorpe tell us how many people actually mailed him with questions please? :) Can confirm someone was actually dumb enough to think this was legit and did mail me for more info on fleet comps and ****. Sadly i do think Keith wishes you had all taken him seriously on this, he does love the incursion drama and he would love to get revenge on the entire incursion community that hates him. Incursion Protest From: (redacted) Sent: 2014.08.19 10:26 To: Winthorp, o/ Sir, we would like to have some more infomrations about the protest https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=367116We are a small corp, but we would like to take part as much as we can. Any information about fits, comms and times are much appreciated! In behalf of (Redacted). (Redacted)
I can believe you redacted that. NAME AND SHAME If thuggin' was a category I'd win a Grammy |
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Lloyd Roses
Blue-Fire
689
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Posted - 2014.08.20 17:02:00 -
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Keith Planck wrote: This change enraged a bunch of c4-farmers, me, some escalation gankers/ragerollers and apparently of the 20% people that care enough to click a link, 75% were against it.
Out of 6 people I heard (incl. me), one downvoted. The rest didn't care or was in favor. Small sample, amazing tendency.
"I honestly thought I was in lowsec"
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Smarty MacGyver
Amarr Technologies. Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
9
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Posted - 2014.08.20 18:55:00 -
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Smarty MacGyver wrote:26th of August Hyperion Patchnotes right at the end:
- Strategic cruisers are now unable to enter any Incursion related sites (The Fozzie sends his regards)
Just leaving this on top https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGVN3ObA6Ic#t=108 Dat is a proper FU! smile. |
Kirasten
No Vacancies
39
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Posted - 2014.08.20 20:30:00 -
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Creepy McCreepster wrote:So, we need a name for this.
1. Make a post. 2. See the community laugh at you for it. 3. Pretend it's a troll. 4. Moonwalk out of thread like you meant it as a joke.
Should we name it CODE.ing?
Hello forum alt.
I'm curious who this is directed at. I know it can't be Keith, because everyone in our community should have known it was a troll as soon as he mentioned Winthorp.
So, I'm curious who you think is playing off their sincere posts as trolls. |
Andrew Jester
Origin. Black Legion.
649
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Posted - 2014.08.20 20:49:00 -
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Kirasten wrote:Creepy McCreepster wrote:So, we need a name for this.
1. Make a post. 2. See the community laugh at you for it. 3. Pretend it's a troll. 4. Moonwalk out of thread like you meant it as a joke.
Should we name it CODE.ing? Hello forum alt. I'm curious who this is directed at. I know it can't be Keith, because everyone in our community should have known it was a troll as soon as he mentioned Winthorp. So, I'm curious who you think is playing off their sincere posts as trolls.
ITT: Hellaretards. If reading this forum has taught you anything, it should be that people are super dumb. If thuggin' was a category I'd win a Grammy |
Rain6637
Team Evil
15741
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Posted - 2014.08.20 21:11:00 -
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nah this thread's purpose is recouping some baww over the wh change. President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub | Rainfleet on Twitch | Twitter | Rainfleet mk.III | Imgur |
Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
3451
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Posted - 2014.08.20 23:43:00 -
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Looks like I'm not the only person looking to sabotage Incursions in Hyperion.
I approve of this event, although not being a wormhole dweller I'm not sure whether I agree or not with your reasons for it.
If you want to gank some incursion runners on the side as well, don't hesitate to submit your kills into the Operation Incursion Carnage competition. Link in my signature. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=366607 - Gank incursion runners, win prizes! August 26-Sept 30. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content. www.minerbumping.com - ganking miners and causing chaos |
Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders Repeat 0ffenders
1865
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Posted - 2014.08.20 23:54:00 -
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You guys should actually do this.
You know how to kill red crosses, you have the ships and the logistics capability, you're probably all positive sec status.
Plus you'd certainly be wardecced by most highsec corps, that would be fun, too.
Just make sure you can keep it up for at least 2-3 weeks, or you'll look silly.
Side note: Rain, I just checked your latest pics on imgur, the one with the different skirt lengths is GENIUS. Make space glamorous! Is EVE dying or not? Ask the EVE-O Death-o-meter! |
Borsek
Incertae Sedis
232
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Posted - 2014.08.21 00:53:00 -
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Here's my prediction for the future:
1. This actually happens. 2. People realize incursions are aids, but hanging with w-space dudes on comms while doing them is not as damaging to the frontal cortex as hanging with the usual incursion runners. 3. A WH incursion community is born. 4. ??? 5. Eve is ruined forever. |
Icarus Able
Revenant Tactical
445
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Posted - 2014.08.21 03:22:00 -
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Jaari Val'Dara wrote:You know what we should do? Bring a shitload of smartbombing battleships and smartbomb the whole incursion fleet.
It is not the most efficient way, but definitely the funniest.
My corp actually did the math on this.....Its reallllly reaaaaaaly not worth it. Cant remember the exact numbers but its virtually impossible to smartbomb alpha incursion ships before concord gets you, |
Winthorp
2610
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Posted - 2014.08.21 06:17:00 -
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So you want this locked now Keith? LOL So Wh community didn't get on board your crazy plan that was only 50% troll 50% hope...
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