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Seraph Essael
Devils Diciples
League of Infamy
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Posted - 2014.08.18 22:29:00 -
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AkJon Ferguson wrote:I like the distance-from-hole change. Those who don't like it should propose an alternative (and the status quo doesn't cut it as an alternative imo.)
You obviously was not at the meeting. There was an excellent proposed alternative by the masses and by corbexx, one that would bring with it a posibility of new doctrines and more fights. Inverting the Mass / Distance spawn.
If they were to do this, it would bring in the ability to possibly use kiting ships as a doctrine, fast ships could be used instead of the current slow armour doctrines that dominate hole fights.
This change would also allow combat rolling as a continued valid tactic for small groups to maintain hole control and fight outnumbered.
This proposed alternative was mentioned several times by several people and was met with the majority of people agreeing. This is a fair and honest alternative that has been issued in feedback threads.
Perhaps you should read through some of these threads and / or listen to the townhall before stating we haven't offered valid alternatives...
Quoted from Doc Fury: "Concerned citizens: Doc seldom plays EVE on the weekends during spring and summer, so you will always be on your own for a couple days a week. Doc spends that time collecting kittens for the on-going sacrifices, engaging in reckless outdoor activities, and speaking in the 3rd person." |
Saint Freighterus
Flying Space Monkeys
PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS
0
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Posted - 2014.08.18 22:37:00 -
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make me wormhole csm and i'll promise to do as many useful things as the current wormhole csm
say wuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut |
Official Diplomat
Hard Knocks Inc.
0
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Posted - 2014.08.18 22:44:00 -
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Saint Freighterus wrote:make me wormhole csm and i'll promise to do as many useful things as the current wormhole csm
say wuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut
Do not mock me, I am an Official Diplomat |
Phillips Helljumper
Lazerhawks
8
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Posted - 2014.08.18 22:48:00 -
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Im out of popcorn =[
Null bears "we dont care it dont mess with our ratting"
Low Sec Pirates "but we would have to leave our gate camp"
PL "but how do we drop supers on you if your in highsec?"
Smaller Wspace corps "we dont care we cant have caps in system any way"
Me I like the change ill be tackleing all the dumbs that dont scout caps through the hole. I just love [email protected]#$%# with Incursion runners and any one else for that matter.
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PinkKnife
Future Corps
Sleeper Social Club
502
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Posted - 2014.08.18 22:56:00 -
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Keith Planck wrote:"Why even have forums and Town Halls if your not going to change what we want to change!" -pubway (Lazerhawks CEO)
Because it's not a ******* democracy. Jesus. Just because you don't like it, doesn't mean it isn't gonna happen. |
Cloaked Hictor
BACKUPLEGION
34
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Posted - 2014.08.18 23:05:00 -
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epicurus ataraxia wrote:Agrippa Arkaral wrote:Last time i heared about "The W-space Axis of United Wormhole Alliances and Corporations" you were going to invade nullsec
what happened to that But this time there is a cause worth fighting and dying for, It has to be better than waiting till the day we are unlucky and we just lose months of work for nothing, in the name of "Random stuff "  And If we are defending the hole WE DO NOT want Unlucky victims fed to us in the name of Content. where's the sport and skill in that! Just roll the Dice to win, roll up, roll up.  Yuk. Whatever happened to "you have no fate but the one you make for yourself" ? Well, Here it is and it is NOT going, and we will ensure that the Future is NOT what CCP expected to deliver us into . So lobby your CEO's make your plans, and pick your targets.
you mean like the unlucky people running sties you happened to roll into and ganked? lmao get real nerd0s |
epicurus ataraxia
Lazerhawks
1069
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Posted - 2014.08.18 23:12:00 -
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Cloaked Hictor wrote:epicurus ataraxia wrote:Agrippa Arkaral wrote:Last time i heared about "The W-space Axis of United Wormhole Alliances and Corporations" you were going to invade nullsec
what happened to that But this time there is a cause worth fighting and dying for, It has to be better than waiting till the day we are unlucky and we just lose months of work for nothing, in the name of "Random stuff " And If we are defending the hole WE DO NOT want Unlucky victims fed to us in the name of Content. where's the sport and skill in that! Just roll the Dice to win, roll up, roll up. Yuk. Whatever happened to "you have no fate but the one you make for yourself" ? Well, Here it is and it is NOT going, and we will ensure that the Future is NOT what CCP expected to deliver us into . So lobby your CEO's make your plans, and pick your targets. you mean like the unlucky people running sties you happened to roll into and ganked? lmao get real nerd0s
So, would randomly exploding asteroids or gates make the game more fun for you?
Seems to be that CCP believes we all feel that this new design philosophy could make everyone happy?
No?
There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE |
Jess Tanner
Bangworks Systems Inc.
125
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Posted - 2014.08.18 23:16:00 -
[68] - Quote
epicurus ataraxia wrote:Cloaked Hictor wrote:epicurus ataraxia wrote:Agrippa Arkaral wrote:Last time i heared about "The W-space Axis of United Wormhole Alliances and Corporations" you were going to invade nullsec
what happened to that But this time there is a cause worth fighting and dying for, It has to be better than waiting till the day we are unlucky and we just lose months of work for nothing, in the name of "Random stuff " And If we are defending the hole WE DO NOT want Unlucky victims fed to us in the name of Content. where's the sport and skill in that! Just roll the Dice to win, roll up, roll up. Yuk. Whatever happened to "you have no fate but the one you make for yourself" ? Well, Here it is and it is NOT going, and we will ensure that the Future is NOT what CCP expected to deliver us into . So lobby your CEO's make your plans, and pick your targets. you mean like the unlucky people running sties you happened to roll into and ganked? lmao get real nerd0s So, would randomly exploding asteroids or gates make the game more fun for you? Seems to be that CCP believes we all feel that this new design philosophy could make everyone happy? No?
wat?
Go with Bob, keep Him always in your heart. He is your Sword, Shield, and the Knife in your back.
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CivilWars
Rolled Out
Triumvirate.
108
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Posted - 2014.08.18 23:20:00 -
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I demand that when I jump a gate in k space that I be in range to jump back, and not ~12km from the gate. This is an outrage that I am unable to immediately run away from any danger that may await me on the other side. #ccplease
We Re-Rolled. Stop by public channel Rolled Out to join the fun. |
Timber Lynn
Adult Beverages
Deep Space Engineering
0
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Posted - 2014.08.18 23:21:00 -
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There is good and bad in the patch like many patches. The manufacturing changes are mixed at best. This patch will be viewed in a similar light.
That said...if CCP spent more time on how to generate a better new player retention rate and fixing things that are really broken we might get a better player experience.
Nothing will generate more content or "mix it up" in the game like new players with new ideas and things actually working.
Some of the worst code in the game is the POS code but what does CCP do.....they encourage more of them and let everyone anchor them and make it easier to have one rather than actually fix the code.
All I see from CCP is a continual loop looking for the low hanging fruit to maintain the existing base because they can't generate new players fast enough.
CCP will not change until you stop re-upping your accounts.
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ROXGenghis
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
204
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Posted - 2014.08.18 23:24:00 -
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Bronya Boga wrote:Marlona Sky wrote:Just moving the risk to be in line with the reward. Stop being such a coward. Where is the reward?
The reward is the ISK-printing machine provided by WH sites. Highest ISK per hour in the game (as far as shooting red crosses goes) and in complete isolation from the rest of Eve (and therefore in complete safety) if done correctly. |
Dorian Wylde
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
479
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Posted - 2014.08.18 23:26:00 -
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Keith Planck wrote:
"Why even have forums and Town Halls if your not going to change what we want to change!" -pubway (Lazerhawks CEO)
In response all of the major wormhole entities and many of the minor ones are banding together in protest.
"If on August 26th when Hyperion is launched we will be taking our T3s to highsec to destroy every single incursion Mothership until we get what we want. I want to make this very clear for everyone listening out there: this is not about pissing off incursion runners, or getting paid for the Mothership site (sorry incursioners, no tears if you get the payout for the sites), this is about protesting the wormhole changes." -Noobman (Hard Knocks CEO)
The W-space Axis of United Wormhole Alliances and Corporations Propaganda Director
Keith Planck
Having a town hall and forums does not mean they're automatically going to implement everything people ask for. That's not how anything works. If it did, this game would be unplayable. Forums are for discussion. CCP is discussing the issue, and they happen to disagree with players on this one.
Also, good luck with this 'protest' idea of yours. Not entirely sure what you think it will accomplish, but best of luck regardless.
inb4 "ccp apologist", "ccp alt", "asskisser" or whatever cute little insult you think will make you feel better.
The only safe place in EVE is inside a station. Wormholes are too safe if you can cut off access to them so easily. Adapt or die. Or go back to WoW. Or whatever. You won't be missed. |
Jassmin Joy
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
273
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Posted - 2014.08.18 23:27:00 -
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All i'm seeing here is:
"Waaa, we can't run sites in peace, waaa we cant deny people fights unless we can win them, waaa unknown space might be unknown and dangerous"
Just because every Wormholer in the game wants it, doesn't mean you get it, it's a change that makes jumping Wh's dangerous for once, Get used to it because i really hope it sticks. |
epicurus ataraxia
Lazerhawks
1069
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Posted - 2014.08.18 23:28:00 -
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Jess Tanner wrote:epicurus ataraxia wrote:Cloaked Hictor wrote:epicurus ataraxia wrote:Agrippa Arkaral wrote:Last time i heared about "The W-space Axis of United Wormhole Alliances and Corporations" you were going to invade nullsec
what happened to that But this time there is a cause worth fighting and dying for, It has to be better than waiting till the day we are unlucky and we just lose months of work for nothing, in the name of "Random stuff " And If we are defending the hole WE DO NOT want Unlucky victims fed to us in the name of Content. where's the sport and skill in that! Just roll the Dice to win, roll up, roll up. Yuk. Whatever happened to "you have no fate but the one you make for yourself" ? Well, Here it is and it is NOT going, and we will ensure that the Future is NOT what CCP expected to deliver us into . So lobby your CEO's make your plans, and pick your targets. you mean like the unlucky people running sties you happened to roll into and ganked? lmao get real nerd0s So, would randomly exploding asteroids or gates make the game more fun for you? Seems to be that CCP believes we all feel that this new design philosophy could make everyone happy? No? wat?
So jumping through a hole and every ship ending up scattered across a large sphere, different distances from the hole, and people dying 100% due to luck is ok, but dying randomly with no opportunity to affect ones survival is not ok in Null?
Why should they stop with wormholes, after all dying to random luck is such fun, isn't it?
Or have you just not been paying attention and think it is just about whiney wormholers?
This is about the direction they are choosing for all of us.
There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE |
Varesk
Origin.
Black Legion.
584
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Posted - 2014.08.18 23:32:00 -
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wow, this thread. sorta funny but yet sad. its funny to think that wormhole people can actually kill an incursion and sad that they just want to be able to close hostile holes quicker so they can make tons of ISK in peace.
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343guilty1
29
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Posted - 2014.08.18 23:34:00 -
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"Official Hyperion Changes Boycott Channel"
Come and let us debate this in game |
epicurus ataraxia
Lazerhawks
1069
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Posted - 2014.08.18 23:36:00 -
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Varesk wrote:wow, this thread. sorta funny but yet sad. its funny to think that wormhole people can actually kill an incursion and sad that they just want to be able to close hostile holes quicker so they can make tons of ISK in peace.
Wow, the mountains laboured and produced a mouse, send some people on a world tour, let them experience all the delights, visit wise men, and return after twenty years.
And when asked what they gained from all the wisdom, all the experience, and all the travels, and they come out with the immortal words
"Not much but they smelt funny"
There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE |
Neu Bastian
Hard Knocks Inc.
3
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Posted - 2014.08.18 23:38:00 -
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Wow, this thread is going places.
Also, incursions with t3s? Have fun. |
Naraish Adarn
Alexylva Paradox
Low-Class
99
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Posted - 2014.08.18 23:41:00 -
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mind you the mass->distance effect will only effect you silly highclass folk dramatically. who all ready seem to be more timid than a church mouse at least thats the image i get from reading this thread. where as my corps and alliances attitude seems to be from zero fucks given to "cool we might get more fights now" |
Jess Tanner
Bangworks Systems Inc.
126
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Posted - 2014.08.18 23:45:00 -
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epicurus ataraxia wrote:
Why should they stop with wormholes, after all dying to random luck is such fun, isn't it?
Or have you just not been paying attention and think it is just about whiney wormholers?
This is about the direction they are choosing for all of us.
You went from discussion on a game change mechanic, to bitching about incursions because someone complained about them in the WH townhall, to making up some half assed ******** theory that lacks grounding in such a way, that it deserves to be filed away with creationism school books... Please, I know its hard sometimes to rub 2 brain cells together and form a cohesive thought, but try.
Now, while I don't really like the current version of the mass based changes, I do see some potential in them, and would like to see what happens after they hit TQ. What I do not agree with is this autistic foolish idea put forth by a known autistic fool. That being said, this forum thread had been a source of great joy, tears and laughs for me, so please continue.
Go with Bob, keep Him always in your heart. He is your Sword, Shield, and the Knife in your back.
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Kirasten
No Vacancies
37
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Posted - 2014.08.18 23:46:00 -
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I'm not understanding why people are thinking rolling a wh is safe now? A good portion of losses in w-space happen while someone is rolling a hole.
And when 9 out of 10 null sec holes we jump through doesnt see the whole system pos/station up or just simply log out, then you can talk about our bearing ways. If the reward was worth the risk as much as you claim, why aren't you living in a wh? I'll tell you why, because most people don't think the reward is high enough. |
Beffah
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
32
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Posted - 2014.08.18 23:55:00 -
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I started giggling at the end of the OP.
By the end of the first page my sides were aching.
By the end of page three I had to change my pants.
You want tears? Right now I'm wiping them from my eyes because this is possibly the best troll thread ever. |
Alan Artemisa
Calaran Corporation
0
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Posted - 2014.08.18 23:59:00 -
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Can't we just have some Jita riots again? I'll join anyway, but I doubt if CCP cares about us popping incursion motherships  |
Rek Seven
Probe Patrol
Ixtab.
1740
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Posted - 2014.08.19 00:01:00 -
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Kirasten wrote:I'm not understanding why people are thinking rolling a wh is safe now? A good portion of losses in w-space happen while someone is rolling a hole.
And when 9 out of 10 null sec holes we jump through doesnt see the whole system pos/station up or just simply log out, then you can talk about our bearing ways. If the reward was worth the risk as much as you claim, why aren't you living in a wh? I'll tell you why, because most people don't think the reward is high enough.
Probably more to do with all the downsides... Sure the isk is okay but why put up with living in a pos when most of your kills come from null anyway? I can't remember the last time I saw a big hostile fleet flying through w-space. 
I do agree that there isn't enough incentive to live in w-space but more isk isn't the answer.
+1 |
Hayley Enaka
Hard Knocks Inc.
44
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Posted - 2014.08.19 00:22:00 -
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This thread is a joke right? |
Hatshepsut IV
Cascading Failure
Un.Bound
225
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Posted - 2014.08.19 00:23:00 -
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Rek Seven wrote:....I can't remember the last time I saw a big hostile fleet flying through w-space.
Depends on how big. I've seen some pretty big ixtab fleets roll through. X.X
You too can start failing today!
Reddit-áad | Cascading Failure
Public Channel | Aspiring Failure
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epicurus ataraxia
Lazerhawks
1070
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Posted - 2014.08.19 00:26:00 -
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Jess Tanner wrote:epicurus ataraxia wrote:
Why should they stop with wormholes, after all dying to random luck is such fun, isn't it?
Or have you just not been paying attention and think it is just about whiney wormholers?
This is about the direction they are choosing for all of us.
You went from discussion on a game change mechanic, to bitching about incursions because someone complained about them in the WH townhall, to making up some half assed ******** theory that lacks grounding in such a way, that it deserves to be filed away with creationism school books... Please, I know its hard sometimes to rub 2 brain cells together and form a cohesive thought, but try.Now, while I don't really like the current version of the mass based changes, I do see some potential in them, and would like to see what happens after they hit TQ. What I do not agree with is this autistic foolish idea put forth by a known autistic fool. That being said, this forum thread had been a source of great joy, tears and laughs for me, so please continue.
Well I certainly would not wish to comment about your personal experience of rubbing two brain cells together to get a coherent thought, I bow to your experience in the matter.
There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE |
epicurus ataraxia
Lazerhawks
1070
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Posted - 2014.08.19 00:33:00 -
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Hayley Enaka wrote:This thread is a joke right?
Why yes, yes it is. After the editing that made it clearer later.
However the Idea is sound, not to whelp incursion fleets, but for wormhole corporations, to express their anger and disappointment, with the whole direction this is taking the game. Disrupting various aspects of the eve economy is the Ideal expression, particularly as one of our corporations is opening up almost everywhere in new eden every minute, we just need to disrupt as many sections of the game economy as possible.
Whether this happens or not, who can say, but just accepting things, would be a very bad signal to give.
There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE |
Keith Planck
Lazerhawks
880
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Posted - 2014.08.19 00:39:00 -
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epicurus ataraxia wrote:Hayley Enaka wrote:This thread is a joke right? After the editing that made it clearer later.
the leliest
"Jack Miton liked your forum post:" |
epicurus ataraxia
Lazerhawks
1070
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Posted - 2014.08.19 00:40:00 -
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Keith Planck wrote:epicurus ataraxia wrote:Hayley Enaka wrote:This thread is a joke right? After the editing that made it clearer later. the leliest
10/10 good troll I would bite again.
There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE |
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