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Ab'del Abu
Atlantis Ascendant
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Posted - 2014.08.19 08:35:00 -
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CivilWars wrote:I demand that when I jump a gate in k space that I be in range to jump back, and not ~12km from the gate. This is an outrage that I am unable to immediately run away from any danger that may await me on the other side. #ccplease
You know, if there wasn't such a thing called polarization your comment would have been remotely funny :/ |

Axloth Okiah
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
493
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Posted - 2014.08.19 08:52:00 -
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Keith Planck wrote:This change enraged the wormhole community, the ability to not roll away dangerous holes, and an increase in the time it takes to rage-roll was not something players wanted. Despite nothing but negative feedback on the forums, the outcry not to go through with this change at the WH Town Hall, and the overwhelming consensus on strawpoll; CCP Fozzie has decided to ignore us and continue with the changes. This paragraph is bollocks. Plenty of people spoke up in support, the rage is not unanimous. So tone down your holy anger a bit please.
That being said, I fully support trolling the crap out of incursioners just for the hell of it. I dont think Fozzie will or even should back down (except the K162 delay thing), but making hisec carebears livid is always good.
W-Space Realtor |

Koh Eriker
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2014.08.19 09:58:00 -
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All the nullsec nerdrage in here is amusing. I like how they turn into the epitome of irony. Safe isk? Ok..
1. All gates in k-space should have polarization timers. 2. All cyno's and jump bridges should act depending on mass. 3. 85+% of the ships in null sites should warp scramble and heavy neut. 4. Remove local.
You know.. 'to shake things up' cuz that's why changes should occur. Or wait, you'd all probably twitch, spasm and ragequit if those changes happened. |

Sentamon
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
2101
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Posted - 2014.08.19 10:35:00 -
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Bear Wars! It's Happening. ~ Professional Forum Alt -á~ |

Dorn Val
Probe Patrol Ixtab.
180
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Posted - 2014.08.19 10:35:00 -
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Rek Seven wrote:I think the changes are good but this does sound like fun.
I'm in -sounds like getting a mission from a worm hole agent :) Sandbox: An enclosed area filled with sand for children engaged in open-ended, unstructured, imaginative play. Also a place for cats to urinate and defecate... |

Mizhir
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
66696
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Posted - 2014.08.19 11:00:00 -
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I find it funny that nullseccers just tell WHers to suck it up. If the same thing were added to cynos with supers spawning far away from each other and jump freigthers not landing within docking range, then the forums would explode.
Come on Fozzie. I dare you.
Keith Planck wrote:sleep tight my little threadnaught <3
Be careful that it doesn't get so heavy it will spawn in some random unused part of the eve forums. One Man Crew - Collective solo pvp |

Dorn Val
Probe Patrol Ixtab.
182
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Posted - 2014.08.19 11:10:00 -
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epicurus ataraxia wrote:Rek Seven wrote:epicurus ataraxia wrote: There is a big difference between design by committee, and being herded onto the train like cattle.
CCP say they want to make it harder for people to roll and close themselves off and some of the community are demanding that they go back on that plan. I just think it would be better if we give it a month to see how things work out. If it turns out people were right, you will get more people to take parts and CCP might take you seriously because you at least tried to live with the changes. Just get off the train and go into that room with the funny smell and the whirling knives and tell me how it is after a month, we can discuss it over a nice steak dinner. 
Yeah Rek how dare you bring logic and reason into this discussion?! WTF were you thinking M8  Sandbox: An enclosed area filled with sand for children engaged in open-ended, unstructured, imaginative play. Also a place for cats to urinate and defecate... |

Moo Moocow
Hard Knocks Inc.
34
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Posted - 2014.08.19 11:21:00 -
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Official Diplomat wrote:If voted to CSM in 2015 I will have CCP do the following: Step 1: Adjust the mass of the range you spawn from holes while in a capital 100km from hole Step 2: Add in a Capital Micro Jump Drive that you can use to get back on the hole Step 3: ??? Step 4: Profit
This man should be sitting on the csm. |

CivilWars
Rolled Out Triumvirate.
113
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Posted - 2014.08.19 14:04:00 -
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Ab'del Abu wrote:CivilWars wrote:I demand that when I jump a gate in k space that I be in range to jump back, and not ~12km from the gate. This is an outrage that I am unable to immediately run away from any danger that may await me on the other side. #ccplease You know, if there wasn't such a thing called polarization your comment would have been remotely funny :/ Do explain how polarization would affect me when I jump from system A to B, and want to immediately return to system A because there is a hostile gate camp in system B. We Re-Rolled. Stop by public channel Rolled Out to join the fun. |

Walker Ahashion
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
11
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Posted - 2014.08.19 14:19:00 -
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Never been in a WH, can someone explain what the "rolling away" part means and how these changes will be bad? Just looking for some context so I can follow the thread better. Thanks! |
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Stitcher
Alexylva Paradox Low-Class
3974
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Posted - 2014.08.19 14:19:00 -
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I think the OP is overstating the strength of the opposition. An in-character blog and a video: http://verinsjournal.blogspot.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu1mbsgo738
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Stitcher
Alexylva Paradox Low-Class
3974
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Posted - 2014.08.19 14:21:00 -
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Mizhir wrote:I find it funny that nullseccers just tell WHers to suck it up. If the same thing were added to cynos with supers spawning far away from each other and jump freigthers not landing within docking range, then the forums would explode.
Okay then: Speaking as a wormholer, HTFU.
An in-character blog and a video: http://verinsjournal.blogspot.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu1mbsgo738
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HerrBert
V0LTA Triumvirate.
498
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Posted - 2014.08.19 14:55:00 -
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Mizhir wrote:I find it funny that nullseccers just tell WHers to suck it up. If the same thing were added to cynos with supers spawning far away from each other and jump freigthers not landing within docking range, then the forums would explode. .
True Dat and as former Alliance Mate i can tell ya this... WE WANT EXACTLY THAT!!!!!!!!! Community-Challenge: Make Jack Miton sing a Duett with me. http://www.youtube.com/user/HerrBertism Jibbychiggawooooow - CSM 9 Corbexx
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Tiberizzle
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
49
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Posted - 2014.08.19 15:06:00 -
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CCP DONT U DARE MAKE UZ LEARN HW 2 ACTUALLY HUNT TARGITS ITS NOT FAIR 2 HAV REAL EFFORT AND RISK??
I SWEAR 2 GOD WE WIL GO KIL HISEC NPCS IF U DO THEN UR RLY GONNA BE FUQT LOL I DONT THINK UR RDY 2 DEAL WIT WUT WE CN DO !!! |

epicurus ataraxia
Lazerhawks
1079
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Posted - 2014.08.19 15:13:00 -
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Erufen Rito wrote:Official Diplomat wrote:If voted to CSM in 2015 I will have CCP do the following: Step 1: Adjust the mass of the range you spawn from holes while in a capital 100km from hole Step 2: Add in a Capital Micro Jump Drive that you can use to get back on the hole Step 3: ??? Step 4: Profit make the bpc droppable only from sleeper talochans.
Such fun if there was a Capital smartbomb with a 90km range. I cannot even begin to imagine.............
Edit;- pretend you didn't see that CCP might think it was a good idea, and think everyone wanted it! There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE |

epicurus ataraxia
Lazerhawks
1079
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Posted - 2014.08.19 15:14:00 -
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Tiberizzle wrote:CCP DONT U DARE MAKE UZ LEARN HW 2 ACTUALLY HUNT TARGITS ITS NOT FAIR 2 HAV REAL EFFORT AND RISK??
I SWEAR 2 GOD WE WIL GO KIL HISEC NPCS IF U DO THEN UR RLY GONNA BE FUQT LOL I DONT THINK UR RDY 2 DEAL WIT WUT WE CN DO !!!
"WOW DIZ IS 2 LAME NO MORE FRE KILZ" - ME WSPACE CORPIES LOL F U CCPEE
If one lightly taps the side of one's head with a rubber hammer it is possible to get the braincell back into the little cup. Good luck! There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE |

epicurus ataraxia
Lazerhawks
1079
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Posted - 2014.08.19 15:17:00 -
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HerrBert wrote:Mizhir wrote:I find it funny that nullseccers just tell WHers to suck it up. If the same thing were added to cynos with supers spawning far away from each other and jump freigthers not landing within docking range, then the forums would explode. . True Dat and as former Alliance Mate i can tell ya this... WE WANT EXACTLY THAT!!!!!!!!!
So long as it was a module you could fit, and player interaction destabilised the situation. It would be very interesting. If it was more blind luck crap, well I wouldn't wish it on my own worst enemy as it screws the game up for us all.
There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE |

Cara Forelli
Green Skull LLC
537
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Posted - 2014.08.19 15:18:00 -
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Capitals? Sites?? Don't you all see the real problem here? What if my bomber spawns too close to the hole and I can't cloak!?  www.ensignyooch.wordpress.com
New player with questions? Just want to chat? Join my public channel in game:-áHouse Forelli |

Borsek
Incertae Sedis
226
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Posted - 2014.08.19 15:19:00 -
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Tiberizzle wrote:CCP DONT U DARE MAKE UZ LEARN HW 2 ACTUALLY HUNT TARGITS ITS NOT FAIR 2 HAV REAL EFFORT AND RISK??
I SWEAR 2 GOD WE WIL GO KIL HISEC NPCS IF U DO THEN UR RLY GONNA BE FUQT LOL I DONT THINK UR RDY 2 DEAL WIT WUT WE CN DO !!!
"WOW DIZ IS 2 LAME NO MORE FRE KILZ" - ME WSPACE CORPIES LOL F U CCPEE
What's your current J-sig?
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epicurus ataraxia
Lazerhawks
1079
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Posted - 2014.08.19 15:22:00 -
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Official Diplomat wrote:Sentamon wrote:Can join protest for free loot? No we will be shooting all of the wrecks Niarja and udema would be a good place to start that. There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE |
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Borlag Crendraven
Arctic Light Inc. Arctic Light
472
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Posted - 2014.08.19 15:23:00 -
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Definitely will be joining the boycott by doing something I absolutely detest... That's really going to show them.
Or maybe not. As stated by some others, these changes might not be what we've asked, but they will be shaking things up and making things interesting again. Will it be better or worse in the big picture? Who knows, but it sure wont be safe, nor does it need to be. |

HerrBert
V0LTA Triumvirate.
498
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Posted - 2014.08.19 15:25:00 -
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Borlag Crendraven wrote:Definitely will be joining the boycott by doing something I absolutely detest... That's really going to show them.
Or maybe not. As stated by some others, these changes might not be what we've asked, but they will be shaking things up and making things interesting again. Will it be better or worse in the big picture? Who knows, but it sure wont be safe, nor does it need to be.
I miss you. My first Trialist. Community-Challenge: Make Jack Miton sing a Duett with me. http://www.youtube.com/user/HerrBertism Jibbychiggawooooow - CSM 9 Corbexx
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epicurus ataraxia
Lazerhawks
1080
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Posted - 2014.08.19 15:26:00 -
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Smarty MacGyver wrote:26th of August Hyperion Patchnotes right at the end:
- Strategic cruisers are now unable to enter any Incursion related sites (The Fozzie sends his regards) Would they be allowed to come into tournament sites? 
Uninvited There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE |

Bleedingthrough
Raptor Navy
101
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Posted - 2014.08.19 15:26:00 -
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Walker Ahashion wrote:Never been in a WH, can someone explain what the "rolling away" part means and how these changes will be bad? Just looking for some context so I can follow the thread better. Thanks!
"The Game of Mass" WHlers use the total mass limits of WHs to control the battlefield. In essence: if you win the game of mass you can fight groups that are much stronger than you.
"Roll Away" You put enough mass through a wandering WH or K162 to close it. It is then gone.
"Roll the Static" A method to force a new static into existence by putting enough mass through it so it collapses. A new static will spawn then. This serves various purposes: - find targets that are active - get a connection to a sieged WH you want to assist - seed dreads into a specific WH - find a logistic rout to HS. - find ratting carriers (if you got a null static)... |

HerrBert
V0LTA Triumvirate.
498
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Posted - 2014.08.19 15:29:00 -
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Game of Mass Community-Challenge: Make Jack Miton sing a Duett with me. http://www.youtube.com/user/HerrBertism Jibbychiggawooooow - CSM 9 Corbexx
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epicurus ataraxia
Lazerhawks
1080
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Posted - 2014.08.19 15:31:00 -
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Koh Eriker wrote:All the nullsec nerdrage in here is amusing. I like how they turn into the epitome of irony. Safe isk? Ok..
1. All gates in k-space should have polarization timers. 2. All cyno's and jump bridges should act depending on mass. 3. 85+% of the ships in null sites should warp scramble and heavy neut. 4. Remove local.
You know.. 'to shake things up' cuz that's why changes should occur. Or wait, you'd all probably twitch, spasm and ragequit if those changes happened. Whilst that would be completely fair then there would be two areas of space completely bolloxed.
Can they please take the manager who is thinking of these great new Psssssh ideas and lightly gift wrap him and drop him in the nearest post box? Do not bother including the return address. There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE |

Borlag Crendraven
Arctic Light Inc. Arctic Light
472
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Posted - 2014.08.19 15:32:00 -
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HerrBert wrote:Borlag Crendraven wrote:Definitely will be joining the boycott by doing something I absolutely detest... That's really going to show them.
Or maybe not. As stated by some others, these changes might not be what we've asked, but they will be shaking things up and making things interesting again. Will it be better or worse in the big picture? Who knows, but it sure wont be safe, nor does it need to be. I miss you. My first Trialist.
I kinda miss the early days of being in SSC too, the bullshit free time of just going out there and wasting those proteuses of mine, and a bunch of opponents in the process. No nonsense of political crap or egos getting in the way of having fun. |

epicurus ataraxia
Lazerhawks
1080
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Posted - 2014.08.19 15:34:00 -
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Paikis wrote:Hidden Fremen wrote:Paikis wrote:Bizzaro Stormy MurphDog wrote:Hell, let's really screw this up and just put ERRYONE like 15 km away from stargates! OR, we could really screw things up and have your spawn distance from gates and cynos based on mass too! Of course this would inconvenience the nullsec overlords and so it wont happen, but hey, if the stated intention of the mass changes is to shake things up, then by that same logic, this change should go in also. Welcome to 100 trolls ago. Trolls? I'm super serial! No really, I think this change would shake things up, and give CCP another opportunity to show their stoicism in the face of near total, universal discontent with their proposed changes!
You are confusing the terms, "shake things up" and "frog in a liquidiser" There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE |

Andrew Jester
Origin. Black Legion.
637
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Posted - 2014.08.19 15:38:00 -
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This thread is the gift that keeps on giving. Thank you Keith for doing something useful If thuggin' was a category I'd win a Grammy |

epicurus ataraxia
Lazerhawks
1080
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Posted - 2014.08.19 15:39:00 -
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Borsek wrote:Tiberizzle wrote:CCP DONT U DARE MAKE UZ LEARN HW 2 ACTUALLY HUNT TARGITS ITS NOT FAIR 2 HAV REAL EFFORT AND RISK??
I SWEAR 2 GOD WE WIL GO KIL HISEC NPCS IF U DO THEN UR RLY GONNA BE FUQT LOL I DONT THINK UR RDY 2 DEAL WIT WUT WE CN DO !!!
"WOW DIZ IS 2 LAME NO MORE FRE KILZ" - ME WSPACE CORPIES LOL F U CCPEE What's your current J-sig?
Too many numbers after the J so he never got home, he just had to live in nullsec where someone could keep an eye on him to make sure he didn't wander off. There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE |
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