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Nyxus
GALAXIAN
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Posted - 2006.07.20 14:09:00 -
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BEHOLD HIS MAGNIFICENCE!
Asgeir - Diety of Ship Models!!
<waynesworld> We're not worthy, we're not worthy! </waynesworld>
It is most interesting to note the more recent 2 entries.
The new Scythe! Flippers makes it oh so sectsy!
The new Burst. Battlestar Galactica meets duct tape!
Now I really love the 2 redesigns here. REALLY love them. I like the new ship designs in there as well. And since pretty much everyone here is a meddling backseat driver of the worst sort, I thought it would be interesting to see what ships folks thought need a facelift or redesign the most.
My prefs -
1) Augororer - it's like a cardboard box.....in space.....
2) Typhoon - Flying trashcans just don't do it for me. It, like the Apoc has texture issues as well but I don' think Asgeir, Patron Saint of HotnessÖ does that specific issue.
What ships do you think need a facelift?
Nyxus
 Originally by: Tux
The thought of a missile spewing armor tanking cool black looking ship makes me happy in the pants
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Jim Raynor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.20 14:11:00 -
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theyre all getting redesigned and updated
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Nikolai Nuvolari
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.20 14:28:00 -
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MOA!!!
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Jenny Spitfire
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.20 14:30:00 -
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Originally by: Nikolai Nuvolari
MOA!!!
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Tachy
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Posted - 2006.07.20 14:34:00 -
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The new Scythe lost a lot of its industrial look. Now it could be any ship type.
The Burst still looks like well, nothing usefull.
Phoon could use some texture fixing and a lil polishing. The effect when it is on fire stinks badly.
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Leandro Salazar
Aeon Industries
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Posted - 2006.07.20 14:35:00 -
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Meh they should make the Minnie shuttle the Burst if they think it needs a new model. And then make a new shuttle model.
And I second the Moa.
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Tachy
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Posted - 2006.07.20 14:47:00 -
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Leandro, that doesnt sound bad at all.
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Sheraad
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Posted - 2006.07.20 14:59:00 -
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Edited by: Sheraad on 20/07/2006 15:01:58
First time I ever saw a moa, I thought it looked pretty awesome. Then I realised I was looking at the back.
Ugly as hell, please overhaul oh god:
- I don't fly any variant of it, but the condor hull is hideous.
- Augoror, definitely with the OP on that one.
- Crucifier... asymmetrical I can handle, but it looks stupid in this instance.
- Punisher hull... yep, I don't like it. Chunkier and more aquiline please, looks like a golden gallente ship atm.
- Caracal. Again, I don't fly any variant of it, but it looks dumb as hell.
- Maller, sac looks awesome already but maller has an ugly texture and dubious model imo.
Good now, but can't wait to see revamped version:
- All battleships and nearly all cruisers 
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DeadlyBob
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.20 15:01:00 -
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The majority of the minnie ships... duck tape motif = fine, but minus the ruppie the vaga the rifter and ... the slep they all need an overhaul... I mean the Tempest is worse looking than the phoon
Galente ships... well letÆs see... mmm well they are all rather pretty.
Caldari um I actually like the MOA go figure. Just make it so the missile bays are like turrets and you can actually see them rotating and firing on the outside of the ships. Missiles spawning in the middle of my boat and flying out from nothing is kinda a pet peeve of mine.
Amarrian ships. I generally love them, 2 things I would fix, the maller (green eyebrows anyone? it just doesnÆt look right, the sacrilege got it right I think. The second is my personal pet peeve, the APOC, those spines that stick out of it like half finished parts of the death star look like minmatar engineering. I think just smoothing out the edges would do nicely as the ship has a nice look otherwise. I would also like to see the APOC's engines moved up so they are level with the center of mass of the ship... down where they are right now would be fine if the minmatar slaves they are using for construction contractors would fill in those gaps on the banana
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Pinky Denmark
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Posted - 2006.07.20 15:03:00 -
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The Moa should really get an overhaul - Ships grow on you but the Moa really deserves it...
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Tao Han
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.20 15:03:00 -
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Originally by: Nikolai Nuvolari
MOA!!!
But I honestly love the Moa... Dont change it to much 
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Celeste Storm
Elite United Corp
Antigo Dominion
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Posted - 2006.07.20 15:06:00 -
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Nyxus, this site is awesome!!!
Damn, is this just a fan work or something official? Excuse my question, but i would give a lot just to see some of the new models ingame.
And I also think next ship should be the phoon. Its just a great ship, that deserves some love. 
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PirateShampoo
Forsaken Empire
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Posted - 2006.07.20 15:08:00 -
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I quite like the Typhoon model has it is, it only needs a bit of fine tunning, The Tempest on the other had looks like **** it needs a major over haul.
If think Minmatar where the last race CCP must of designed cause half there ships look unfinished and rushed.
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Talasan
Apocalypse Enterprises
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Posted - 2006.07.20 15:10:00 -
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BELLICOSE for the love of god
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Omega Bloodstone
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Posted - 2006.07.20 15:13:00 -
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The MOA...looks like a bionic turkey and needs love badly.
The phoon...would not totally remove its garbage can look but the front of the ship needs love. Big hole sucks.
The rupture...the ol' nail gun...I dont know but something needs to be done.
The domi...its pretty cool looking if you are comparing it to a dingle berry or turd. Its so bad ars it could look a little more intimidating
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Kcel Chim
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.20 15:14:00 -
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imo first a texture fix is due.
Once all ships are 100% fine the:
Moa, Dominix (sorry i think it looks ugly like a whale), Augurorer, Brutix and some t1 frigs (amarr ones all look alike and some gallente ones look crappy) need a fix.
The typhoon could need some love here and there but in general you get used to the look. All t2 ships are generally well done.
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Yakov Krasnov
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.20 15:24:00 -
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Okay, so I'm a nitpicky b@st@rd. I'll admit that up front. I also love my Punisher, it's so freakin' beautiful I had to show the GF, and she thought it was pretty too. There is just one tiny little problem. Look at the wingtips. Get an angle so you are looking at the flat side of the wing directly. The wings have a GAP between the wingtips and the wings themselves. Nothing connects these wingtips to the wings that I can see. I can get with the whole duct tape and bubblegum look of the Minmatar, even some of the godawful asymmetry of the Caldari (Raven, Condor, and Blackbird = super ugly) but hovering wingtips?
Just a teensy bit of lovin' please. Another dozen polygons would do the trick.
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Ithildin
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.20 15:34:00 -
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What ship needs most urgent attention for a redesign? Caldari ships. All of them. And Minmatar ships. All of those, too.
Jokes aside, though, Dominix is first in place for urgent facelift procedures as it simply doesn't fit with the Gallentean designs (none of them, in fact, are fat, round and brown).
Most simple thing is that Gallente T1 ships have primary colours between teal and light brown. The Dominix is dark brown (otherwise the primary colour for Minmatar ships). The "older" Gallente models also tend to have a drawn-out look verging on the vertical, the Dominix tend to best be described as spherical.
Quite simply, it needs to reverse-inherit some of the Moros' and Brutix' looks.
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Posted - 2006.07.20 15:36:00 -
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Originally by: Celeste Storm
Nyxus, this site is awesome!!!
Damn, is this just a fan work or something official? Excuse my question, but i would give a lot just to see some of the new models ingame.
And I also think next ship should be the phoon. Its just a great ship, that deserves some love.
Its about as official as it'll get. I mean, what with the guy being chief artist for EVE or something along those lines...
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Nikolai Nuvolari
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.20 15:43:00 -
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Originally by: Ithildin
Dominix is first in place for urgent facelift procedures as it simply doesn't fit with the Gallentean designs (none of them, in fact, are fat, round and brown).
Dominix?
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Chi Prime
Millennium
E.R.A
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Posted - 2006.07.20 15:50:00 -
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Yeh, Dominix really needs a look at. (And the Moa too...)
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Redginald
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.20 15:56:00 -
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haha, the new Scythe looks like a speederbike from Star Wars :D
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Insomnium
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.20 16:01:00 -
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Awww but I like the old burst... The new scythe is evegasmic and i wouldn't mind seeing a somewhat improved Typhoon. (I just hope CCP retains the "made from junk" look that everybody just loves about the minmatar ships )
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Keta Min
Pre-nerfed Tactics
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Posted - 2006.07.20 16:03:00 -
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some textures could be improved but contrary to some opinions, tempest, phoon and auguror models are great. most minmatar ships have actually the best design in their class.
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Aramendel
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Posted - 2006.07.20 16:11:00 -
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Edited by: Aramendel on 20/07/2006 16:17:41
Originally by: Jim Raynor
theyre all getting redesigned and updated
Nope. All get updated slightly (higher-poly model, new textures, etc), but only a few get a complete redesign (complete NEW model).
Originally by: Nyxus
What ships do you think need a facelift?
Griffin
Augoror
Raven (although I bet many people will disagree with this one)
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Verizana
The Kru
Coalition of Carebear Killers
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Posted - 2006.07.20 16:13:00 -
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celestis, exequror, blackbird
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Rexthor Hammerfists
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.07.20 16:15:00 -
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Edited by: Rexthor Hammerfists on 20/07/2006 16:15:34
the crow, caracal and kestrel are in my opinion the only good lookin caldari ships,
i like the grey metal look,
but i think the weird blackbird is the best example of overdone nonasymetric style..
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Kollgorholl
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.20 16:20:00 -
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DOMINIX
it should look less like this and more like this.
Inside my mind.
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Dhaaka Vincatar
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Posted - 2006.07.20 17:03:00 -
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Overhaul all Caldari Cruisers :)
I liked the old Burst too. Oh well ;)
Ships NOT to overhaul: Slasher, Rifter, Stabber, Tristan, Incursus, Catalyst, Thorax, Megathron, Griffin, Merlin, Scorpion, Executioner, Inquisitor, Omen
Hulls that I like but others probably don't: Heron, Imicus (I love the bank of thrusters :), Probe, Crucifier, Arbitrator
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Dred 'Morte
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.20 17:11:00 -
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Caldari:
-need rocket tubes visible (KESTREL anyone?)
-those magical tubes under the Hawk (or is it Harpy?) wings have to be fixed
Gallente:
-Dominix, as already posted.
-Thorax engine (so the trail doesn't go trough parts of the ship)
Amarr:
-Maller, please remove those DAM BLOODY GREEN EYEBROWNS! I'm against travesttis...
-Apocalypse, just fixe those dam bloody textures and remove the "spikes"
-Punisher, it needs to look more like in the icon and less like it does in-space...
Minmatar:
-All ships except the Rifter need complete overhaul (to look more like their freighter and cyclone, etc)
-Shuttle, the worse case.
Those are some of the worse graphical problems I can remember. Generally speaking the textures and models of EVE are not that bad actually. We'll see what the upcoming graphic overhaul has to bring.
PS: I don't like the new Apocalypse. Looks like it is made of plastic. And the spikes now are huuuuuuge. 
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Tsanse Kinske
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.20 17:16:00 -
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Originally by: Leandro Salazar
Meh they should make the Minnie shuttle the Burst if they think it needs a new model. And then make a new shuttle model.
Not my idea but...switch the Minnie Shuttle with the Slasher model. W00t!
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Nafri
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.20 17:26:00 -
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Ships I flown and need some looking:
Bellicose, Stabber, Typhoon, Raven, Scorpion, Moa, Scythe, Osprey, Dominix, Megathron
basicly, lot of ships need a rework since you easily notice which were added later and which were desigend in a hurry.
Ships like Typhoon, Scorpion, Raven, Moa, Ospray lack details and texture works. Some ships like bellicose, stabber and Scythe are just ugly. And some Ships like Megathron and Dominix dont fit in the racial designt.
Especially Gallente got a full redesign on their newer ships, they just dont fit to the other ships anymore.
Dominix and Megathron have no real design counterparts.
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Casyus Quinn
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.20 17:27:00 -
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the choochoo train...i mean thrasher
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Vincent Gaines
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Posted - 2006.07.20 17:31:00 -
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make the raven and scorp symetrical.
the blackbird is just fine as it is.
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Guillame Herschel
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Posted - 2006.07.20 17:34:00 -
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Edited by: Guillame Herschel on 20/07/2006 17:37:17
Originally by: Yakov Krasnov
I also love my Punisher. There is just one tiny little problem. The wings have a GAP between the wingtips and the wings themselves. Nothing connects these wingtips to the wings that I can see.
The Inquisitor model also has some floating armor plates not connected to the ship. The Arbitrator model has some gaps in its textures that allow you to see right through it in some spots on the main hull, near the front edge of the armor plates that cover the engines.
I like the Dominix shape, I just wish it had a lighter color to it, and some more detailed textures on the rear end. The textures back there seem stretched out. I like that the rear end resembles a '57 Chevy. On my 16:9 monitor, the Dominix looks very nice and streamlined from certain angles.
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Tido Maliyu
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.07.20 17:57:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Originally by: Nikolai Nuvolari
MOA!!!
/signed
but i like my moa
i like the design, the graphics could use a boost though...
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Commander Thrawn
Fluffy rabbit killer's inc
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Posted - 2006.07.20 18:04:00 -
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I dont fly one but the Domi looks like a flying turd
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Wen Jaibao
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Posted - 2006.07.20 18:12:00 -
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All the minmitar ships, caldari cruisers, and the Domi.
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Talen Kross
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Posted - 2006.07.20 18:47:00 -
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Don't touch the matar ships!
/me hugs his Typhoon, Tempest, rifter and Rupture.
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Tsanse Kinske
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.20 19:15:00 -
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Originally by: Wen Jaibao
All the minmitar ships...
Heh. No way.
Even some of the ships I hated at first I'm starting to like. The Bellicose for instance is so freaking ugly it's almost cool.
And some of the models are awesome. Rifter of course. But also the Breacher, the Probe, the Tempest, the Thrasher.
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Gaius Sejanus
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.20 19:39:00 -
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Quote:
I dont fly one but the Domi looks like a flying turd
Yes, this is exactly what it looks like. It doesn't look like a potato or a whale...it looks like a giant piece of **** that got smooshed up against the side of the toilet bowl, and the person had to clamp down on it to squeeze it out which is why it is all skinny and conically trailed off in the back.
Throw the entire model away. Reskinning it isn't nearly enough.
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Zagarath
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Posted - 2006.07.20 19:40:00 -
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Make the Raven model bigger, so that it's actually a decent size compared to an apoc, considering it does weigh more, and maybe the gimped wing while your at it.
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Zagarath
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Posted - 2006.07.20 19:40:00 -
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Make the Raven model bigger, so that it's actually a decent size compared to an apoc, considering it does weigh more, and maybe the gimped wing while your at it.
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Anasur
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Posted - 2006.07.20 19:42:00 -
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Please make the Raven more symmetrical, it just looks weird from a lot of angles. The same goes for the scorpion.
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Shiori Asukai
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Posted - 2006.07.20 20:22:00 -
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Edited by: Shiori Asukai on 20/07/2006 20:25:58
Edited by: Shiori Asukai on 20/07/2006 20:24:13
The question is not what ships should be "fixed", the question is what ships NOT to "fix".
Minmatar:
Freighter
Carriers
Dread
Titan
Gallente:
Titan
Caldari:
Freighter (Best looking ship in all of EVE, imo)
Carriers
Dread
Titan
Amarr:
Freighter
Carriers
Dread
Titan
Everything else needs a total overhaul.
EDIT: While you're at it, make all stations 100 times bigger so they actually comes close to being realistic.
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Arcterran
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.20 20:24:00 -
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If the Augoror and Burst and some of the other lesser flown ships were graphically enhanced, would more people fly them? No.
A ship revamp would be awesome, but giving a junk ship a facelift doesn't make it better, just makes it a prettier piece of junk in space.
Oooooh look at the new Augoror <gets into the ship> Oh, it's still an Augoror.
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Nazowa
Dark Synergy Inc.
Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.07.20 20:27:00 -
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Leave Typhoon alone ! I love the looks of it :)
To me the ship that needs most help is Apoc simply. It looks so incomplete.
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Foulis
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.20 20:29:00 -
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switch the typhoon model with the mammoth model =D
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Boobies
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Nazowa
Dark Synergy Inc.
Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.07.20 20:32:00 -
[49]
please die
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Amarria Lightwielder
N.A.G.A Corporation
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Posted - 2006.07.20 21:00:00 -
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Edited by: Amarria Lightwielder on 20/07/2006 21:00:47
maller and apoc
and please make real turret mounts!!
it looks so silly to just have turrets seemingly bolted on to ship in strange locations :(
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Stamm
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.20 21:06:00 -
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The Zealot looks great from the front. Really, really good. Probably better than that.
However from the back it's awful. And when I'm in mine, apart from the times when I swing the ship around to look at the front (often), I'm staring at the rear end of it, and it's got an arse like Roseanne Barr :(
But more importantly there's a flashing blue light just under the armour plating on the front of it, that often shines through when the ship is rotated a bit.
As for other ships, the Maller and Punisher have shiny gold bits on them, they're fine - although the green bits on the Maller aren't too clever.
The executioner is a very nice model (only if it has guns on!)
The armageddon is really nice.
Augoror isn't too great. Arbitrator is a great model too, especially the curse variant.
And another great model for us is the Inquisitor/Purifier.
The cruicifier is a heap of rubbish - but I think that's intentional.
The Apocalypse is sadly lacking, it really could use a bit of shiny metal on it.
But the most important thing is fixing my Zealot. Never mind the Gallente, Matari or Caldari whines. Amarr are the most important!
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Admiral Pieg
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.20 21:06:00 -
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please, for the love of god, remake the dominix
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Sarmaul
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.07.20 21:09:00 -
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I wouldn't mind if the tempest lost it's giant square base and looked a bit more like a pirate ship being reflected in water.
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Imode
Band of Builders Inc.
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.07.20 21:20:00 -
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Caldari ships need more (not complete, just more) symmetry and more detail overall. The Raven and Scorpion have too many plain flat surfaces. The overall shape of the two battleship are very inspired and original, but both lack detail, symmetry and a little bit of size. Look at the Ferox and Cormorant for inspiration. While you're at it, make the Chimera larger. Merlin and Kestrel hulls are beautiful, leave them alone. Fix the Condor hull, drastically redesign the Griffin with the crazy side jet plumes.
Gallente ships are a mixed bag. Ships like the Brutix, Thorax and Megathron are wonderful. Vexor and Dominix are very nice, but need more detail. Going farther down the chain, almost all of the Gallente frigates look horrible except for the Incursus and Maulus hull.
Minmatar, I don't know where to begin. More detail for one. TBH, I used to hate minmatar, but the look has grown on me. I think all they really need is more detail, and maybe a bit more color.
Amarr have some sweet designs. The shape of the Prophecy from 3/4 view = t3h awesome. Side profile = f4t turkey. Either stretch it out, or make it go on a diet. Punisher hull is awesome, except increase the angle that the wings sweep down at, so that the ship is flatter. Executioner = sex. Leave it. Either that or give the slicer hull to the executioner, and change the slicer. The other 2 horshshoe frigates need a big change, Torment and Inquisitor. Absolutely awful. Anathema hull... awful. If any single race screams for complete symmetry in ship design, it's these guys.
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Posted - 2006.07.20 21:51:00 -
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I fly Amarr ships. The models are good, but most of them are flawed. Please repair:
1. Punisher. The end of each wing isn't connected to the hull. Upper front guns aren't connected to the hull. Best seen on artillery.
2. The ECM amarr frig (don't remember the name) A polygon in it's nose is missing. looks werid.
3. Omen. the front right side gun is apart from the hull. The front armor plating doesn't have any texture on it's inner side, and is transparent under certain angles.
4. Arbitrator. The 2 symmetrical polygons missing from the sides of the ship are inside it's glass drone bay.
5. Bestower. No textures on jet exhausts.
Most of amarrian ships have the problem with jet flames coming out not of exhausts, but near (or not near) them. On NPC Catalyst it is awesome )
And guys, if you want to rewrite certain models, please take into account common logic.
1. Ships are usually built of more or less standartised modules. Why on earth would amarrian navy pay for a ship with 4 or 5 different engines (different size and form of exhausts)
a) Oval exhausts is nonsense.
b) a ship should have one or 2 engines, not more. Look at navy ships, combat airplanes. If there are separate warp and maneuver engines, make them look different.
c) Engines should propel a ship forwards. that's why the force must be applied to the center of mass. Besides, an engine is a massive module, and it needs to be well-protected. So no jets on the "outskirts" of a ship.
d) manevuer engines. Show them, they must be there! A ship can neither stop by itself in space, nor turn that fast without them (a big stopping engine, and a handful of turning engines around the hull, turning on when spinning or stopping).
2. The surface of a ship should tend to be as small as possible, approaching spheric form, because of turning overloads and attempt to make armor coating thicker with the same mass. If there are "sticking out" parts of a ship, their purpose must be clear. (sensors, manevuer engines)
3. Again, there must not be any element of a ship model placed there for "looking stylish" only. These are combat ships, not christmas trees with sparkling lights (and hanging rubbish and wide open inner structure). They will look better without it for sure.
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Copine Callmeknau
RillaCorp
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Posted - 2006.07.20 22:00:00 -
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For gods sake keep the Slasher, Rifter, Stabber, Rupture, Cyclone and Typhoon the way they are. Best looking ships around imo.
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Nemain
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.20 22:13:00 -
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Edited by: Nemain on 20/07/2006 22:18:27
Looks to me like the Min designs are getting to look more like amarr ships without the armour plates (or flat ones where they would be rounded on amarr ships) with a few solar sails strpped on. Kind of makes sense that they would tho being as how amarr ships are built by Matari slaves.
Personally I'd like to see the reworked Crucifier, Augoror, typhoon, Moa (just make it less chunky), Prophecy (same as the moa, just flatten it a bit, so it doen't look like an overweight chicken hawk), dominix and all gally ships to look more organic (the new megathron looks like it has leather skin which is perfect in my view)
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Nikolai Nuvolari
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.20 22:23:00 -
[58]
Originally by: Nemain
Looks to me like the Min designs are getting to look more like amarr ships without the armour plates (or flat ones where they would be rounded on amarr ships) with a few solar sails strpped on.
They're not solar sails, they're LADAR sensor arrays.
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Nemain
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.20 23:03:00 -
[59]
Originally by: Nikolai Nuvolari
Originally by: Nemain
Looks to me like the Min designs are getting to look more like amarr ships without the armour plates (or flat ones where they would be rounded on amarr ships) with a few solar sails strpped on.
They're not solar sails, they're LADAR sensor arrays.
The voice in my head says solar sails, thats 2 against, so there 
Anyway what sort of stupidy would put your sensors on huge pannels that are very thinly connected to your ships hull. No wonder amarr never designed their ships for EW, they just shoot the damn things of the matari ships and so never have to worry about being shot at back. Also kind of explains how they were so easily enslaved
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Nyxus
GALAXIAN
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Posted - 2006.07.20 23:16:00 -
[60]
Originally by: Nikolai Nuvolari
Originally by: Nemain
Looks to me like the Min designs are getting to look more like amarr ships without the armour plates (or flat ones where they would be rounded on amarr ships) with a few solar sails strpped on.
They're not solar sails, they're LADAR sensor arrays.
I am sorry, but this is just not true.
They are solar sails so Matari pirates can sail about the galaxy playing with thier peg legs and talking to thier parrots (Matari and parrots have about the same IQ fyi). They are fast ships because everything that makes a people "civilized" has fallen off due to crappy engineering and overuse of duck tape. Think Kevin Costners ship in "WaterWorld". Old crappy, with a port-a-potty strapped to the side that hasn't been emptied in months.
FFS of course Matari are pirates who sail around. They even wear sunglasses to protect thier eyes from the glare off the water. Anyone can see that.
Nyxus
Originally by: Tux
The thought of a missile spewing armor tanking cool black looking ship makes me happy in the pants
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Traeon
SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2006.07.20 23:21:00 -
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Dominix.. looks like a flyig turd on wheels, with flies (drones) orbiting it.
Exequror, Bellicose, Moa, Maller need love too
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OrangeAfroMan
Suffoco Noctis
Atrocitas
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Posted - 2006.07.20 23:22:00 -
[62]
Originally by: Foulis
switch the typhoon model with the mammoth model =D
That would make me quite happy ^^ The Mammoth looks much more like a battleship, and the typhoon looks like a hauler tbh... Front loading bay.....
And yes the butt-end of the Omen/Zealot look horrible :( Big fat and round...
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Traeon
SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2006.07.20 23:22:00 -
[63]
Matari ships could be a little bit more compact also, and amarr ships often have bad texturing.
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O'Sirius
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.20 23:39:00 -
[64]
I dunno why everyone is complaining about Apoc. Its one of the best looking ships imho.
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Guillame Herschel
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Posted - 2006.07.21 00:20:00 -
[65]
Originally by: Kollgorholl
DOMINIX
it should look less like this and more like this.
No No! It should look more like this:
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Lorette
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.21 00:40:00 -
[66]
I dont think the dominix should get a radical change, just a good pimpage 
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Guillame Herschel
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Posted - 2006.07.21 00:54:00 -
[67]
Fuzzy dice and neon under the frame, now you're talkin'!
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Luc Boye
Evolution
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.07.21 01:30:00 -
[68]
Im tired of how they designed gallente ships so far (well apart from vexor, thorax and megathron). It's usually "ok this race has to look different... let's say organic... but I have no clue, so I'll just pile a bunch of pixels and end up with something looking like giant floating turd."
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Hllaxiu
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.07.21 01:56:00 -
[69]
Originally by: Luc Boye
Im tired of how they designed gallente ships so far (well apart from vexor, thorax and megathron). It's usually "ok this race has to look different... let's say organic... but I have no clue, so I'll just pile a bunch of pixels and end up with something looking like giant floating turd."
The incursus, brutix, maulus and b-wing look ok too...
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Nikolai Nuvolari
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.21 02:02:00 -
[70]
Originally by: Nemain
Anyway what sort of stupidy would put your sensors on huge pannels that are very thinly connected to your ships hull.
The kind that leads you to choose LADAR sensors for your ship?
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Luc Boye
Evolution
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.07.21 02:02:00 -
[71]
maybe but dominix and moros are bloody awful.
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SengH
Black Omega Security
E.R.A
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Posted - 2006.07.21 02:33:00 -
[72]
the wreathe needs a redesign imho... it looks like a poorly modeled tree branch that no one could be arsed to finish.
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Tsanse Kinske
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.21 03:01:00 -
[73]
Originally by: SengH
the wreathe needs a redesign imho... it looks like a poorly modeled tree branch that no one could be arsed to finish.
C'mon, the Wreathe is a steam locomotive, obviously. Who doesn't love a ch0o-ch0o?
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Sorja
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Posted - 2006.07.21 03:08:00 -
[74]
Moa/Eagle are among the best looking ships in the game (read: the most originals).
They suck, but don't change their look
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Nyxus
GALAXIAN
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Posted - 2006.07.21 03:45:00 -
[75]
Originally by: Guillame Herschel
Originally by: Kollgorholl
DOMINIX
it should look less like this and more like this.
No No! It should look more like this:
[url=http://www.isnnews.net/hyperspace/narn/narnstcr.jpg]Narnsaryarrrr![/url]
Actally that should be Amarr BS droneboat. Notice how the Arbitrator and Curse vaguely resemble it in shape and the booster at the end?
It even has a drone bat at the front! Color it gold and it would be perfect!
Nyxus
Originally by: Tux
The thought of a missile spewing armor tanking cool black looking ship makes me happy in the pants
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Jarra Wixx
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Posted - 2006.07.21 03:55:00 -
[76]
Originally by: Tsanse Kinske
Originally by: SengH
the wreathe needs a redesign imho... it looks like a poorly modeled tree branch that no one could be arsed to finish.
C'mon, the Wreathe is a steam locomotive, obviously. Who doesn't love a ch0o-ch0o?
Ever stop and thing about how big that headlight is on the on wreathe and how bright it must be? And...well, the point of it?
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Anasur
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Posted - 2006.07.21 03:59:00 -
[77]
The Caracal model is also nice.
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Anasur
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Posted - 2006.07.21 03:59:00 -
[78]
The Caracal model is also nice.
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Breed Love
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.21 04:27:00 -
[79]
For some reason few people seem to mention megathron model and textures. They just suck. The shape is great, but the model is lowpoly and textures very low res (compare it to a brutix for instance). Luckily, its getting a nice upgrade in kali 1, they are making it darker and more detailed. The pic is in eon#4.
What really worries me is that these two supercool headlights on its front seem to be gone from the new model. I'd say thats the coolest part of the megathron model, they should really keep them!
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Nikolai Nuvolari
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.21 06:03:00 -
[80]
Originally by: Sorja
Moa/Eagle are among the best looking ships in the game (read: the most originals).
LSD is bad for you.
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Armi Tage
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.21 06:13:00 -
[81]
Raven, would be nice to be able to fly one without forcing my eyes to look at it, Moa to. Don't touch the Condor + variants, one of the few cal ships that looks really decent, beside the Scorpion.#
Osprey is ugly to, as is the BB
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Kilael Jaase
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2006.07.21 06:39:00 -
[82]
For me, the Megathron just doesn't "fit" with the Gallente look, it just doesn't look right!
There are far too many ships that need a haul, the most important IMHO is the Moa... that is the ugliest ship i've ever seen.
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Knoppaz
Union of Corvus Corax
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Posted - 2006.07.21 07:25:00 -
[83]
Don't touch the Wreathe! (except maybe for an update in polygon count)
Oh and same goes for the Blackbird..
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Reto
The Last Resort
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Posted - 2006.07.21 08:51:00 -
[84]
Domi is looking like one of those ships from dune - the motion picture (the 1980s one, not the new remake)i kinda like the style and its looking like a control ship for drones. only thing they could change is some sort of openings on the bottom looking like drone exhaust bays or somert. but imo the overall style is fitting into gallente starship design.
Originally by: s4mp3r0r
"Hey man, you're mom has a cruise missile".
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Vincent Gaines
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Posted - 2006.07.21 11:58:00 -
[85]
the scorpion should have another wing added so it actually resembles its namesake
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MeatFist
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Posted - 2006.07.21 14:07:00 -
[86]
Edited by: MeatFist on 21/07/2006 14:13:10
Quote:
the scorpion should have another wing added so it actually resembles its namesake
I agree 100%, a second wind on the right hand side of the scorp would make me moist... simple as that. IÆve always liked the design but that second wing would put it over the edge.
As for other ships that need to be touched upà
Merlin:
IÆm not sure if anyone else has noticed, but the Merlin hull design is flawed (merlin, hawk, harpy), if you do not equip any guns youÆll notice on the tips of the wings there are flat pads for turret hard points. With out the mentioned turrets equipped it just looks off. Other wise a great ship, so get rid of the pads.
Ferox:
This ship model its self is just fine, but I believe it needs a retexturing. Compared to other Caldari ships it just seems like the odd one out.
Dominx:
It looks like a floating pile of assà enough said.
Most of the other ships in game could use some updating in terms of the texture and such but I rather enjoy the actual designs (yes even the typhoon). IÆve always been impressed with the in game design and I donÆt really want to see man radical changes.
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Greenbolt
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Posted - 2006.07.21 14:53:00 -
[87]
Dominatrix and Typhoon are by far the two ugliest ships I can name.
Followed by the Bellicose . I would love to see those upgraded/updated.
Just please dont change the rifter/wolf/jaguar design much. those are my favorite looking ships in the game.
I actually like the probe too...it looks like a sailing ship but its grown on me.
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Pattern Clarc
Dark Destiny Inc.
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Posted - 2006.07.21 15:01:00 -
[88]
All Caldari Cruisers Bar None need comeplete redesigns
The ravens and scorps probably don't but compared to the capital ships and the tier 3 bs design, (which I LOVE) don't fit right for me and probably means i'll never fly them.
The Domi and Mega don't need total redesigns but detailing in both models and textures.
Gallenete frigs and cruisers need extra details also but there base designs are amongts the best in the game (Tristan FTW)
Gallente Tier 3 BS????? (shrugs.)
Minitar ships. omg!
Rutpure, throw that barbage collector model to the deepest depths of dead space please.... I wanna fly it some day, but right now, it's too damn ugly.
Same with all the other mimi cruiser hulls, bar maybe the belcose.
The Cyclone is bueatiful however.
Amarr
Meh...
Cosmetic improvements would be enough. If all Amarr ships looked more like there Navy variants then i'd probably fly them more often.
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Tsun Lao
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Posted - 2006.07.21 15:08:00 -
[89]
Badger I
Maller
Crucefier
ibis
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KALEN ACHURAN
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.21 15:34:00 -
[90]
Please please re-skin the Caracal. It is so ass ugly that I will not fly it. Kestrels FTW (and you know it) The new caldari BC is amazing looking it is the same size/ shape on each side...WTF did the Caldari builders get together with Amarr buidlers and discuss ship styles/ appearance?
*please let a covert ops ship use a covert ops cloaking device...It just makes sense*
*Bombers need baby love too*
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Nikolai Nuvolari
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.21 15:52:00 -
[91]
Originally by: MeatFist
Merlin:
IÆm not sure if anyone else has noticed, but the Merlin hull design is flawed (merlin, hawk, harpy), if you do not equip any guns youÆll notice on the tips of the wings there are flat pads for turret hard points. With out the mentioned turrets equipped it just looks off. Other wise a great ship, so get rid of the pads.
It's fine on the Merlin, because you SHOULD have turrets there...if you don't have any, then you're kind of a dimwit and deserve to have the hardpoints sticking out...the problem is on the HARPY...the guns don't go there, so even when the ship is fully fitted, they still stick out.
Also, it would be great if they made the Ferox symmetrical...it's SO close to symmetrical that you just KNOW it was originally designed to be symmetrical, and then somebody said "No, you HAVE TO make it asymmetrical Jon!" and he said "Aw crap, do I have to?" so he just changed the angle on the pylons on the side.
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Linavin
Mercurialis Inc.
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.07.21 16:15:00 -
[92]
exequror
Uglier than the Moa
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I found the rock music button!
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Nikolai Nuvolari
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.21 16:56:00 -
[93]
Originally by: Linavin
Uglier than the Moa
Impossible.
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Erik Pathfinder
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.21 18:26:00 -
[94]
Originally by: Nikolai Nuvolari
Originally by: Linavin
Uglier than the Moa
Impossible.
Well, it is Gallente
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Dhaaka Vincatar
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Posted - 2006.07.21 20:38:00 -
[95]
Whoever said that comment about the Griffin side exhausts is absolutely right, and I totally forgot about it :) Remove em!
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Divus
Hybrid Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.07.21 22:18:00 -
[96]
scythe is ok imho - nobody uses it anyway :D but hey the bellicose is soooo ******* ugly bwwwaaa.... never would fly one, honest - glad nobody can see me in my rapier! cloak ftw :D
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Ralus
eXceed Inc.
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.07.21 22:31:00 -
[97]
griffin, sidyways pointing thrusters ftl
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Serious Bob
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Posted - 2006.07.21 22:47:00 -
[98]
I think they should just cut off the last two segments of the Ferox. It would look so hot.
Don't touch my Badger Mk. II though!
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Virida
Mindstar Technology
United Confederation of Corporations
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Posted - 2006.07.21 22:59:00 -
[99]
Tempest and Mega is two good designed ships, i like the elongated and classical "starblazer" ish appearance of mega(look at the human support cruicers in the anime).
typhoon is ok, quite ok. its supposed to be a scaffolding of junk armors, id suggest putting visible pieces of other ships there or something.
Amarr ships is WERY good.
Moa.... i fly it, aaand, i think it looks as a dodo
Dominix need more, precence, elegance. It needs to look more "elegant" somehow, but, the weird round shape is ok.
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Jacob Holland
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Posted - 2006.07.22 00:36:00 -
[100]
Exequeror, I don't think it needs a big change but increasing its symetry (removing the lower engine pod or duplicating it on the other side) and a bit of a tweak to the nose is about all the basic shape of the model needs. Most (if not all) of the other problems will disappear when it's resurfaced.
Thorax, it doesn't need doing really but I'd love to see it mirrored and the two versions superimposed and welded together, a minor tweak to the "hollow" side section and there you have it - the best looking cruiser in the game just got sexier (and because it would have two pods underneath even the people who like to take the mickey out of its shape will be happy ).
Dominix, a lot of things about the Domi work very well indeed... but somehow the sum of the parts is greater than the whole. I'd like to see it take some "insiration" from the design of the Nyx.
Moa, full redesign.
Prophecy, from above it's a cool ship, from astern that huge bank of engines looks great, from forward it works... from the side it definitely needs a diet of a session or two on the rack.
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Ange1
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.22 01:16:00 -
[101]
I'd love to see our Nyx get a makeover so it looks darker, meaner and more like a Pirate Nyx Mothership 
The Establishment is at your service...
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Shiori Asukai
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Posted - 2006.07.22 01:33:00 -
[102]
Originally by: Tranklukator
I fly Amarr ships. The models are good, but most of them are flawed. Please repair:
1. Punisher. The end of each wing isn't connected to the hull. Upper front guns aren't connected to the hull. Best seen on artillery.
2. The ECM amarr frig (don't remember the name) A polygon in it's nose is missing. looks werid.
3. Omen. the front right side gun is apart from the hull. The front armor plating doesn't have any texture on it's inner side, and is transparent under certain angles.
4. Arbitrator. The 2 symmetrical polygons missing from the sides of the ship are inside it's glass drone bay.
5. Bestower. No textures on jet exhausts.
Most of amarrian ships have the problem with jet flames coming out not of exhausts, but near (or not near) them. On NPC Catalyst it is awesome )
And guys, if you want to rewrite certain models, please take into account common logic.
1. Ships are usually built of more or less standartised modules. Why on earth would amarrian navy pay for a ship with 4 or 5 different engines (different size and form of exhausts)
a) Oval exhausts is nonsense.
b) a ship should have one or 2 engines, not more. Look at navy ships, combat airplanes. If there are separate warp and maneuver engines, make them look different.
c) Engines should propel a ship forwards. that's why the force must be applied to the center of mass. Besides, an engine is a massive module, and it needs to be well-protected. So no jets on the "outskirts" of a ship.
d) manevuer engines. Show them, they must be there! A ship can neither stop by itself in space, nor turn that fast without them (a big stopping engine, and a handful of turning engines around the hull, turning on when spinning or stopping).
2. The surface of a ship should tend to be as small as possible, approaching spheric form, because of turning overloads and attempt to make armor coating thicker with the same mass. If there are "sticking out" parts of a ship, their purpose must be clear. (sensors, manevuer engines)
3. Again, there must not be any element of a ship model placed there for "looking stylish" only. These are combat ships, not christmas trees with sparkling lights (and hanging rubbish and wide open inner structure). They will look better without it for sure.
Listen to this man! He speaks teh truth!
The "center of mass"-thing has annoyed me to hell ever since my first trial >.<
Also, as someone else posted earlier, make realistic turret mounts dammit! RABBLE
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Kayden Drake
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.22 01:34:00 -
[103]
First, the nitpicky. The harpy and the hawk need to get their turret points moved to the wingtips and head like the merlin cuz w/o turrets there, the ship just looks dumb, but with them o so sweet. The Maller needs to get the wiregriding removed from the little antenna things on the end of the wings (look real close and you see a little wireframe "box" around them, has bugged me whenever Ive flown one). The gap in the punishers wings also needs to be filled in. Id also like it if all the engine ports off the back of the brutix actually gave off some flame/trail. I picked one up yesterday and it looked like only 1/2 of them were "on". Annoyed me. The megathron is a good looking ship as well, but SOMETHING about it has always made me think more of a luxury cruise liner than a battleship. Maybe give the roundness of its bottom-end more jagged like the front. No big deal here though
Second, the close but not quite there. The apoc needs a goddamn back end. The front looks so sweet but the back... it looks like the minmatar slaves went on strike before they could finish it. The prophecy needs something about its "belly" done as well. The ship looks amazing when looking at it from the top, but when viewed sideways looks like a pregnant chicken. And it might be just me with this, but i think that leg on the thorax needs to go too. The ship looks incredible besides that.
Third, the unsalvageable. Raven, Moa, Caracal. Omg please. Moa most of all. I dont know WHAT was going through the designers head (or what he was on) when he drew this, but it looks... i cant even think of an ugly enough example. REVAMP. The Caracal just looks dumb as hell. Looks like a geometry project of mine when I was playing with right angles in middleschool. I guess the "dagger" look at the very tip is ok, but the rest has to go. The Raven is just ugly, and the only thing right about it is that it almost looks like it has a wingspan. The whole model has to go but whatever replaces it has to have that big winged look as well. Its supposed to look "Majestic", how about actually making it look that way. Some say the dominix too. I can see that, it looks like a giant turd. But the fact that it looks "fat" in some way is ok with me because after all, its a drone ship. I expect there to be some sense of a huge cavity in it. But it looks too fat and round and brown.
I know thats a lot to say but ive been *****ing about these things since the start of the game and i NEED TO VENT. thanks
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Alaric Rurk
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Posted - 2006.07.22 02:39:00 -
[104]
Please when doing these ship remodelings, fix the scale as well.
Scythe/Scimitar: the new one looks really good compared to the present one.
Exequeror: better texture and fewer "windows" please!
Omen: great front end, but I always end up looking at its beetle-like behind when warping. Please fix the back.
Prophecy: too fat, please put it on a modest diet.
Caracal: too skinny, please put it on a healthy diet.
Blackbird: oddly I don't mind this lump of metal except that the windows suggests it could hold about 40,000 people.
Moa: *anything* would be any improvement. |
Noriath
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Posted - 2006.07.22 03:06:00 -
[105]
Edited by: Noriath on 22/07/2006 03:08:03
Originally by: Alaric Rurk
Exequeror: better texture and fewer "windows" please!
Huh? The windows are sweet, the Exequror has a good sense of scale because of the windows, one of the few ships in Eve that gives away just how big it really is...
I would much rather see a symetrical engine configuration then less windows. Like take the side with one engine and duplicate it on the other side, then take the side with the giant arm coming down and make a version with two of those for the tech 2... Now that would be sweet :D
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Zagarath
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Posted - 2006.07.22 03:52:00 -
[106]
Fix the Ravens gimp wing, and make it symetrical(or close enough), so it actually looks like a Raven, with even sized wings. Also, increase the size of the model, as as it stands it's weighs in 2.5 tons more then the Apoc, but the Apoc is almost 2x its size. Its also one of the smallest battleships, considering its mass is more than any of the ones larger than it.
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Bellum Eternus
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Posted - 2006.07.22 04:34:00 -
[107]
Where do I begin? Soooo many ships need to be completely redesigned-
DOMINIX- omg, it's horrible to look at. So bad that I don't fly one just out of principle, regardless of how effective it is in pvp.
Typhoon- same thing. Tempest- same. Moa- just... ya, horrible. Blackbird- yep needs fixing. Etc. etc. etc.
Every non bilaterally symmetric ship could use a redesign to make it a little more symmetric and asthetically pleasing. So many ships have such poor proportions. They don't have to be 100% symmetric, like the Incursus, it's 90% symmetric w/ it's one probe thing adding some detail. Stuff like that is great. Stuff like the Moa is not.
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Nikolai Nuvolari
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.22 05:05:00 -
[108]
Originally by: Zagarath
Also, increase the size of the model, as as it stands it's weighs in 2.5 tons more then the Apoc, but the Apoc is almost 2x its size. Its also one of the smallest battleships, considering its mass is more than any of the ones larger than it.
The Scorpion is even worse...smaller than the Raven, but heavier. It's actually the smallest of the eight battleships, AND the heaviest.
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mj caboose
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Posted - 2006.07.22 05:44:00 -
[109]
Domi just cut of the bottum and put a drone bay like on the minatra Mother ship in its place easy fix ftw
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Jacinto Naysmith
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.22 07:32:00 -
[110]
Edited by: Jacinto Naysmith on 22/07/2006 07:34:22
Originally by: Vincent Gaines
the scorpion should have another wing added so it actually resembles its namesake
Here's a quick mock up I did of (what I think) you're talking about. I've wondered for a long time why they didn't make it like this in the first place, because it looks a TON better.
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/3638/newscorp8qe.jpg
Almost all of the older ships need some touching up. Most of them have a good enough basic design, but need some miner modifications such as recoloring, some changes to geometry, and some nicer looking textures. Also asymmetry can look great for ship designs, but sadly CCP just can't seem to get it right. The ships end up looking unbalanced and silly instead of interesting.
The (I'm assuming new) concept artist for the new ships is getting it right fairly often. I think they've really captured the feel for the various race's ship design philosophy far better then the previous ship designer (or if its the same person, they're now getting it right). Because of this I'd like to see some reworking of the previous ship designs to make them more in line with the new ones.
For example, the gunmetal grey and blue windows on the tier3 caldari bs works wonderfully. It has a professional military no-nonsense look to it, which fits the corporate military mindset of the caldari far better then the asymmetrical rusty brown ships of the past.
As for the Amarr, their new battleship captures them perfectly too. It has a large aggressive looking beak and rows of guns, and the curved armored sides look like they could shrug off tons of punishment.
The new minmatar ships look angular and rather low tech/industrial, but somehow manage to look sleek and fast at the same time.
The gallente ships seem to not really have any sort of coherent philosophy in ship design. At first I thought this was a problem, but now I think its great. The Gallente are a federation of many peoples, and as such there's a significant variety in their ship designs. Yet despite fairly different designs (compare the dom and the mega) they all maintain a rounded and slightly organic look to them.
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Glyn Davish
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Posted - 2006.07.22 08:17:00 -
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Most of you people have ZERO imagination.
"DUR DUR DUR MAKE EVERYTHING SYMMETRICAL LOL"
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Jacinto Naysmith
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.22 09:33:00 -
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Originally by: Glyn Davish
Most of you people have ZERO imagination.
"DUR DUR DUR MAKE EVERYTHING SYMMETRICAL LOL"
Asymmetry can make things look more interesting, however CCP just takes it too far. In the end the ships just look unbalanced, unpractical, and just plain and silly. A decent example of asymmetry would be the thorax, as even though its asymmetrical the ship doesn't look unbalanced. A terrible example would be the Scorpion, where 3/4ths of the ship is one one side, it just looks awkward and unuseable.
Another space game developer, Relic, has designed a number of asymmetrical ships in which the asymmetry makes them more interesting, yet not silly and unpractical. Some examples:
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/7830/akicfrigateroughvz5.jpg
http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/4373/carrier2wp0.jpg
http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/5535/01gw3.jpg
http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/6413/hw2comps11rcvfightermg7.jpg
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/1505/homeworld216pe1.jpg
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Cohkka
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Posted - 2006.07.22 11:26:00 -
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Minmatar don't need a facelift, I think they're all great looking (well the Phoon can
use some slight changes and the Rupture just looks like a piece of cake).
Dominix needs a new model badly, doesn't fit into the Gallente shema.
I kinda like the Caldari design, maybe Moa needs chnges the rest looks ok, imo.
Amarr have some great looking ships. The Apoc needs more textures but otherwise it's
a great looking ship.
On a contrary I don't like most of the capital ship designs, they all looks weird
appart from the Nyx.
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Agnar Koladrov
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.22 11:51:00 -
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The Scythe redesign looks good but I think it be better if we keep the original model and added the new model as a MKII modernized Scythe design. So old design would remain the mining version and the could fill an other direction.
All ship though could use a facelift, in the form of a CORRECT turret placement on the models and a few others a total model facelift. Like the Scythe had and Bellicose should get!
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Nikolai Nuvolari
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.22 17:58:00 -
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Originally by: Jacinto Naysmith
Originally by: Vincent Gaines
the scorpion should have another wing added so it actually resembles its namesake
Here's a quick mock up I did of (what I think) you're talking about. I've wondered for a long time why they didn't make it like this in the first place, because it looks a TON better.
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/3638/newscorp8qe.jpg
HOLY CRAP!
If you just make the "tail" section a bit more centered, that would be one of the best designs in all of EVE, I had no IDEA the Scorpion could look so good *drools*
Originally by: Glyn Davish
Most of you people have ZERO imagination.
"DUR DUR DUR MAKE EVERYTHING SYMMETRICAL LOL"
Asymmetry can have a purpose, but in EVE it seems to be implemented just for the hell of it, with no rhyme or reason.
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Tranklukator
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Posted - 2006.07.23 12:34:00 -
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When building a ship, adding any part to the model, always ask "why?". And if the answer is "It looks so cool" then erase it.
Make turrets bigger. They are the purpose of the ship, the reason of it. Why are they so small ? Look at naval battleships and main caliber towers, hold the same proportion.
Remove any unnecessary elements. Why windows on ships with no crew ? Why sparkling lights ? Why sticking out rubbish (apoc) ? Why so many engines (prophecy) ?
Make specifications for each module a ship utilises. For example,
Caldari BS engine, 100x30x30 meters, weight xxxxx, pull xxxx has one exhaust, the pull must be applied to the center of mass.
Caldari sensor array 30x30x30 meters, weight xxxx, has 3 round external antennaes, 20x20 meters each, they must be placed at least 50 meters far from guns.
and so on.
And then make a project of the ship with all it's modules fitted inside of the hull, as it's done in RL. Then calculate ship bonuses judjing by the ship project strong sides.
big turret mounts, with more mechanisms and energy supply = weapon bonuses
big visible drone bay, tall antennas for drone interfacing = drone bonuses
solid hull without all sorts of rubbish sticking out of it = armor bonuses
huge sensors = ECM bonuses
large engines = speed bonuses
and so on.
Then the unique ship looks will be spacified by the limitations of racial ship modules (e.g some racial sensors must be apart from guns, some have huge antennas, and so on) and ship module's external parts specific looks.
This will take a bit of work, but the outcome will be much better than what we have now. Besides, this opens road to player created hulls. Just give ship module specs to ppl and collect feedback and designs.
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Beetle Boy
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.23 12:45:00 -
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CCP you need to do a overhaul in minnie ship we have a poor looking load of ship apart from vaga rupture and rifter they all like they are old rusty trash cans with duck tape used to keep them falling apart
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Jerick Ludhowe
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
Verisum Family
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Posted - 2006.07.23 14:31:00 -
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All of them :)
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Stacy Surplus
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Posted - 2006.09.11 16:59:00 -
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From a Minmatar point-of-view:
Completely redesign the Stabber (symmetrical, PLEASE!). The "needle-look" is cool, but the rear end looks disgusting. Replace the "connectors" between front and engine with a complete hull and either add symmetrical "sub-engines" or scrap them altogether. Move all turret hardpoints to the middle section, left and right. This would create a cool "broadside" effect. Remove some lights from the Vagabond (less is more) and create a cooler signaling pattern (from front to rear 1-2-3 and two symmetrical flashes on port and starboard). Think about using a flat engine exhaust, the current one 90 deg. to right or left.
Do not touch:
Rifter & variants
Mammoth & variants
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Serric
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Posted - 2006.09.11 17:11:00 -
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Didn't read the entire thread, stuck at work and don't have time. So, if this has been said already I apologize.
Could we please just use symmetry as a design concept? I'm new to the game, and the lopsided look is not appealing to me at all. I love the game, but hate the lopsided ships. I'm not saying make each side a mirror image, some asymmetry is fine... but some of the ships out there stretch the mind's acceptance of physical beauty.
Thank you.
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