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Bienator II
madmen of the skies
2831
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Posted - 2014.09.18 00:10:00 -
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i liked the heretic for its good alpha - so i usually used heretic for LML/kite and flycatcher for rocket/brawl (dual neut yey!). You will still be able to do that after the changes (obviously) but the changes make them very similar ships.
The different properties made them quite interesting but the proposed changes would make them almost exchangeable and therefore in my opinion overall more boring ships. eve style bounties (done) dust boarding parties imagine there is war and everybody cloaks - join FW |

FT Diomedes
The Graduates Forged of Fire
538
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Posted - 2014.09.18 00:11:00 -
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Henry Plantgenet wrote:What about fixing the issue with agression on the dictor's bubble? first it got agression, now there is no way to agress a dictor by its bubble. This is overpowered and i was expecting a change to that was fairly disappointed. Nice the eris gets a buff but still not getting at the crux of the problem with interdictors.
No, this is working as intended. It also means that being an interdictor pilot doesn't mean losing your ship almost every time you fly it.The more I see these interdictor changes, the happier I am. This is my signature. There are many like it, but this one is mine. |

Capqu
Love Squad Pasta Syndicate
641
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Posted - 2014.09.18 00:18:00 -
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Henry Plantgenet wrote:What about fixing the issue with agression on the dictor's bubble? first it got agression, now there is no way to agress a dictor by its bubble. This is overpowered and i was expecting a change to that was fairly disappointed. Nice the eris gets a buff but still not getting at the crux of the problem with interdictors.
warping in bubbles to aggress was unintuitive and obscure. however the issue of dictors on an npc null station really needs to be looked at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNpMiT5qpyI |

BadAssMcKill
ElitistOps
867
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Posted - 2014.09.18 00:19:00 -
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Gorski Car wrote:First they came for the Tracking Enhacers, and I did not speak outGÇö Because I didn't have tracking enhacers fitted
Then they came for the Tier 3 Battlecrusiers, and I did not speak outGÇö Because I was not a Tier 3 Pilot
Then they came for the Skirmish Boosts, and I did not speak outGÇö Because I was not a Linked Pilot
Then they came for my Light Missiles -and there was no one left to speak for me
. |

Promiscuous Female
GBS Logistics and Fives Support Goonswarm Federation
435
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Posted - 2014.09.18 00:22:00 -
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Capqu wrote:however the issue of dictors on an npc null station really needs to be looked at working as intended
stage in lowsec if you don't like bubbles |

Capqu
Love Squad Pasta Syndicate
641
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Posted - 2014.09.18 00:24:00 -
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Promiscuous Female wrote:Capqu wrote:however the issue of dictors on an npc null station really needs to be looked at working as intended stage in lowsec if you don't like bubbles
we do m7 im not talkin about it for myself, i try to have an objective view on things u know https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNpMiT5qpyI |

Absocold
Origin. Black Legion.
6
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Posted - 2014.09.18 00:28:00 -
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It's rather odd that T1 Destroyers can demolish Interdictors. Give the interdictors a healthy resist bonus. Then add a negative resist bonus to the bubble launcher so that when the hull is used as an interdictor it's the same EHP as it is now but if you take the bubble launcher off then the extra resists take effect and it becomes a real T2 destroyer.
Reverse most of the missile and missile launcher nerfs and replace the ECM mechanic with a Missile Disruption mechanic to go along with the current Turret Destabilization. |

Steven Hackett
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
80
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Posted - 2014.09.18 00:30:00 -
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Promiscuous Female wrote:Capqu wrote:however the issue of dictors on an npc null station really needs to be looked at working as intended stage in lowsec if you don't like bubbles So does sov.. hf |

El Space Mariachi
Love Squad Pasta Syndicate
125
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Posted - 2014.09.18 00:30:00 -
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ok now i actually bothered to read the op these are all good nice changes f-dog
especially hype for the flycatcher getting an extra launcher gay gamers for jesus |

Powers Sa
1371
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Posted - 2014.09.18 01:09:00 -
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I feel like you're trying to encourage close range combat over kiting with these changes. Is the idea to force more commitment and therefore greater consumption? Afterall, we don't see arty sabres
El Space Mariachi wrote:ok now i actually bothered to read the op these are all good nice changes f-dog
especially hype for the flycatcher getting an extra launcher all aboard the hype train lol |
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5yndr0m3
Origin. Black Legion.
23
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Posted - 2014.09.18 01:20:00 -
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Capqu wrote:
warping in bubbles to aggress was unintuitive and obscure. however the issue of dictors on an npc null station really needs to be looked at
this.
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Promiscuous Female
GBS Logistics and Fives Support Goonswarm Federation
435
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Posted - 2014.09.18 01:51:00 -
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just get some sov and you don't have to worry about interdictor aggression mechanics |

Marcel Devereux
Aideron Robotics
356
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Posted - 2014.09.18 01:59:00 -
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How about changing the Damage/RoF bonus to be a fall-off bonus and give it an 8th turret? |

Airi Cho
Dark-Rising Executive Outcomes
15
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Posted - 2014.09.18 02:08:00 -
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Gorski Car wrote:First they came for the Tracking Enhacers, and I did not speak outGÇö Because I didn't have tracking enhacers fitted
Then they came for the Tier 3 Battlecrusiers, and I did not speak outGÇö Because I was not a Tier 3 Pilot
Then they came for the Skirmish Boosts, and I did not speak outGÇö Because I was not a Linked Pilot
Then they came for my Light Missiles -and there was no one left to speak for me
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Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc Test Alliance Please Ignore
1850
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Posted - 2014.09.18 03:10:00 -
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Omega Crendraven wrote:First they came from my rapid lights And I did nothing Then they came from my LML's And there was no one left to protect me
Gorski Car wrote:First they came for the Tracking Enhacers, and I did not speak outGÇö Because I didn't have tracking enhacers fitted
Then they came for the Tier 3 Battlecrusiers, and I did not speak outGÇö Because I was not a Tier 3 Pilot
Then they came for the Skirmish Boosts, and I did not speak outGÇö Because I was not a Linked Pilot
Then they came for my Light Missiles -and there was no one left to speak for me
The real problem is that when CCP talks about boosting something nobody uses, everyone's response is "why buff something we won't use?" and then when they talk about nerfing something everybody uses, the response is "OMG CCP you're ruining the game for everyone!" The problem isn't any lack of CCP's ability to balance the game, but a resistance to having a balanced game. Fit a warfare link to your tech 1 battlecruiser. Train Wing Commander. Get in the Squad Commander or Wing Commander position. Your fleets will be superior to everyone else's. (had this sig BEFORE Odyssey BC rebalance) "What if [climate change is] a big hoax and we create a better world for nothing?" -comic on Greenmonk |

Naoru Kozan
Calamitous-Intent Feign Disorder
73
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Posted - 2014.09.18 03:35:00 -
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Gorski Car wrote:First they came for the Tracking Enhacers, and I did not speak outGÇö Because I didn't have tracking enhacers fitted
Then they came for the Tier 3 Battlecrusiers, and I did not speak outGÇö Because I was not a Tier 3 Pilot
Then they came for the Skirmish Boosts, and I did not speak outGÇö Because I was not a Linked Pilot
Then they came for my Light Missiles -and there was no one left to speak for me
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Catherine Laartii
Providence Guard Templis CALSF
284
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Posted - 2014.09.18 04:54:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:Hey everyone! As CCP Seagull mentioned in her coming in Oceanus dev blog, we're following up with Interceptors and Interdictors this release to apply some more polish. These Interdictor changes are fairly minor as we consider the balance of this class fairly healthy. They are mainly aimed at helping the Eris, Heretic and Flycatcher compete more strongly against the Sabre for applications where combat ability matters. One important module tweak that applies significantly to these ships (we'll be discussing it in more detail in an upcoming module balance blog) is that in Oceanus Light Missile Launchers will have their Rate of Fire decreased by ~6%. Eris:Replace the +5% Small Hybrid damage bonus with +5% Small Hybrid RoF -50000 Mass Heretic:Replace the +5% Missile damage bonus with +5% Rocket and Light Missile launcher RoF -5000 Mass -0.1 Inertia Flycatcher:+1 Launcher +10 CPU +3 PWG
I have mixed feelings about this. On the one hand, they're getting better dps which falls in line with being able to hit things *hard* on field before going down, but the slot layout still does need to be addressed. it would be a fairly simple matter to just drop a high on the flycatcher and give it the extra low. Need to fit cloak and bubble? Just drop a launcher and you'll be fine, np.
I am looking forward to fitting lights on a kite heretic for FW plexing. it looks scary as hell with the extra dps and slight mobility bump. |

Torei Dutalis
IceBox Inc. Lasers Are Magic
14
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Posted - 2014.09.18 04:54:00 -
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Changes to interdictors, sure, great, nothing really amazing to look at. More random nerfs, not cool Fozzie, not cool. Hopefully the Gorski Car quote fest will reach a critical mass. |

Altrue
Exploration Frontier inc Brave Collective
1289
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Posted - 2014.09.18 06:11:00 -
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Sounds good to me. Signature Tanking - Best Tanking
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Mizhir
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
68784
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Posted - 2014.09.18 07:59:00 -
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I like the changes. +1 One Man Crew - Collective solo pvp |
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Rek Seven
Probe Patrol Ixtab.
1869
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Posted - 2014.09.18 08:13:00 -
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There needs to be a new warp disruption bubble for the Interdictors that is capable of stopping interdiction immune ships. +1 |

Faren Shalni
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
57
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Posted - 2014.09.18 08:42:00 -
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Rek Seven wrote:There needs to be a new warp disruption bubble for the Interdictors that is capable of stopping interdiction immune ships.
Point on the doll where the interceptor touched you So Much Space |

Madbuster73
V0LTA Triumvirate.
115
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Posted - 2014.09.18 08:53:00 -
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Reaver Glitterstim wrote:Omega Crendraven wrote:First they came from my rapid lights And I did nothing Then they came from my LML's And there was no one left to protect me Gorski Car wrote:First they came for the Tracking Enhacers, and I did not speak outGÇö Because I didn't have tracking enhacers fitted
Then they came for the Tier 3 Battlecrusiers, and I did not speak outGÇö Because I was not a Tier 3 Pilot
Then they came for the Skirmish Boosts, and I did not speak outGÇö Because I was not a Linked Pilot
Then they came for my Light Missiles -and there was no one left to speak for me The real problem is that when CCP talks about boosting something nobody uses, everyone's response is "why buff something we won't use?" and then when they talk about nerfing something everybody uses, the response is "OMG CCP you're ruining the game for everyone!" The problem isn't any lack of CCP's ability to balance the game, but a resistance to having a balanced game.
They are buffing and nerfing the wrong thing. Its Ishtars and Stealthbombers that need nerfed. Everybody knows Ishtars are way too OP. Everybody knows Stealthbombers are OP, hence why nobody in 0.0 wants to fight in Battleships anymore.
Ishtars DPS needs be cut in half. Stealtbombers need to be nerfed by giving bomb launch delay after decloaking (5 seconds delay) |

Arthur Aihaken
X A X
3808
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Posted - 2014.09.18 08:56:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:One important module tweak that applies significantly to these ships (we'll be discussing it in more detail in an upcoming module balance blog) is that in Oceanus Light Missile Launchers will have their Rate of Fire decreased by ~6%. Welcome to the new EVE: A Game of Drones. You continually buff drones, essentially leave the Ishtar overpowered and intact and resume the march to nerf missiles in one form or another. I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week. |

Danny John-Peter
Snuff Box
512
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Posted - 2014.09.18 09:17:00 -
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Well I guess its time to buy Flycatchers.
Or you know, probably just buy a Worm or 5 instead. |

Kagura Nikon
Mentally Assured Destruction The Pursuit of Happiness
1632
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Posted - 2014.09.18 09:49:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:Hey everyone! As CCP Seagull mentioned in her coming in Oceanus dev blog, we're following up with Interceptors and Interdictors this release to apply some more polish. These Interdictor changes are fairly minor as we consider the balance of this class fairly healthy. They are mainly aimed at helping the Eris, Heretic and Flycatcher compete more strongly against the Sabre for applications where combat ability matters. One important module tweak that applies significantly to these ships (we'll be discussing it in more detail in an upcoming module balance blog) is that in Oceanus Light Missile Launchers will have their Rate of Fire decreased by ~6%. Eris:Replace the +5% Small Hybrid damage bonus with +5% Small Hybrid RoF -50000 Mass Heretic:Replace the +5% Missile damage bonus with +5% Rocket and Light Missile launcher RoF -5000 Mass -0.1 Inertia Flycatcher:+1 Launcher +10 CPU +3 PWG
is is really -50 K mass for one and -5 K for the other? "If brute force does not solve your problem..... -áthen you are -ásurely not using enough!" |

Ammzi
Love Squad Pasta Syndicate
1831
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Posted - 2014.09.18 09:57:00 -
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Reaver Glitterstim wrote:
The real problem is that when CCP talks about boosting something nobody uses, everyone's response is "why buff something we won't use?" and then when they talk about nerfing something everybody uses, the response is "OMG CCP you're ruining the game for everyone!" The problem isn't any lack of CCP's ability to balance the game, but a resistance to having a balanced game.
Implying anyone would cry if sentries#2014Eve got nerfed. |

per
Terpene Conglomerate
19
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Posted - 2014.09.18 10:01:00 -
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flycatcher the new king of the hill |

Santiago Diamond
EVE University Ivy League
0
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Posted - 2014.09.18 10:04:00 -
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Gorski Car wrote:First they came for the Tracking Enhacers, and I did not speak outGÇö Because I didn't have tracking enhacers fitted
Then they came for the Tier 3 Battlecrusiers, and I did not speak outGÇö Because I was not a Tier 3 Pilot
Then they came for the Skirmish Boosts, and I did not speak outGÇö Because I was not a Linked Pilot
Then they came for my Light Missiles -and there was no one left to speak for me
It seems like CCP is on an ever increasing race to the middle, where everything is average and cozy and stupid. We don't need another "America", but in internet space, full of average intelligence and Chinese imports. Because that's where this is totally going.
rabble:rabble:rabble
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ivona fly
Aideron Robotics
0
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Posted - 2014.09.18 10:22:00 -
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Gorski Car wrote:First they came for the Tracking Enhacers, and I did not speak outGÇö Because I didn't have tracking enhacers fitted
Then they came for the Tier 3 Battlecrusiers, and I did not speak outGÇö Because I was not a Tier 3 Pilot
Then they came for the Skirmish Boosts, and I did not speak outGÇö Because I was not a Linked Pilot
Then they came for my Lights -and there was no one left to speak for me
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