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Kusotarre Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.07 05:06:00 - [61] I can only make observations based on what I've seen here, since I've never warred with RA or the Coalition guys. What I have seen on these forums, though, is things such as Coalition claiming RA log on trapped their (ERA) dread fleet, only to learn later with video proof they cynoed in. Huge amounts of propaganda saying RA's numbers on the battle in C-J were wrong, only to find after looking at all involved killboards that they were correct. Unprovable accusations by (not just) Coalition members about RA copying BMs, or RA having a huge advantage due to lag (if you can't warp, chances are they can't fire), or RA ebaying things (which smacks of outright racism/ethnicism). RA certainly have their smackish moments, but nothing compared to what Coalition and their friends have been saying about RA. I'm glad this is coming to an end, at least for the time being, so I don't have an outlet to fulfill my perverted desire to watch people hate each other over a ******* game.
Murukan Minmatar The Priory	Posted - 2006.08.07 06:01:00 - [62] lol at LD crying that the uber blob didn't work. In rust we trust!!!
Sakura Nihil Tharsis Security	Posted - 2006.08.07 06:20:00 - [63] Edited by: Sakura Nihil on 07/08/2006 06:20:23 Only one ytmnd can summarize my thoughts on this whole situation: Internet Explorer only OMG, WCS Nerf!
ph33rf4ct0ry Minmatar Hookers From Mars	Posted - 2006.08.07 06:24:00 - [64] @ RA's ability to fend off tons of ****ty alliances. I honestly didn't think you could do it (doubt I was alone). That red patch on the south west of the map is a black eye to evey pilot in the coalition. Member of the POST WITH YOUR MAIN SOCIETY
LWMaverick	Posted - 2006.08.07 06:34:00 - [65] Originally by: Puncher This is bordering on hilarious, the coalition of 10000+ sent off with it's collective tail between it's legs... Grats RA! Read again, smacktard. /Mav <3
Mj Pronin Caldari R.u.S.H. Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.07 06:35:00 - [66] Originally by: Altai Saker I look forward to the day when Red Alliance no longer exist on tranquility. Good luck -LV- If this ever gonna to happen,this will be the day when you be asking your grand grand children to give you back remote control of TV set to watch your favourite soap opera laying motionless in your bed
Fred0 Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.07 06:35:00 - [67] Not getting involved in the whole RA vs. Coalition thing. But it sucks immensely to loose cap ships while being totally unable to control them. They are an effort to put together and loosing them as that is a gamebreaker. :(
Skrypt Gallente Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.08.07 06:42:00 - [68] If 10k players are so fed up with RA that they are willing to amass a huge blob, essentially for grins, to evict RA of their last remaining station, than that's fair. RA should never have made so many enemies. This is the design of the game. This is the very reason I play EVE and not some other mmo. The epic nature of this game allures me. And... RA will fall COMPLETELY (because it certainly can't be said that they are standing strong) - even if I do it all by my lonesome. ___________
Raxxar Friends Corp	Posted - 2006.08.07 06:43:00 - [69] Guys just check the name of the game you're playing: RED MOON ... It explains everything:) Devs should rename it to make RA vulnerable
Mj Pronin Caldari R.u.S.H. Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.07 06:47:00 - [70] Side note. Since when the deploying of POSes to get the upper hand in system considered lame tactics? I'd way it is wise tactics to save fleet and use towers instead. Yes it is boring but it is legal and not leading to ship losses. So it is wise to do this. Anyone who cannot understand this is poor tactitian .

Bobr Caldari Russian SOBR Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.07 06:58:00 - [71] The station Rorke's Drift has been captured by Russian SOBR corporation! Sorry, guys... P7- captured...
Sirius Lonestar Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2006.08.07 07:05:00 - [72] Well, congrats RA on defending your system. That's has got to be really disappoint for both sides, but especially Coalition for not being able to get a fair fight in because of the lag. If it weren't for both D2 and Goonswarm reporting the same thing last week, I might think it was a copout. This apparently is not. CCP better do something about this because the whole point of the game is to build up for epic fleet battles. I am sure that there is nothing worse that to have to thrill of battle crushed by lag. I haven't experienced it to that scale myself, but I can image I would be really upset if it happened to me. It kind of make me think what's the point to build yourself up just to end up being crushed by lag every time you want to participate in an epic battle. It is hard to lose but I can accept it if I was outplayed. It is alot harder to accept if you lose because of lag. Actually, imo it sucks to win because of lag as well because it wasn't a good win. CCP really needs to address this if they want to keep growing as people can only take so much of a broken game.
Gralgathor Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.08.07 07:27:00 - [73] Good fight RA, you hung in there and defended your territory with tooth and nail. Lag was really bad, even on my new PC with the game set to minimal graphics. Though in all fairness, my last loss to RA in C-J last night was not due to lag but due to 15 RA tech2-equipped battleships and a few carriers calling my Scorpion primary after we warped in on the station. Boy, did we get an asswhooping there. Enjoy your system while you have it, RA. We'll be back, with a vengeance.
Rose Kolodny Gallente Space Invaders	Posted - 2006.08.07 07:43:00 - [74] Dunno what to think about this, as far as I am informed RA consists also of some former RUS players and attacking them was never smart. Never been a fan of gank fleets, the lag was always terrible. Knowing that, I would avoid any engagements of this type, but is there an other way to fight? -- Recruiting Video
Dinique Caldari Black Lance Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.08.07 07:53:00 - [75] Originally by: The Enslaver Originally by: Archonon After the log off, after the pos spamming, after the ebil ebayer, after the loging trap , after the complex runner, after the alt's char veldspar miners in jita, after the alt's char in RAT. killers of carebears, now we've got the ebil laggers. Humm perhaps if u weren't 10 alliances(sry it's certainly more but i stopped here) against RA u would have less lag in the system. Please stop crying on forums about ur unabilities to fight RA, and make useless post. Make ur petition as everyone and simply At what point did using 300 people become an invalid tactic? We all know that the EVE servers can support it when setup to; Jita, Rens and EC-P8R (which wasn't that bad) as examples. I guess it also makes a huge difference what the people in system are doing. All 500 in Jita aren't fighting at the same time in the same grid. And when it was XZH lag over the forums many of you were quite happy to just go 'lol d2'. Dusk till Dawn Twilight to Starlight
Dinique Caldari Black Lance Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.08.07 07:54:00 - [76] Originally by: ArcheryTXS Originally by: The Enslaver At what point did using 300 people become an invalid tactic? We all know that the EVE servers can support it when setup to; Jita, Rens and EC-P8R (which wasn't that bad) as examples. next time send mail to GM so they can put more resource to the system u r trying to engage . its been stated by Oveur that this is not possible to do currently. Dusk till Dawn Twilight to Starlight
Haruko Red Caldari Xenobytes Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2006.08.07 07:55:00 - [77] Quote: Fact is... - The Game Mechanics isnt able to support a havy management for more alliances and a force with 40+ CS¦s + support. Fact is... - Everyone have same lags in large scale battles, nonetheless, POSes goes down every day. Take a look at Goons vs D2 or BoB - they were huge in numbers, the lag was immense, but, in the end the war was won by one of the sides. You can take a look at any other example of successful war if you wish. May be there is something wrong with you? Quote: We believe our assault was well planned and had all the correct logistics in place... Bla-bla-bla translation: "We bring a huge fleet and died out in a lags we created". So, you think, what large numbers is enough to win the battle? I'm relative new in a game, but after three months in SE (and now in .-A-.) I have learned, what it's not the number of ships to decide an outcome of the fight. It might be a discovery for Coalition, but ASCN should have learned this a long time ago. I wonder, why do they repeat same mistakes again? Oh and, dont want to smacktalk or something, but blaming others in your failure is a first sign of the looser.
Papa Digger REUNI0N Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.07 07:57:00 - [78] Originally by: Bobr The station Rorke's Drift has been captured by Russian SOBR corporation! Sorry, guys... P7- captured... GJ RUSSO!! ---- CEO.
ArcheryTXS Russian SOBR Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.07 08:01:00 - [79] Edited by: ArcheryTXS on 07/08/2006 08:01:24 Originally by: c0rn1 Originally by: ArcheryTXS Originally by: The Enslaver At what point did using 300 people become an invalid tactic? We all know that the EVE servers can support it when setup to; Jita, Rens and EC-P8R (which wasn't that bad) as examples. next time send mail to GM so they can put more resource to the system u r trying to engage . I did that, ArcheryTXS 24h before the assault and far before downtime. Response: "Hi. Unfortunately, we do not have the means to manually assign server nodes to specific systems. Our apologies for any inconvenience this may cause you. Best regards, GM Arkanon Senior Game Master EVE Online Customer Support" But damn , Jita is lag free like i know (never been there , he-he :) ) so why it`s impossible to do same to other system , even when u know it`s gonna be 400+ in local ??? Why ??? :) / City Sadness...
Dinique Caldari Black Lance Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.08.07 08:03:00 - [80] Originally by: Light Darkness Thats wasnt a honor fight on both sides. Fact is... - CCP isnt able to support 350 of thier paying members (extra server)for only a few days. Why not? One or two extra servers (and I am assuming they have waaaay more than just 10 sitting there) isn't much at all, and can be assigned around as needed for 0.0 alliance warfare -- its not like huge battles like these happen daily everywhere. That's what, supporting 30000-40000 of their subs for a relatively small price? I feel its something they will HAVE to do. Wea re paying for this game, you know, and we can't play it can we? Dusk till Dawn Twilight to Starlight

voxie	Posted - 2006.08.07 08:22:00 - [81] Originally by: Sirius Lonestar Edited by: Sirius Lonestar on 07/08/2006 07:09:14 Edited for spelling Well, congrats RA on defending your system. That's has got to be really disappointment for both sides, but especially Coalition for not being able to get a fair fight in because of the lag. If it weren't for both D2 and Goonswarm reporting the same thing last week, I might think it was a cop out. This apparently is not. CCP better do something about this because the whole point of the game is to build up for epic fleet battles. I am sure that there is nothing worse that to have to thrill of battle crushed by lag. I haven't experienced it to that scale myself, but I can image I would be really upset if it happened to me. It kind of make me think what's the point to build yourself up just to end up being crushed by lag every time you want to participate in an epic battle. It is hard to lose but I can accept it if I was outplayed. It is alot harder to accept if you lose because of lag. Actually, imo it sucks to win because of lag as well because it robs you of a good win. CCP really needs to address this if they want to keep growing as people can only take so much of a broken game. So... on the one hand you say it's not a cop out, but at the same time you're saying it was to be expected to be unplayable and yet they try it? Come on, it's a known (big) issue, but please let's not make the 'omgwtfbbq we want to have epic fleetbattles and we deserve to do so' a top priority as the majority of players in eve has other things they'd like fixed too.
Mariko San	Posted - 2006.08.07 08:53:00 - [82] Originally by: Heinky I know how to fix your problem. Fight them 1 alliance at a time , maybe the lag will reduce, tho your ship looses will just be worse. Mate a fleet battle to you guys consists of 2 stabbed ravens ganking an NPC fitted BS stuck in a dictor bubble so stick to what you know. With many thanks.
Lucre STK Scientific Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.08.07 08:58:00 - [83] Originally by: StoreSlem "If you were experiencing a lag, it was not server related." Our lag shows no evidence of logs...
fuze Gallente Chosen Path Center for Disease Creation	Posted - 2006.08.07 09:01:00 - [84] Originally by: Haruko Red Take a look at Goons vs D2 or BoB - they were huge in numbers, the lag was immense, but, in the end the war was won by one of the sides. Good point.
Malachon Draco eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.08.07 09:09:00 - [85] Originally by: fuze Originally by: Haruko Red Take a look at Goons vs D2 or BoB - they were huge in numbers, the lag was immense, but, in the end the war was won by one of the sides. Good point. Well, would you really compare RED to Goons in terms of tactics, combat prowess and experience (particularly with POS setups and fights)? Quite frankly, if I were RED I'd be insulted.
Kaleeb Celestial Apocalypse	Posted - 2006.08.07 09:12:00 - [86] Edited by: Kaleeb on 07/08/2006 09:12:53 Well it looks like RA outlasted their opponents again, reminds me of this the 5 Goodluck both sides I hope you get some lagless fights in the future In Rust We Trust Team Minmatar Free Sarmaul
Beyond Horizon Solar Dragons Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.07 09:13:00 - [87] Originally by: munchy omg u guys are brilliant, ur AWSOME way of hiding a blatant loss has fooled us all, you're not backing down to RA at all, its all CCP's fault.....yeah /signed You found a really good excuse - gratz and farewell :D - BH
Azuriel Talloth M. Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.08.07 09:22:00 - [88] There's always going to be a certain minimum number of people needed, if you want to take out a death star POS while defending from an enemy. If the server cannot handle that number, what option is left? CCP Please rename "Warp Disrupt Probes" to "Interdiction Spheres", thanks!
Rexthor Hammerfists Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.08.07 09:30:00 - [89] this indeed reminds me of the the5 vs ra, in both occasions it was simply not possible to overcome the poses, cause of the lack of the gamemechanics. pretty lame if u ask me, tho this time its not ra`s fault - so im not blaming them! its ccp`s fault, and its a reason why the political maps arent changing in eve, its simply not worth attacking deathstars with hundred of ppl as the attacker usually dies horribly. delete all bms, and give us a warp to 0km option i say ccp ;). btw, did u manage to drive ra out of the 10/10 alrdy? just curious.. - Purple Conquered The World, We the Universe.
fuze Gallente Chosen Path Center for Disease Creation	Posted - 2006.08.07 09:45:00 - [90] Originally by: Malachon Draco Well, would you really compare RED to Goons in terms of tactics, combat prowess and experience (particularly with POS setups and fights)? Quite frankly, if I were RED I'd be insulted. I will not be part of your political agenda. Big fights happen, lag happens and if others can win even then, they are doing something right. Its merely an observation. We ain't got balls, but plenty of nuts.



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