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Tieger Gallente FinFleet Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.08.07 14:27:00 - [121] Originally by: Pastora How the game mechanics are wrong? The fact is that the servers can't handle such large scale warfare. This is not the flaw of the game mechanics. This is the flaw of modern hardware and the balance of performance and its costs. Can you suggest any other solution to current problem? The solution which will satisfy both attacker and defender. If you will, I think you might get a job at CCP...[/quote The game mechanics are wrong because they force the attacking side to gather up such a big fleet in order to take down those POS while the hardware cant handle it. The coalition has the resources, pilots, time and willingness to take down C-J but it can`t be done whit current game mechanics. Simple as that.
Light Darkness Seraphin Technologies Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.08.07 14:36:00 - [122] We can discuss what and how much we want. IF CCP dont have a eye on the "HOT SPOTS" we never find a "nice and clear" fight. We will have lags here and there and "no fun". I remember the "old times" SA vs CA. Everyday big fleet fights 100+ against 100+ in U-QVWD or HLW.... dream So stop dreaming and start to engage a roid -> no lag ! BTW 1 question: Why we have Dreads and CS in the game mechanic? WIf you use a 40+ CS fleet against a 30 BS sniping Gang. The CS will lost the fight. Regards /LD --------------------- -V-eritas Immortalis Killboard
Pepperami Art of War	Posted - 2006.08.07 15:03:00 - [123] I think that this will work out a good move for the coalition - work on kicking RA out the complexes completely, search and kill them, and all the time let them spend is and time to fuel the 20-odd large pos in a system that has no real money making ability. Will be interesting to see how the RA funds carry on when their income is cut. GL guys.
jeriwo Amarr Russian SOBR Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.07 15:05:00 - [124] Originally by: Skrypt And... RA will fall COMPLETELY (because it certainly can't be said that they are standing strong) - even if I do it all by my lonesome. You and all your 3000+ friends do not understand only one thing - RA NEVER surrender. That fact.Remember that and say about it to all your friends...And be prepared when we come for you - it will be sooner than you imagine in your nightmires
ElCoCo Gallente KIA Corp	Posted - 2006.08.07 15:23:00 - [125] Originally by: StiZum Hilidii hey RA next time your defending ill need the following sets while your doing them querious delve and venal. just put them in a can marked for me Lol...haha...ugh.... tummy hurts from laughing
Dillon Arklight Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.08.07 15:30:00 - [126] Edited by: Dillon Arklight on 07/08/2006 15:32:43 Wow Jeriwo, Im really really scared. The 4 killpoints you have on the RA killboard (1 ity 4 and 1 pod) make me especially fearful of you.
Shamis Orzoz SniggWaffe	Posted - 2006.08.07 15:42:00 - [127] The blobbers have been killed by their own byproduct: LAG.
The Enslaver Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.08.07 16:05:00 - [128] Originally by: jeriwo Originally by: Skrypt And... RA will fall COMPLETELY (because it certainly can't be said that they are standing strong) - even if I do it all by my lonesome. You and all your 3000+ friends do not understand only one thing - RA NEVER surrender. That fact.Remember that and say about it to all your friends...And be prepared when we come for you - it will be sooner than you imagine in your nightmires We aren't scared of you in the slightest, we are merely annoyed that your borderline exploits in combination with flawed game mechanics have given you enough of an edge to hold onto a system that you blatantly shouldn't have been able to. --------
Pastora Russian SOBR Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.07 16:22:00 - [129] Originally by: The Enslaver Originally by: jeriwo Originally by: Skrypt And... RA will fall COMPLETELY (because it certainly can't be said that they are standing strong) - even if I do it all by my lonesome. You and all your 3000+ friends do not understand only one thing - RA NEVER surrender. That fact.Remember that and say about it to all your friends...And be prepared when we come for you - it will be sooner than you imagine in your nightmires We aren't scared of you in the slightest, we are merely annoyed that while we are using borderline exploits in combination with flawed game mechanics, you still have a hold onto a system that you blatantly shouldn't have been able to. Fixed if for you _______________________________________________ If ifs and ands were pots and pans, I would grow mushrooms in my pants.
Zigadenus M. Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.08.07 17:42:00 - [130] Originally by: darth solo You folks shooting POS's all day make me chuckle.. isnt it like the most boring thing to do ever?. d solo. No way, dude. POS assault represents one of the most challenging tactical operations Eve has to offer - esp against an alliance that is desperate to defend (like RA). There is enough firepower in the game now to reinforce a L tower fairly quick (compared to a year ago), and when a defending force is thrown into the mix, things get very interesting. The buzzkill is the massive lag, obviously. Both sides suffer from it, but in this campaign it disproportionately impacts the attacker (coalition), who always has WAY more isk on the line in capital ships exposed during the assault. Despite a valiant and impressive defense, the lag is the only thing that saved RA's bacon, and everyone involved knows this. Therefore the coalition is finished throwing away time and money at things that are consistently ruined by lag. GG CCP Would be nice if the game could support its content, but we're right back to where we were a year ago in H-PA. Originally by: Mj Pronin Side note. Since when the deploying of POSes to get the upper hand in system considered lame tactics? I'd way it is wise tactics to save fleet and use towers instead. Yes it is boring but it is legal and not leading to ship losses. So it is wise to do this. Anyone who cannot understand this is poor tactitian . You're absolutely right. Throwing down POS in the night when no one is around is perfectly legal and an effective tactic. But it turns lame when combined with the fact that RA will rarely do any sort of fighting alongside this even when the numbers are the same, and even then they will typically only fight if they have a massively superior tactical advantage. This makes the game totally boring, which is why hundreds of players are smacking RA on the forums and throwing away days upon days of their gametime doing stuff that isn't fun at all just to push RA to emmpire. This is the bed RA made with boring tactics, which is too bad since I know RA is capable of wtfpwnage in an even fight. I guess it just depends on who is fleet commander that day. If RA were a fun enemy to fight, the coalition would probably be very happy to keep them around. But unfortunately for everyone involved.... Put it this way - I would rather lose every battle to a fun opponent than win every lousy engagement against RA. It just ruins the game. Yes, sometimes coalition also can have the same problem, and yes, I'm whining lol. Originally by: MACTEP 2."last time RA actively went against your POS's - during last 2 weeks... 2 errors in one replay )) check your info before post anything Let's elaborate. The last two weeks involved RA assaulting mainly (if not only) unarmed and offline towers while hardly anyone is around. But to be fair, I suppose that's expected given the numbers RA is up against. <3 Mactep. Good job to RA for hanging in there. The lag won the battle in C-J, but there would be no battle if RA had just given up - which is exactly what almost every other alliance in the game would have done by now. Reds, don't be proud for beating the coalition - because you have not and almost certainly will not. Be proud because you don't give up, no matter what. Big props to RA for fortitude in the face of adversity. Sorry, brevity is not one of my strong points. ________________________________________________ Kyle > Why do you have to ask me all these complicated questions? Zerodragon > Dude, IÆm trying to save your setup from complete suckage.

Orree Gallente Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.08.07 17:46:00 - [131] Originally by: Stamm It's a TRAAAP! Nice banner. Congratulations to RA, looks like the heat is off. Please do something with POSs and lag CCP, seems the coalition faced exactly the same problems that D2 and Goonswarm faced. Having been engaged in my first POS war or the past week, I can say that it's about the most boring thing I've done (apart from mine ice) since I started playing this game. The sovereignity mechanics are what they are and I don't really blame people for playing the game as it has been presented, but I am seriously hoping there's a better way somewhere on the horizon. Rolling in an spamming towers is just a tad too easy and it's takes far longer to get rid of them than it does to put them down, even if there is little or no defence. All it takes is ISK (of which there is plenty in EVE) and a little bit of logistics. It's all just a little too set-piece (and mind-numbingly boring). Sitting in gangs for hour on end, days on end to take out POS after POS. Bleh. Sometimes I think people can put way too much strontium in them, too...lol. Spamming POS and stuffing them full of strontium and fuel is just too easy. As we've seen, people can do it on a huge scale without really having to defend them. After a while, the time-investment trying to take them out becomes prohibitive.
Rexthor Hammerfists Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.08.07 18:35:00 - [132] i liked the pos thingies, cause they forced the enemie to fight, or loose. but as it is now, pos war sucks. - Purple Conquered The World, We the Universe.
dalman Rampage Eternal	Posted - 2006.08.07 18:40:00 - [133] Originally by: Rexthor Hammerfists i liked the pos thingies, cause they forced the enemie to fight, or loose. but as it is now, pos war sucks. Yay! I win! errr, perhaps there's still some 1000 bobbits to convince. /me continues to bugger Oveur about if it's really a good idea to extend the structure/sov thingies when it's so obvious that neither the server, the client nor the game mechanics can support the gameplay that today's features require. Am I forced to have any regret? I've become the lie, beautiful and free In my righteous own mind I adore and preach the insanity you gave to me
LUKEC Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.08.07 18:41:00 - [134] Edited by: LUKEC on 07/08/2006 18:42:28 Originally by: Rexthor Hammerfists i liked the pos thingies, cause they forced the enemie to fight, or loose. but as it is now, pos war sucks. Concept is okish... i'd rather have concord declaration of station/outpost takeover and then sending fleet in to take station for a nice sum (500mil to declare) and then what happens, happens. POS stuff sucks due to timezones(and this is a game, remember) and lag. --------------------- WTS talisman omega
superscarface 0utbreak	Posted - 2006.08.07 18:46:00 - [135] I don't suppose a diplomatic solution can be reached? You guys must be bored as hell fighting each other for so long...
Minevra Solar Dragons Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.07 18:53:00 - [136] Originally by: Zigadenus Originally by: darth solo Let's elaborate. The last two weeks involved RA assaulting mainly (if not only) unarmed and offline towers while hardly anyone is around. But to be fair, I suppose that's expected given the numbers RA is up against. <3 Mactep. Sorry we didn't say: "Hey guys we're going to shoot your poses. Pls online and arm them. And come at XX pm so you can defend them"
lazyb22 M. Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.08.07 18:55:00 - [137] Originally by: Shayleigh Snowflower To all you chest-beaters out there, have fun. To all of the people out there going on about how one of the teams in this battle beat the other up. Please. Go read a book The situation is now, just the same as it was a week ago. Neither RA nor ASCN or LV have taken any significant loss. Sure, I lost a carrier. So what? My first rupture loss set me back more than that carrier. It was damn annoying, sure, but I would have been just as annoyed loosing a raven. There where 2 forces here, colliding at the moons throwing hundreds of billions of isk worth of equipment at eachother. Red Alliance where well dug in. They had Safespots, sniper points and POSs. They where logisticaly outnumbered real bad, and where, the famous lion in the corner. We in the coalition, had a few major run-ins with them, and Red Alliance made some real ballbusting raids on us. But, they suffered the same LAG and faulty game mechanics as we did. The POS that we where fighting at the first night conjured a huge number of small egg-like objects, spawning lots of small boxes of lag (CargoCans) On a lag-free server, or atleast close to lag free, we would have had some INCREADIBLEY fun battles, I am sure of it. I am sure I would not have been able to sleep due to the adrenaline rush of a deadly cat and mouse game where some high skilled people put theyÆre capital fleet on top of our fleet in a desperate battle for the piece of space they control and for the glory of theyÆre spacestation. There where no winners. There where no loosers. There where just status quo and lag for most of the time. Lag was and is, however, a two way thing. RA was just as lagged as us for most of the time. However, when you warp to an area, where you will get shot at by a POS that do NOT suffer from lag, and you canÆt defend yourself, because your modules are not working, then you have a huge dissadvatage. One, that CCP should see about fixing. Anyway, I have to say, from an objective view, on what is the best thing for the game, that it is kinda cool to, that an enemy outnumberd, but with the heart and soul set to defend what is theyÆres (what they have stolen fair and squarelol ), can stand up against overwelming odds. It makes the game richer. I mean, who out there make a better enemy for me than RA? RUS, RUSH.. and all the other people that threw me out of eastern Curse in nov/des 2003 make so excellent people to æhateÆ, but they make the game richer to. ... but ofcuz, they all have to die QFT!!!
lazyb22 M. Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.08.07 19:02:00 - [138] Originally by: MACTEP Originally by: The Enslaver Originally by: Jolithan when I was defending C-J with RA (and CWRA) last time i remeber the same tactics being used against us. There was a massive POS deployment. As mentioned before this is not very exciting neither is is how i'd like to play the game. Err, no... I don't remember you guys ever attacking the C-J6 towers we had down. In fact, the last time RA actively went against our POS's, they lost 11 dreads in under 10 minutes. 1.again and again....9 m8 9....at that time RA lost 9 not 11... 2."last time RA actively went against your POS's - during last 2 weeks... 2 errors in one replay )) check your info before post anything I remember that Mactep I had a force big enough to take out your support and the dreads. But what happened an unexpected DT. Another day saved by CCP. All in all the war has been fun but its turned dirty. GL and have fun Lazyb22 Director MCorp
Murukan Minmatar The Priory	Posted - 2006.08.07 19:05:00 - [139] Originally by: The Enslaver Originally by: jeriwo Originally by: Skrypt And... RA will fall COMPLETELY (because it certainly can't be said that they are standing strong) - even if I do it all by my lonesome. You and all your 3000+ friends do not understand only one thing - RA NEVER surrender. That fact.Remember that and say about it to all your friends...And be prepared when we come for you - it will be sooner than you imagine in your nightmires We aren't scared of you in the slightest, we are merely annoyed that your borderline exploits in combination with flawed game mechanics have given you enough of an edge to hold onto a system that you blatantly shouldn't have been able to. Aww if the game is so flawed why don't you stop playing? In rust we trust!!!
Yazoul Samaiel Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.08.07 20:49:00 - [140] Originally by: Altai Saker I look forward to the day when Red Alliance no longer exist on tranquility. Good luck -LV- And all their Fanboi supporters also who think that their lame gameplay is worth cheering for ! "What ever that doesn't Kill me just makes me stronger"

Pastora Russian SOBR Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.07 21:42:00 - [141] Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel And all their Fanboi supporters also who think that their lame gameplay is worth cheering for ! You really need to grow up. _______________________________________________ If ifs and ands were pots and pans, I would grow mushrooms in my pants.
Chowdown Gallente Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.08.07 22:28:00 - [142] Originally by: Pastora Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel And all their Fanboi supporters also who think that their lame gameplay is worth cheering for ! You really need to grow up. LOL, please stop Beyond Horizon posting before asking others to grow up.
Murukan Minmatar The Priory	Posted - 2006.08.08 01:34:00 - [143] Originally by: Chowdown Originally by: Pastora Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel And all their Fanboi supporters also who think that their lame gameplay is worth cheering for ! You really need to grow up. LOL, please stop Beyond Horizon posting before asking others to grow up. Shinra isn't exactly the pinnacle of mature posting either. In rust we trust!!!
Minthos 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.08.08 02:35:00 - [144] While I'm not particularily fond of either side in this flame war, I would just like to voice my support for the countless victims of lag in eve. I myself have suffered unspeakable lag, and it was truly horrible to behold. CCP should hurry up and do something about it. The current situation where the game gets unplayable whenever 100+ ships all try to lock and fire in the same system at the same time is devastating to qualities like fun, immersion, tactics and predictability. Lag is a growing threat and we must stand united against it, or we can all retire to jita and become agent *****s and macro miners, cause fleet battles will be a thing of the past..
Kriz Lupin	Posted - 2006.08.08 02:41:00 - [145] The war against RA has become boring. Don't get me wrong, RA are some of the best pilots out there and can take kill an equal or larger force with ease. They are VERY good pvpers. But, imho, it has become a stalemate. I left KOS for this reason. It has become repetative. The current game mechanics have made it impossible for the coalition to drive RA away and also made it impossible for RA to take important systems back. Stalemate. ATM, I cant see RA losing C-J, but at the same time, I cant see RA taking anymore systems, they have been pos'ed out. Current game mechanics and MASSIVE lag in large fleet/pos battles have made it....well...dull. Large fleet battles have a random outcome, imo. Some days the coalition do very well, other days RA do. I have been there and seen it MANY times. It just depends on who has the most lag atm. I have to say though, RA do VERY well when outnumbered. RA, never met anyone as good at pvp as you guys, whatever your tactics. Coalition, never met anyone as determined as you guys. All of you, fly safe and keep up the fight. Anyway, good fights all and good fun.
Shadoo The Taining corp Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2006.08.08 02:53:00 - [146] Lots of discussion on the topic, speculation and spinning. They say, a picture tells a thousand words -- so here's the link to edited FRAPS footage: C-J6MT Battle FRAPS. Now, I wasn't on the Capital TS or gang. I don't know what went on and I haven't talked to the pilots in quesion. However, looking at it all -- here's what I do note: If you look at it carefully from an FCs perspective, you should note the position of the dreads, carriers and support fleet. As already stated on the forum threads, it's obvious everything's done by the book. Support BSes on the grid, aligned. Carriers behind the Dreads, aligned. You should note what happened when RA engaged and what people were shooting at or more importantly, why no one seemed to warp for minutes or start shooting for minutes. You should note how long it took for Carriers to warp in to support the first Dread taking fire. Why is that? Were they all asleep? Perhaps you might note when my cov ops pressed "stop" and when the message actually pops up to say ship is stopping. Maybe that had something to do with it... You should note that despide some claims by RA that the Naglfar was in Siege mode after all the other capitals + support had warped out and thus couldn't warp out -- magically minutes before the RA fleet is anywhere near firing positions -- message pops up saying that an RA pilot has started warp scrambling a Naglfar, just sitting alone out there with two other capitals. Those who've engaged dreads, know what it means. This could have been an epic battle to FRAPS and edit. But in the end I hope you agree with me after seeing the footage, it's something else... ...Something that needs a fix, before the new features.
Kriz Lupin	Posted - 2006.08.08 03:20:00 - [147] Shad, I agree. Large scale wars are, atm, pointless. EVE cannot deal with the lag in such engagements. Its random. Hence why I left alliance wide stuff. EVE can only deal with small scale warfare, and, tbh, that is where the fun is. Until the EVE client can deal with massive fleet ops without randomness and massive lag, I really dont see the point in trying it. It just really isnt fun. Anyway shad, you know where i am , if you are up for some fun.
Yazoul Samaiel Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.08.08 04:32:00 - [148] Originally by: Pastora Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel And all their Fanboi supporters also who think that their lame gameplay is worth cheering for ! You really need to grow up. I agree with you i need to grow up and do the following so u can accept me as a grown up: - Log off after 15 minutes timer has expeired from a cheap gank. - Wear 3 wcs in combat . - W*** complexes 24/7. - Stroke my E-peen on EVE-O after every battle i go in and splatter total nonsense of forums since i usualy win using suspicious tactics which eventualy be banned . Did i miss something mum ? "What ever that doesn't Kill me just makes me stronger"**
Lunas Feelgood Euphoria Released Euphoria Unleashed	Posted - 2006.08.08 04:47:00 - [149] Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel Originally by: Pastora Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel And all their Fanboi supporters also who think that their lame gameplay is worth cheering for ! You really need to grow up. I agree with you i need to grow up and do the following so u can accept me as a grown up: - Log off after 15 minutes timer has expeired from a cheap gank. - Wear 3 wcs in combat . - W***** complexes 24/7. - Stroke my E-peen on EVE-O after every battle i go in and splatter total nonsense of forums since i usualy win using suspicious tactics which eventualy be banned . Did i miss something mum ? I thought you alrdy did that??
Yazoul Samaiel Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.08.08 05:02:00 - [150] Originally by: Lunas Feelgood Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel Originally by: Pastora Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel And all their Fanboi supporters also who think that their lame gameplay is worth cheering for ! You really need to grow up. I agree with you i need to grow up and do the following so u can accept me as a grown up: - Log off after 15 minutes timer has expeired from a cheap gank. - Wear 3 wcs in combat . - W*** complexes 24/7. - Stroke my E-peen on EVE-O after every battle i go in and splatter total nonsense of forums since i usualy win using suspicious tactics which eventualy be banned . Did i miss something mum ? I thought you alrdy did that?? I was kinda wondering when u will show up to start the usual "Plesantries" If you find a kill mail that i was usign stabs in combat or any one to claim i even logged off in combat i will agree with what u say , untill then Ciao "What ever that doesn't Kill me just makes me stronger"**



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