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Sound God
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Posted - 2006.08.07 10:43:00 -
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Dear Developers,
How do you comment upon the fact that some of Russian players use VERY obscene Russian words in their nicknames? Is this a case worth reporting to you, or we let them go?
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Avon
Caldari
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.08.07 10:47:00 -
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If they offend you, petition them.
The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
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Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.08.07 10:48:00 -
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 Originally by: Avon
If they offend you, petition them.
This is probably why the petition queue seems endless though. People are soooo sensitive. :/
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Ivan Kirilenkov
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Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2006.08.07 10:51:00 -
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As mentioned; if the nicknames offends, petition it and the GMs will investigate it.
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Avon
Caldari
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.08.07 10:52:00 -
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Originally by: Jim McGregor
Originally by: Avon
If they offend you, petition them.
This is probably why the petition queue seems endless though. People are soooo sensitive. :/
I think it is more because people often pretend to be offended, where really they don't care at all.
Still, if offence is genuine, a petition is the correct course of action.
The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
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Antoinette Civari
Black Omega Security
E.R.A
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Posted - 2006.08.07 10:52:00 -
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Originally by: Jim McGregor
This is probably why the petition queue seems endless though. People are soooo sensitive. :/
I don't think most of them actually care about the insult but petition anyway just to **** someone off.
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2006.08.07 11:13:00 -
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Should I petition certain system and constellations that are named with rather mmm funny names...?
For example, the system 'Balle' - Swedish slang for the male genitalia.
Constellation, '*****kan' - If read '*****-kan', Swedish slang translated into an english word starting on C ending on unt with the added word 'can' (c.unt-can).
Altho I find those two laughable whenever I pass through.
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Baldour Ngarr
Artemis Rising
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Posted - 2006.08.07 11:45:00 -
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Originally by: Avon
Originally by: Jim McGregor
Originally by: Avon
If they offend you, petition them.
This is probably why the petition queue seems endless though. People are soooo sensitive. :/
I think it is more because people often pretend to be offended, where really they don't care at all.
Actually, it's got jack-diddly-squat to do with being offended. Obscenities are not allowed in people's names, whether they offend me or not.
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Monkey Brother
Happy Life Creator
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Posted - 2006.08.07 12:05:00 -
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Originally by: Baldour Ngarr
Originally by: Avon
Originally by: Jim McGregor
Originally by: Avon
If they offend you, petition them.
This is probably why the petition queue seems endless though. People are soooo sensitive. :/
I think it is more because people often pretend to be offended, where really they don't care at all.
Actually, it's got jack-diddly-squat to do with being offended. Obscenities are not allowed in people's names, whether they offend me or not.
That was exactly the point (I think). People petition about things they don't even care about just to be a tard and so they can feel 'holy' because they've helped fight a horrendous crime.
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Hailen
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Posted - 2006.08.07 12:09:00 -
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Originally by: Baldour Ngarr
Actually, it's got jack-diddly-squat to do with being offended. Obscenities are not allowed in people's names, whether they offend me or not.
QFT
btw, are you american?
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Gariuys
Evil Strangers Inc.
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Posted - 2006.08.07 12:12:00 -
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My alt is Asnar, apparently in some scandinavian language that's obscene.... should I get a name change? Ofcourse not geez.... Virtually everything is obscene in some language, stop caring so much. If it's trully offensive then petition. But***** in zwalihi isn't gonna offend many if any, so really...
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Tachy
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Posted - 2006.08.07 12:13:00 -
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Breaking the rules about names and making your name stand out in the open will get your name petitioned and changed.
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Gariuys
Evil Strangers Inc.
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Posted - 2006.08.07 12:20:00 -
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Originally by: Tachy
Breaking the rules about names and making your name stand out in the open will get your name petitioned and changed.
And how would anyone known all obscene words in any language? STOP CARING.
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Tachy
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Posted - 2006.08.07 12:25:00 -
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You know the rules and you know what your chosen name means.
Unless you're not the only one speaking that language, you might run into troubles you could have avoided easily.
The GM care about those rules to keep the game available for young people too.
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Avon
Caldari
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.08.07 12:30:00 -
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Originally by: Tachy
You know the rules and you know what your chosen name means.
Unless you're not the only one speaking that language, you might run into troubles you could have avoided easily.
The GM care about those rules to keep the game available for young people too.
It is, however, perfectly possible to unknowingly pick a name that is offensive in a language you do not speak.
Maybe the last survivor of a lost tribe in South America may find the name "Tachy" to be an outrage of the highest proportions .. should your character name be changed?
The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
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Gariuys
Evil Strangers Inc.
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Posted - 2006.08.07 12:39:00 -
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Originally by: Tachy
You know the rules and you know what your chosen name means.
Unless you're not the only one speaking that language, you might run into troubles you could have avoided easily.
The GM care about those rules to keep the game available for young people too.
I know the rules quite well, but I definetly don't speak any scandinavian language and the only reason I know is cause someone told me after 18 months of playing him. And so far, noone has ever noticed, beyond that 1 individual. It was a completely made up name, atleast afai knew at the time. Not about to petition my own name cause by some freaky coincedence my name means ass in swedish. Did I already mention that people should STOP CARING!
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Tachy
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Posted - 2006.08.07 12:41:00 -
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The rules are there for me too.
If the GM working on the petition decides that my name breaks the rule and has to be changed, I'd have no problem with it. It would hurt a bit after using the name for about 20 years in different games.
In games under the hood of SOE and Blizzard, your name would break the rule of 'No trademark allowed'. A friend had to change his name because it was a brandname in India. *shrug* Here it is good for a chuckle seeing you flying under the banner of a moderately priced cosmetic brand.
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Gariuys
Evil Strangers Inc.
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Posted - 2006.08.07 12:45:00 -
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Or a http://www.avoninflatables.co.uk/ boat shop....
Then again, tachy is a programming language, several illnesses, and some tool too measure speed.
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Virida
Mindstar Technology
United Confederation of Corporations
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Posted - 2006.08.07 12:51:00 -
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If "asnar" is a profanity, would "asen" be it too, who means donkey? (since you get "AS" when cutting of nar?)?
A long time ago, a other EVE gamer got into trouble, since some letters in the middle of the name accidentally were a norwegian words meaning "devil", and who is used about as englishmen use the word "bloody".
Whats more, words who makes sense in norwegian, sounds bad in german, since my language consist of a LOT and LOT of borrowed german words, who is garbeled by hundreds of years.
In some mmo's, the common chat even is cencoring some words who mean i coudnt even use norwegian in private conversations, and even some city names in norway were touched.
I get the problem, i really do. poor GM's.
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La Tortura
Infinite Style Incorporated
Chorus of Dawn
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Posted - 2006.08.07 12:52:00 -
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Btw, "Otsasai" system name makes giggle half of Russians in eve when they see it for the first time. Souds like rude "suck me".
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Avon
Caldari
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.08.07 12:57:00 -
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Originally by: Tachy
The rules are there for me too.
If the GM working on the petition decides that my name breaks the rule and has to be changed, I'd have no problem with it. It would hurt a bit after using the name for about 20 years in different games.
In games under the hood of SOE and Blizzard, your name would break the rule of 'No trademark allowed'. A friend had to change his name because it was a brandname in India. *shrug* Here it is good for a chuckle seeing you flying under the banner of a moderately priced cosmetic brand.
Except my name has no relation to that cosmetic company, popular though that misconception may be in those with little or no sci-fi culture.
The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
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Avon
Caldari
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.08.07 12:59:00 -
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Originally by: Gariuys
Edited by: Gariuys on 07/08/2006 12:46:33
Or a http://www.avoninflatables.co.uk/ boat shop....
I use Avon tyres on my car too .. ZV3's to be precise.
The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
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Leto Nyx
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Posted - 2006.08.07 13:05:00 -
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Originally by: Chribba
Should I petition certain system and constellations that are named with rather mmm funny names...?
Please don't avoid the profanity-filter. -Ivan K
Altho I find those two laughable whenever I pass through.
Did Ivan just edit out an in-game system name for profanity? 
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Gariuys
Evil Strangers Inc.
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Posted - 2006.08.07 13:10:00 -
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Originally by: Leto Nyx
Originally by: Chribba
Should I petition certain system and constellations that are named with rather mmm funny names...?
Please don't avoid the profanity-filter. -Ivan K
Altho I find those two laughable whenever I pass through.
Did Ivan just edit out an in-game system name for profanity?
Guess so.... which is quite ehm.... interresting.
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Craminu
Gallente
Red Dwarf Mining Corporation
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Posted - 2006.08.07 13:25:00 -
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Originally by: Virida
If "asnar" is a profanity, would "asen" be it too, who means donkey? (since you get "AS" when cutting of nar?)?
A long time ago, a other EVE gamer got into trouble, since some letters in the middle of the name accidentally were a norwegian words meaning "devil", and who is used about as englishmen use the word "bloody".
Whats more, words who makes sense in norwegian, sounds bad in german, since my language consist of a LOT and LOT of borrowed german words, who is garbeled by hundreds of years.
In some mmo's, the common chat even is cencoring some words who mean i coudnt even use norwegian in private conversations, and even some city names in norway were touched.
I get the problem, i really do. poor GM's.
that word would be interesting to see. I am norwegian, and the word devil are spelled "djevel" cant say i se anything wrong with that. however if he used the word "jµvel". thats an different story. hehe
i have seen players in this game an other called alot of different names. all from cities to not so good names. lol
But usally i just convo the player, and have an chat about his name, just to let him know the meaning in other language. usally it always end in some nice convo's. with lots of lol and rofl's included. hehe
i did eve hear about an car from fiat some years ago. The car company did call the new car "*****". they had to remove it because the name are norwegian for an certain female part. It were all over the newspapers here. kinda funny :) but it didnt go long before they changed the name.
When we have so many language in eve and other mmorpg's. we are bound to get some name crashes. Some gets offened, some dont.
If the name offend you, you should report it. if not add him to your adress book and have an laugh evry time he logs on :)
Btw in my corp there are another player who has the same name as an small city part were i come from. kinda cool :) gives me an smile when he logs on. reminds me on my young days.. lol 
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Caleb Paine
Itchy Trigger Finger Brothers
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Posted - 2006.08.07 13:30:00 -
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Edited by: Caleb Paine on 07/08/2006 13:32:15
It all depends tbh, if someone clearly shows to have the mind of a 13 yearold using a name which on purpose is pure profanity, I'll report him. If it's on the edge I have no problems with it... the thing is, people who understand humor know where the line is, people who don't and just try too had go WAY beyond what's acceptable.
Saw a corp ticker NEGER, Dutch for n*i*g*g*e*r*, corp description was 'Negers in space', the CEO's info had something with 'Neger' in it too... and yes, it was a Dutch guy. That's pushing it, I reported it and it got changed.
Was I offended? No not really, but idiots like that should learn where the boundaries are.
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Tachy
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Posted - 2006.08.07 13:31:00 -
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No, he did filter out an attempt to avoid the profanity filter. I hope we're not discussing moderation, or that discussing is considered bad language.
@Gariuys:
Tachy is widely related to the Greek word for speed.
Seed: yes, a bit. It is still missing a lot, but the RP is fantastic.
Gypsy Kings: They still exist? They must be old these days. No, I am not a fan of them.
@Avon: Boats and tires? Didn't know about those. Good to know.
A neighbour sold the beauty products, and she always gave some teasers to my parents.
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Benco97
Gallente
On Ravens Wings
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Posted - 2006.08.07 13:37:00 -
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funny thing is I used to be CEO of a Corp called "Cock's Rocks" A mining corp.
It was so called because of my actual RL name.
Stephen Benjamin*****ayne.
I never got a single complaint ^^
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Avon
Caldari
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.08.07 13:40:00 -
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Originally by: Tachy
@Avon: Boats and tires? Didn't know about those. Good to know.
A neighbour sold the beauty products, and she always gave some teasers to my parents.
Well, I actually picked it for something completely unrelated to any of those .. it comes from the greatest sci-fi TV series of all time!
The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
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Kuritorisu
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Posted - 2006.08.07 13:49:00 -
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Interesting name Avon.
Its the Celtic word for river, when the Romans invaded England, and asked the locals what the local river was called most said Avon. Hence allot of rivers in the UK are called Avon from those census. It is also a sin about uncontrollable emotions/lust under Halakhah (a collective of Jewish religous laws). Its also the name of a charcter from blakes 7.
Language is a wonderfull thing and its often the cause of many conflicts as people put their own interpretations into it, if something is meant to cause offensive it is usually painfully obvious from the offended person, but can be completely innocent misinterpretation.
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prsr
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.08.07 13:58:00 -
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The whole "i'm offended" thing just needs to be dropped imo. Taking offense is a personal emotion and petitioning everytime you are offended just takes time away from more important things that the people at CCP can do instead of rating someones emotion as credible and justified or not on some vague scale of political correctness.
I could say i'm offended by the nick "sound god" since everyone knows there is no sound god, just the flying spaghetti monster. Is CCP going to act on that? Are they going to be the people deciding which religion to protect and which one can be mocked?
Let the players take their own responsibility for their actions including their choice of name, don't like someones name? Go out and shoot him and see if that makes you feel better.
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Cheyenne Shadowborn
Caldari
Citizens of E.A.R.T.H.
E.A.R.T.H. Federation
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Posted - 2006.08.07 14:28:00 -
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Originally by: Caleb Paine
Saw a corp ticker NEGER, Dutch for n*i*g*g*e*r*
Means the same in German btw.
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Brazero
Amarr
Noble House
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Posted - 2006.08.07 15:08:00 -
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Originally by: Cheyenne Shadowborn
Originally by: Caleb Paine
Saw a corp ticker NEGER, Dutch for n*i*g*g*e*r*
Means the same in German btw.
And in all of Scandinavia. I know a guy with a char called Turboneger, and I remember a butthead from FIX calling him a racist. Quite funny actually, Turboneger is a so called rock band |
Tachy
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Posted - 2006.08.07 15:12:00 -
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Turbonegro only so called rockband?
I have seen them live four times. They're gods on the stage. 
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Sound God
Gallente
Vaab and Company
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Posted - 2006.08.10 05:56:00 -
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Edited by: Sound God on 10/08/2006 05:57:04
Edited by: Sound God on 10/08/2006 05:56:46
Tons of OFFTOPIC. You missed the point guys.
I started topic not about the innerdeep meaning of nicknames or its resemblence to offensive words in other languages. It's about direct Russian F-words and obsceneties.
I know Russian players whose nicknames are meaning nothing but obscene and offensive words in Russian. They are aware no one among the devs understands Russian and that's the way they have fun in the game, calling themselves ... ummm... words of offensive sexual-genital or homosexual lexics... such as PIDARASIK, and different combinations including PIZD*, HUE*...
If it was a Russian forum - I would have been already banned for such words. I can't name them here in English you know. But it's really an unpleasant case to see such nicks in space or talking to you.
It's not a veeery big problem for me, but I was just asking what's the official point of view on the issue.
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Sir Juri
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2006.08.10 05:59:00 -
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Originally by: Sound God
Edited by: Sound God on 10/08/2006 05:57:04
Edited by: Sound God on 10/08/2006 05:56:46
Tons of OFFTOPIC. You missed the point guys.
I started topic not about the innerdeep meaning of nicknames or its resemblence to offensive words in other languages. It's about direct Russian F-words and obsceneties.
I know Russian players whose nicknames are meaning nothing but obscene and offensive words in Russian. They are aware no one among the devs understands Russian and that's the way they have fun in the game, calling themselves ... ummm... words of offensive sexual-genital or homosexual lexics... such as PIDARASIK, and different combinations including PIZD*, HUE*...
If it was a Russian forum - I would have been already banned for such words. I can't name them here in English you know. But it's really an unpleasant case to see such nicks in space or talking to you.
It's not a veeery big problem for me, but I was just asking what's the official point of view on the issue.
So you "only" want to ban russians  
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Aeaea
XanoTech
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Posted - 2006.08.10 06:12:00 -
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Originally by: Ivan Kirilenkov
As mentioned; if the nicknames offends, petition it and the GMs will investigate it.
Can I petition system names?
[Upper / Lower] Debyl
Debyl when pronounced sounds just like the russian word for "retard."
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Sound God
Gallente
Vaab and Company
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Posted - 2006.08.10 06:41:00 -
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Originally by: Ivan Kirilenkov
As mentioned; if the nicknames offends, petition it and the GMs will investigate it.
Sorry, I missed this post. So now it's all clear. Thank you Ivan.
Originally by: Aeaea
Can I petition system names?
[Upper / Lower] Debyl
Debyl when pronounced sounds just like the russian word for "retard."
That's a very unique and funny coincedence))) I didn't know about this system. Thank you, I will tell my mates to check this retarded system.
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WeetBix
ANZAC ALLIANCE
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Posted - 2006.08.10 06:52:00 -
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Originally by: Gariuys
Originally by: Leto Nyx
Originally by: Chribba
Should I petition certain system and constellations that are named with rather mmm funny names...?
Please don't avoid the profanity-filter. -Ivan K
Altho I find those two laughable whenever I pass through.
Did Ivan just edit out an in-game system name for profanity?
Guess so.... which is quite ehm.... interresting.
Ignore the rest of this thread. I'm more interested in this now!
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Tellenta
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Posted - 2006.08.10 06:57:00 -
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Edited by: Tellenta on 10/08/2006 07:02:27
how do you reply to the topic that in eve chat is unfiltered meyham... but you rarely see curse words... open a can of stfu and die
speaking of which someone had a friend named judas, and thier character named jesus, how funny is that.. had to let jesus know that i heard bad things about judas he might be out for you...
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Drilla
Shinra
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.08.10 07:37:00 -
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Originally by: WeetBix
Originally by: Gariuys
Originally by: Leto Nyx
Originally by: Chribba
Should I petition certain system and constellations that are named with rather mmm funny names...?
Please don't avoid the profanity-filter. -Ivan K
Altho I find those two laughable whenever I pass through.
Did Ivan just edit out an in-game system name for profanity?
Guess so.... which is quite ehm.... interresting.
Ignore the rest of this thread. I'm more interested in this now!
What was the systemname?
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Posted - 2006.08.10 07:56:00 -
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"Political Correctiveness" EVE version
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Jin Entres
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.08.10 07:57:00 -
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Originally by: Avon
Originally by: Tachy
@Avon: Boats and tires? Didn't know about those. Good to know.
A neighbour sold the beauty products, and she always gave some teasers to my parents.
Well, I actually picked it for something completely unrelated to any of those .. it comes from the greatest sci-fi TV series of all time!
Aww I was hoping you were John Avon.
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Chochko
Black Omega Security
E.R.A
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Posted - 2006.08.10 08:08:00 -
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John Avon is the best painter of MTG cards EVER!!!
And this is my favorite Forest Land picture.
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Tachy
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Posted - 2006.08.10 08:16:00 -
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Originally by: Sound God
Edited by: Sound God on 10/08/2006 05:57:04
Edited by: Sound God on 10/08/2006 05:56:46
Tons of OFFTOPIC. You missed the point guys.
I started topic not about the innerdeep meaning of nicknames or its resemblence to offensive words in other languages. It's about direct Russian F-words and obsceneties.
I know Russian players whose nicknames are meaning nothing but obscene and offensive words in Russian. They are aware no one among the devs understands Russian and that's the way they have fun in the game, calling themselves ... ummm... words of offensive sexual-genital or homosexual lexics... such as PIDARASIK, and different combinations including PIZD*, HUE*...
If it was a Russian forum - I would have been already banned for such words. I can't name them here in English you know. But it's really an unpleasant case to see such nicks in space or talking to you.
It's not a veeery big problem for me, but I was just asking what's the official point of view on the issue.
I think you'd be very surprised by ccp's resourcefulness.
/me points towards Marfa Gudmundsd=ttir, aka. Masha (See EON #3, page 16).
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Kuolematon
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2006.08.10 09:05:00 -
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Top3 finnish EVE names:
1. Liu Kaskakka
2. Van Hapieru
3. Kilo Paskaa
Yay for us
Unnerf Amarr!
"Just because you can utterly ruin another player's game doesn't mean that you must."
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Ichabod Dirange
Iscariot Enterprises
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Posted - 2006.08.10 09:50:00 -
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Originally by: Brazero
Originally by: Cheyenne Shadowborn
Originally by: Caleb Paine
Saw a corp ticker NEGER, Dutch for n*i*g*g*e*r*
Means the same in German btw.
And in all of Scandinavia. I know a guy with a char called Turboneger, and I remember a butthead from FIX calling him a racist. Quite funny actually, Turboneger is a so called rock band
No it doesn't, neger is a descriptive term of someone black, from the latin negro, it has f*** all to do with the n-word, only PC correct people that won't even fly their own flag and sing their own national anthem 'cause it may offend some immigrant would interpret it that way.
And the band is called Turbonegro so I guess it's all about percieved intent.
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Hatuk
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Posted - 2006.08.10 10:02:00 -
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hey Sound God... grow up man!
as your nick suggest you must be some right wing conservative from a country i wont name here 
play the game and leave others be...
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Gariuys
Evil Strangers Inc.
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Posted - 2006.08.10 10:04:00 -
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Originally by: Aeaea
Originally by: Ivan Kirilenkov
As mentioned; if the nicknames offends, petition it and the GMs will investigate it.
Can I petition system names?
[Upper / Lower] Debyl
Debyl when pronounced sounds just like the russian word for "retard."
Hmmm guess the dutch adn the russions use the same word for it then, or somewhat same cause sounds the same here.
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Merdaneth
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Posted - 2006.08.10 10:08:00 -
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If you're senstive and easily offended, you should probably avoid all international communities. Because its quite easy to get offended by others who might not intend to offend you among other-thinking other-speaking people.
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Bhaal
Minmatar
M. Corp
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.08.10 10:24:00 -
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If I was a GM and received petitions day after day about "offensive" names or words all day long, I'd want a button to convert those players' EVE subs to WoW subs right on the spot.
Worse than perma-banning...
The world seems to be full of so many panzy assed wussies that take offense to everything these days...
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Gallente
Lyrus Associates
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.08.10 11:11:00 -
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Political incorrectness is doubleplusungood crimethink.
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Vargrh
Gallente
Stupid People Always Need Killing
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Posted - 2006.08.10 11:27:00 -
[53]
Edited by: Vargrh on 10/08/2006 11:27:02
Its also quite possible for someone to have their real name in one part of the world that of itself could be taken as rude by a person in another... the filter removes the examples but i'm sure you are aware of them already.
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Nicholas Barker
Caldari
Rampage Eternal
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Posted - 2006.08.10 11:48:00 -
[54]
Originally by: Gariuys
Originally by: Tachy
Not about to petition my own name cause by some freaky coincedence my name means ass in swedish.
that's a reason to petition your own name, lolololol
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Scorpyn
Caldari
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2006.08.10 13:38:00 -
[55]
Edited by: Scorpyn on 10/08/2006 13:44:14
Originally by: Gariuys
..Not about to petition my own name cause by some freaky coincedence my name means ass in swedish. Did I already mention that people should STOP CARING!
I've never heard the word asnar before (and I'm swedish), so either it's a local thing, or someone is lying, or it's a word that's not longer in use.
Or someone forgot to tell me 
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Scorpyn
Caldari
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2006.08.10 13:42:00 -
[56]
Edited by: Scorpyn on 10/08/2006 13:42:42
Originally by: Drilla
What was the systemname?
Probably Balle. There is also a constellation (or was it a system?) named *****kan, which could also be considered to be somewhat... well... weird...
Ok, that system wasn't censored... dunno then...
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Mar Drakar
Gallente
LDK
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Posted - 2006.08.10 14:02:00 -
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I think many of you just don't understand that swearing in russian is ... well it sounds funny but... much much more developed than english, or any other language I know, the before mentioned pizda* and hui* words are a swearing buthemselves, but they also can be used in LOADS of situations, that some of english guys just cant comprehend. Its just a totaly different mentality and language.
Lets take a small example:
nipizdy - in russian means stop talking nonsense just a bit harsher..., but as you can see it has ni as negative part pizdy as ... well ...whatever...
but thats only one of many examples... pratically almost every word for action in english ( or most other languages) can be switched with a partially swearing word in russian... of course that is more like a slang not the official language, but the boundaries are not so harsh, and swearings are much more varied than english f-word combinations.
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Stront3h
Minmatar
Trinity Nova
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Posted - 2006.08.10 14:17:00 -
[58]
Dutch players quite often convo me about my name. 
It wasn't intentional as I'm not Dutch myself. I even petioned a GM about it, asking to get it changed (also a vain attempt to remove the number as we've all moved on from there)but they wouldn't have any of it and refused to change it.
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Posted - 2006.08.10 14:19:00 -
[59]
Swearing in English isn't as one-dimensional as schoolbooks and Hollywood productions want you to believe.
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Gallente Mercantile Exchange
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Posted - 2006.08.10 14:33:00 -
[60]
Originally by: Baldour Ngarr
Actually, it's got jack-diddly-squat to do with being offended. Obscenities are not allowed in people's names, whether they offend me or not.
An obscenity wouldn't be an obscenity if somebody wasn't offended by it right? Discovery channel showed some African tribe where men wore leather pouches to cover their package and a string between their butt-cheeks and around their waiste to keep it up. I wasn't offended although I'm sure you'd be if I stripped down to a leather lunch box and danced around on your lawn. Obscenity is subjective.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/obscenity
1. The state or quality of being obscene.
2. Indecency, lewdness, or offensiveness in behavior, expression, or appearance.
3. Something, such as a word, act, or expression, that is indecent or lewd.
4. Something that is offensive or repulsive to the senses.
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Disbelievers of Fate
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Posted - 2006.08.10 14:45:00 -
[61]
Originally by: Gariuys
Originally by: Aeaea
Originally by: Ivan Kirilenkov
As mentioned; if the nicknames offends, petition it and the GMs will investigate it.
Can I petition system names?
[Upper / Lower] Debyl
Debyl when pronounced sounds just like the russian word for "retard."
Hmmm guess the dutch adn the russions use the same word for it then, or somewhat same cause sounds the same here.
DTbile in French is the same, or can also mean "crazy".
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Clytamnestra
Jazz Associates
R i s e
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Posted - 2006.08.10 15:59:00 -
[62]
Jeez, this is not about someone's nick sounding slightly naughty in another language. It's about people who call themselves horrid things in russian, fully knowing that the GM's won't pick up on it.
If I had kids... and was Russian, I'd rather not want them playing a game where people called themselves "***** master spunk slinger" (wonder if the PC filter caught that).
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Posted - 2006.08.10 16:19:00 -
[63]
Originally by: Clytamnestra
Jeez, this is not about someone's nick sounding slightly naughty in another language. It's about people who call themselves horrid things in russian, fully knowing that the GM's won't pick up on it.
If I had kids... and was Russian, I'd rather not want them playing a game where people called themselves "***** master spunk slinger" (wonder if the PC filter caught that).
So, the frequent profanities in Local is ok by your "kids"?
IMO EVE isn't a kids' type of game; it's also not for those who get offended by a few expletives.
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Artemis Rising
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Posted - 2006.08.10 19:17:00 -
[64]
Originally by: Gericault m0id
Originally by: Baldour Ngarr
Actually, it's got jack-diddly-squat to do with being offended. Obscenities are not allowed in people's names, whether they offend me or not.
An obscenity wouldn't be an obscenity if somebody wasn't offended by it right?
Take that up with CCP; it's their rule.
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Thugs 4 less
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Posted - 2006.08.10 20:45:00 -
[65]
Edited by: Kilo Paskaa on 10/08/2006 20:46:58
Edited by: Kilo Paskaa on 10/08/2006 20:45:50
Originally by: Kuolematon
Top3 finnish EVE names:
1. Liu Kaskakka
2. Van Hapieru
3. Kilo Paskaa
Yay for us
Why im third?
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Posted - 2006.08.10 21:08:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Kilo Paskaa
Edited by: Kilo Paskaa on 10/08/2006 20:46:58
Edited by: Kilo Paskaa on 10/08/2006 20:45:50
Originally by: Kuolematon
Top3 finnish EVE names:
1. Liu Kaskakka
2. Van Hapieru
3. Kilo Paskaa
Yay for us
Why im third?
Maybe cause your toon's last name is closely associated to something that comes out of your rear end?
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Sound God
Gallente
Vaab and Company
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Posted - 2006.08.11 06:46:00 -
[67]
Originally by: Hatuk
hey Sound God... grow up man!
as your nick suggest you must be some right wing conservative from a country i wont name here
play the game and leave others be...
Hatuk, if you post here just for the process of posting, then I suggest you are some graphomaniac from a billboard I won't name here. Can you at least read what I have writen here before posting? I said twice that I wanted know what is official point of view, and you tell me to grow up. I have grown up enough to be able to read posts attentively, unlike you. So grow up yourself man.
Originally by: Tachy
Swearing in English isn't as one-dimensional as schoolbooks and Hollywood productions want you to believe.
I have a very thick dictionary of Dirty English. I swear most of people underestimate its potential))) If Russian has lot of curse word derivatives, English has tons of amazing combinations... It's as powerful as Russian... if not more...
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Mar Drakar
Gallente
LDK
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Posted - 2006.08.11 07:41:00 -
[68]
hey maby sucha competition about swearing dimensions could resolve wars?... who knows ;)
anyway I see CCP hiring some GM's with russian knowlegde in the near future... or training those available for various european laguages...
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Posted - 2006.08.14 10:34:00 -
[69]
White christian english speaking people are hypocrits when it comes to sex and swearing.
Above are aka "white trash"
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Posted - 2006.08.14 11:02:00 -
[70]
Bah... words only have the power that WE give them.
They're just words and shouldn't be offensive at all... again... unless you ALLOW them to be.
Example... if I tell you that in Spanish the words " mi tio" mean "F*** YOU !!" then you're likely to get offended everytime I say it to you, have it in my name, use it in my sig, etc. etc.
You'll get all indignant, petition me, get angry with me, etc.
Then I'll come back at you and tell you that "mi tio" means "my uncle" in Spanish... now when I use it, when I say "mi tio" to you... are you offended? Most likely not.
The words haven't changed... so what has? Why aren't they offensive anymore? Why were they offensive before?
Because YOU gave them the power to be offensive. Because you ALLOWED them to be offensive.
So, quit giving words that power and you'll go through life with much lower blood pressure :)
Words only have the power that we allow them to have... so don't allow them to have any power over you... it's really that simple.
Just my 2 ISK.
Take care all.
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Benco97
Gallente
On Ravens Wings
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Posted - 2006.08.14 11:08:00 -
[71]
As far as I see it this is just silly, what is humanity coming to these days if we all *****(OMG that means something else to some people) foot around each other. Eventually we're all going to live in our own little domes so that we can't possibly offend or be offended.
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Ivan Kirilenkov
Forum Moderator
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2006.08.14 11:19:00 -
[72]
Thread cleaned, and let's not turn it into a discussion about what various swear-words does mean. Also, please do not discuss moderation on the forums. If you have any questions, feel free to mail us on [email protected] as always. To clarify; you may discuss if non-english obscene words should be allowed or not, but you may not A) use another language than english on the forums, and you may B) not break the forum-rules and evade the profanity-filter (even if you are translating some system-name that means something nasty in Swedish).
And of course, if you are offended by a character, corporation or alliance name, please feel free to petition it with the reason.
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Constantine Arcanum
Gallente
IMPERIAL SENATE
Pure.
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Posted - 2006.08.14 11:21:00 -
[73]
Originally by: LUGAL MOP'N'GLO
Maybe cause your toon's last name is closely associated to something that comes out of your rear end?
toon?!?
omg die
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The Imperial Commonwealth
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Posted - 2006.08.14 11:36:00 -
[74]
I reckon the GMs should address the reported user in the language that the offending word is in, to determine if the name was choosen knowing full well the meaning of it. Probably shouldnt really matter though - if the name is offensive in a different language, its offensive to someone, and hence should be changed.
Ive a hunter in Wow with the name 'Thoin', which means something funny in Irish (its usually preceded by 'p=g ma') - good thing Irish people dont offend easily though 
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Ignore what others say: Fit what you want, with what you have, whenever you want.
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Nicose
Caldari
The Vendetta Mercenary Company
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Posted - 2006.08.14 12:03:00 -
[75]
who gives a toss really??? if your older than 10 in the UK you've heard just about every obsenity under the sun in the play ground (this process was accelerated by the f**cking chav culture) and im sure the same if even roughly applies to america and every other country in the world. they've all heard it before, we'll all hear them again so STFU! 
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Logan Feynman
Legio Ancientis
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Posted - 2006.08.15 03:39:00 -
[76]
Although I understand the need for the existance of anty-profanity rules in the current environment, as parents might be appauled at seing profanity in their children's game, and lawsuits might ensue as many countries make it against the law to expose children to profanities...
... and fully aware that this is going a bit off-topic, I am honestly interested in whether anyone has good arguments against exposing children to profanity other than "it's against the law". Some scientific studies of the effect of profanity exposure on children would be perfect, but I would also settle for some well-thought out arguments.
Why is profanity wrong?
This is not a jab at ccp or a discussion of forum moderation. Profanity needs to be absent brom both the game and the forums, this is unquestionable.
Originally by: Marvin the Paranoid Android
You live and learn. At any rate, you live.
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Umbra Congregatio
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Posted - 2006.08.15 03:57:00 -
[77]
Originally by: Chribba
Should I petition certain system and constellations that are named with rather mmm funny names...?
Altho I find those two laughable whenever I pass through.
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Dahin
Euphoria Released
Euphoria Unleashed
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Posted - 2006.08.15 04:22:00 -
[78]
you must all be referring to the free charname change that was introduced some time ago
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Murukan
Minmatar
The Priory
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Posted - 2006.08.15 04:27:00 -
[79]
If you are offended by some stupid name stop being a prat and shut your whiny little mouth
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Obsidian Sins
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Posted - 2006.08.15 04:40:00 -
[80]
Originally by: Murukan
If you are offended by some stupid name stop being a prat and shut your whiny little mouth
/signed
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Posted - 2006.08.15 05:54:00 -
[81]
The OP has the word GOD in there name. I find it offencive. As My beliefs say that to oneself GOD is wrong.
Should I Petition it? or figure theres bigger Events going on in the world to take my time?
See my point?
I can understand yours. But where do we stop?
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Tachy
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Posted - 2006.08.15 06:57:00 -
[82]
Petition and let the Devs and GM decide about the issue.
It is their world and their work respective.
I think it would be a good idea to follow their rules.
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SonOTassadar
The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.
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Posted - 2006.08.15 07:17:00 -
[83]
This may have already been covered, as I only read the first page, but:
This game is played in English. Rules of other languages don't matter. Furthermore, boo-f***ing-hoo.
When Serenity is released, they will probably be subject to Chinese grammatical rules, and should not be penalized for words in English considered offensive, or any other language, for that matter.
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Posted - 2006.08.16 11:37:00 -
[84]
You *********** ******* ******** ****** in **** *** *** your HOLEas! Is this obscene/profane in any way ?
This Game By Chinese Communist Productions
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Snowpig
United Alliance
Nova Republic
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Posted - 2006.08.16 11:49:00 -
[85]
this whole discussion reminds me of a joke about "Why Georgians will never be friends of Italians?"
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Splagada
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.08.16 11:51:00 -
[86]
Edited by: Splagada on 16/08/2006 11:51:35
Originally by: Avon
I use Avon tyres on my car too .. ZV3's to be precise.
Avon used (still is?) some kind of shopping for soap and stuff, my mother used to do that lol
splagada is the noise made by a 1 month old who tries to talk. in ancient sanskrit it also means "georges moustaki"
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