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Dixon Caldari	Posted - 2006.08.12 19:51:00 - [31] Originally by: Death Kill Started new alt, caldari achura. Been playing since 2003 btw. Less than 5days in the game and my missiles hit 130 per hit when doing missions. LOL!!! Are the people in charge of balancing this game drunk? Well... oh dear this is silly. Find me one PvPer who will tell you that missiles and caldari need a nerf. Missiles are not easy mode, nor are turrets. Missiles have crap DPS compared to turrets and larger missiles suck all the balls vs smaller targets. If you people don't understand how missiles differ from turrets then you really should be crying for nerfs... The thing that you really should stop doing is comparing is the comparing of some factor that you feel favours your stance and leaving out the arguements against it. - - - - - - I have no strong feelings one way or the other...
Jim McGregor Caldari	Posted - 2006.08.12 19:56:00 - [32] Basicly people shouldnt say "missiles" but "t2 torps" in combination with overpowered. :) --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
Dixon Caldari	Posted - 2006.08.12 19:58:00 - [33] Originally by: Jim McGregor Basicly people shouldnt say "missiles" but "t2 torps" in combination with overpowered. :) True, as a T2 torp user I fully agree with that statement. However as a T2 turret user I can't say that T2 turret ammo is very balanced either... - - - - - - I have no strong feelings one way or the other...
Dethis Caldari Eve University	Posted - 2006.08.12 19:58:00 - [34] Quote: Downsides: They can be counted by defender missles, turrets can't. They cost quite a lot more than other ammunition. They're a tad more complicated than turrets. They take time to reach the target, and can be out manuevered. No Missiles are not more complicated then turrets not in the slightest bit. I dont care for the flame bait of EL OH EL NURFE CALDARZI 1111!!!oneoneeleventyone posts Since i fly gallente and could care less about caldari but i couldnt let the missiles more complicated then turrets comment go without saying no. Just... no -------- Kill em all and let god sort em out
Anwyl Gallente	Posted - 2006.08.12 19:59:00 - [35] I'd love to see caldari ships to more damage to similar class ships and less damage to non-similar class ships. Currently a turret BS can do more to a frig than missiles can afaik, but it'd be nice to see some REAL polarization; Big missiles don't seem to do enough to BSes, but with the precision missiles they can do a ton to frigates. I see missiles as having the best balance potential in a rock paper scissors type of way.
Dethis Caldari Eve University	Posted - 2006.08.12 19:59:00 - [36] Originally by: Jim McGregor Basicly people shouldnt say "missiles" but "t2 torps" in combination with overpowered. :) QFT -------- Kill em all and let god sort em out
Sidonn	Posted - 2006.08.12 20:45:00 - [37] Edited by: Sidonn on 12/08/2006 20:46:35 So ... even though you have been playing for 3 years and have probably trained for every shiptype and T2 equipment ... you're still whining because in some ways newer people can get up to speed a little more quickly? Besides, missiles are avoidable very easy...people simply warp out when they see a missile boat coming and you haven't scrambled yet. Cry more plzkthx
Caleb Paine	Posted - 2006.08.12 20:48:00 - [38] People should learn to understand the difference between damage and DPS... that is all. ----------------- Death smiles at us all, all a man can do is smile back.
Samirol Ore Mongers	Posted - 2006.08.12 20:51:00 - [39] Originally by: Kella Mal Edited by: Kella Mal on 12/08/2006 17:53:59 Downsides: They can be counted by defender missles, turrets can't. They cost quite a lot more than other ammunition. They're a tad more complicated than turrets. They take time to reach the target, and can be out manuevered. That's all I can think of, yes, missles are imba. But who cares? :D 1. Defenders are broken to hell, takes 4 to kill a torp IIRC 2. probably the only valid point you have 3. NO NO NO NO NO 4. not really, only torps. Tier 1 Battleship lotto, 2m/ticket
Jim McGregor Caldari	Posted - 2006.08.12 20:52:00 - [40] All we really need is a med slot missile defense system that works like tracking disruptors. Im hoping it will see the light of day before 2010. --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
Death Kill Caldari direkte	Posted - 2006.08.12 21:00:00 - [41] Originally by: Dixon charge of balancing this game drunk? Well... oh dear this is silly. Find me one PvPer who will tell you that missiles and caldari need a nerf. Missiles are not easy mode For the state for the state for the state
Death Kill Caldari direkte	Posted - 2006.08.12 21:01:00 - [42] Originally by: Josiah Caledon I'd assume that it was a industrial type one that has maybe 5k points into gunnery using a civilian weapon. 9 million. For the state for the state for the state
Atom HeartMother Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2006.08.12 21:06:00 - [43] Originally by: Death Kill Started new alt, caldari achura. Been playing since 2003 btw. Tell me somthing about castor then?
Death Kill Caldari direkte	Posted - 2006.08.12 21:22:00 - [44] Originally by: Atom HeartMother Originally by: Death Kill Started new alt, caldari achura. Been playing since 2003 btw. Tell me somthing about castor then? Wich bug do you want to know about? For the state for the state for the state
Edey Minmatar	Posted - 2006.08.12 21:23:00 - [45] Here is the balance: everyone can use this ship, everyone have the same bonuses on it, what's problem? __________________________________________________
Eilie Minmatar	Posted - 2006.08.12 21:27:00 - [46] Originally by: Death Kill Started new alt, caldari achura. Been playing since 2003 btw. Less than 5days in the game and my missiles hit 130 per hit when doing missions. LOL!!! Are the people in charge of balancing this game drunk? If you think missiles are unbalanced, than you must've spent 3 years doing nothing but PvE. This is a PvP game and is balanced only for PvP. Please go back to WoW now. Thank you!
Lucian Corvinus Gallente Expert Systems	Posted - 2006.08.12 21:33:00 - [47] Originally by: Jim McGregor All we really need is a med slot missile defense system that works like tracking disruptors. Im hoping it will see the light of day before 2010. All we really need are modules like the tracking link, tracking enhancers and tracking computer for missiles, then we can introduce some med slot disruptor.
Jim McGregor Caldari	Posted - 2006.08.12 21:35:00 - [48] Originally by: Lucian Corvinus Originally by: Jim McGregor All we really need is a med slot missile defense system that works like tracking disruptors. Im hoping it will see the light of day before 2010. All we really need are modules like the tracking link, tracking enhancers and tracking computer for missiles, then we can introduce some med slot disruptor. You need tracking for missiles? --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
Lucian Corvinus Gallente Expert Systems	Posted - 2006.08.12 21:40:00 - [49] Originally by: Jim McGregor Originally by: Lucian Corvinus Originally by: Jim McGregor All we really need is a med slot missile defense system that works like tracking disruptors. Im hoping it will see the light of day before 2010. All we really need are modules like the tracking link, tracking enhancers and tracking computer for missiles, then we can introduce some med slot disruptor. You need tracking for missiles? Well acutally you asked for a tracking disruptor, so you tell me, you want to disrupt the tracking speed of the launcher, I just wanted to be prepared
Gamer4liff Caldari Metalworks THE INTERSTELLAR FOUNDRY	Posted - 2006.08.12 21:41:00 - [50] Originally by: Jim McGregor Originally by: Lucian Corvinus Originally by: Jim McGregor All we really need is a med slot missile defense system that works like tracking disruptors. Im hoping it will see the light of day before 2010. All we really need are modules like the tracking link, tracking enhancers and tracking computer for missiles, then we can introduce some med slot disruptor. You need tracking for missiles? What he is saying is that there are no modules that give the same effect as those for missles. The argument is valid. Also this is the probably one of the worst threads iv'e seen this week, please lock it mods...
Atom HeartMother Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2006.08.12 21:54:00 - [51] Originally by: Death Kill Originally by: Atom HeartMother Originally by: Death Kill Started new alt, caldari achura. Been playing since 2003 btw. Tell me somthing about castor then? Wich bug do you want to know about? tell me somthing you couldnt serch for on the forums
Death Kill Caldari direkte	Posted - 2006.08.12 22:04:00 - [52] Originally by: Atom HeartMother Originally by: Death Kill Originally by: Atom HeartMother Originally by: Death Kill Started new alt, caldari achura. Been playing since 2003 btw. Tell me somthing about castor then? Wich bug do you want to know about? tell me somthing you couldnt serch for on the forums I havent done a search so I dont know what to mention really. 1000 frigate march Warping with asteroid belts stuck to you Not all systems in Empire had refinerys ? What do you want to know, how can I convince you? For the state for the state for the state
Gah'khaz Caldari	Posted - 2006.08.12 23:16:00 - [53] Originally by: Death Kill What do you want to know, how can I convince you? What is the answer to the great question of life, the universe and everything?
xeom Obsidian Sins	Posted - 2006.08.12 23:29:00 - [54] i'd say t2 torps are the most balanced t2 ammo,next to barrage.Mabye cut down the range a little but mabye it was ment to take out support in fleets. then agian 200km is a lot of distance and 37 seconds should be enough time for you to jet. No i don't fly caldarie. CCP where are our t2 shield power relays? \| Join[..SIN]
MrRookie Caldari	Posted - 2006.08.12 23:32:00 - [55] Originally by: Death Kill Started new alt, caldari achura. Been playing since 2003 btw. Less than 5days in the game and my missiles hit 130 per hit when doing missions. LOL!!! Are the people in charge of balancing this game drunk? Right... so you have been playing for these three years and you never launched a single missile before? And now you wanna tell the devs how to balance the game..? ________________________________________________
Death Kill Caldari direkte	Posted - 2006.08.12 23:34:00 - [56] Edited by: Death Kill on 12/08/2006 23:34:37 Originally by: MrRookie Originally by: Death Kill Started new alt, caldari achura. Been playing since 2003 btw. Less than 5days in the game and my missiles hit 130 per hit when doing missions. LOL!!! Are the people in charge of balancing this game drunk? Right... so you have been playing for these three years and you never launched a single missile before? And now you wanna tell the devs how to balance the game..? I had a caldari alt who I traded in for isk after Exodus. However I didnt recall Caldari being that much of an I win button. For the state for the state for the state
Aeaus Tharsis Security	Posted - 2006.08.12 23:44:00 - [57] Originally by: Death Kill I had a caldari alt who I traded in for isk after Exodus. However I didnt recall Caldari being that much of an I win button. Yea nothing changed, just cruise missile frigates, ravens killing frigates, minor stuff I assure you. My Guides
Firane Band of Builders Inc. Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.08.12 23:44:00 - [58] Originally by: Death Kill Are the people in charge of balancing this game drunk? I'm sure they'd be happy to admit it. -----------
Father Weebles Lost Dawn Technologies	Posted - 2006.08.12 23:48:00 - [59] Originally by: xeom Can't remeber the last time i thought.ONOESSS!!!!! a caracal/ferox is in the belt i better not try anything funny. lewl
Dethis Caldari Eve University	Posted - 2006.08.13 00:03:00 - [60] Originally by: Father Weebles Originally by: xeom Can't remeber the last time i thought.ONOESSS!!!!! a caracal/ferox is in the belt i better not try anything funny. lewl Qft -------- Kill em all and let god sort em out

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