Now we'll never have to log in again <3

End of EveMon, or bigger justification to using it?

Well , there goes my last reason to log in every now and then ....




wish i was joking ....

Pretty much my position atm. Not even sure I'm renewing next year tbh. Certain issues have yet to be resolved in game.

http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/coming-to-eve-online-in-the-phoebe-release-on-november-4th/

I... wow...

CCP is brining us an unlimited skill queue... holy snarky

Easy.. just queue up for a year, come back next year and see if they got fixed...

Pretty much my position atm. Not even sure I'm renewing next year tbh. Certain issues have yet to be resolved in game.

Which issues?

Which issues?

But hey, why fix stuff when you can distract us with unlimited skill queues.

Ah, so you are displeased with the SQUIRREL!!!! methodology of problem resolution employed by CCP? It worked so well for the Dustbunnies when their uprising was quelled by the addition of image signatures.

If you thought the concurrent user count was fading, wait until this hits TQ.

I was here back when there wasn't even such a thing as a skill queue. If you wanted a skill when the first one finished, you damn well came back to your PC and set the next one! Or you did without! Setting skill training was a skill in itself, and it took planning and dedication. If you weren't up to it, that was your problem. That's what separated the men from the boys. That's how we paid our dues back then.

But now, it's "I'll just set an infinite queue and go back to thumbing my little smart phone, little spoiled candy ass that I am." Well, I for one will be watching this next generation of players who grow up in this mommy-coddling environment. You want to be in my club, you prove that you're tough enough to be in it! It's all going to hell in a hand basket, I tell you.

http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/coming-to-eve-online-in-the-phoebe-release-on-november-4th/

I... wow...

CCP is brining us an unlimited skill queue... holy snarky

Nexted up on deck, "Modular POS's"

Darmok, his feet in the sand.

Heck, when I started playing you had to build a microprocessor out of sand before you could start doing anything! Kids these days with their stupid little ironic 1950's hats and girl jeans.

You want to be in my club, you prove that you're tough enough to be in it! It's all going to hell in a hand basket, I tell you.

If the only reason for the 24 hour skill-queue was to force people to log in (who didn't want to) and annoy them every day.... it says a lot

Darmok, his feet in the sand.

People just logging in for the sake of training skills is the intellectual equivalent of flying around the world just for the sake of racking up frequent flyer miles.

IB4 qq'ing as a result of no one actually playing the game, skilling into battleships because they think they're leet high-skilled players with the biggest ships, then dying in hoards because they don't know anything about the game.

Seriously, does anyone play games for the sake of playing games anymore, or is it just for the digital 'rewards' they can get?

I accidentally bought ~500 dollars worth of PLEX off Amazon. So, was feeling quite bad about that... Decided to use almost all of it on subscription time. So now I can plug in skills until 2017. Also have some ISK to buy the skills with.

I think it will turn out well in the end, it gives me a reason to keep up with the game, also gives me a reason to just play SkillQueueOnline for a long time because there's almost no point in logging in as I've played this game in the past.

Because this turned out pretty well for me, I would suggest others try it. As I've said I've played this game before but always unsubbed because it became too boring to justify the subscription... but at the same time, it kept me from training skills hard enough so that the game could at one point not be boring (possibly)

Either way, the 3 year project character on this account's skill sheet is starting to look pretty.

When I started playing there were no network protocols. I duct taped a copper wire into a rock and morse coded 1s and 0s with a stick to log in.

So there.

It's another if you think it's stupid for a business to reject 'stupid' customers, or just those with other motivations, for whatever reason they have. Like travel ect.

Yeah? That's pretty good. But when I started playing, Britney was hot and their weren't even any Walmart photos of her yet. And Jessica hadn't even put on a Daisy Duke's. And as for losing 150 lbs--she hadn't even gained 10 of them yet. What do you say to that?

From a purely business perspective, an MMO's ideal customer pays for a subscription every month, and never logs on.

From a purely business perspective, an MMO's ideal customer pays for a subscription every month, and never logs on.

if you only log in to update skills and haven't already quit, this change won't make you quit.

stop being so over dramatic.

Pretty much my position atm. Not even sure I'm renewing next year tbh. Certain issues have yet to be resolved in game.

uuuh guys?

You understood that to queue a skill, you still need to fullfill the requirements?
You can not put "Heavy Missile specialisation" into queue if you do not have "heavy missiles" skilled to 5.
You still cannot even inject it.

Forum:
DEV says "change" and forum cries start before the things are understood.

Don't think anyone mentioned they would quit over this , they -including me- stated they wouldn't need to log in any more , well allmost.I don't see anyone stating that it is a bad thing in general either ... just people talking about their personal effect this would have.Stop being so over dramatic dave .


Lol , quitting eve ... don't be so absurd

Pretty much my position atm. Not even sure I'm renewing next year tbh. Certain issues have yet to be resolved in game.

Don't think anyone mentioned they would quit over this

Pretty much my position atm. Not even sure I'm renewing next year tbh. Certain issues have yet to be resolved in game.

he's thinking of not renewing his sub

so, the definition of quitting.

Doesn't seem like either of them are quitting over this change. They're quitting over other unrelated reasons and are just stating now they won't even have to log in for skill changing.

Please don't try to cloud Dave's mind with facts. *snickers xD*

When reading this thread why am I reminded of Monty Python's Four Yorkshire Men?

Yeah, well I was there when Al Gore invented the internet. We tried to Pete Townshend a Model M, but the damn thing ended up just PRINTing LINE 60 instead.

Now we'll never have to log in again <3

I may be cynical, but to me, this is CCP pulling one out of the basket of tricks that they have had available, but need to toss in to try and counter the bad player press for the Jump Fatigue changes. Sure, this is nice, but what's the point in training skills over an unlimited amount of time if the game is unplayable for what I want to do?

Do I need to put a tear bucket in this thread too?

You do not understand, I am not crying, I am rejoicing. They are finally installing something that should have been here for years. All they have to do is not fix what is not broken.

Stuff

You forgot the part about a handful of players being able to do logistics for an entire alliance of thousands of players. Too bad CCP backpedaled on that one with JFs, but that nerf is coming too, the tears will be glorious.

Nexted up on deck, "Modular POS's"

wait.. wait.. wait.

So you are telling me that the abbilty of one alliance to move from one side of the galaxy to another in about 10 seconds, is not broken?

so the 100+ threads in F&I filled with hundreds of post about people saying this mechanic is broken means.. its not broken?

Stop looking at the trees when you need to look at the forest.

Read between the lines of what is coming and you will clearly see this was a GOOD thing. And when all is said and done, anyone who was crying over the jump fatigue will be kicking themselves going "OH **** THATS WHY THEY DID IT! THIS IS AMAZING!!!!!"

I would suggest some time off,
because you show signs of instaresponding.

For crying out loud, you guys just moan about anything. So the numbers will drop...so what? People who only add skills to their queue don't play anyway, so it might affect the stats, but it won't affect the game.

!
I think you are right!

Wow.....

..... that's .....

....... like .........

..... the first time ever! :O



yay! ^_^

...I would suggest some time off,
because you show signs of instaresponding.

I'm having one of those days... I had to read that 5 times..!
instar-esponding
in-staresponding
instares-ponding
instare-sponding
...
until.. aaah: insta-responding

I'm having one of those days... I had to read that 5 times..!
instar-esponding
in-staresponding
instares-ponding
instare-sponding
...
until.. aaah: insta-responding

It's sunday , either open a beer or crawl back into bed.

Exactly...

Some people whine about anything...

What good is a stat when 1/2 of those people are just logging in to set skills...

I am ofcourse the biggest noob to ever walk the earth but....

Can you actually put up a few months worth of skilltraining?
Theres a bunch of em that wont even inject when you havent trained others first?

Haven't been playing too long yet so...

I could put up years of skills if I wanted to, just from stuff I'm currently able to train.

I could put up years of skills if I wanted to, just from stuff I'm currently able to train.

Now we'll never have to log in again <3

CCP: We're sorry to nerf everything into oblivion but we still want your money so here is an unlimited skill queue so you can keep paying us while not logging in to change skills.

EvE will be a lot emptier, soon itll be nothing left but the big blue doughnut in null, and Code in empire...and some bots

People just logging in for the sake of training skills is the intellectual equivalent of flying around the world just for the sake of racking up frequent flyer miles.

This is a nice change. Once I have all the outstanding skills injected I will set a skillqueue to get everything to level 5. In 10 years time when I will give this game another go it should be near done.

I hope remaps will be added to the queue as well.

Ah, so you are displeased with the SQUIRREL!!!! methodology of problem resolution employed by CCP? It worked so well for the Dustbunnies when their uprising was quelled by the addition of image signatures.

Now we'll never have to log in again <3

Darmok, his feet in the sand.

Darmok, and Jilad, at Tenagra.

The bittervet in me is deeply unhappy with this change.

The bittervet in me is deeply unhappy with this change.

i'm thrilled, i can;t tell you how many times i forgot a skill to be set. now i can set like a years worth and not mess with it

He's is talking about certain issues , not this change.FOr god's sake dave you are reallly trying to hard now.That's not so like you.

So you are even more likely to miss that the skill queue ran out a month earlier now.

The unlimited que would allow more "shake and bake alts". Yeah I know people will complain about character selling (which is legal in the game BTW).

What I mean is, when training an alt up for a specific role, what do you do with it in the meantime? The unlimited que would allow us to set up characters with specific goals and lay out the training ahead of time.

The only thing I am worried about is the restriction regarding queing up skill not yet trained for, even if the skill required is being trained for previously in the que - but then a skill cannot be injected until certain requirements are met too - this too creates an obstacle for a "fire and forget" (or come back in 6 months) skill que.



Hopefully being able to inject a skillbook in the que becomes possible. Yeah I know the hurf blurf crowd will find it grating for something to be easier, as if having to log in and inject a skill and set the que is going to somehow give them an opportunity to gank your rookie ship or something and their game will be ruined now that we don't have to. But an infinite que without provisions for skill injection and dependency filling automatically won't amount to the kind of differences we envision.

It's interesting that in two different threads you mention eveoffline and scammers ...
... and I would love to see the stats about scammers on Chribba's site.

You sound seriously butthurt ... and I doubt that's intended.

Anyway ... what eveoffline doesn't show is that we break 40k users online ...
... when the US time hits. You're just a hater.

40k chars is not 40k users. Just to keep the facts straight.

CCP's been selling accounts to account holders a lot more than to new people. Running 3-10 accounts simultaneously has been common for a few years now while many claim the game is growing due to log-in counts. This will lower those numbers down a bit more but I don't think it'll bottom them out by a long shot.

I wonder if they'll try to get NewSpace into the game faster ...
... or at least fast enough.

It's weird that people have completely forgotten about this ...
... but the game seems to be progressing towards it ... which is nice.

I don't think people have forgotten about that. It's that it is an empty concept at the moment. CCP haven't provided any content or detail to why people should get excited about it, so very few have. We've all heard promises about how the new promised feature will be cool and then gotten nothing even remotely close to those plans delivered, so CCP can't rely on vague promises in the same way a new or proved developer could. With CCP it could end up being anything from truly game changing to meh to a gigantic waste of development, which gets scrapped before it even releases.