Changes that don't backfire and make a bad situation worse. To do that you have to look at the underlying realities of WHY a situation exists and also keep in mind that we are talking about a game (meaning you must take human nature into account).

Wishful thinking and good intentions don't work.

k...do you have any specific, detailed counter-proposals? It's very easy to say "this idea is ****." Doing so is also completely useless. Vague statements like "account for human nature" are scarcely less useless. Do you have any plan that involves specific buffs (preferably with numerics) e.g. add mexallon ore to nullsec grav sites, nerf/buff null income by x%, implement mechanic X instead of mechanic Y. You know, actual changes?

I'm not a game designer. Being silent when you see a bad way of thinking being repeated for the umpteenth time because one doesn't have godlike powers to decern a better way is dumb.

The difference between me and you is that I KNOW I don't know how to fix 'the problem', and would rather accept that than just go "well DO something, anything" which is the thing that is actually useless. CCP is committed to what they are doing, none of this talk is gonna change anything (you see it din't stop Dominion or the Anom nerf) .

Feel free to ignore my (and others) warning, CCP does lol. But remember that you did so in 6 months after we've had time to see the results of the thing you are (wishfully and without thought) supporting.

Eve Online - the only game where it's mandatory for players to point out game design flaws, propose solutions, gather feedback on those solutions, react to said feedback and introduce required fixes to proposed solution and finally submit it to dedicated forum section where it can be ignored by devs and trolled even more by other players.

Your warning is worse than useless without an alternative. So far, we have 2 choices: CCP's sov revamp or the status quo. If both are ****, present an alternative.

In All Honesty though it wouldn't be a bad idea to get a mass conglomerate together to harass these area's and start breaking up Null sec again.

About sov though, at least we just ~naturally~ have fatigue (in real life) mechanics for shooting structures.

I consider joining Pasta if the CEO of Love Squad approves ...

I am in Deklein.

I see dozens of sites ...
... in every system ...
... and no one seems to run them.


Seriously, wtf?


People can't complain that there is lack of isk making opportunity ...
... if they don't even take the opportunity that is right there ................................

Caught this one before I turned off.

Why run them?

Why not? They are there.
They are doable.

There is nothing keeping these people from doing them.
There are sites available in abundance in systems that were EMPTY ...
... except my own presence, of course.

There is *no* reason not to run them, as they are there ...
... they are doable ... and there's barely any danger.

If all you see is ISK-making ...
... then I have to question your intelligence.

If the only reason to play ...
... is to make ISK ...
... then I think you don't get the point of a game.

And even IF ISK-making was the only thing that counts ...
... which is a bullshit argument to begin with anyway ...
... then they'd still make more money running these sites ...
... than by not doing them and just sitting around!


You just more and more start to sound like a nullsec propaganda parrot.


That being said ... there's really nothing to add to your drivel.


Good night.

This just doesn't make sense!

Given any number of people,
there must be a smaller number of people who would run them,
yet nobody does that. It just makes no sense to me.


Hell, I'm no fan of PvE either but I acknowledge the fact that people exist who run it.
How can it be that of thousands of people, nobody does them?

Because it lights up the PvE counter and people will come and drop onto them?
I understand that it's no fun, but how is it possible that SO many people share the same opinion??

I just don't get it! :O

Because you cannot comprehend what has been posted in this thread:
1) They're too low on income and even at maximum upgrades they cannot support more than a few pilots in space
2) They're extremely easy intel for other groups to come and camp the system for no income at all, see 1)
3) 90% of the sites are garbage, see 1)
4) Shooting crosses is boring

I guess that sums it up nicely.

Do you have first hand experience?

Thanks!

This just doesn't make sense!

Given any number of people,
there must be a smaller number of people who would run them,
yet nobody does that. It just makes no sense to me.


Hell, I'm no fan of PvE either but I acknowledge the fact that people exist who run it.
How can it be that of thousands of people, nobody does them?

Because it lights up the PvE counter and people will come and drop onto them?
I understand that it's no fun, but how is it possible that SO many people share the same opinion??

I just don't get it! :O

Hell, I'm no fan of PvE either but I acknowledge the fact that people exist who run it.
How can it be that of thousands of people, nobody does them?

CCP referred to the lower grade anomalies (which will now become the only ones available to most sovereignty holders) as 'filler' - and indeed that's how they are regarded by the players. So CCP are being quite open about the fact that they want most 0.0 systems to be useless again.

The apparent aim of Dominion was to get more people out in 0.0 which had for a long time been the preserve of already very rich and powerful organisations, and the aim of this reversal seems to be to get those people back to empire.

The Dev blog talks about promoting conflict, but I don't really see any possible change in the state of war in null-sec. The huge power blocks are always fighting, and everyone else is being packed off back to their level-four agents.

Because it lights up the PvE counter and people will come and drop onto them?
I understand that it's no fun, but how is it possible that SO many people share the same opinion??

I just don't get it! :O