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Roule Beagle Corp	Posted - 2006.08.19 15:38:00 - [91] Edited by: Roule on 19/08/2006 15:38:22 Originally by: Deva Blackfire Originally by: Amerame First, you'll have to kick us out of tribute, it's not a done deal yet, second bring it. Don't forget where we came from, and that the core of the TCF pvper LOVE NPC 0.0 fight, we're looking forward fighting you in our terms. You are repeating this like if it was something to be proud of. It is exactly same as empire wars - when you dock and log off as soon as enemy is on local. Pathetic sight to be honest. You try to act as good PvPers but you revert to hide and outblob as soon as you are in NPC region - maybe it is time to change attitude. And yes - OCC/Beagle roaming gangs were much bigger problem than you in Venal (wow once in a week they get 20 ships, go to IMK log there, log back on go to NPC stations). If they are always docked as the last few comments in this thread suggest then why cant you take down unprotected POSs? You Heavily Outnumber them but are still not incontrol of the system after several weeks of this, So this must make you like really Godly pvp'ers Right?
Turiya Flesharrower Beagle Corp	Posted - 2006.08.19 15:41:00 - [92] Originally by: Nafri Ohh comon TCF guys, I didnt smack in my post nor I said you cheat anyway, nor Im grumpy about your holding D7. The only thing which really annoys me is the actual game mechanics, which favours POS wars with only fighting next to the POS to defend them when they are in reinforced. You do it, fair game. But dont expect any respect or "good fight" from us, there is just no reason for it. Doing a POS war is effective, and hardly beatable atm, but it wont help you to win wars. You know it, we know it. To BeagleCorp and POE: I know its hard to be unimportant in this universe, but accept it and deal with your fate properly. And Venal was just nice for you since we had no real interest in kicking you out, but now we may have one. (ooc: For the guys who dont get it, I mostly post IC here ) Awww, well that really hurt; I regret that my insignifican corporation can't match the sheer number of forum warriors and blobs that D2 and its puppets can field but hey at least we're having fun ingame. Considering the kind of warfare that D2 members seem to have to deal with every day, i.e POS wars and lag-tastic fleet battles, the same obviously can't be said for you. But let's remember kids, this game isn't about enjoying yourself at all, it's about looking big on some forum. But then, considering that D2 has been sustaining loss after loss over the past few months I'm not surprised that you guys need to belittle the accomplishments of TCF here. First BoB take apart Trust in EC-, then you break up G and form under the D2 banner. Then XZH is taken from you by a bunch of noobs in Frigates and Cruisers and it takes the intervention of BoB to bail you guys out. Now, despite the huge number of pilots you're fielding, you're losing to TCF in one of your former core systems. It's just one success story after another. It doesn't take a successful alliance to be important, it just takes a bif forum presence and the ability to form a blob. -----
Shiraz Merlot Octavian Vanguard	Posted - 2006.08.19 15:42:00 - [93] Originally by: Iorya Dragon OH it was lag, oh it was a gank, oh i left my guns home and equiped miners lasers, oh what game i am playing?!, i love what excuses u find for ur incoordonation. Who has the bigges blog? With the time these alliances that only rely on bloobing the ** out of their enemies, will fall. 3 alliances against one small dedicated one, it seems, and they still ***. I was in that gang. The level of coordination and discipline was excellent; the FCing was clear and precise; voice channel chatter was at a minimum. You were not in that gang, and know nothing. /sm
Iorya Dragon Beagle Corp	Posted - 2006.08.19 15:43:00 - [94] Originally by: Deva Blackfire Originally by: Amerame First, you'll have to kick us out of tribute, it's not a done deal yet, second bring it. Don't forget where we came from, and that the core of the TCF pvper LOVE NPC 0.0 fight, we're looking forward fighting you in our terms. You are repeating this like if it was something to be proud of. It is exactly same as empire wars - when you dock and log off as soon as enemy is on local. Pathetic sight to be honest. You try to act as good PvPers but you revert to hide and outblob as soon as you are in NPC region - maybe it is time to change attitude. And yes - OCC/Beagle roaming gangs were much bigger problem than you in Venal (wow once in a week they get 20 ships, go to IMK log there, log back on go to NPC stations). STOP THE FORUM WARRIORING! You are not the only alliances that atacked a pos for fuk sake. Stop ur stupid propaganda. It so silly...I pitty those who believe the ** u talking about. Guys that dont boder to post here on eve-o, try to not believe every crap u read, by forum warriors alliances. And for the guy that said we are not important, we keep the way it is, and the right ppl know it and feel it, we are not just another alliance in the north...i woudnt be there the way u guys are, even if i am payed for it. Bye! Closing the stupid topic, sorry TCF for flamming on ur topic, but i get **ed when seeing ppl like this. Cya and have fun.
Michra Caldari Rebirth Inc. Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2006.08.19 15:48:00 - [95] In fact we didn't hear of you either; we weren't in any kind of war, just NBSI. So that could explain why we were "not a problem". In fact, apart from D2 saying they'd remove us from Venal, nobody really seemed to care. BTW, somebody said earlier that we tried to NAP D2 when we arrived in Venal ? Is this some kind of ridiculous joke ? :) And keep cool about this all, it's bad for health... PS : the more you say "next week you'll be out of here", the more ridiculous you look, and the more your credibility vanishes when you fail at it.
Raul necrobie Minmatar COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2006.08.19 15:52:00 - [96] Quote: stop it guys :s Please, NAFist is right, stop flamming. stop to speak about Game defect and cheat, or lag, i lost two BS in two day and i couldn't activate any thing on my fit. Lag is for both side, try to have fun too. Only thing to say : Shout on Ex-Fa corp is sad. Tau Ceti Federation Vid.
Fred0 Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.19 15:52:00 - [97] Originally by: Michra BTW, somebody said earlier that we tried to NAP D2 when we arrived in Venal ? Is this some kind of ridiculous joke ? :) That was your side saying that. Then again your sides way of trying to nap someone is quite funny.
olyyy Gallente V I R I I Center for Disease Creation	Posted - 2006.08.19 15:53:00 - [98] Are Beagle corp in D7- or something ? *People never lie more than before the elections, during a war or after hunting.*
Roule Beagle Corp	Posted - 2006.08.19 15:56:00 - [99] Originally by: Michra In fact we didn't hear of you either; we weren't in any kind of war, just NBSI. So that could explain why we were "not a problem". In fact, apart from D2 saying they'd remove us from Venal, nobody really seemed to care. BTW, somebody said earlier that we tried to NAP D2 when we arrived in Venal ? Is this some kind of ridiculous joke ? :) And keep cool about this all, it's bad for health... PS : the more you say "next week you'll be out of here", the more ridiculous you look, and the more your credibility vanishes when you fail at it. Same old G, Different name, More friends = Same old result, Cant kick people out of D7-ZAC Enjoy your lagfest, coz tau ceti seem to be loving it
Deva Blackfire DAB RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.19 16:01:00 - [100] Originally by: Iorya Dragon STOP THE FORUM WARRIORING! You are not the only alliances that atacked a pos for fuk sake. Stop ur stupid propaganda. It so silly...I pitty those who believe the ** u talking about. Guys that dont boder to post here on eve-o, try to not believe every crap u read, by forum warriors alliances. And for the guy that said we are not important, we keep the way it is, and the right ppl know it and feel it, we are not just another alliance in the north...i woudnt be there the way u guys are, even if i am payed for it. Bye! Closing the stupid topic, sorry TCF for flamming on ur topic, but i get **ed when seeing ppl like this. Cya and have fun. Propaganda? Ask other "alliances" who attacked POSes what the results were. If you cant check it ill tell you: nul. RA vs southern alliances? Goons vs D2? All POS bashing attempts were lost. Not because we/they didnt have manpower/ships to do this. But when you throw 30+ capital ships at POS and still cant break it (lag, dreads pop before they can enter siege mode/reppers - check for screenies - they were on forums) then sth surely is broken with game mechanics. But as i see you are in corp that didnt engage any larger POS and never fought in POS wars. So actually what you are saying is bull. Try attacking POS and THEN tell me how much "fun fights" you had.
Roule Beagle Corp	Posted - 2006.08.19 16:09:00 - [101] Originally by: Deva Blackfire Originally by: Iorya Dragon STOP THE FORUM WARRIORING! You are not the only alliances that atacked a pos for fuk sake. Stop ur stupid propaganda. It so silly...I pitty those who believe the ** u talking about. Guys that dont boder to post here on eve-o, try to not believe every crap u read, by forum warriors alliances. And for the guy that said we are not important, we keep the way it is, and the right ppl know it and feel it, we are not just another alliance in the north...i woudnt be there the way u guys are, even if i am payed for it. Bye! Closing the stupid topic, sorry TCF for flamming on ur topic, but i get **ed when seeing ppl like this. Cya and have fun. Propaganda? Ask other "alliances" who attacked POSes what the results were. If you cant check it ill tell you: nul. RA vs southern alliances? Goons vs D2? All POS bashing attempts were lost. Not because we/they didnt have manpower/ships to do this. But when you throw 30+ capital ships at POS and still cant break it (lag, dreads pop before they can enter siege mode/reppers - check for screenies - they were on forums) then sth surely is broken with game mechanics. But as i see you are in corp that didnt engage any larger POS and never fought in POS wars. So actually what you are saying is bull. Try attacking POS and THEN tell me how much "fun fights" you had. BoB managed and did perfectly fine when they blob'd EC- If POS bashing attemps fail why are you all in D7-ZAC? Is your leadership that stupid they would take you into an unwinnable battle just for the giggles? If so i suggest you find another corp/ Alliance My Videos
Deva Blackfire DAB RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.19 16:14:00 - [102] Originally by: Roule BoB managed and did perfectly fine when they blob'd EC- If POS bashing attemps fail why are you all in D7-ZAC? Is your leadership that stupid they would take you into an unwinnable battle just for the giggles? If so i suggest you find another corp/ Alliance There were no defenders in EC- if you didnt know this. It was just taking down empty shells - and this is not a prob. After goons left XZH we did the same - removed all POSes without any opossition. But when there IS opposition in system - it suddenly becomes almost impossible.
Roule Beagle Corp	Posted - 2006.08.19 16:24:00 - [103] Originally by: Deva Blackfire Originally by: Amerame First, you'll have to kick us out of tribute, it's not a done deal yet, second bring it. Don't forget where we came from, and that the core of the TCF pvper LOVE NPC 0.0 fight, we're looking forward fighting you in our terms. You are repeating this like if it was something to be proud of. It is exactly same as empire wars - when you dock and log off as soon as enemy is on local. Pathetic sight to be honest. You try to act as good PvPers but you revert to hide and outblob as soon as you are in NPC region - maybe it is time to change attitude. So if they hide when blobs come.......do you attack the POSs when you dont have a huge BloB support? That would make no sense now would it So either your doing the old propaganda trick or your talking crap which would make more sense My Videos
Deva Blackfire DAB RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.19 16:29:00 - [104] Ummm: Attack on POS without outblobbing = sure lose Attackign enemy fleet in space without outblobbing - depends on both sides setups/FCs etc. You can not win with smaller force against POS (especially death star). Period. BUT: you can win with smaller force in space if battle doesnt involve fighting at POS. Why? Because POS itself works like invulnerable meat grinding machine. It just locks and pops. In engagements without POS there is so called human factor: some ppl may panic, FC may give wrong orders. Also lag works equally on both sides. At pos? Lag doesnt stop POS from shooting.
Kye Kenshin Beagle Corp	Posted - 2006.08.19 16:31:00 - [105] Originally by: Deva Blackfire Originally by: Kye Kenshin Oh dear! The OMG EVERYONE NAP SUPER BLOB!!! tactic doesnt seem to be working now. Well good. I hate the fact that fights should come down to purely who has the most numbers and im pretty sure TCF would of had the same lag as you guys so you cant complain about it being unfair. Respect to you TCF for sticking it to the man. WTS: clue. Go attack POS - and then come back a little bit more educated. I've attacked enough POS thanks to know how it works and to know i never want to do it again. www.beaglecorp.com
Deva Blackfire DAB RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.19 16:41:00 - [106] Originally by: Kye Kenshin I've attacked enough POS thanks to know how it works and to know i never want to do it again. Exactly same point here - i dont like POS warfare at all. But sometimes it is necessity. Also you should know that we are on abt 2 month long roadtrip that consists ONLY POS warfare - and this isnt nowhere near "fun" of flying in small gangs.
Michra Caldari Rebirth Inc. Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2006.08.19 16:43:00 - [107] To get more or less back on topic, you say on the one hand that you'll destroy all our POS and ban us from The North (tm), and on the other hand you say no "death star" POS can be destroyed. So, what trick will you use to link both assertions ? How will you remove us from here while you say you can't ?
Electric Cucumber Amarr Beagle Corp	Posted - 2006.08.19 16:45:00 - [108] Originally by: Deva Blackfire But when there IS opposition in system - it suddenly becomes almost impossible. TCF fleets have ships with 100% resistances, it is impossible to destroy them.
Deva Blackfire DAB RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.19 16:46:00 - [109] Quote: You can not win with smaller force against POS (especially death star). hint: small force. Thats why we bring bigger forces :)
Deva Blackfire DAB RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.19 16:50:00 - [110] Originally by: Electric Cucumber Originally by: Deva Blackfire But when there IS opposition in system - it suddenly becomes almost impossible. TCF fleets have ships with 100% resistances, it is impossible to destroy them. Please stop making fool of yourself. I can tell you how typical fight at POS looks like: dreads are shooting, our BS in warp range. Enemy BS warps to dreads to kill em, we warp in to help dreads: warp to... at 15: 3-5 minutes before my ship moves (whoa i warped! im flyyyying now! now just hope my game doesnt crash on landing cause im toast) lock target: 3-5 minutes (just a while) (locked him! let me kill the primary!) activate gunz: 3-5 minutes (ohh noes - they are warping away before some of us even LOCKED!) lets warp off before POS kills us: 3-5 minutes of... omg omg warp (oh... POS is locking me - how nice, its guns are RED! whoa im on struct now.... still waiting for warp... pop oh - now my friend got locked... pop pop pop Wheeee we warped! My pod is safe!!!) Yes - typical warp in-warp out takes abt 15 minutes most of the time without any results (ie: no enemy kills, some losses from POS). Without lag we would warp in, enemy warps out, we warp out - possibly without loses or maybe one unlucky ship.
Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2006.08.19 16:58:00 - [111] Edited by: Nez Perces on 19/08/2006 17:01:07 Originally by: Michra, TCF To get more or less back on topic, you say on the one hand that you'll destroy all our POS and ban us from The North (tm), and on the other hand you say no "death star" POS can be destroyed. So, what trick will you use to link both assertions ? How will you remove us from here while you say you can't ? This is actually a pretty smart question.... Originally by: Deva Blackfire, Razor hint: small force. Thats why we bring bigger forces :) and this answer doesn't make sense in the light of the current lag situation. How can bringing more and more ships to the fight address the lag problems you are facing? Either the battle between TCF and D2/Allies is stagnant due to lag or one of the two entities is gaining the upperhand.. if one of you is gaining the upperhand.. why all the whining? If the situation is truly stagnant then the game mechanics cant handle your chosen tactics. In which case CCP either need to upgrade the hardware to accomodate you or you are plain out of luck and will have to come up some new tactic to oust TCF. I cant help feeling that D2/Allies have managed to get themselves into a circular argument, that doesn't make any sense. Either you can kick TCF out or you can't and if you can't well you can either suck it up or as an alliance blame CCP but the random whining is for little kids tbh.
dabster Minmatar Celestial Apocalypse	Posted - 2006.08.19 17:01:00 - [112] Massive lol @ Beagle corp in this thread, you guys learning french and applying to TCF or something? I thought you were coming to Fountain :( ___________________________ Brutors Rule! My Eve-vids; Click.
LeviUK Caldari hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.08.19 17:03:00 - [113] Not being funny but what is it with Beagle and their constant "look at me" presence in the forums? Personally I've found it's easier to get blood out of a stone that to get a fair fight (i.e. approaching even numbers) out of those guys. -
Deva Blackfire DAB RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.19 17:03:00 - [114] CCP wont improve hardware nor reinforce the node - i heard this WAY too many times in XZH. So i dont even bother abt petitioning/askign abt it in D7. As for combat - we will see. From time to time some of TCF poses go into reinforced - so sooner or later they might die. Or might not.
Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2006.08.19 17:07:00 - [115] Edited by: Nez Perces on 19/08/2006 17:07:47 Originally by: Deva Blackfire CCP wont improve hardware nor reinforce the node - i heard this WAY too many times in XZH. So i dont even bother abt petitioning/askign abt it in D7. As for combat - we will see. From time to time some of TCF poses go into reinforced - so sooner or later they might die. Or might not. Well you guys ought to make your mind up on what your alliance stance is... are you saying the game is borked?.. or are you saying that you are gonna 'soldier on' in less than adequate lag circumstances and kick TCF out? If its the latter then there is nothing to whine about.
Deva Blackfire DAB RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.19 17:09:00 - [116] Edited by: Deva Blackfire on 19/08/2006 17:10:11 Well - im speaking for myself not alliance :) Im just a pilot ;p But still: even if CCP wont help us with hardware - what would you do? Sit and wait for signs from heaven? Or just try again? EDIT: I see moderators in action ;p
Roule Beagle Corp	Posted - 2006.08.19 17:11:00 - [117] Edited by: Roule on 19/08/2006 17:13:16 You are an alliance.....we are a corp, we roam 0.0 looking for a fair fight and roam alot through your former space, if we can out blob you then i suggest you fire your recuiters My Videos
Roule Beagle Corp	Posted - 2006.08.19 17:12:00 - [118] Edited by: Roule on 19/08/2006 17:12:16 My Videos
Roule Beagle Corp	Posted - 2006.08.19 17:12:00 - [119] You are an alliance.....we are a corp, we roam 0.0 looking for a fair fight and roam alot through your former space, if we can out blob you then i suggest you fire your recuiters My Videos
Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2006.08.19 17:13:00 - [120] Edited by: Nez Perces on 19/08/2006 17:13:40

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