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Roule Beagle Corp	Posted - 2006.08.19 17:13:00 - [121] Forum lag...lets whine about that My Videos
Deva Blackfire DAB RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.19 17:13:00 - [122] Originally by: Roule You are an alliance.....we are a corp, we roam 0.0 looking for a fair fight and roam alot through your former space, if we can out blob you then i suggest you fire your recuiters Fair fight and outblob in one sentence? This doesnt make any sence tbh.
Turiya Flesharrower Beagle Corp	Posted - 2006.08.19 17:14:00 - [123] Originally by: dabster Massive lol @ Beagle corp in this thread, you guys learning french and applying to TCF or something? I thought you were coming to Fountain :( We were there for an evening on our 0.0 road trip but YZ-L was so full of BoB snipers that we decided to head into Delve. Got some nice loot; Dark Blood NOS ftw. Besides, the North is our first and only love and I can't see that ever changing Originally by: LeviUK Not being funny but what is it with Beagle and their constant "look at me" presence in the forums? Personally I've found it's easier to get blood out of a stone that to get a fair fight (i.e. approaching even numbers) out of those guys. Well we try to get a fair fight out of you guys, but every time we jump into one of your M-O camps with lesser or equal numbers we have to scramble to catch the stragglers as the majority of the gang warps or jumps out in fear. Besides, you're an alliance; how could you have a problem matching numbers with a mid-sized corp? -----
Deva Blackfire DAB RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.19 17:14:00 - [124] And forums eating posts - thats also worth mentioning (lets wait till mods get to this post ;p)
Shadowsword Gallente COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2006.08.19 17:56:00 - [125] Originally by: Fred0 Originally by: Michra BTW, somebody said earlier that we tried to NAP D2 when we arrived in Venal ? Is this some kind of ridiculous joke ? :) That was your side saying that. Then again your sides way of trying to nap someone is quite funny. AFAIK, we did. At that time, I think that every diplomats were acting more or less on their own, without discussing things between themselves first. At that time, we were more concerned about getting every ship in the fleet moving in the same direction than diplomacy. We figured that we could begin our installation in Venal an really get into diplomacy later. That was a stupid mistake, but then, most mistakes are stupid. So both D2 and ERA were told at the same time that we'd help them against the other side. Had they both accepted, TCF's diplomats would have realized their mistake, choosed a side and dropped the other NAP. ------------------------------------------ Nuhwall: Why are some Amarr ships warping backward? Shadowsword: whatever happen, if they need to flee they can honestly say the faced the enemy.
LeviUK Caldari hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.08.19 18:45:00 - [126] Originally by: Turiya Flesharrower Well we try to get a fair fight out of you guys, but every time we jump into one of your M-O camps with lesser or equal numbers we have to scramble to catch the stragglers as the majority of the gang warps or jumps out in fear. Besides, you're an alliance; how could you have a problem matching numbers with a mid-sized corp? We're obviously not seeing the same fights then. The reason I put myself in the recruitment forums was because I was bored to tears living in a region where none of our smaller gangs could get a fight out of anyone unless we were outnumbered 2:1 - that included Beagle, RTSQ and TCF (before they invaded Tribute). Mid-sized corp or not, you aren't really worth a blob, I've lived in Fountain where we had some determined aggressors (Red Brigades/LMM/Rubra) and they were worthy opponents, sorry but you aren't. Anyway, like I said, we clearly see this different from either side, so lets quit hijacking TCF's thread or it'll go on forever :p -
Turiya Flesharrower Beagle Corp	Posted - 2006.08.19 21:33:00 - [127] Originally by: LeviUK We're obviously not seeing the same fights then. The reason I put myself in the recruitment forums was because I was bored to tears living in a region where none of our smaller gangs could get a fight out of anyone unless we were outnumbered 2:1 - that included Beagle, RTSQ and TCF (before they invaded Tribute). Mid-sized corp or not, you aren't really worth a blob, I've lived in Fountain where we had some determined aggressors (Red Brigades/LMM/Rubra) and they were worthy opponents, sorry but you aren't. Anyway, like I said, we clearly see this different from either side, so lets quit hijacking TCF's thread or it'll go on forever :p I'll also stop posting here, but I will say this; we stroll into yours, IRONs, GUARD's, FLA's and Razor's home systems 3-4 times a week on average and have been doing so for months and meet zero to no resistance alsmot every time. We continuously jump into camps and fleets larger than our own; we have a reputation for it. Check any of our videos if you're skeptical on that point. Fountain is not Tribute; NPC region vs. conquerable so there's no comparison. We don't stab, we're not afraid and we rarely lose. Good luck to TCF; every night your reports of Dread kills and victories against the blob bring a smile to my face. It took balls to hit Tribute like you did and you have Beagle Corp's utmost respect for it. -----
General Furyan Legion Du Lys Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2006.08.19 21:56:00 - [128] 1st, respect to Morsus and FA old corps. Second, on my side point of view (TCF side of course) we are doing better than i was expected in Tribute. We knew the war will be hard, we also knew that we will be outnumbered. But you never learn in the easy way. Experience gained in Tribute will make TCF a reel treat to anybody willing to fight US! I'm learning to play with fantastic pvpers and leaders, great combat tactics, poeples that never fallback, with imagination that make us different from any alliance i have been in! Will we stay in Tribute? I dont know. But what i know is that you have a bunch of guys in front of you that will give you a hell of a fight for the D7 system. Action are on the ground of battle, so let it speak for itself! One last thing, each time i read "in 2 days your are out of Tribute and will disband", i bring more BS, i fight harder, that is exactly the kind of word to help us hold for months! Keep the good work! - General Furyan
Liet Traep Minmatar Black Lance Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.08.19 22:07:00 - [129] I see why TCF made this post. It's good for morale and good for their rep. They get to dsiplay themselves as the successful underdog valiantly facing the northern juggernaut and such. However the timing perhaps was not good. There has been very little smack in this war. Both sides have worked hard to remain polite and respectful. And TCF has enjoyed some success. But this post could be seen as braggadocio. And POS warfare is not fun. So perhaps less posting on the subject and more fighting would remove the temptation for one side to start smacking the other. We've kept it clean so far. Let's keep it in game and make the congratulatory posts after it's all over one way or another.
Lorth Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.08.20 00:06:00 - [130] Can someone explain to me why the last 2 pages have been fileld with a lot of smack from Beagle Corp? And as an honest suggestion to you guys (Beagle Corp) judging from your posts, you really don't have an idea what a POS war is like in a situation like this. You may have killed a couple in your time, but its pretty evident the you havn't been in a war like this. D¦ have, and LV have as well, talk to them since your posts are rather missinformed.
Fred0 Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.20 00:20:00 - [131] Edited by: Fred0 on 20/08/2006 00:23:14 Originally by: Lorth Can someone explain to me why the last 2 pages have been fileld with a lot of smack from Beagle Corp? Because we kicked them and their sorry KAOS buddies out of Tenal? And now they feel their corp can gain revenge by coat-tailing their smack on TCF actually trying to achieve something of substance? EDIT: For clarification. Beagles were a part of KAOS who used to own Tenal. And to everyone in the north nowadays they are known as the biggest macro-mining entity to date. Quite a few of them including species are now macromining up ASCN space but that's their deal if they want to support it.
UnSiViLiZeD Beagle Corp	Posted - 2006.08.20 00:28:00 - [132] Actually i still mine in your home system when your all AFK....... Car to look in S-E local once and while ? And from what i remember you didnt kick kaos or beagle out..... Diplomatic issues caused a packing of bags. And lorth youll be suprised of who has been in a lame 400 man pos lag war, many of us were also around when the gurista's invaded D7 :-) _______________________________________________ Life is a game if your not winning you must be loseing.
Sorja E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2006.08.20 00:28:00 - [133] English version follows. FTlicitations les gars, il Ttait temps que les francos s'unissent sous un mOme drapeau et se fassent leur place au soleil. Vous Otes la pour rester et vous ne ferez que devenir plus forts, continuez comme ta ;-) English version: same as in french. ____________________ Darko1107 > does anything in ascn space have tech II fittings? Quillan Rage > Iron ships
Turiya Flesharrower Beagle Corp	Posted - 2006.08.20 00:37:00 - [134] Originally by: Lorth Can someone explain to me why the last 2 pages have been fileld with a lot of smack from Beagle Corp? And as an honest suggestion to you guys (Beagle Corp) judging from your posts, you really don't have an idea what a POS war is like in a situation like this. You may have killed a couple in your time, but its pretty evident the you havn't been in a war like this. D¦ have, and LV have as well, talk to them since your posts are rather missinformed. Just responding to some smack from a prominent D2 member in this thread; you might say we're blobbing in response, familiar eh? And again I'll say this; we've been part of POS wars that involved more in local than are seen even now in D7-ZAC so no lectures are needed, and this was before the server upgrades were implemented. They weren't fun then and they certainly aren't fun now, however I believe that TCF's accomplishments are being unjustifiably belittled by D2 and friends. Originally by: Fred0 Because we kicked them and their sorry KAOS buddies out of Tenal? And now they feel their corp can gain revenge by coat-tailing their smack on TCF actually trying to achieve something of substance? EDIT: For clarification. Beagles were a part of KAOS who used to own Tenal. Laughing And to everyone in the north nowadays they are known as the biggest macro-mining entity to date. Quite a few of them including species are now macromining up ASCN space but that's their deal if they want to support it. Very Happy We gain revenge by visiting S-EV on a fairly regular basis and professing our love for Ernest in local. I think at this point we've had our revenge a hundred times over, now it's just about fun. -----
Fred0 Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.20 00:38:00 - [135] Edited by: Fred0 on 20/08/2006 00:40:38 Originally by: UnSiViLiZeD And from what i remember you didnt kick kaos or beagle out..... Diplomatic issues caused a packing of bags. There was absolutely zero diplomatic issues. I know because i orchestrated and planned it all. You got kicked out in one day after loosing your allies. You're known as the lousiest defender of a region ever. You mustered two fleets over 3 days and then it was over. And over would include your macrominers convoing us to switch boat. Oh and Turiya, look up Ernest on your own killboard before you try and have a go at him
General Furyan Legion Du Lys Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2006.08.20 00:41:00 - [136] Originally by: Liet Traep Edited by: Liet Traep on 19/08/2006 22:10:21 So perhaps less posting on the subject and more fighting would remove the temptation for one side to start smacking the other. We've kept it clean so far. Let's keep it in game and make the congratulatory posts after it's all over one way or another. And please don't take this as a slight to TCF. They've conducted themselves well and with true determination. I just think this post inadvertently exacerbated tensions unnecessarily. Agree with you, but we should find a way to post informations of the war on the eve-o forum were poeple involved agree the content of it. TCF didn't post often on forum, maybe once every 2-3 weeks not more than that. We try to be objective and put only fact. We success in local smack free fights, we might be successful in a eve-o forum smack free too.. For now, i think all parties involved are showing to eve community how is possible to fight with mutual respect. This is just an idea, but might be hard to achieve :-) - General Furyan
Turiya Flesharrower Beagle Corp	Posted - 2006.08.20 00:51:00 - [137] Originally by: Fred0 Edited by: Fred0 on 20/08/2006 00:40:38 There was absolutely zero diplomatic issues. I know because i orchestrated and planned it all. You got kicked out in one day after loosing your allies. You're known as the lousiest defender of a region ever. You mustered two fleets over 3 days and then it was over. And over would include your macrominers convoing us to switch boat. Oh and Turiya, look up Ernest on your own killboard before you try and have a go at him Riiight, had nothing to do with the fact that the system-holding corporation pulled their defensive POS out of S-EV just hours beforehand and that the alliance had already suffered heavy losses in the weeks of fighting down in Tribute and the war-dec from the MC. Add to that the fact that the executor corp kicked us and other key corporations from the alliance and you're looking at the real reason begind the fall of Tenal. Kaos was a terrible alliance, but you're painting them in worse colours than they deserved. You might also notice that the killboard has a shared database so it's actually pulling Ernest's stats from your own and every section. When I said that we profess our love for Ernest in local, I meant it in the literal sense; no-one is every actually doing anything in S-EV these days. In any case, this has gone so far off-topic that it's not even funny anymore. Good luck TCF, Beagle Corp members please refrain from posting in this or any related threads from this point. -----
Deva Blackfire DAB RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.20 01:17:00 - [138] Originally by: Turiya Flesharrower no-one is every actually doing anything in S-EV these days. Pretty good - means except for alts the rest of carebears actually moved to D7 :) And yep - Tenal was pretty silent for a while (ok... almost 2 months now) because of XZH and now D7. When we end this i can assure you - i will gladly fight against any roaming parties myself (as soon as i sort out my RL problems too thou). Atm EVE is only an expensive IRC ;p
DaveyE Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.08.20 01:50:00 - [139] LAG FTW
TWD TAOSP	Posted - 2006.08.20 02:01:00 - [140] Who is this top killer on the TCF killboard ?
Nahual Gallente Fate. Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.08.20 02:22:00 - [141] Originally by: TWD Who is this top killer on the TCF killboard ? The only one who can really shot in all the lag glares @ CCP It would be a fun fight - shame about the inability to play something which CCP intended to be used,as D7-ZAC has a limited supply of moons. Ah well, kudos to TCF, good home robbery plan but it's not over yet. ----------------------------------------------- FateCorp
FubarSF Caldari Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.08.20 02:36:00 - [142] Originally by: TWD Who is this top killer on the TCF killboard ? I belive it's one of many POS's
Roule Beagle Corp	Posted - 2006.08.20 02:36:00 - [143] Originally by: Lorth Can someone explain to me why the last 2 pages have been fileld with a lot of smack from Beagle Corp? And as an honest suggestion to you guys (Beagle Corp) judging from your posts, you really don't have an idea what a POS war is like in a situation like this. You may have killed a couple in your time, but its pretty evident the you havn't been in a war like this. D¦ have, and LV have as well, talk to them since your posts are rather missinformed. Was In the Old F-e/5/KAOS -vs- Iron/G/Razor Remember that when Beagle was part of KAOS, so each and everyone of us posting know what POS warfare is like, Probably the reason beagle aint joined another alliance. I personally was in F-E at the time and spent 6 weeks logging on to this POS warfare crap,and even though i wanted to leave coz i couldnt stand it, i still felt myself loggin on in the evening putting an x in F-E joint Ops warping to the rest of the gang and spending the evening in silence bored out of my brains, watching my PC melt under the pressure. Beagle was there when the invasion began and have tried to get there on several other occassions but we aint really keen on jumping a 30man gang into a juggernaut gate camp. So yes lorth we do know what we are talking about. This has been going on for a few weeks now....Tau Ceti are serverly out numbered but still hold the station. Reading this thread Tau are very Bouyent about the conflict,when ever i talk to any of them, they are proud to still be holding out even though they are overwhelmingly outnumbered at times, and killboards dont lie....Tau Ceti are well worth there buck in this fight, and i back em to come out on top P.S lorth this aint a D2 pos war, its a Morsus mihi from what i remember, or are D2 now taking it off them due to complete lack of defense for it? My Videos
Amerame Section XIII	Posted - 2006.08.20 02:46:00 - [144] Originally by: FubarSF Originally by: TWD Who is this top killer on the TCF killboard ? I belive it's one of many POS's It's all our PoSes kills, ie all kills from all our PoSes.
Lorth Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.08.20 03:49:00 - [145] Originally by: Roule Was In the Old F-e/5/KAOS -vs- Iron/G/Razor Remember that when Beagle was part of KAOS, so each and everyone of us posting know what POS warfare is like With all due respect, this is differant. POS warfare has evolved a lot in such a short time. Or maybe to say it better, the blob got bigger, the POS spamage got worse, and the lag hasn't changed. I was there as well, and in the goon invastion, for a while with a covert opps alt. Trust me, the goon POs war, and the FE POS war were two completly differant animals, and from what I have heard from my X-corp mates, the TFC war is very much the same. Untill you have experianced this at the same level as is happening right now, I don't think you can make any comments on who's pwning who. And if your experiance is the FE/5 campain, your not even close.
Emrod Amarr Legion Du Lys Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2006.08.20 04:01:00 - [146] Edited by: Emrod on 20/08/2006 04:00:57 Flamming....the weapon of the weak, the weapon of the fools...but sometimes we must answer to the arrogance of other people! Like i read here, the no smacking war in tribute begin to collapse and d2 and puppet dont very appreciated the fact thath we not dead yet...with the help of the Lag or not....anyways Come to d-7 and figth here plz not in forum...kill us all if you want, i dont care because i never stop to figth till I stop play this game and is not gonna be soon You want to crush us and force to disband , lets go and try! Tribute,Venal, Branch,Tenal....etc...the North its immense...and the possibility to make other Pos wars was infinit! The more we figth you and resist the more other alliance and corp will joing us to figth! All empire fall one day....the siege of D7 its just a battle...and only the beginning of a new war in the North! TCF, the first alliance in Eve online to win mysteriously all its battles by staying docking in NPC stations (;
Roule Beagle Corp	Posted - 2006.08.20 05:12:00 - [147] Originally by: Lorth Originally by: Roule Was In the Old F-e/5/KAOS -vs- Iron/G/Razor Remember that when Beagle was part of KAOS, so each and everyone of us posting know what POS warfare is like With all due respect, this is differant. POS warfare has evolved a lot in such a short time. Or maybe to say it better, the blob got bigger, the POS spamage got worse, and the lag hasn't changed. I was there as well, and in the goon invastion, for a while with a covert opps alt. Trust me, the goon POs war, and the FE POS war were two completly differant animals, and from what I have heard from my X-corp mates, the TFC war is very much the same. Untill you have experianced this at the same level as is happening right now, I don't think you can make any comments on who's pwning who. And if your experiance is the FE/5 campain, your not even close. Am sorry 400 people in d7- quite regularly and wait for it BEFORE server upgrades..... So yes it was a hell of alot worst back then, just go through the archives from march and april and you shall find many references to it My Videos
Lorth Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.08.20 05:23:00 - [148] Originally by: Roule Am sorry 400 people in d7- quite regularly and wait for it BEFORE server upgrades..... So yes it was a hell of alot worst back then, just go through the archives from march and april and you shall find many references to it No... There were 3 G/Iron POS's in the system, and only 5 hostile POS's in D7 during the fighting. I don't know how many there are right now, but in the goon campain I think the number was approaching 50. Further, we didn't fight our battles at the POS, ever, and the numbers were a lot closer to even then they are in this campain. I'm not saying the lag wasn't bad at times, I remember a number of battles that resulted in a node crash, and such. But the differance in that campain was, we weren't fighting out side a death star, that is not effected by lag at all. Which is why I'm saying that the Beagle members, and some others who are smacking, Razor/D2 and others for the dread losses, and fleet losses, are way way out to lunch. Its very reasonable to expect that with the current situation, and its not the fault of the attackers, and not the skill of the defenders that causes it. Take my word or not. But regional warfare is a completly differant ballgame then it was even 3 mounths ago. And you guys haven't stepped up to bat to know that yet.
Roule Beagle Corp	Posted - 2006.08.20 05:31:00 - [149] Edited by: Roule on 20/08/2006 05:35:00 They are fighting in the same god damm system ffs, so it is the same god damm thing Piccy gang of 350 in d7-zac local will never create the same lag in the same system as now right seen as the servers have been upgraded..... so does that now mean with server upgrades its more laggy now, or back then? think before you speak lorth, i have been there, have fought infront of a friendly and a hostile Battle Pos, or are they even more uberz now? Is there bigger guns out that makes these battle POS's more battler than before. BTW have you been upto D7-ZAC yet or have you not stepped upto the bat? Or does that mean been there in a covert ops? Hell of alot of fighting infront of death star POS's there lorth so you really know what POS warfare is about My Videos
Lorth Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.08.20 05:41:00 - [150] Originally by: Roule Edited by: Roule on 20/08/2006 05:35:00 They are fighting in the same god damm system ffs, so it is the same god damm thing Piccy gang of 350 in d7-zac local will never create the same lag in the same system as now right seen as the servers have been upgraded..... so does that now mean with server upgrades its more laggy now, or back then? think before you speak lorth, i have been there, have fought infront of a friendly and a hostile Battle Pos, or are they even more uberz now? Is there bigger guns out that makes these battle POS's more battler than before. BTW have you been upto D7-ZAC yet or have you not stepped upto the bat? Or does that mean been there in a covert ops? Hell of alot of fighting infront of death star POS's there lorth so you really know what POS warfare is about Please read what I have said, re-read it if you missed it. I was in lots of fights in D7 long ago, and not one of those occured in front of a POS (save for atuk sniping and leaving once in a while) The lag during the Goon war was worse then it was in D7, at least for me. And I susspect its the a simular situation now in D7. This is a differant situation because the fights are happening right in front of non-lagged POS deathstar guns. Take a guess at what happens to the side that is being shot by the guns. If you still missing the point then fine, I'm not going to be involved in a smack war over this.

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