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Joycalyn REUNI0N Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.23 21:24:00 - [31] It's time for Big expansion. Like the oregon trail right now with wagons full of POSes. Chowdown > you have died.. of dysentery... But seriously, anyone who is interested to jump on the RA bandwagon and get free pie* now is a good time (guilty as charged) Contact whoever the hell our diplomat is now...something like 1400mm II Have you recieved your smack immunization? Call 555-STFU
Ediz Daxx FinFleet Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.08.23 21:35:00 - [32] Dr. Evil: All right guard, begin the unnecessarily slow-moving dipping mechanism. [guard starts dipping mechanism] Dr. Evil: Close the tank! Scott Evil: Wait, aren't you even going to watch them? They could get away! Dr. Evil: No no no, I'm going to leave them alone and not actually witness them dying, I'm just gonna assume it all went to plan. What? Scott Evil: I have a gun, in my room, you give me five seconds, I'll get it, I'll come back down here, BOOM, I'll blow their brains out! Dr. Evil: Scott, you just don't get it, do ya? You don't.
Light Darkness Seraphin Technologies Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.08.23 21:57:00 - [33] Fact is: - The Game mechanics dont allowed us to fight this POS-War = boring and no results - RA did a good job to defend thier POSes = we learned much for our own systems - 10000 People against 800 isnt right. = You need only 1 or 2 paying People 1 hauler and 3 Carriers to hold completly systems - -V- is bored to fight this POS-War against RA. = this War goes over 1 1/2 years now We will have our fun. RA shows up last days and step on our wrong feet. We got some other thinks to do. GJ RA btw. Lets have some PvP fun again in the pipe. Regards /LD --------------------- -V-eritas Immortalis Killboard
Addicus Zed Ferinus Vis	Posted - 2006.08.23 21:58:00 - [34] From the looks of things, RA has been trying to regain their space back for some time now. And it's pretty impressive to see them slowly regain their foothold although being outnumbered like crazy. Don't think much alliance have such dedication like what RA have. Bare in mind, if something is allowed within the game mechanics of EVE...they're not lame, CCP would have removed them by now if itÆs against the mechanics. Lame is how you perceive it and not what can or cannot be done. If you can't beat it or don't like it, don't whine. Just move on and do something else which suites u better.
Ab Initio Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.08.23 21:59:00 - [35] Most impressive effort RA, respect. As for the coalition.. Just because RA are using tactics that exploit your weaknesses, does not make them 'cheap' strategies. Bringing 10:1 odds is cheap, fighting those 10:1 odds outside there peak hours is common sense.
Ab Initio Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.08.23 21:59:00 - [36] Edited by: Ab Initio on 23/08/2006 22:00:29 Grr, double post.
Rexthor Hammerfists Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.08.23 22:00:00 - [37] ra still being alive is a sad reflection of the current flawed game mechanics imo. - Purple Conquered The World, We the Universe.
Archonon Caldari Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2006.08.23 22:14:00 - [38] Originally by: Wrayeth As for cheap tactics, have you ever fought RA? No? Well, let me mention a few things. * Log on traps. * Warp core stabs (lots of them). * Leaving a cloaked covert in system while the pilot is AFK to prevent NPCers and miners from making ISK. I could mention quite a few more, but I can't be bothered to type out a long post today. U're really play in a carebear world. GJ RA ... see u soon again _______________________ Exitus Acta Probat
Wrayeth Omerta Syndicate	Posted - 2006.08.23 22:19:00 - [39] Originally by: Archonon U're really play in a carebear world. Aside from the fact that "u're" isn't a word, wtf are you talking about? -Wrayeth "Look, pa! I just contributed absolutely nothing to this thread!"
Omeega Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2006.08.23 22:28:00 - [40] Originally by: Wrayeth Originally by: Archonon U're really play in a carebear world. Aside from the fact that "u're" isn't a word, wtf are you talking about? Lol man. get your ideas straight. You ain't arguing on his grammar are you? Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
Amerame Section XIII	Posted - 2006.08.23 22:29:00 - [41] I'm not sure what LV and -V- are whining about, should an alliance that can mobilize 60 people 23/7 to defend their territory be destroyed by another who can bring 400 people 2 hours a day, 3 days a week ? Dedicated, smart and experienced players > sheer numbers ? Is that a proof of broken game mechanism ? No matter what the game mechanisms will be, I'm confident that RA players will always find a way to overcome the odds. I love how LV and -V- make it sounds like it's easy. Do you get up at 5am before going to work to save a PoS frequently for your alliance ? You might call them mad or whatever, but fact is that 1 RA player is not worth 1 player of another alliance, these guys are serious about fighting for their territory and I'm glad that blobbing a system once a month can not possibly be enough to fight players like those in RA.
Nebba Kenezzer Minmatar Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.08.23 22:33:00 - [42] Originally by: Joycalyn It's time for Big expansion. Now is a great time. Don't be bashful. Fleet engagements would be prime outside of station systems for a change. Nebba - The Vocal Majority
Wrayeth Omerta Syndicate	Posted - 2006.08.23 22:33:00 - [43] Originally by: Omeega Lol man. get your ideas straight. You ain't arguing on his grammar are you? I'm saying that, grammar aside, his post made no sense. I was talking about issues with cheap and lame tactics in PvP and he refers to living in a "carebear world". -shrugs- -Wrayeth "Look, pa! I just contributed absolutely nothing to this thread!"
Himo Amasacia Minmatar Elite United Corp Antigo Dominion	Posted - 2006.08.23 22:36:00 - [44] My memories of RA are one incident. I was in Free Space Alliance at the time and they were about to assault a 5 POS. I was too late to move with the main fleet and so I was flying in my Rupture totally alone through 0.0. 2 RA Apocs found me going through a gate. They, on their own initiative, started escorting me down. They never spoke a word to me, and I only realised what they were doing after a couple of jumps, but it was compleatly amasing that 2 guys in battleships could take time out to escort a fairly insignificant little cruiser from a friendly alliance though dangerous space. For that they have my eternal gratitude and respect. And it is great to see them fighting tooth and nail to claw back what is theirs. Good luck guys, and respect to all of you.
Murukan Minmatar The Priory	Posted - 2006.08.23 22:39:00 - [45] heh i was pretty spot on, only took 2 posts after mine for the smack to commense In rust we trust!!!
AKULA UrQuan Caldari Xelas Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.23 23:01:00 - [46] Simple fact. The coalition had roughly 10:1 advantage in manpower over RA. The way that was employed ended up being more of a liability than the assest it should have been. Originally by: Wrangler Win ME is more a some sort of virus than a OS..
Yazoul Samaiel Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.08.23 23:22:00 - [47] Originally by: Rexthor Hammerfists ra still being alive is a sad reflection of the current flawed game mechanics imo. My thoughs exactly , when 10000 players VS 800 and still they cant win due to game mechanics it just shows how it is flawd dont think there is any other game or RL situation that this huge contradiction can happen. On a side note POS wars in addition to lag will lead to a huge Queue of ppl quitign their alliances and corps , its already happening "What ever that doesn't Kill me just makes me stronger"
ashley mantis Deep Space Productions	Posted - 2006.08.23 23:29:00 - [48] Originally by: Wrayeth Originally by: ashley mantis cheap tactics? saying that while having more than 10:1 ratio at base numbers, that my friend is cheap tactics. what isnt cheap tactics is a vastly outnumbered alliance using game mechanics to fend off all you, while taking regions from you, thats not cheap, thats skill. That's not skill - anyone can do what RA's doing if they're strong during a timezone when their opponent is weak. That's the problem, and one of the (many) reasons POS warfare sucks. As for cheap tactics, have you ever fought RA? No? Well, let me mention a few things. * Log on traps. * Warp core stabs (lots of them). * Leaving a cloaked covert in system while the pilot is AFK to prevent NPCers and miners from making ISK. I could mention quite a few more, but I can't be bothered to type out a long post today. Not skill? define what skill is. Its ignorant to say skill is only measured by pure military might, the logistics that go into what RA is doing is immense. Its a chore to keep jst 1 pos running, let alone 100's of them while being 30 jumps from empire, surrounded on all sides by enemies, and being outnumbered 10:1. That is skill, though i guess, since you are all saying it isnt skill it would mean you guys jst have a lack there of. Now onto complaining about timezones. Did RA change thier timezones after you guys all invaded them? no, infact you all knew what timezones they are in before the war even started. Therefor you have no reason to complain about timezones, especially when they can say the same about you. Have i fought RA? funny how you assume i havent(goes to show how much truth goes into what wrayeth is saying, assumptions based on nothing), not only have i fought them, i have also flown alongside them. log on traps, not denying its cheap tactics, but im sure all 10000 of you guys arent angels either. wcs, do i really need to respond? theyre in the game, theyre meant to be used, deal with it or go play something else. cloaked ships, thats jst good smart tactics tbh.
Rai Ardose Caldari Itchy Trigger Finger Brothers	Posted - 2006.08.23 23:32:00 - [49] well i can tell you that keeping up 23/7 camps for a very long period of time is quite frustrating and boring, and imo nearly impossible.
Pehova Mindtriq Celestial Apocalypse	Posted - 2006.08.23 23:40:00 - [50] Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel Originally by: Rexthor Hammerfists ra still being alive is a sad reflection of the current flawed game mechanics imo. My thoughs exactly , when 10000 players VS 800 and still they cant win due to game mechanics it just shows how it is flawd dont think there is any other game or RL situation that this huge contradiction can happen. On a side note POS wars in addition to lag will lead to a huge Queue of ppl quitign their alliances and corps , its already happening I think the game mechanics would be flawed if numbers were the only thing that mattered in this game. Celes vs Xelas
Monarch Destructive Influence	Posted - 2006.08.23 23:40:00 - [51] Been there seen it first hand and it's lame. RA(t) are at the forefront of sploit discovery and impementation.
Yazoul Samaiel Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.08.23 23:45:00 - [52] Edited by: Yazoul Samaiel on 23/08/2006 23:46:28 Originally by: Pehova Mindtriq I think the game mechanics would be flawed if numbers were the only thing that mattered in this game. there is a difference between numbers and ratios , i am not talking about even odds or outnumbering , i am comparing a huge ratio which u can call overwhelming which is technicaly the huge number thats supposed to wipe out all odds if this huge number is still not able to beat the small opposing force then deffo the mechanics are borked its liek saying u cant beat one man with 100 dudes hammering him or a more closer one that one ship is able to tank 100 ships shootign it. Infinity is always greater than 1 . "What ever that doesn't Kill me just makes me stronger"
Yazoul Samaiel Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.08.23 23:47:00 - [53] Ration = Ratio , my bad and the damn edit feature doesnt work for soem odd reason "What ever that doesn't Kill me just makes me stronger"
Vily Lilium Venture Initiative	Posted - 2006.08.24 00:02:00 - [54] The interesting thing, i think, is that RA support is growing while coalition support continues to dwindle or become bored. I have no doubt that the coalition will find lots of new alliances to take up the role of the old ones, but RA in general is actually winning the hearts and minds of the people. They fight outnumbered, continually and they dont give up. And everyone has to respect that. I dont doubt that they have done their fair share of "exploiting" etc. but in general when your fighting a big bully, you do what it takes. RA is doing what it takes to survive. T The coalition wishes more than anything else to crush RA, but all that would mean would be internal strife and fighting within 2 months. RA will likely focus on continuing their hold of their current stronghold and maybe look to expand to one other system, but as long as the coalition continues to loom and press they will be hardpressed to do anything against them offensively. Listed as Such, I claim nothing but existense. know me true -Vily
Pehova Mindtriq Celestial Apocalypse	Posted - 2006.08.24 00:09:00 - [55] Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel Edited by: Yazoul Samaiel on 23/08/2006 23:46:28 Originally by: Pehova Mindtriq I think the game mechanics would be flawed if numbers were the only thing that mattered in this game. there is a difference between numbers and ratios , i am not talking about even odds or outnumbering , i am comparing a huge ratio which u can call overwhelming which is technicaly the huge number thats supposed to wipe out all odds if this huge number is still not able to beat the small opposing force then deffo the mechanics are borked its liek saying u cant beat one man with 100 dudes hammering him or a more closer one that one ship is able to tank 100 ships shootign it. Infinity is always greater than 1 . It doesn't matter if you change the word to ratio, my opinion is still the same. So many alliances have died because of the ratio they are up against. That shows that blobbing your enemy is supported by game mechanics. I think it's good that RA is surviving because that shows that game mechanics still gives the outnumbered faction a chance. Boosting your ratio shouldn't be a "I-win-button". Celes vs Xelas
Abye	Posted - 2006.08.24 00:09:00 - [56] Only Alliances supporting RA that don't have them in their neighbourhood
Himo Amasacia Minmatar Elite United Corp Antigo Dominion	Posted - 2006.08.24 00:11:00 - [57] Edited by: Himo Amasacia on 24/08/2006 00:13:36 If it all was up to numbers in real life then the Soviets would have crushed Germany In WW2 in less than a year not the 3 it took them. Same with the Russians in Aphganistan. Werew eventually driven out by a far smaller force it could not defeat. And of vourse there is the Pass of Thermopolie (the famous 300 Spartans incitent)
Omeega Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2006.08.24 00:22:00 - [58] it's like having 100 ronaldinho vs 1000 players of division 5 in switzerland (soccer?). Ronaldinho will win because he uses his top potential. (ok maybe not) Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
Yazoul Samaiel Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.08.24 00:26:00 - [59] Originally by: Himo Amasacia Edited by: Himo Amasacia on 24/08/2006 00:13:36 And of vourse there is the Pass of Thermopolie (the famous 300 Spartans incitent) They all died !!!! Phovea , i aint trying to change ur mind or ur point of view i am explaining mine , ur free to think what u like although i see that since u used to be in the 5 and fought RA , did u enjoy the time of POS wars or u werent there ? Every person who was in the 5 at that time hated that war coz all their combined effeorts were foiled by borked game mechanics. Anyway thats my point of view and i am soo not gonan go arguing more about this issue coz it would just get reduced to flames etc. "What ever that doesn't Kill me just makes me stronger"
HatePeace LoveWar Amarr FATAL REVELATIONS Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.08.24 00:27:00 - [60] <whitty smack comment>

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