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k1Lz Delta team Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.08.24 12:01:00 - [121] Originally by: Omeega Originally by: k1Lz For all suckers who think the coalition is week that RA is so uber why donÆt u join them maybe this way we gone have some targets and not only 3:1 engagements or ganking squads making kills on the noobs from belts. If u donÆt like RA pls step inside alone lets make a tango i`m sure u guys like to dance. OMG, the "COME WE ARE UBER I SWEAR TO GOD WE WON'T RUN!!1111" Card. I think that for some one who made the last kill all most 2 moths ago (and from the beginning of the year a total of 4 confirm kills) u should STFU, and let speech those from u`r corp who realy know what PVP is, or u are just the forum alt of a uber RAT pvper.
Lord Wimbishi Caldari Wolven Elite Guard Ghosts of Retribution	Posted - 2006.08.24 12:24:00 - [122] Originally by: Audrea 1) When the US fought the war in Korea and lost it - you had a superpower fighting SMALL, badly funded country - and they lost!! granted, they had support of their competitors (USSR), but still inferior organization, technology etc. Only thing they had plenty of is determination - thats something the coalition doesnt have. Any questions? Well you are wrong. That conflict was not lost for one. Two the North Koreans were getting stomped cleanly. The Chinese launched 250,000 men across the north part of Korea and almost annhilated the american forces in the surprise attack around Christmas and drove them back to the corner of South Korea and which were later was pushed back yet again back up to the DMZ where a unconditional cease fire has been held till this day. It has very little to do with North Koreans defending their turf as it was 'big brother' who didn't like how close we was getting to annhilating 'little brother' and getting close to their border. Get your facts straight. "Protecting the Ignorant from the immoral scum of the galaxy"
Basilii Minmatar Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2006.08.24 12:26:00 - [123] http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=335629 k1lz i think you are the one who need to stfu. the guy got more kills then you in his eve carier then you would ever do .
Wrok Caldari Omerta Syndicate	Posted - 2006.08.24 12:30:00 - [124] Originally by: Evengard Edited by: Evengard on 23/08/2006 21:28:13 Originally by: Dust Angel Well, considering that most russians are about to get iced in, and everyone else is going back to school/work, the winter expansion of RA is inevitable. Here you got very very wrong. Summer is vacation time and rest. Girls, sea, beer. Bad weather getting us closer to monitors... and killing... And as for other forum whiners, is you don't like the way we fight leave there regions for more safe Empire space. 0.0 are not for you. At least here. South alway be a war zone. As my friend here said 0.0 is not for many alliences...and hes right but then again it all comes down to applying your self and well tbh the REDS have done a great job doing this sooo...hate to say it but much respect to the reds for out witting and outlastting your 10,000 pilot counter part ;P
Lord Wimbishi Caldari Wolven Elite Guard Ghosts of Retribution	Posted - 2006.08.24 12:49:00 - [125] Originally by: Komolov Edited by: Komolov on 24/08/2006 08:31:45 Excellent post lazyb. Only wrong assumption here - RA ppl stopped raising iskies in 0.0 after loosing stations. They didn't. Zanarkand we had 1600 members and a lot of friendly miners. Miners ran wherever they can mine or turned into hardcore pvp and joined RA (good portion of Reunion were miners in Scalding Pass), French wing went up north and English wing slowly left because of many issues (lack of coordination, lack of fun for them, wish to join stronger party). So we have 800 members left and it is better for alliance to have lower numbers who want to fight and to win than to have 2000+ whiners. Well I have to agree with Komolov here. A trimmed and stronger frame is more likely to achieve more then a bloated excessive one. RA has trimmed down much like some older alliances have and for good reason to. So yes they did 'evol' in a bit which has helped. The main issue and topic is RA is surviving, no matter how it is happening. Any alliance would just be glad to survive no matter how it happens. It is only natural. If the strong instinct in wanting to survive and the willpower put behind it to succeed only boasts RA fighters deterimination at this point. Doggied opponents can be found anywhere who will do anything to succeed or survive. I am sure if the situations was reversed in manner regards as it was long ago; a smaller very determined and experianced organization can stand standfast against a larger one. LV's and friends initial resistance to RA's aggression in the very first place formalutes this very thing in my mind. As far as game play mechanics go, things will change in time I am sure as most of the vets in the game have seen in this game so far, countless nerfs, changes and ever evolving mechanics changed one way or another to make the game more enjoyable for EVERYONE even if it does nerf something very well liked by the veteran community. The war will continue most likely and give area to test newbs and grow new experiances for those that are wishing for a challenge. At this time the challenging people to fight here in the south east are RA since they are experianced at what they do. I am sure the Coalition and many other older alliances have their 'true' veteran cores but all to often those cores get diluted with new personnel but inexperianced to the game play the veterans are use to or simply uninterested in how things go one due to the political situations that constantly arise in 0.0 space. Anyways for better or worse this is the world of EVE as we know it for now, I am confident it will continue to evolve and change and we ALL have got to adapt to it no matter if we like it or not. RA and others like them show the propensity to adapt to these changes very quickly in order to keep the edge. That is only smart as a dead man is still a dead man no matter if the dude that killed him shot him in the back while he was sleeping. He can't complain anymore :/. "Protecting the Ignorant from the immoral scum of the galaxy"
FireFoxx80 Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2006.08.24 12:57:00 - [126] Before this gets locked for trolling: I imagine RA are simply waiting for the 8 new regions to open. Putting an outpost in the furthest-right region would be a bonus, as the entire region currently has one entry point. They'll be out there all alone, able to NPC and Mine their little hearts out. What I do the rest of the time.
dabster Minmatar Celestial Apocalypse	Posted - 2006.08.24 13:14:00 - [127] This thread pwns, RA ftw. ___________________________ Brutors Rule! My Eve-vids; Click.
PhannJodoxis Minmatar H.Y.D.R.A.	Posted - 2006.08.24 13:27:00 - [128] Originally by: Vily The interesting thing, i think, is that RA support is growing while coalition support continues to dwindle or become bored. I have no doubt that the coalition will find lots of new alliances to take up the role of the old ones, but RA in general is actually winning the hearts and minds of the people. They fight outnumbered, continually and they dont give up. And everyone has to respect that. I dont doubt that they have done their fair share of "exploiting" etc. but in general when your fighting a big bully, you do what it takes. RA is doing what it takes to survive. T The coalition wishes more than anything else to crush RA, but all that would mean would be internal strife and fighting within 2 months. RA will likely focus on continuing their hold of their current stronghold and maybe look to expand to one other system, but as long as the coalition continues to loom and press they will be hardpressed to do anything against them offensively. Support for RA is definately growing. Lots of people are watching this and saying wow.. these RA guys are different. It doesnt matter how RA uses game mechanics to survive. What matters is the fact that they have a fairly decent sized core that does not quit, they are smart, more skilled and experienced in EVE warfare than most, and exceedingly determined. Anyone who has experience being part of an alliance (in my case SPARTA) that got into a war, things didnt look good after a short while, and 90% of the people lacked the will to really fight or wanted to jump ship to greener pastures or were willing to do anything just to go back to living in peace mining and ratting.. respects RA for what they have done. In most normal situations many people stay as long as they think they may still be on the winning side, but when it appears like a losing situation the alliance crumbles all that much faster because people run away from the fight in expanding numbers like falling dominos. Anyways, impressive RA ______________________________________________
Graalum Foundation Free Trade Coalition	Posted - 2006.08.24 13:30:00 - [129] Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel Originally by: Himo Amasacia Edited by: Himo Amasacia on 24/08/2006 00:13:36 And of vourse there is the Pass of Thermopolie (the famous 300 Spartans incitent) They all died !!!! Phovea , i aint trying to change ur mind or ur point of view i am explaining mine , ur free to think what u like although i see that since u used to be in the 5 and fought RA , did u enjoy the time of POS wars or u werent there ? Every person who was in the 5 at that time hated that war coz all their combined effeorts were foiled by borked game mechanics. Anyway thats my point of view and i am soo not gonan go arguing more about this issue coz it would just get reduced to flames etc. There were actually 3 survivors.
Omeega Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2006.08.24 13:30:00 - [130] Originally by: k1Lz Originally by: Omeega Originally by: k1Lz For all suckers who think the coalition is week that RA is so uber why donÆt u join them maybe this way we gone have some targets and not only 3:1 engagements or ganking squads making kills on the noobs from belts. If u donÆt like RA pls step inside alone lets make a tango i`m sure u guys like to dance. OMG, the "COME WE ARE UBER I SWEAR TO GOD WE WON'T RUN!!1111" Card. I think that for some one who made the last kill all most 2 moths ago (and from the beginning of the year a total of 4 confirm kills) u should STFU, and let speech those from u`r corp who realy know what PVP is, or u are just the forum alt of a uber RAT pvper. Lol. you are just plain stupid. I only fight a few times with omeega. We learnt to get some alt characters who tend to be less targeted in fleetbattles... Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
Darcuese Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.08.24 13:45:00 - [131] Edited by: Darcuese on 24/08/2006 13:46:39 Originally by: Omeega I only fight a few times with omeega. We learnt to get some alt characters who tend to be less targeted in fleetbattles... Only few brave idiots playing other way around.. /emote look him self in the mirror and cry But still, this character wasnt created only to hide and spam -------------------------------------------- Space available for advertising atm
Lord Wimbishi Caldari Wolven Elite Guard Ghosts of Retribution	Posted - 2006.08.24 13:52:00 - [132] Originally by: Graalum There were actually 3 survivors. No actually they all died http://www.geocities.com/the_temple_of_ares/300spartans.html http://www.usgennet.org/usa/topic/preservation/geo/europe/page9.htm "Protecting the Ignorant from the immoral scum of the galaxy"
Himo Amasacia Minmatar Elite United Corp Antigo Dominion	Posted - 2006.08.24 15:03:00 - [133] Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel Originally by: Himo Amasacia Edited by: Himo Amasacia on 24/08/2006 00:13:36 And of vourse there is the Pass of Thermopolie (the famous 300 Spartans incitent) They all died !!!! Well, yeah, they did, but they killed 3 to 30 times their number in Persians (depending on who you read) which is why its so celebrated. But yeah they did die. People almost forget that fact
Vashi Dokumentu The xDEATHx Squadron	Posted - 2006.08.24 15:27:00 - [134] To LazyB(1/-\TC\|-\|) heya m8, nice post, but some things is missing, and it doesnt matter cuz it`s ur way of view. Only 1 thing is matter i`m not RA, i`m WITH RA........ ;-))) we`ll see your arse in space
CrestoftheStars The Greater Goon	Posted - 2006.08.24 15:28:00 - [135] Originally by: Wrayeth My sarcasm detector just pinged. I'm not sure, but I think it might've been a false reading. You can never tell with that pesky thing. Alright, all snide remarks aside, "fun" and "challenging" don't have to be mutually exclusive. Yes, you should have to put forth effort to take and hold sovereignty, but you should be able to have fun while doing so. The present system does not support that, which is exactly why it's broken. Just be glad his post wasnt one of a 4-part series.
Dr CapitalShip Caldari Out Siders Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.08.24 16:04:00 - [136] Originally by: Himo Amasacia Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel Originally by: Himo Amasacia Edited by: Himo Amasacia on 24/08/2006 00:13:36 And of vourse there is the Pass of Thermopolie (the famous 300 Spartans incitent) They all died !!!! Well, yeah, they did, but they killed 3 to 30 times their number in Persians (depending on who you read) which is why its so celebrated. But yeah they did die. People almost forget that fact /me imagines the battle. 100,000 Persians line up ready to charge. For some reason, all 100,000 Persians are stuck on the battlefield, unable to move.... 300 Spartans fire a spear each then log off. They log back in again, copy 200 bookmarks each, dump them on the battlefield. 999,700 Persians line up...
Omeega Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2006.08.24 16:31:00 - [137] Hehe well now the new technics will be. aAa miner (?) : OMG! ASCN is camping HED-GP with 30 ships. aAa exploit center : "They won't engage if we jump they'll jump in keberz. (ALL LIES!!!111)" aAa exploit center : "Guys, blob Keberz with 100 fighters in shuttle please" aAa exploit center : "Get a cyno ready for HED-GP. Send the big guys" ASCN logoffski-word-spammer-commander : "Guys, jump into Keberz fast! Save your souls you fools!!!" Then comes the CCP magic CCP to random ASCN player "We apologise but your cant jump out of HED-GP right now, you've been placed #20 in jump queue, and WE DONT GIVE A **** ABOUT YOUR NEW HAC BIOTCH!" « Ignis Infernalis, RAT. miner. Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
lazyb22 M. Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.08.24 16:45:00 - [138] Originally by: Vashi Dokumentu To LazyB(1/-\TC\|-\|) heya m8, nice post, but some things is missing, and it doesnt matter cuz it`s ur way of view. Only 1 thing is matter i`m not RA, i`m WITH RA........ ;-))) we`ll see your arse in space Plz fill in the holes Vashi. :) but its always nice to see you in space. :) Lazyb22
lazyb22 M. Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.08.24 16:50:00 - [139] Originally by: Omeega We learnt to get some alt characters who tend to be less targeted in fleetbattles... I need to do that It really sucks to be priamry ALL THE TIME. Now I know how Warrages felt. Lazyb22
Mc Leech The xDEATHx Squadron	Posted - 2006.08.24 17:47:00 - [140] Originally by: lazyb22 Originally by: Vashi Dokumentu we`ll see your arse in space Plz fill in the holes Vashi. :) Lazyb22 They say love and hate go hand in hand but this is just wrong...
lazyb22 M. Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.08.24 17:49:00 - [141] Edited by: lazyb22 on 24/08/2006 17:49:47 Originally by: Mc Leech Originally by: lazyb22 Originally by: Vashi Dokumentu we`ll see your arse in space Plz fill in the holes Vashi. :) Lazyb22 They say love and hate go hand in hand but this is just wrong... ROFL I guess that does look bad!!! Now get your mind outta the gutter you and back on the battle field.
Yazoul Samaiel Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.08.24 18:24:00 - [142] Originally by: Erton U know ... no one of my corp members in ours town don't know english, And when i print this forum and translate it into russhian in our pub when drinking a beer .... my friends were laughting like crazy cows. but sometime later one of them said: Max: Alex it makes me angry. I said: Why ? MAx: cause they blame us that we are cheater... Andry: Well m8s let's go home and kill one of them. I said: come on ... let's drink some beer. MAx: Yeah Alex right....after 2 or 3 beer we'll be avalable to use game mechanics. The way ur trying to rub the issue in the face of ppl just shows how mature u r !! How old are u btw? the way u talk is just exactly the same as a 10 year old brat running around poking his nose infrotn of ppl to annoy them . PS: Ur post should be deleted also , no corp or allaince tag Mr wizard !!! "What ever that doesn't Kill me just makes me stronger"
Murukan Minmatar The Priory	Posted - 2006.08.24 18:44:00 - [143] Originally by: Wrayeth * Leaving a cloaked covert in system while the pilot is AFK to prevent NPCers and miners from making ISK. I could mention quite a few more, but I can't be bothered to type out a long post today. I would have to say though that this tactic is not cheap it's very smart as it prevents their enemies from making isk. What is lame is crying about not being able to npc without danger. If you want to npc go out from the pos and see if that pilot really is afk In rust we trust!!!
Trembler Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.24 19:09:00 - [144] Originally by: lazyb22 Edited by: lazyb22 on 24/08/2006 07:06:24 CHEERS GUYS-Heres to the battle that will never stop and respect to those in RA that have earned mine. U know who you are. I will drink to that.
Core Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.08.24 19:09:00 - [145] Problem with POS atm is the cost of it, its simply way too cheap A ultra large deathstar POS costs around 2billion with fuel around 100mil... thats pocket change compared to the amount of money needed for dreads to come and kill them.. a well fitted dread costs more than a entire POS..
Ilmonstre Minmatar 0utbreak	Posted - 2006.08.24 19:10:00 - [146] Originally by: Core Problem with POS atm is the cost of it, its simply way too cheap A ultra large deathstar POS costs around 2billion with fuel around 100mil... thats pocket change compared to the amount of money needed for dreads to come and kill them.. a well fitted dread costs more than a entire POS.. too true
Murukan Minmatar The Priory	Posted - 2006.08.24 19:22:00 - [147] Originally by: Dr CapitalShip Originally by: Himo Amasacia Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel Originally by: Himo Amasacia Edited by: Himo Amasacia on 24/08/2006 00:13:36 And of vourse there is the Pass of Thermopolie (the famous 300 Spartans incitent) They all died !!!! Well, yeah, they did, but they killed 3 to 30 times their number in Persians (depending on who you read) which is why its so celebrated. But yeah they did die. People almost forget that fact /me imagines the battle. 100,000 Persians line up ready to charge. For some reason, all 100,000 Persians are stuck on the battlefield, unable to move.... 300 Spartans fire a spear each then log off. They log back in again, copy 200 bookmarks each, dump them on the battlefield. 999,700 Persians line up... Well if the Persians are too stupid to realize their tactics aren't working and keep lining up for the spartans to kill more power to the spartans. And just cause you ascn boys get your asses whupped in every engagement against a competant opponent doesn't mean you have to be so sore about it In rust we trust!!!
Core Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.08.24 20:32:00 - [148] I dont understand why sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo many people think they are all "pro" at understanding the situation that is going on Until you face RA, you have no idea the level of ***ness they bring to the battlefield. I do not care what your opinion is unless you fight RA on a regular basis. and for you Murukan you 6 month old noob, why dont you stay out of threads that you have no idea whats going on besides reading other "forum warrior's" posts and go mine some omber OR post with your main
Darkrydar Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.08.24 21:10:00 - [149] Originally by: Core I dont understand why sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo many people think they are all "pro" at understanding the situation that is going on Until you face RA, you have no idea the level of ***ness they bring to the battlefield. I do not care what your opinion is unless you fight RA on a regular basis. and for you Murukan you 6 month old noob, why dont you stay out of threads that you have no idea whats going on besides reading other "forum warrior's" posts and go mine some omber OR post with your main I totaly agree with you. It's been 9+ months since I had to deal with them but I still remember how lame they play the game. Its funny how bandwagons work isnt it? Now all the RA bandwagoneers are out in force.
Mc Leech The xDEATHx Squadron	Posted - 2006.08.24 22:21:00 - [150] "Its funny how bandwagons work isnt it? Now all the RA bandwagoneers are out in force." Yes very funny, a guy leaves shinra for BOB than makes posts about how funny bandwagons are, uh the irony its simply hilarious.

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