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Major Stormer Caldari Demon Womb Xelas Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.23 18:30:00 - [1] After viewing the latest (wonderful) eve online alliances map, i see red alliance have taken back a region. what does this mean for the area itself? Clearly the efforts to remove red alliance is failing.....what are the latest reports from the battlefield? -------------------------- 0.01 ISK to the first mod that writes in my sig! :D
Murukan Minmatar The Priory	Posted - 2006.08.23 18:34:00 - [2] Your intentions are good but tbh this post is going to bring tons of smack from coalition about log off tactics and pos lag warfare. In rust we trust!!!
Ediz Daxx FinFleet Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.08.23 18:34:00 - [3] Coconuts!
Major Stormer Caldari Demon Womb Xelas Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.23 18:38:00 - [4] well i hope they stay out >.< i enjoy good talk about eve online warfare, and its nice to talk about a fight in which i have nothing to do with and can happly comment on :) -------------------------- 0.01 ISK to the first mod that writes in my sig! :D
Skrypt Gallente Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.08.23 19:08:00 - [5] RA =/ not fun. LV/Coalition = play for fun. EVE = game. Given this, we're owning everything + RA until game mechanics change. ___________
Wrayeth Omerta Syndicate	Posted - 2006.08.23 19:21:00 - [6] I left -V- because I was tired of POS warfare and RA's cheap tactics. This is not intended as smack - it's just my point of view on the matter. As one of the guys who participated in the siege of F2A with a dreadnought, I can tell you that dealing with spammed POS is mind-numbingly boring. It gets even worse when you can't KILL the POS because an RA hauler shows up the moment you start shooting it and resets the strontium level to come out of reinforced during a time when you have few capital pilots available. At that time, RA jumps in a bunch of carriers and boosts the POS shields back up to full and refuels it, and there's not a damned thing you can do about it because you don't have the forces during that timezone. POS-spam warfare = lame. -Wrayeth "Look, pa! I just contributed absolutely nothing to this thread!"
ZePequerio Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2006.08.23 19:25:00 - [7] Originally by: Skrypt LV/Coalition = play for fun. You're kidding right ? A coalition of more than 10 000 pilots against an alliance of 800 pilots and you dare to say that ? I don't see where is the fun ...But RA must have a lot of fun with all those targets they even took back cache. Keep it up RA that's impressive.
Wrayeth Omerta Syndicate	Posted - 2006.08.23 19:26:00 - [8] Originally by: ZePequerio Originally by: Skrypt LV/Coalition = play for fun. You're kidding right ? A coalition of more than 10 000 pilots against an alliance of 800 pilots and you dare to say that ? I don't see where is the fun ...But RA must have a lot of fun with all those targets they even took back cache. Keep it up RA that's impressive. Using cheap tactics is impressive how, again? -Wrayeth "Look, pa! I just contributed absolutely nothing to this thread!"
ashley mantis Deep Space Productions	Posted - 2006.08.23 19:32:00 - [9] Originally by: Wrayeth Originally by: ZePequerio Originally by: Skrypt LV/Coalition = play for fun. You're kidding right ? A coalition of more than 10 000 pilots against an alliance of 800 pilots and you dare to say that ? I don't see where is the fun ...But RA must have a lot of fun with all those targets they even took back cache. Keep it up RA that's impressive. Using cheap tactics is impressive how, again? cheap tactics? saying that while having more than 10:1 ratio at base numbers, that my friend is cheap tactics. what isnt cheap tactics is a vastly outnumbered alliance using game mechanics to fend off all you, while taking regions from you, thats not cheap, thats skill.
Kanae Minmatar Vogon Deconstruction Fleet Ratel Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.23 19:36:00 - [10] well timeing a strontium supply for a time that is good for your is cheap? well timeing your attack for when RA numbers are low is cheap? both sound tactical to me but thats just my 2 isk
Pehova Mindtriq Celestial Apocalypse	Posted - 2006.08.23 19:37:00 - [11] Originally by: Wrayeth It gets even worse when you can't KILL the POS because an RA hauler shows up the moment you start shooting it and resets the strontium level to come out of reinforced during a time when you have few capital pilots available. At that time, RA jumps in a bunch of carriers and boosts the POS shields back up to full and refuels it, and there's not a damned thing you can do about it because you don't have the forces during that timezone. POS-spam warfare = lame. They master the game mechanics that's for sure. If the devs change the game mechinics to favour the attackers RA will still find a way to survive because they have that dedication so many other alliances lack. Celes vs Xelas
Ediz Daxx FinFleet Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.08.23 19:39:00 - [12] Scott Evil: It's no hassle... Dr. Evil: Sh! Scott Evil: But... Dr. Evil: Sh! Scott Evil: I'm... Dr. Evil: Sh! Scott Evil: All I'm say... Dr. Evil: Sh! Scott Evil: There gonna get a... Dr. Evil: Sh! Scott Evil: I'm... Dr. Evil: Sh! Scott Evil: I'm just... Dr. Evil: Sh! Scott Evil: Would... Dr. Evil: Sh!... Knock-knock. Scott Evil: Who's there? Dr. Evil: Sh! Scott Evil: But... Dr. Evil: Let me tell you a little story about a man named Sh! Sh! even before you start. That was a pre-emptive "sh!" Now, I have a whole bag of "sh!" with your name on it.
Stormhold FinFleet Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.08.23 19:41:00 - [13] Originally by: Pehova Mindtriq Originally by: Wrayeth It gets even worse when you can't KILL the POS because an RA hauler shows up the moment you start shooting it and resets the strontium level to come out of reinforced during a time when you have few capital pilots available. At that time, RA jumps in a bunch of carriers and boosts the POS shields back up to full and refuels it, and there's not a damned thing you can do about it because you don't have the forces during that timezone. POS-spam warfare = lame. They master the game mechanics that's for sure. If the devs change the game mechinics to favour the attackers RA will still find a way to survive because they have that dedication so many other alliances lack. The system already supports attackers (as long as they get a couple of poses planted) since practically once you plant a pos you get to be a defender and defend it.
Wrayeth Omerta Syndicate	Posted - 2006.08.23 19:41:00 - [14] Originally by: ashley mantis cheap tactics? saying that while having more than 10:1 ratio at base numbers, that my friend is cheap tactics. what isnt cheap tactics is a vastly outnumbered alliance using game mechanics to fend off all you, while taking regions from you, thats not cheap, thats skill. That's not skill - anyone can do what RA's doing if they're strong during a timezone when their opponent is weak. That's the problem, and one of the (many) reasons POS warfare sucks. As for cheap tactics, have you ever fought RA? No? Well, let me mention a few things. * Log on traps. * Warp core stabs (lots of them). * Leaving a cloaked covert in system while the pilot is AFK to prevent NPCers and miners from making ISK. I could mention quite a few more, but I can't be bothered to type out a long post today. -Wrayeth "Look, pa! I just contributed absolutely nothing to this thread!"
Drilla Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.08.23 20:05:00 - [15] Originally by: ashley mantis Originally by: Wrayeth Originally by: ZePequerio Originally by: Skrypt LV/Coalition = play for fun. You're kidding right ? A coalition of more than 10 000 pilots against an alliance of 800 pilots and you dare to say that ? I don't see where is the fun ...But RA must have a lot of fun with all those targets they even took back cache. Keep it up RA that's impressive. Using cheap tactics is impressive how, again? cheap tactics? saying that while having more than 10:1 ratio at base numbers, that my friend is cheap tactics. what isnt cheap tactics is a vastly outnumbered alliance using game mechanics to fend off all you, while taking regions from you, thats not cheap, thats skill. See, that's how b0rked the gamemechanics are atm. when 10:1 cant do anything. Seek not to bar my way, for I shall win through - no matter the cost!
Omeega Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2006.08.23 20:06:00 - [16] Originally by: Wrayeth have you ever fought RA? No? Well, let me mention a few things. * Log on traps. * Warp core stabs (lots of them). * Leaving a cloaked covert in system while the pilot is AFK to prevent NPCers and miners from making ISK. LOL!!! Logon traps. petition it. WarpCoreStabs? against an enemy 10:1 i'd fit 8wcs if I could. Just to make you cry like a little baby on those forums. Omg the covert trick - omg lol it just makes me laugh - you are just not good enough to fight RA-like alliance... Now please, give me the insert_multiple_whine_here TIMEZONES. A free tip for you (not personaly): Don't call yourself an alliance or anything close if a 800 angry people alliance fight until death with their teeth and let you every evening from 10pm (aprox for you)[that's when you should have the max people] alone in all their home systems. Please, get organised. I heard a guy say : at the exact same time 800 alarm-clocks ring all over the world. If you ain't ready to do that, then you ain't ready to kill the mighty Red Alliance. Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
Omeega Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2006.08.23 20:07:00 - [17] ola drilla. o7 ♥ Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
Kuang V I R I I Center for Disease Creation	Posted - 2006.08.23 20:08:00 - [18] Pehova Mindtriq said it right ... RA has the determination to do what it takes and adjust there fighting style with the changes of the game IMO they are the worst alliance in the game to attack ... they don't know the word quit CDC Forums
DirtyHarry Caldari Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.08.23 20:09:00 - [19] I'm no fan of RA however I am impressed at how they are holding out against such odds. RA got this Havocide - DirtyHarry
Riley Craven Caldari Black Eclipse Corp	Posted - 2006.08.23 20:12:00 - [20] Originally by: Wrayeth I left -V- because I was tired of POS warfare and RA's cheap tactics. This is not intended as smack - it's just my point of view on the matter. As one of the guys who participated in the siege of F2A with a dreadnought, I can tell you that dealing with spammed POS is mind-numbingly boring. It gets even worse when you can't KILL the POS because an RA hauler shows up the moment you start shooting it and resets the strontium level to come out of reinforced during a time when you have few capital pilots available. At that time, RA jumps in a bunch of carriers and boosts the POS shields back up to full and refuels it, and there's not a damned thing you can do about it because you don't have the forces during that timezone. POS-spam warfare = lame. Wrayeth, on many occasions I have respected what you have had to say. However, on this issue I think you are flat wrong. Haulers putting in levels to a time when they are strongest is not lame, especially trying to fend off the numbers you guys are throwing at them. Secondly even if they were the stronger party its still not lame because its their space and they have a right to defend it. While POS warefare is insanely boring, I dont think its fair of you or anyone else to call Red lame just because you cant kill them and are frustrated by the system. I will say that using lots ot stabs on combat ships is lame, and ccp seems to think so as well with some changes I have seen them want to implement. Log on tactics, well lets just say if you can think of a way to enable an ambush that is acceptable to everyone then you can comment on whether this is a cheat or not. And as far as keeping a covert op cloaked in a system to prevent you from using it is not lame, its just smart. Again maybe not skillfull, you have no right to call them lame just because you are frustrated.
zincol S.A.S	Posted - 2006.08.23 20:16:00 - [21] Impressive how RA kept themselfs motivated for so long,very tight strong alliance or even friends. Nice work RA.
Krychton Amarr Blood Inquisition	Posted - 2006.08.23 20:18:00 - [22] Considering the odds stacked against them, I don't blame them for using such tactics. I'm rather impressed that they can hold against such overwhelming odds. ----
Renu Occassus Republica Process of Elimination	Posted - 2006.08.23 20:18:00 - [23] do RA really have more posts about them then BoB has ? BTW Kudos to RA for everything that they have done ... I¦ve been in a couple of the coalition fleets .. and Coalition talks about RA never fighting outnumbered .. I remember when RA was blobbed 5 to 1 .. (around 500 to 100) and they still came in fought .. killed more then they lost .. warped out .. killed a freighter filled with POS towers costing KOS alot of isk ... GJ Max sig image dimensions are 400w x 120h & 24,000 byte file size. --Jorauk
Dust Angel True Core	Posted - 2006.08.23 20:22:00 - [24] Well, considering that most russians are about to get iced in, and everyone else is going back to school/work, the winter expansion of RA is inevitable. _____________________________________ Stressed out with empire politics? Sansha's Nation helps clear your mind.
Akira Kaneshiro Caldari Associated Press	Posted - 2006.08.23 20:43:00 - [25] Originally by: Wrayeth whining stuff read my sig ---- sig of truth ---- Stop whining. Deal with it or quit the game.
Komolov Gallente REUNI0N Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.23 20:44:00 - [26] Originally by: Renu I remember when RA was blobbed 5 to 1 .. (around 500 to 100) and they still came in fought .. killed more then they lost .. warped out .. killed a freighter filled with POS towers costing KOS alot of isk ... Hehe I remember that day. LV guys tried to convince us freighter was empty This evening was kinda my personal record. During whole evening i was jumping on gate with 200+ hostile pilots on it. Scored 6 solo killmails BTW for those who whinning about lags during C-J siege. Lags in JLO were much worse. --------------------
Double G Caldari CRICE Corporation	Posted - 2006.08.23 20:54:00 - [27] Originally by: Wrayeth Originally by: ashley mantis cheap tactics? saying that while having more than 10:1 ratio at base numbers, that my friend is cheap tactics. what isnt cheap tactics is a vastly outnumbered alliance using game mechanics to fend off all you, while taking regions from you, thats not cheap, thats skill. That's not skill - anyone can do what RA's doing if they're strong during a timezone when their opponent is weak. That's the problem, and one of the (many) reasons POS warfare sucks. As for cheap tactics, have you ever fought RA? No? Well, let me mention a few things. * Log on traps. * Warp core stabs (lots of them). * Leaving a cloaked covert in system while the pilot is AFK to prevent NPCers and miners from making ISK. I could mention quite a few more, but I can't be bothered to type out a long post today. Cry more?
Wrayeth Omerta Syndicate	Posted - 2006.08.23 20:58:00 - [28] Originally by: Double G Cry more? LOL, not my problem anymore. I've given up on alliances that have to deal with sovereignty until they make it FUN. Right now it's mind-numbingly boring and can also be ridiculously frustrating. I'm paying CCP to provide an enjoyable pasttime, and POS-spam warfare isn't enjoyable in the least. For now, I'm just going to shoot other players and have fun doing it. -Wrayeth "Look, pa! I just contributed absolutely nothing to this thread!"
Double G Caldari CRICE Corporation	Posted - 2006.08.23 21:01:00 - [29] POS wars 4tl.
Evengard Solar Dragons Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.23 21:04:00 - [30] Edited by: Evengard on 23/08/2006 21:28:13 Originally by: Dust Angel Well, considering that most russians are about to get iced in, and everyone else is going back to school/work, the winter expansion of RA is inevitable. Here you got very very wrong. Summer is vacation time and rest. Girls, sea, beer. Bad weather getting us closer to monitors... and killing... And as for other forum whiners, is you don't like the way we fight leave there regions for more safe Empire space. 0.0 are not for you. At least here. South alway be a war zone. ___________________ Recon and Intercept

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