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Hilti Enaka
State War Academy
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.11.03 00:48:27 -
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Would appreciate some advice on how to avoid this from happening. cheers |
Kaarous Aldurald
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
10464
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Posted - 2014.11.03 00:50:38 -
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Be at your keyboard, and don't autopilot.
And don't be carrying enough cargo to be worth ganking.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
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Hilti Enaka
State War Academy
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.11.03 00:57:48 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
And don't be carrying enough cargo to be worth ganking.
Not sure the likes of CODE, Bat Country, Never Ignorant Gettin' Goals Accomplished care if there is value or not. |
Kaarous Aldurald
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
10465
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Posted - 2014.11.03 00:59:51 -
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Hilti Enaka wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
And don't be carrying enough cargo to be worth ganking.
Not sure the likes of CODE, Bat Country, Never Ignorant Gettin' Goals Accomplished care if there is value or not.
That's what the first two are for.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
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Hilti Enaka
State War Academy
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.11.03 01:00:57 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Hilti Enaka wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
And don't be carrying enough cargo to be worth ganking.
Not sure the likes of CODE, Bat Country, Never Ignorant Gettin' Goals Accomplished care if there is value or not. That's what the first two are for.
I think you'll find even being at your keyboard and not AP doesn't stop them from bumping a freighter well off gate to be ganked. |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
7015
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Posted - 2014.11.03 01:02:52 -
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Don't be seen
Gÿ+
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'.
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Agatir Solenth
Servants of the Throne Worlds
29
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Posted - 2014.11.03 01:03:58 -
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Hilti Enaka wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
And don't be carrying enough cargo to be worth ganking.
Not sure the likes of CODE, Bat Country, Never Ignorant Gettin' Goals Accomplished care if there is value or not.
Then don't operate in the systems they camp/frequent. Set their (any ganking group) corp/alliance standings so you can see them in local.
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Lord LazyGhost
The Bastards
The Bastards.
451
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Posted - 2014.11.03 01:05:47 -
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Don't undock problem solved
The Bastards
Diplomatic Director
http://www.the-bastards.net/
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Kaarous Aldurald
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
10465
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Posted - 2014.11.03 01:06:15 -
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Hilti Enaka wrote:
I think you'll find even being at your keyboard and not AP doesn't stop them from bumping a freighter well off gate to be ganked.
I run freighters through Uedama and Niarja at least twice a week.
My freighter alt has never once been suicide ganked.
I think you'll find that some semblance of basic competency is sufficient to keep you perfectly safe in highsec.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
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Hilti Enaka
State War Academy
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.11.03 01:13:18 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Hilti Enaka wrote:
I think you'll find even being at your keyboard and not AP doesn't stop them from bumping a freighter well off gate to be ganked.
I run freighters through Uedama and Niarja at least twice a week. My freighter alt has never once been suicide ganked. I think you'll find that some semblance of basic competency is sufficient to keep you perfectly safe in highsec.
Me too but my gank was a log on trap so, its got nothing to do with competence. |
Kaarous Aldurald
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
10465
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Posted - 2014.11.03 01:15:35 -
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Hilti Enaka wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Hilti Enaka wrote:
I think you'll find even being at your keyboard and not AP doesn't stop them from bumping a freighter well off gate to be ganked.
I run freighters through Uedama and Niarja at least twice a week. My freighter alt has never once been suicide ganked. I think you'll find that some semblance of basic competency is sufficient to keep you perfectly safe in highsec. Me too but my gank was a log on trap so, its got nothing to do with competence.
You got bumped... in a log on trap?
I still fail to see how this could not have been solved by double webbing.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
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Hilti Enaka
State War Academy
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.11.03 01:18:31 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Hilti Enaka wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Hilti Enaka wrote:
I think you'll find even being at your keyboard and not AP doesn't stop them from bumping a freighter well off gate to be ganked.
I run freighters through Uedama and Niarja at least twice a week. My freighter alt has never once been suicide ganked. I think you'll find that some semblance of basic competency is sufficient to keep you perfectly safe in highsec. Me too but my gank was a log on trap so, its got nothing to do with competence. You got bumped... in a log on trap? I still fail to see how this could not have been solved by double webbing.
Because webby got ganked as well. |
Kaarous Aldurald
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
10465
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Posted - 2014.11.03 01:19:06 -
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Hilti Enaka wrote:
Because webby got ganked as well.
Ha, bullshit. You're just scrambling to justify your complaining now.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
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Hilti Enaka
State War Academy
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.11.03 01:19:52 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Hilti Enaka wrote:
Because webby got ganked as well.
Ha, bullshit. You're just scrambling to justify your complaining now.
No really it got ganked. |
Kaarous Aldurald
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
10465
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Posted - 2014.11.03 01:22:21 -
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Hilti Enaka wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Hilti Enaka wrote:
Because webby got ganked as well.
Ha, bullshit. You're just scrambling to justify your complaining now. No really it got ganked.
In a log on trap. Riiiight... 
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
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Hilti Enaka
State War Academy
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.11.03 01:25:33 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Hilti Enaka wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Hilti Enaka wrote:
Because webby got ganked as well.
Ha, bullshit. You're just scrambling to justify your complaining now. No really it got ganked. In a log on trap. Riiiight...
Its pretty easy to explain webby ship was alphaed, freighter was then locked and also aggroed to prevent safe log off mach arrived bumps it of alignment and there we go. its not rocket science. |
Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
6363
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Posted - 2014.11.03 01:27:57 -
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http://evedarklord.blogspot.ca/2014/07/counter-ganking.html
"I'm also quite confident that you are laughing
and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers."
=]I[=
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Hilti Enaka
State War Academy
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.11.03 01:53:20 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:http://evedarklord.blogspot.ca/2014/07/counter-ganking.html
Thanks Ralph Before anyone starts to ***** and moan at me because I have ganking tiers Eve has always been a fond game of mine and it is because of the dark side i am drawn to continnue to play, I have no emotional connection to any loss I incur. That being said I still want my stuff to be safe so I can play the main path of my game which is pvp-ing.
A few comments against the tips.
Tip 1 - Tank your Hauler/Industrial/Mining ship - i guess this is reinforced bulkheads in freighters and JFs? Not sure what happens when gankers bring more alpha but I can go with this,
Tip 2 - Add known 'bad guys' to your contacts & join an 'anti-ganking' chat channel - doesnt prevent alts from popping up or in my case from loggin on,
Tip 3 - Don't AFK mine (Autopilot) - never do, always used webby and 1 hour of my time moving things around
Tip 4 - Limit ship & cargo value to below 1b ISK - disagree, ganking freighters has become a tradition now and they are being popped just for the hell of it. Limiting cargo, double wrapping it or what ever else isn't preventing this.
Tip 5 - Choose travel through only the highest security status systems - Not sure you can avoid choke systems.
Tip 6 - Never autopilot - See tip 3.
Tip 7 - Never travel unscouted - See tip 2
Tip 8 - Use a web buddy for insta-align & warp - Freighter still has to warp and of course webby can still be popped.
Tip 10 - Use a Jump Freighter to haul w/ a cyno alt on standby - This is the only one I didnt have a response too and I feel that this could be my only way from now on. |
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
Late Night Alliance
6462
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Posted - 2014.11.03 02:13:04 -
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Here's two you missed;
- Be less attractive of a target compared to the "other guy."
If you are flying in space and are the only target available... you ARE the "other guy" and have failed be less attractive of a target (because you are the only one).
- **** happens. You can follow all the tips/rules/guidelines/tricks you want... none of them guarantee your safety 100% of the time. Even gankers are not always 100% successful (and if believe they are, it means you have never tried ganking yourself).
Change isn't bad, but it isn't always good. Sometimes, the oldest and most simple of things can be the most elegant and effective.
"How did you veterans start?"
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Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
233
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Posted - 2014.11.03 02:16:12 -
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Just outsource hauling...it really isn't worth doing yourself as a solo player. |
Rowells
Unknown Soldiers
Fidelas Constans
1595
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Posted - 2014.11.03 02:38:31 -
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Keep in mind, nothing can make you 100% gank proof. Just truce chances of a successful one.
If a person (or people) really want to ruin your day there's not much you can do to stop them entirely. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
5608
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Posted - 2014.11.03 03:18:56 -
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Hilti Enaka wrote:Would appreciate some advice on how to avoid this from happening. cheers
Play something else?
Just saying.
Bring back DEEEEP Space!
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Ilithyia Borgia
The Conference Elite
CODE.
5
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Posted - 2014.11.03 03:19:11 -
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Hilti Enaka wrote:Would appreciate some advice on how to avoid this from happening. cheers .
Step 1: Buy a permit
Step 2: Follow the New Halaima Code of Conduct
www.minerbumping.com
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Lament von Gankenheim
The Conference Elite
CODE.
1
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Posted - 2014.11.03 03:22:58 -
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Ilithyia Borgia wrote:Hilti Enaka wrote:Would appreciate some advice on how to avoid this from happening. cheers . Step 1: Buy a permit Step 2: Follow the New Halaima Code of Conduct www.minerbumping.com
Best answer, Only answer. This topic may now be closed. |
Kaely Tanniss
New Order Defense Initiative
58
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Posted - 2014.11.03 03:23:37 -
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Ilithyia Borgia wrote:Hilti Enaka wrote:Would appreciate some advice on how to avoid this from happening. cheers . Step 1: Buy a permit Step 2: Follow the New Halaima Code of Conduct www.minerbumping.com
Best tank you can fit...and it doesn't even take a slot on your ship :)
If I had a nickel for every time someone said women don't play eve, I'd have a bag of nickels to whack the next person who said it..
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Chopper Rollins
Lantean Empire
977
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Posted - 2014.11.03 04:45:25 -
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Get out of highsec.
Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good.
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baltec1
Bat Country
Goonswarm Federation
13745
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Posted - 2014.11.03 06:45:10 -
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I only see an Ibis on your losses.
Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship
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Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders
Spaceship Bebop
1995
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Posted - 2014.11.03 07:53:06 -
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Regarding hauling:
Small stuff (10,000 m3 or so) --> Blockade runner
Medium stuff (60,000 m3 or so) --> Deep Space Transport, super stabbed for lowsec, super tanked for highsec
Big stuff --> In Highsec, Red Frog. In lowsec, Jump Freighter. For the highsec jumps of the JF, use bulkeads and always stay in 0.8 and above. If I'm not mistaken, it's extremely difficult to suicide gank a triple bulkhead JF in 0.8 and above. Plus, as suggested, have an emergency cyno ready to jump out when you're not pointed.
Make space glamorous!
Is EVE dying or not? Ask the EVE-O Death-o-meter!
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
21400
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Posted - 2014.11.03 07:59:26 -
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Veers Belvar wrote:Just outsource hauling That's the only sensible post I've seen from you.
"Remember, as a non-combatant, your best tank is being elsewhere." ~ Abrazzar
Nil mortifi sine lucre.
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Primary This Rifter
4S Corporation
Goonswarm Federation
144
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Posted - 2014.11.03 08:06:55 -
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Chopper Rollins wrote:Get out of highsec.
I was going to say there's no such thing as suicide ganking outside of highsec, but then I remembered how we once killed an enemy Naglfar minutes before downtime in ABCs knowing their frigate fleet was going to warp in on us and tear us to shreds.
Alt of [redacted on advice from a reputable internet spaceships lawyer]
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