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Grand Master Horm	Posted - 2006.08.26 06:45:00 - [1] As many will remember the Order of St. Tetrimon had condemned the actions of the Versium Family some time ago. My charges in this matter continue to remain in effect. Recently Revan approached me wishing to know how she could work to redeem herself before the Order of St. Tetrimon. I was very surprised to hear this and I set aside some time to think upon it. The very spirit of the reclaiming rests upon the simple precept that through repentance and service, one can be forgiven their sins. Therefore when one seeks redemption from the pits of heresy we must consider what must be done for the damage to be undone. Everyone sets their own price of redemption, and the price may sometimes be too much to pay. I contacted Revan again and gave her five conditions which she must meet in order to obtain a full pardon of these charges from the Order of St. Tetrimon. These are the conditions she was given: Cease and desist all wars and hostilities with corporations loyal to the Amarr Empire. You will have to renounce your ties to the Vesium Family and Dark Sereph. Should others wish to follow you in a quest for redemption that is acceptable. They will also have to comply with these conditions if they want my support in the matter. Those names are forever tainted with the heresy they've wrought. In addition, while you deny having ties with the blood raiders or Sani Sabik I will still say that if you do you must renounce your ties with them. You will apologize, publicly, to every faithful corporation you've harmed. If you cannot admit you've done wrong by the faithful then you are not ready to serve with them again. There will be no compromise in this matter for the sake of personal pride. I explained that redemption involves sacrifice and in this case your sacrifice will be the one thing that led you to heresy to begin with, your pride. You must choose God before yourself, and I consider this condition the most important of any that I've listed. You will make damage reparations to those faithful corporations you've harmed. Part of redemption is undoing the damage you've done. You told me of your wealth, and now it is time for this wealth to be used to rebuild the assets of those whom it has been used to destroy. While your feelings are your own, you will not publicly or privately harbor ill will towards to those whom you've harmed. The first condition has been met. The second condition has been met. The third condition has not yet been met. The fourth condition she claims she is working on. I will be verifying the progress and completion of this condition with these organizations. The fifth condition has been met. These conditions will have to be met, and then upheld for a full pardon to take place. There is room for interpretation in these conditions but they are related to the charges that I have laid against Revan and they will be removed when I see that these conditions have been met. I will report the progress of this as I observe it.
Grand Master Horm	Posted - 2006.08.26 06:46:00 - [2] Some may say that Revan is unworthy of redemption. However redemption has happened to those that some would deem unworthy in the past. The actions committed, while servere, are nothing that cannot be undone. I consider the conditions above being met in full to be undoing most of the damage she's caused and therefore worthy of at least a Pardon on the charges of heresy. If she obtains it, I hope she will continue to walk the proper path that these conditions were meant to put her on. If she does not, then may God have mercy on her soul. Also, in a somewhat related issue: I have been notified by multiple sources of a plot that is taking place against the Order of St. Tetrimon and myself in particular. Revan herself was implicated in this plot and she did inform me that she plans to reject the offer of a place in this clear attempt to fracture the Order of St. Tetrimon. I cannot completely believe Revan on this. She was informed that she will be unable to serve the Order of St. Tetrimon even if a pardon should be granted. Also, precautions have been put in place, the person that plans to execute this plot and their co-conspirators are doomed to failure. The Scriptures, and their guardians will be protected. Grand Master Horm Order of St.Tetrimon
Revan Neferis Amarr Guiding Hand Social Club	Posted - 2006.08.26 07:09:00 - [3] Continuing with the requested demands; I hereby tender mu apologies to the innocent corporations who feels themselves injured during the wars. As reparations, I offer the following: 10k elite slaves who will serve as working force to repair damage caused. 1.5k Prisoners of wars will be retrived The Alliances / corporations who are interested to receive them, contact me personally with your official Diplomat. Furthermore. Regarding the agenda you refer I am not allowed to speak as yet. I'm not surprised that you have come to know that rumors sometimes are proven true. I will provide an answer to the specific parts involved when time proves right. Revan Neferis Verisum
Yoshito Sanders Amarr Ubiqua Seraph Aegis Militia	Posted - 2006.08.26 08:01:00 - [4] I am struggling to stiffle some major guffaws, Revan.
Gazon Amarr 1st Praetorian Guard Vigilia Valeria	Posted - 2006.08.26 10:57:00 - [5] I wonder, with all the twisting and lip services of the past, how anyone could ever trust and/or believe this woman... Now recruiting!
Discorporation Amarr Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.08.26 11:03:00 - [6] Revan Neferis Amarr Guiding Hand Social Club [chuckle]
Octavinus Augustus	Posted - 2006.08.26 11:07:00 - [7] Originally by: Revan Neferis I hereby tender mu apologies to the innocent corporations who feels themselves injured during the wars. I notice that you fail to name any names of corporations/alliances that are specifically included in this apology. I would personally like very much to hear who exactly comes under your definition of "innocent" in these matters. Does this apology include AM from whom you rebelled? Does it include CVA on whom you waged war? Does it include the corporation to which I belong, PIE? Could you please (at least for my convenience - and for the convenience of many others I guess) name those corporations your apology include by name?
Soratah Amarr Ubiqua Seraph Aegis Militia	Posted - 2006.08.26 11:09:00 - [8] Edited by: Soratah on 26/08/2006 11:11:22 Originally by: Revan Neferis Continuing with the requested demands; I hereby tender mu apologies to the innocent corporations who feels themselves injured during the wars. As reparations, I offer the following: 10k elite slaves who will serve as working force to repair damage caused. 1.5k Prisoners of wars will be retrived The Alliances / corporations who are interested to receive them, contact me personally with your official Diplomat. Furthermore. Regarding the agenda you refer I am not allowed to speak as yet. I'm not surprised that you have come to know that rumors sometimes are proven true. I will provide an answer to the specific parts involved when time proves right. What an insult to the integrity of those whom she fought against. You see Grand Master, you offer this snake clemenancy and she spits in your face for it. Slaves which the injured parties will have to pay to keep fed and sheltered in insignificant figures are an insult. A paltry "im sorry" and then evading the issue about what. What would be more appropriate: beg for forgiveness, name those whose charity you seek. I apologise to the families of those whom my misguided usurpation has murdered. I apologise for the assasination attempt on Bastables and pay to him the sum of 10m to cover the clone I had murdered. I apologise to Graelyn of Aeternus Crusade for injury caused in the pursuit of my personal vendetta against him. I apologise to Aegis Militia, PIE, CVA for wasting their time exorcising my taint from the Empire.Reperrations of at least one billion to each of those named above for their losses. That should start you off, but we wont be satisfied with that. Not until I have the keys to your estates so we can sanctify it with holy Amarrian fire. You yourself paraded in Amarr and lashed for each of your sins: Pride, vanity, lust chief among them. Although I would personally see to it that you're taken away to the houses of lamentation, beyond all darkness. There you flesh shall be flayed from your bones and your soul left naked to God's eye!
Golan Trevize Amarr Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.08.26 11:10:00 - [9] From:M-C Hydra Archon class Location:Pserz Imp Contract HQ The hypocracy of this librarian never ceases to amaze me, pointing his crooked rat paw at me , calling me a traitor and unfaithfull to the Empire, and in the same breath work to redeem one who clearly is guilty of the very same crimes that i have been accused of. I dont recall i was given any chance to clear my name or "work" to redeem myself in the eyes of this sect leader , but if you think about it , it all makes since, i am a member of a organization whos sole purpose is to combat enemies of Amarr and to protect the Emperor from the likes of the Tetrimon. Lets take a look at the charges against lady Nefaris: *Cease and desist all wars and hostilities with corporations loyal to the Amarr Empire. Declaring war against a paramillitary organizition such as the CVA falls under CONCORD juristictionand thus is not a crime , however killing faithfull subjext of the Emperor is a capital sin and is punishable by death You will have to renounce your ties to the Vesium Family and Dark Sereph. Should others wish to follow you in a quest for redemption that is acceptable. They will also have to comply with these conditions if they want my support in the matter. Those names are forever tainted with the heresy they've wrought. In addition, while you deny having ties with the blood raiders or Sani Sabik I will still say that if you do you must renounce your ties with them. Associating with bloodraiders , death You will apologize, publicly, to every faithful corporation you've harmed. If you cannot admit you've done wrong by the faithful then you are not ready to serve with them again. There will be no compromise in this matter for the sake of personal pride. I explained that redemption involves sacrifice and in this case your sacrifice will be the one thing that led you to heresy to begin with, your pride. You must choose God before yourself, and I consider this condition the most important of any that I've listed. Apologize for murder??, that will not do let me quote the scriptures: "Our Lord visited his flock and saw that all was not good. Blasphemy and heresy ruled the land. The Lord punished the sinners and drowned them in their own blood. But the people of Amarr lived righteously and in fear of God. Thus they were saved and became God's chosen one." ## The Scriptures. Book II. God does not forgive sinners he drowns them in their own blood You will make damage reparations to those faithful corporations you've harmed. Part of redemption is undoing the damage you've done. You told me of your wealth, and now it is time for this wealth to be used to rebuild the assets of those whom it has been used to destroy. How will you repair the lives you have taken , Revans death might be to some comfort for the families but no amount of ISK will repair what she has taken While your feelings are your own, you will not publicly or privately harbor ill will towards to those whom you've harmed This is between God and Revan I will not pass judgement on Revan Nefaris it is not my place to do so , but neither is it the Tetrimons , matters of heresey and treason are to be solved by the Theology Councill and the Imperial courts , not by sect leaders whos organizations legitimacy has yet to be be resolved. Ask your self why would Horm want to redeem such a person??, is it out of caring for her imortal soul?? or is it to further his own purposes??. Ask your self this?? Will Revan Nefaris a former cult follower be a asset to the Tetrimon sect again ,and most important will her substantial finances be of use to the "Grandmaster" Golan Trevize M-C Capital Operations The Gallente ideals of Freedom, Liberty and Equality will be met by the Amarr realities of Lasers, Armor and Battleships.
Revan Neferis Amarr Guiding Hand Social Club	Posted - 2006.08.26 11:30:00 - [10] Edited by: Revan Neferis on 26/08/2006 11:36:27 Edited by: Revan Neferis on 26/08/2006 11:33:37 Originally by: Octavinus Augustus Originally by: Revan Neferis I hereby tender mu apologies to the innocent corporations who feels themselves injured during the wars. I notice that you fail to name any names of corporations/alliances that are specifically included in this apology. I would personally like very much to hear who exactly comes under your definition of "innocent" in these matters. Does this apology include AM from whom you rebelled? Does it include CVA on whom you waged war? Does it include the corporation to which I belong, PIE? Could you please (at least for my convenience - and for the convenience of many others I guess) name those corporations your apology include by name? The apology is addressed to all who wants to receive them. It includes the alliances/corporations you mention and PIE, although raged wars against VF of course if feel included, I will not say otherwise. The matters I pursue at this moment is of more interest to me as any other that was ever presented. I will pursue it, and accomplish what was requested independent of any unwelcome opinions regarding Horm or Myself. As I was also adviced to not reply to vulgarities, AM and Cia save your breath. The elite slaves and the Prisoners of war are offered still, including to PIE. They are under my personal treatment, at my Estates and are kept well shaped, but I won't have them there forever, so make up your minds. The offer is still valid, will you accept or not, is the least of my concerns. Originally by: Golan Trevize Ask your self why would Horm want to redeem such a person??, is it out of caring for her imortal soul?? or is it to further his own purposes??. Ask your self this?? Will Revan Nefaris a former cult follower be a asset to the Tetrimon sect again ,and most important will her substantial finances be of use to the "Grandmaster" Golan Trevize M-C Capital Operations This is between Horm and Myself. If he has an agenda, who doesn't? Who will be the judge of it? Let's wait and see what the future brings. Revan Neferis Verisum

Habraka House Nosferatu Verisum Family	Posted - 2006.08.26 11:32:00 - [11] CVA and PIE declared war on VF, if I recall correctly. And I wonder where that rat of a Chancellor Valerius is now, so he can see where all his begging brought him and his order.
Tharrn Amarr 1st Praetorian Guard Vigilia Valeria	Posted - 2006.08.26 11:33:00 - [12] Some Elite Slaves for 10 billion in damage caused by Omniscient Order alone according to their logs? Doesn't sound feasible. Now recruiting!
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2006.08.26 11:35:00 - [13] Grand Master Horm, we will be privately contacting you shortly regarding this matter. In the meantime, I ask all PIE members below the rank of Vice-Admiral to refrain from adding to this discussion here. Dulce et decorum est, pro imperator mori
Tigerfish Torpedo Dark Seraph Verisum Family	Posted - 2006.08.26 12:29:00 - [14] Truely incredible! Fascinating, in fact. Anyone else find it interesting that during the war, all of VF's enemies (Pie, CVA, AM, Intaki Union, etc, etc) state they've taken such little damage from our forces and caused us so much loss, and yet once the word "reparations" has been uttered, suddenly a figure of 10 billion crops up! Tell me, how can a corp claiming complete victory over VF request such high payment? <laughs again> Pathetic! Besides, other than the 'get rich quick' scheme operating here against the former Shiras of Dark Seraph, it is another point that PIE declared war upon VF. Where should be the need for reparations, or even apology, for a war Lady Neferis never started? Just my humble opinion.
Tharrn Amarr 1st Praetorian Guard Vigilia Valeria	Posted - 2006.08.26 12:39:00 - [15] I was just referring to the figures Omniscient Order has made public, which noone ever claimed to be false. If the losses actually hurt anyone is besides the point - that is the damage that was caused. Besides Revan will remain to be a persona non grata unless the Emperor himself or the Privy Council decrees otherwise. Now recruiting!
Revan Neferis Amarr Guiding Hand Social Club	Posted - 2006.08.26 12:53:00 - [16] Originally by: Tharrn I was just referring to the figures Omniscient Order has made public, which noone ever claimed to be false. If the losses actually hurt anyone is besides the point - that is the damage that was caused. Besides Revan will remain to be a persona non grata unless the Emperor himself or the Privy Council decrees otherwise. Again mixing with deals you didn't even participate. I find amusing. To my Prathet, you are right Tigerfish. But do not concern yourself, I'm full aware of the fact these people simply can't set a price in a pardon which would be similar of selling the gates of heaven. Lunacy in it's pure shape. The elite slaves, 10k, could alone build an entire system. To offer such work force is already very feasible of me, if not perhaps even generous. The prisioners of wars, it is their own alliaces / corps who should have interest on receiving them. Should they also not be welcomed, I will simply send them back to Verisum to be subject of our laboratory experiments as they were firstly intented to be used. Finally the "persona non grata" I hope this will be very true. I have no interest whatsoever on shaking hands with you anytime soon. Revan Neferis Verisum
Tigerfish Torpedo Dark Seraph Verisum Family	Posted - 2006.08.26 12:59:00 - [17] <Wiping a tear away> Former Prathet, Shiras. You left me behind..... I hope it was worth it, I really do. <Carries on crying>
Revan Neferis Amarr Guiding Hand Social Club	Posted - 2006.08.26 13:30:00 - [18] Originally by: Tigerfish Torpedo <Wiping a tear away> Former Prathet, Shiras. You left me behind..... I hope it was worth it, I really do. <Carries on crying> My beloved Tigerfish; No tears. Know that I have told My husband, the Lord Jeserat Verisum about all your services under your period as my Prathet and he is trully moved by everything you have done. I'm sure that you will find confort as his Archist. Be strong my dear. Be the Prathet I have always admired. Remember; you have a special place inside my heart. Revan Neferis Verisum
Tigerfish Torpedo Dark Seraph Verisum Family	Posted - 2006.08.26 13:39:00 - [19] <Stops crying and bows his head> Shiras, although that does not ease my pain at all, I appreciate your words. Your wisdom and kindness will never be forgotten, even during these, my darkest days. It was truely an honor serving you, and only you. I will have a bottle of your favorite wine despatched today. Fairwell, dearest Shiras. May you always be looked upon with the respect and love that I felt during my time as your Prathet. <Turns off his compad>
Habraka House Nosferatu Verisum Family	Posted - 2006.08.26 14:37:00 - [20] Verisum Family still follows the ideology of Dark Seraph, which Revan was a member of and on which she based her actions. She may have joined another corporation due to demands of a higher ranking official, she will never leave VF in spirit and ideas.

Koshmarnaya Akula Kydance Radiant Industries	Posted - 2006.08.26 16:24:00 - [21] Originally by: Grand Master Horm If you cannot admit you've done wrong by the faithful then you are not ready to serve with them again. Originally by: Revan Neferis Continuing with the requested demands; I hereby tender mu apologies to the innocent corporations who feels themselves injured during the wars. Well good thing that was done in the right spirit.... rolls eyes
Malthros Zenobia Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Kimotoro Directive	Posted - 2006.08.26 16:29:00 - [22] Originally by: Revan Neferis The elite slaves, 10k, could alone build an entire system. To offer such work force is already very feasible of me, if not perhaps even generous. Perhaps they could build a computer-system, with some training, but 10k of the hardest workers or most effective construction drones cannot do what you're claiming. 10million slaves, even 'elite' ones, cannot. Slaves are just too... ineffective, and like all other citizens of the cluster, their bodies are too fragile and weak. Quote: The prisioners of wars, it is their own alliaces / corps who should have interest on receiving them. Should they also not be welcomed, I will simply send them back to Verisum to be subject of our laboratory experiments as they were firstly intented to be used. Horm should open his eyes, or have his God cure his blindness. Revan has not given up her ties to VF, she simply sits with others until you stop looking at her. Horm, you are a fool. You're action, if done by the State, would be on par with the SEP pardoning a high-ranking officer of the Guristas.
Revan Neferis Amarr Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.08.26 17:06:00 - [23] Originally by: Malthros Zenobia Horm, you are a fool. You're action, if done by the State, would be on par with the SEP pardoning a high-ranking officer of the Guristas. High-ranking officer of the guristas. I'm impressed. Revan Neferis Verisum
Verjigorm Dark Seraph Verisum Family	Posted - 2006.08.26 17:12:00 - [24] Originally by: Grand Master Horm You will have to renounce your ties to the Vesium Family and Dark Sereph. Should others wish to follow you in a quest for redemption that is acceptable. They will also have to comply with these conditions if they want my support in the matter. Those names are forever tainted with the heresy they've wrought. In addition, while you deny having ties with the blood raiders or Sani Sabik I will still say that if you do you must renounce your ties with them. The [listed] condition has been met. ItÆs time for Dark Seraph to speak. We have been betrayed and it has been a most savage and deep betrayal. Our betrayer is not Revan Verisum, however. Our betrayer is Grand Mast Horm. There is no longer any need to convey our long history of service to our empire or the fight weÆve taken so strongly to our opponents. No, you see only what you wish to see in our actions. But you, Grand Master Horm, have gone too far. You have torn a woman from her Family. The house of her husband is no longer where she rests. You, Horm, have taken that from her even as she complied with your ridiculous demands. She belongs with us and you have torn her from her home. This will not be tolerated. You are pulling from her all that she holds dear when clearly she has strived to comply to your demands. Are you so arrogant to have to take it all from her? Your cronies, your puppets in your order speak of her free will, they clearly donÆt know of the pressure you applied to her. How disgusting. No voice of God would be so wholly concentrated on destroying that which is so beautiful. This demand is not acceptable. I will not allow you to destroy her pr us any longer. I am disgusted by your pompous arrogance Horm and that of your Order. Your time shall come. I will show you. Deliver her unto us or I shall myself. Signed, Reisha Nafina First Governor
Takitoo Ebon Phoenix	Posted - 2006.08.26 17:20:00 - [25] I really think if this uh ... Horm guy wasn't so dense the little one couldn't get away with all this, by just writing some apologies. (with some flashy rhetorics belittling the people she's 'apologising' to, even) I wouldn't blame this halfassed attempt at "Amarr Justice" so much on her. We all know where she stands. I'd blame it on Horm who for some reason must have had a brain amputation or something. Because he sure is acting like it. The first thing I'd do, if I was in his position is seize all assets. Not some paltry little sum, or anything. No. All assets. then I'd make sure she grovels, not this bullcrap "head held high" with some thinly veiled insults stunt she's doing. Grovel. Apologise. Not stand there and say "corporations who feel they were harmed" or little things like "vulgarities, so CVA/PIE save your breath". She doesn't sound like an apologetic "sinner", repenting to me. She sounds like she won yet another high ranking official over who is allowing her a "Get out of Jail Free" card. Not to mention that she's still part of a criminal organisation. And that even she has said her ideals and goals haven't changed. But hey, you Amarr sort that one out yourselves. I'm sure if you all stuck your heads together you'd manage just for once growing enough brains to realize what exactly you're doing. So, post more, Revan and Co. More ! Poooost ! ___________________________ snip Inappropriate link removed- Tirg
Astarte Nosferatu House Nosferatu Verisum Family	Posted - 2006.08.26 17:27:00 - [26] Originally by: Takitoo Not to mention that she's still part of a criminal organisation. Are you accusing Umbra Congregatia and Interstaller Alcohol Conglomerate of criminal activities, as that are the corp and alliance she's a part of this very moment.
Takitoo Ebon Phoenix	Posted - 2006.08.26 17:33:00 - [27] Oh hey ! She swapped again ! I wonder why she left GHSC. ___________________________ snip Inappropriate link removed- Tirg
Kyoko Sakoda Caldari Omerta Syndicate Pure.	Posted - 2006.08.26 17:42:00 - [28] My guess is she didn't leave willfully. She was flying under that banner for what, less than a day? Learn what it means to be Caldari - www.omertasyndicate.com
Astarte Nosferatu House Nosferatu Verisum Family	Posted - 2006.08.26 17:42:00 - [29] Originally by: Takitoo Oh hey ! She swapped again ! I wonder why she left GHSC. Ask her in a private convo?
Takitoo Ebon Phoenix	Posted - 2006.08.26 17:52:00 - [30] Originally by: Astarte Nosferatu Ask her in a private convo? Why would I want to listen to a lie ? ___________________________ snip Inappropriate link removed- Tirg Aww. No more funny.



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