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Alliaanna Dalaii Gallente Does Not Compute	Posted - 2006.08.29 11:13:00 - [1] Is it me or does CCP really need to rethink their policy surrounding these two issues. And in fact i'd go as far as saying they need to ban the funtion NOW. Well ok maybe not quite that drastic, but close GTC's & Charachter Sales As it stands at this present time the allowing of charchter sales and GTC's is the easiest and most exploitanle system I can actually remember you implenting. All any person in Eve requires in order to iether make a large portion of isk completely risk free, or to make a tidy amount of real life cash again completely risk and effort free is to have a trial account. (Or did CCP make them unable to send/recieve isk ? If so use an account payed for under bogus details and GTC, Irony ) "But we condemn scamming" ccp If I accept a buyout on my ficticious chachter sale and recieve my isk, it will take generally 24hours at most for the charchter who brought it to expect their charachter safetly in their hands. You can expect CCP to look into the event after petition after what ? 48hours ? (Rofl yeah right, but anyway ) In 2 hours I can completely launder allmost any amount of isk you can give me. Finding it would be a nightmare, And no this isn't anything to do with escrow. So what happens then ? The scammed party gets their isk back. And the scammer walks off scott free to do it again and/or use this isk to purchase GTC's to sell for RL cash..... Ban GTC's Kthxbye. I believe one of you head GM's once said "Real life circumstances should not further in game progression" I guesse you caved in to the $ factor. Alliaanna DNC Treasure Hunt !!
wierchas noobhunter Caldari The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2006.08.29 11:16:00 - [2] well when u ban gtc u ban me from game so say plz no kthxbye
Bhaal Minmatar M. Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.08.29 11:18:00 - [3] Originally by: wierchas noobhunter well when u ban gtc u ban me from game so say plz no kthxbye Why should ppl who have no $$ in RL to play an MMO be able to play? Seriously? Why should you be able to play for free? ------------------------------------------------ Current Hobby other than EVE My Hero
Noluck Ned FATAL REVELATIONS Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.08.29 11:18:00 - [4] When they ban you for tying it can I have your stuff?
Alliaanna Dalaii Gallente Does Not Compute	Posted - 2006.08.29 11:19:00 - [5] Originally by: wierchas noobhunter well when u ban gtc u ban me from game so say plz no kthxbye I haven't thought of any way around it yet lol But an alternative method of payment to CCP is needed for those of you with no credit cards, I'l agree on that. But whatever it is it SHOULD NOT be allowed to be resold for isk by another customer. Alliaanna DNC Treasure Hunt !!
without	Posted - 2006.08.29 11:28:00 - [6] i think you are mistaken, EVE character scams are looked into instantly. read some of the scam character sales, the scamed partys say things like meh i got my isk back within 30mins hope the guy gets a ban ect as for finding the transfered moneys, well again if all else fails, look at IP and ban all account that where connected via that ip.
Bhaal Minmatar M. Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.08.29 11:32:00 - [7] Edited by: Bhaal on 29/08/2006 11:32:33 GTC's were not intended to be used for some players to get a free ride, nor for others to make ISK via RL cash. They were simply intended as a means to buy EVE playtime... It really needs to stop... When you buy a GTC, there should be a requirement that you give the email address/account name that is tied into your EVE Online account. And the code will only work for that account... ------------------------------------------------ Current Hobby other than EVE My Hero
Irrilian Eve University	Posted - 2006.08.29 11:34:00 - [8] ThereÆs no need to come up with complex and time consuming scams with GTCs etc when there is a much more reliable and unfortunately legitimate way to generate $ from Eve. Establish a GTC selling website. Employ teams of sweatshop farmers to grind out ISK 23/7 for a few dollars a day. Buy GTC from players on the forums/in game. Resell GTC via your website. You essentially have a continuous circle of GTC pumping out dollars for some dubious Secondary Market company to get rich off.
Bhaal Minmatar M. Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.08.29 11:36:00 - [9] Originally by: Irrilian ThereÆs no need to come up with complex and time consuming scams with GTCs etc when there is a much more reliable and unfortunately legitimate way to generate $ from Eve. Establish a GTC selling website. Employ teams of sweatshop farmers to grind out ISK 23/7 for a few dollars a day. Buy GTC from players on the forums/in game. Resell GTC via your website. You essentially have a continuous circle of GTC pumping out dollars for some dubious Secondary Market company to get rich off. That's why when you buy a GTC, the code needs to be generated on the spot for a specific account only... ------------------------------------------------ Current Hobby other than EVE My Hero
Alliaanna Dalaii Gallente Does Not Compute	Posted - 2006.08.29 11:36:00 - [10] Originally by: without i think you are mistaken, EVE character scams are looked into instantly. read some of the scam character sales, the scamed partys say things like meh i got my isk back within 30mins hope the guy gets a ban ect as for finding the transfered moneys, well again if all else fails, look at IP and ban all account that where connected via that ip. Do you honestly think 30minutes after handing over your isk you wouldn't believe any reasons/excuses as to why you wouldn't get your charachter till a few hours later ? "Wife has my credit card mate lol, sit tight" etc... And tbh you could Launder the isk in exactly 140seconds... Depending how fast you can click on stuff. And like Bhaal said GTC's are not being used as intended... Far from it. Alliaanna DNC Treasure Hunt !!
Cheyenne Shadowborn Caldari Citizens of E.A.R.T.H. E.A.R.T.H. Federation	Posted - 2006.08.29 11:38:00 - [11] I totally agree with you on GTCs, in the same way I did agree with you on GTCs when you made the same point some days ago --
Tammarr	Posted - 2006.08.29 11:42:00 - [12] GTC's be great. The old 3 kids, wife and 10 hour workday guy who can only spend 4 hours a week playing eve and wants action when he does, spends a wee bit of his rl income to buy a gtc and sell it to get isk and be able to enjoy the game up with thoose who can play 23/7 and farm for isk. If you can launder almost any amount of isk in 24 hours then think about the upswing in ebay sales banning gtcs would be, good? no. "Real life circumstances should not further in game progression"-Oh, so the target audience are the unemployed ones cabable of spending loads of hours online every day? What if the target audience is the more casual gamer, not cabable to spend hours and hours playing a video game? Oh yeah I know, we must ban the ones who get unfair advantage over the greater mass due to no time restrictions. Basicly you get my hinted point? Ehm... To go with that GTC's be a great addition, allowing people to enjoy the game by paying iskies for time and adding to the happiness of someone with the rl money no time syndrome. And yet we get abusers, hoarding loads of isk by selling gtcs to bump the economy in their favour. The problem as I see it is not getting the isk, the problem would more be how quickly it can go from 0->10B(made up number(tm)) in your wallet, but restricting this means people will go around it. Onwards... Stopping the gtcs for isk will open up the ebay and in the dark trading. For instance I would happily sell some iskies to a corp/alliance mate for some gatetime on the out of game forums should I need it(I've bought a gtc once because the eta on my money was 6 days :( ) Dont we have something for this already I wonder? Receivable bills ? I've never realy tought about them until now. Something similar anyhow. Sell the character, you get a bill that will be payed out... oh say... 50 hours from the hour of deposit? Hopefully plenty of time to contact CCP and have them cancel the transaction, without laundering. It does not hamper anyone, except the scammers of such important things as gtc/character sales. I know I've probably come of as a loon from all my chit and chatter but the last piece of my writing holds merit in its idea, no?
wierchas noobhunter Caldari The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2006.08.29 11:44:00 - [13] Originally by: Bhaal Originally by: wierchas noobhunter well when u ban gtc u ban me from game so say plz no kthxbye Why should ppl who have no $$ in RL to play an MMO be able to play? Seriously? Why should you be able to play for free? ohh look at me i have **** loads of money i can spent them all on n ( insert random number here ) eve acounts tbh i dont have money to pay for eve i work hard to pay for my studys
Bhaal Minmatar M. Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.08.29 11:47:00 - [14] Originally by: wierchas noobhunter Originally by: Bhaal Originally by: wierchas noobhunter well when u ban gtc u ban me from game so say plz no kthxbye Why should ppl who have no $$ in RL to play an MMO be able to play? Seriously? Why should you be able to play for free? ohh look at me i have **** loads of money i can spent them all on n ( insert random number here ) eve acounts tbh i dont have money to pay for eve i work hard to pay for my studys I paid my own way through school as well... Doesn't matter. Fact is GTC's are another way for ppl to take advantage of & exploit EVE Online to make RL $$... All forms of making RL $$ from an MMO needs to be stopped. ------------------------------------------------ Current Hobby other than EVE My Hero
Infinity Ziona Apostasia	Posted - 2006.08.29 11:50:00 - [15] EvE is 50c a day. Anyone who cant afford that cant afford a computer and internet access either. 50c a day cmon. There is NO reason for the GTC crap. Click Me
Alliaanna Dalaii Gallente Does Not Compute	Posted - 2006.08.29 11:50:00 - [16] Originally by: Cheyenne Shadowborn I totally agree with you on GTCs, in the same way I did agree with you on GTCs when you made the same point some days ago If at first no one listens, Shout louder Alliaanna DNC Treasure Hunt !!
framolia Gallente The Breakfast Club	Posted - 2006.08.29 11:51:00 - [17] Well I cant buy GTC's any other way than with ISK at this moment in time due to restraints with regards to not being allowed any plastic currency. Now if CCP have a deal with some of the gaming outlets in the UK to sell GTC over the counter then I would be able to purchase with no problem. With regards to selling charecters, I did try and sell a ligitimate alt. But it all fell through.
Spiderweb Caldari GENERIC RACE Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2006.08.29 11:54:00 - [18] if you scam someone with e.g. a trial acc and go buy items from market to give them to someone else , ALL parties involved get a perma ban. theres logs for every move theres no way around it, thats exactly why CCP still lets GTC and characters sales to go through ----------------------------------------------- "Light, in the Darkest of Hours..."
Acronikosz Caldari Solaris Federation	Posted - 2006.08.29 12:13:00 - [19] Edited by: Acronikosz on 29/08/2006 12:13:37 Originally by: Alliaanna Dalaii Is it me or does CCP really need to rethink their policy surrounding these two issues. And in fact i'd go as far as saying they need to ban the funtion NOW. Well ok maybe not quite that drastic, but close GTC's & Charachter Sales As it stands at this present time the allowing of charchter sales and GTC's is the easiest and most exploitanle system I can actually remember you implenting. All any person in Eve requires in order to iether make a large portion of isk completely risk free, or to make a tidy amount of real life cash again completely risk and effort free is to have a trial account. (Or did CCP make them unable to send/recieve isk ? If so use an account payed for under bogus details and GTC, Irony ) "But we condemn scamming" ccp If I accept a buyout on my ficticious chachter sale and recieve my isk, it will take generally 24hours at most for the charchter who brought it to expect their charachter safetly in their hands. You can expect CCP to look into the event after petition after what ? 48hours ? (Rofl yeah right, but anyway ) In 2 hours I can completely launder allmost any amount of isk you can give me. Finding it would be a nightmare, And no this isn't anything to do with escrow. So what happens then ? The scammed party gets their isk back. And the scammer walks off scott free to do it again and/or use this isk to purchase GTC's to sell for RL cash..... Ban GTC's Kthxbye. I believe one of you head GM's once said "Real life circumstances should not further in game progression" I guesse you caved in to the $ factor. Alliaanna Dude do us all a favour, STOP WHINNING AND SHUT UP FFS, It doesnt affect you so leave GTC how they are ... ban GTC and you ban me !
kbullet Caldari 0utbreak	Posted - 2006.08.29 12:15:00 - [20] yeh trial accounts less than 30 days old should not be allowed to post in all forums except General discussion and EVE New Citizens Q&A that may solve the prob banning selling gtc is a nono --- Give me liberty or give me death!
w0rmy Intensive CareBearz	Posted - 2006.08.29 12:18:00 - [21] Originally by: Bhaal Fact is GTC's are another way for ppl to take advantage of & exploit EVE Online to make RL $$... All forms of making RL $$ from an MMO need to be stopped. Yes, punish the many for the crimes of the few!!! Originally by: Avon Originally by: Dark Shikari What single item is larger than a jetcan? My ego?
Alexandra Claw	Posted - 2006.08.29 12:18:00 - [22] Originally by: Alliaanna Dalaii Originally by: wierchas noobhunter well when u ban gtc u ban me from game so say plz no kthxbye I haven't thought of any way around it yet lol But an alternative method of payment to CCP is needed for those of you with no credit cards, I'l agree on that. Direct Debit (in Europe at least, in US the concept is a bit unknown afaik) Using parents CC (every bank I know throws CCs at me, its hard to avoid them really, some relative would prolly have one) Checks (Traveler's checks) per snail mail to CCP Post Office Transfers Wire Transfers So many options that do not permit RL money infusions.
Zissou	Posted - 2006.08.29 12:22:00 - [23] GTC shouldn't be banned. What should be banned is the ability to buy GTC for isk. At present you have people playing the game in order to buy GTC's (basically playing in order to earn the ability to play more!). You also have people using cash to buy GTC and converting it to isk. Its also possible to make cash by buying GTC for isk and reselling. All 3 of those are simply wrong. GTC should only be able to be purchased using cash and should not be able to be sold for isk.
Vadarr Mann	Posted - 2006.08.29 12:23:00 - [24] Originally by: Spiderweb if you scam someone with e.g. a trial acc and go buy items from market to give them to someone else , ALL parties involved get a perma ban. theres logs for every move theres no way around it, thats exactly why CCP still lets GTC and characters sales to go through I believe this to not be true, theres a certain scammer, or group of them on the sell order forums who make a number of scam alts all day every day, to claim they are selling timecodes and then scamming people, of course the guy is obviously getting banned every now and then and thats why he makes new alts all the time, but the question is why does he keep doing this? He has been doing this for months, you would think if hes getting no isk out of it he would have stopped a long time ago, he must be successfully laundering that isk to keep at it the way he is.
Will Steel	Posted - 2006.08.29 12:26:00 - [25] ISK 4 GTC is an excellent system for EVE. It keeps players that might, eventually, think twice about putting money towards something that is already time-consuming(therefore costing potential money) every month. Subconciously the math will be done, and a few folks might opt to put the ~150 dollars towards a new BBQ then get back to having a social life. The free game time is brilliant because it makes the little time-eating hobby free thus that particular sort of guilt isn't there to add to cons that are always being weighed in the back of a player's mind. CCP doesn't suffer a loss of a subscription charge, EVE doesn't suffer a loss of a player. It's totally win-win for everyone involved. Of course, there is the issue of real-life cashola having a possibly significant impact on the game. Typically games are perceived as needing to be "fair" to all players so that all compete on even terrain. Luckily, it's not necessary to gather the biggest pile of ISKs to enjoy EVE.
Bill Shankly	Posted - 2006.08.29 12:27:00 - [26] Edited by: Bill Shankly on 29/08/2006 12:31:20 Originally by: Bhaal Originally by: wierchas noobhunter well when u ban gtc u ban me from game so say plz no kthxbye Why should ppl who have no $$ in RL to play an MMO be able to play? Seriously? Why should you be able to play for free? /Yawn Some people cannot afford to pay for any entertainment after they have paid for bills and children etc, unlike u not all are born with a silver spoon up there arse.
Bhaal Minmatar M. Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.08.29 12:27:00 - [27] Edited by: Bhaal on 29/08/2006 12:29:15 Originally by: w0rmy Originally by: Bhaal Fact is GTC's are another way for ppl to take advantage of & exploit EVE Online to make RL $$... All forms of making RL $$ from an MMO need to be stopped. Yes, punish the many for the crimes of the few!!! Well, sorry if you can't afford something... When I paid my way through school, I certainly was not running around spending $$ on MMO subscriptions... There are plenty of thigs I want in life that I can't afford, that's the way it is... Sorry, but I don't feel anything for those who would have to leave a game, that right now are playing for free... GTC's hurt EVE, if you love the game as much as you say, you'd understand that... Quote: GTC should only be able to be purchased using cash and should not be able to be sold for isk. And the way to do that is by giving your account name & email address when you buy a GTC, and the code is tied to your account, only the buyer may use it... ------------------------------------------------ Current Hobby other than EVE My Hero
oniplE	Posted - 2006.08.29 12:43:00 - [28] lol man, whatever people do with their ISK is non of your business, you dont even have the right to be bothered with it. (talking to the whiners) Apart from that, banning GTC's will put a dent in the playerbase, and CCP will lose income, i don't see how that can ever be a good thing for any of us.
Bhaal Minmatar M. Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.08.29 12:47:00 - [29] Originally by: Bill Shankly Edited by: Bill Shankly on 29/08/2006 12:34:00 Edited by: Bill Shankly on 29/08/2006 12:31:20 Originally by: Bhaal Originally by: wierchas noobhunter well when u ban gtc u ban me from game so say plz no kthxbye Why should ppl who have no $$ in RL to play an MMO be able to play? Seriously? Why should you be able to play for free? /Yawn Some people cannot afford to pay for any entertainment after they have paid for bills and children etc, unlike u not all are born with a silver spoon up there arse and lots got nothing from muumy and daddy. Silver spoon? Like I said, I paid my way through school (6 years as an auto mechanic while studying to be a Mechanical Engineer) No silver spoon here buddy... Why should you get to play for free? ------------------------------------------------ Current Hobby other than EVE My Hero
Bill Shankly	Posted - 2006.08.29 12:49:00 - [30] why should you not get to play for free ?

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