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Labtest	Posted - 2006.08.30 05:21:00 - [1] FFS! EVE is a pvp game, the term 'player killer' is completely stupid. Other games where you pick flowers and hold hands, yes you can use the term pk, but not in EVE. Killing eachother is a vital pat of the game, stop using the stupid term player killer. No one hardly used this term earlier, however as the subscribers increased and we got more fantasy mmorpg's coming from carebear games we saw the increase in people using this term. STOP IT!
Master Spoonman Amarr Enclave Services	Posted - 2006.08.30 05:53:00 - [2] Edited by: Master Spoonman on 30/08/2006 05:53:19 Originally by: Labtest Other games where you pick flowers and hold hands I honestly wonder in this history of gaming whether one was made based on this. * Spoonman * Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing.
Alliaanna Dalaii Gallente Does Not Compute	Posted - 2006.08.30 06:17:00 - [3] Originally by: Master Spoonman Edited by: Master Spoonman on 30/08/2006 05:53:19 Originally by: Labtest Other games where you pick flowers and hold hands I honestly wonder in this history of gaming whether one was made based on this. WoW Alliaanna DNC Treasure Hunt !!
Heikki Gallente Wreckless Abandon	Posted - 2006.08.30 06:21:00 - [4] Originally by: Labtest EVE is a pvp game, the term 'player killer' is completely stupid Njah, Eve is both co-operative and competitive game, not just for mindless shooting (at least not for most folks). Regardless, as long as the has game visible differences depending whether you killing NPC or PC ship, we need distinct terms for each action. So, if you find 'player killer' to be politically incorrect with negative connotations, could as well suggest better terms. Originally by: "Master Spoonman" history of gaming whether one was made based on this [picking flowers & holding hands] Habbo Hotel To me 'pk' acts are subset of PvP actions (excluding for example trade wars and political schemes). -Lasse
FreieLiebe Caldari Smile and Die	Posted - 2006.08.30 07:11:00 - [5] rofl ... whining about a word ^^ pk means player killer... if you are a pirate you kill players, so player killer! Player killing is a part of eve, Yes! Live with it or please leave the game... ---------- Free Love for Everyone... (FreieLiebe)
Jenstruant Fogg	Posted - 2006.08.30 07:56:00 - [6] In EVE< I like to think pk mean pod kill
Thut'ankh Amon Veto.	Posted - 2006.08.30 08:09:00 - [7] Originally by: Jenstruant Fogg In EVE< I like to think pk mean pod kill agreed There can be only one Amon
mazzilliu Caldari SniggWaffe	Posted - 2006.08.30 08:11:00 - [8] i prefer not to be called "PK" but rather "greifer" or ******* will still draw sigs 4 isk click here
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation	Posted - 2006.08.30 08:13:00 - [9] PodKill PK applies to eve just fine ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Masta Killa BURN EDEN	Posted - 2006.08.30 08:30:00 - [10] Originally by: Heikki Originally by: "Master Spoonman" history of gaming whether one was made based on this [picking flowers & holding hands] Habbo Hotel Oh god I looked at that game's site a while ago and I haven't been the same ever since =\| Also, check out Oz Online Saw it on Penny Arcade's MMO list and.. well you can judge for yourself. It's about fishing and holding hands. -------------------------------------- "It's like, we show up and UDIE."
Death Kill Caldari direkte	Posted - 2006.08.30 09:12:00 - [11] Edited by: Death Kill on 30/08/2006 09:12:04 Originally by: FreieLiebe rofl ... whining about a word ^^ pk means player killer... if you are a pirate you kill players, so player killer! Player killing is a part of eve, Yes! Live with it or please leave the game... So start calling miners 'ore extractors'/'asteroid miners' or something then, because that would be equally stupid lol. I agree with op. Recruitment
Jazz Bo Caldari Plan 9 from Outer Space	Posted - 2006.08.30 09:16:00 - [12] Originally by: Alliaanna Dalaii Originally by: Master Spoonman Edited by: Master Spoonman on 30/08/2006 05:53:19 Originally by: Labtest Other games where you pick flowers and hold hands I honestly wonder in this history of gaming whether one was made based on this. WoW Alliaanna In Wow you can freely attack the other faction's members on about 70% of the entire territory. The only time using "player killer" is even slightly understandable is in games where the mechanics don't allow you to attack any other players, ever, so you would need to actually hack the game code to kill their characters. Like, say, Phantasy Star Online on the Dreamcast. Calling yourself a "player killer" in Eve is silly... and anyway it's meta-gaming. Pew pew... ka-boom.... pew pew.... squisssh!
Verus Potestas Caldari Fiat Mort	Posted - 2006.08.30 09:21:00 - [13] Originally by: Thut'ankh Amon Originally by: Jenstruant Fogg In EVE< I like to think pk mean pod kill agreed yeah, that's how I usually see it used.
Thamis Geniem Gallente	Posted - 2006.08.30 09:51:00 - [14] Originally by: Death Kill Edited by: Death Kill on 30/08/2006 09:12:04 Originally by: FreieLiebe rofl ... whining about a word ^^ pk means player killer... if you are a pirate you kill players, so player killer! Player killing is a part of eve, Yes! Live with it or please leave the game... So start calling miners 'ore extractors'/'asteroid miners' or something then, because that would be equally stupid lol. I agree with op. I would prefer the term 'rk' for 'roid killer' ;)
eeevans	Posted - 2006.08.30 12:11:00 - [15] i'd bet the term "pk" easily pre-dates your fancy mmorpg pee cee games.... it was widely used on muds i played in the early 90s... same game mechanic as eve... safe areas, like empire... pk zones, like low sec... get killed there... you've been pk'd... of course, now you have "gank"... which is such a better word, n'est ce pas?
TuRtLe HeAd The Bratwurst Burglars	Posted - 2006.08.30 13:13:00 - [16] Pod Kill
Xendie Hunter Killers	Posted - 2006.08.30 13:23:00 - [17] Originally by: TuRtLe HeAd Pod Kill A.K.A Local chat relief. Quote: Nertzius > having fun being incompetitent?
Liegus	Posted - 2006.08.30 14:20:00 - [18] Originally by: Labtest the term 'player killer' is completely stupid... STOP IT! I'm also offended that those who kill players are called "player killers". On a related note, we need to immediately STOP calling those who bake cakes "bakers". This kind of discrimination has no place in EVE. Back in the old days we used to call them l33t b4xz0rz, but all the damn newbies flooding the game are corrupting our pure language. DOWN WITH WHATEVER WE'RE PROTESTING AGAINST!! If you find yourself similarly offended, we're currently accepting donations of cinder blocks, bricks, and duct tape so we can build a raft for our protest march on CCP headquarters. Thank you.
Lienzo Minmatar	Posted - 2006.08.30 14:24:00 - [19] Well that certainly simplifies it from criminals, highwaymen, brigantines, mercenaries, servicemen, patrolmen, assassins, pirates, thugs and death squads. PK doesn't really have an antonym though, except maybe bystanders. Carebear or target is in a different yet constrained category altogether rather than one of "not-pk." Overlap is loose and easy, and if it shifts with the hours of the day, it's can't be part of a classical definition.
Cheyenne Shadowborn Caldari Citizens of E.A.R.T.H. E.A.R.T.H. Federation	Posted - 2006.08.30 15:19:00 - [20] Originally by: Labtest FFS! EVE is a pvp game, the term 'player killer' is completely stupid. Other games where you pick flowers and hold hands, yes you can use the term pk, but not in EVE. Killing eachother is a vital pat of the game, stop using the stupid term player killer. Eve is a manufacturing and mining game, the term 'carebear' is completely stupid. Other games where you have neither blueprints nor roids, yes you can use the term carebear, but not in EVE. Carebearing is a vital pat [sic] of the game, stop using the stupid term Carebear. --
Balklanac Freezoner	Posted - 2006.08.30 17:02:00 - [21] I tell you what , I kill someones NPC/mining ship and they call me an *******, I kill someones PvP ship and they say gf. --------- I would love to see a bounty pilot get some friend or an alt to pod them to collect the isk if that resulted in a two week delay before their 'personality' was uploaded to a new clone.
Commander Thrawn Fluffy rabbit killer's inc	Posted - 2006.08.30 17:10:00 - [22] pk is a stupid term this is a pvp game, so ya ppl are gonna kill ppl if i see someone using Pk in local, i'll try to gank him
Dekiri Useless Inc.	Posted - 2006.08.30 17:18:00 - [23] A player killer is a person that kills players. That is the origin of the word player killer. When you talk about "gaming history" i would like to point you over to the early UO where the term lived the first years of its public life. UO back then was a pvp game as well. You could kill anyone anywhere (except in cities .. well you could .. technically) so the setting was very similar to eve. There are at least as many people who never "PK" in eve as there where in UO back then and it is probably still at a healthy ratio. For some reason some people have a problem killing players, because they don't like to hurt other people or their achievements or can't se the joy of others crying.Maybe those are just the nicer people. As in UO you can loot "blank" in eve. In UO you where either red or blue. You could be PK or Anti-PK (wich is not the same as red or blue btw). But in the end everyone that was red was a PK and naming them was defined by them killing players. So stop talking about it "coming from people who play carebear games" as well. UO was even meaner then eve in its early days and i know of some EQ servers(hello sullon zek <3 ) that where even meaner. People have used this term from the beginning of eve btw, because it just works out to call a person that kills players "player killer". (try and do some forum mining if you don't believe me ... if anything this term is LESS used now) -------------- My dad can beat up your dad! Support lowsec!
Juwi Kotch Gallente VIRTUAL LIFE VANGUARD	Posted - 2006.08.30 17:41:00 - [24] Originally by: Labtest FFS! EVE is a pvp game, the term 'player killer' is completely stupid. Other games where you pick flowers and hold hands, yes you can use the term pk, but not in EVE. Killing eachother is a vital pat of the game, stop using the stupid term player killer. No one hardly used this term earlier, however as the subscribers increased and we got more fantasy mmorpg's coming from carebear games we saw the increase in people using this term. STOP IT! Well, I came from the only pure PvP shard of Ultima Online. Players who randomly kill other players just because they can do so, are PKs. That is in EVE the case just as in UO. Pilots who fit cargo scanners, scramble ships to pin them down, and demand a ransom, are Pirates. Those are a rarity in EVE. Juwi Kotch
Labtest	Posted - 2006.08.30 18:01:00 - [25] Originally by: Juwi Kotch Pilots who fit cargo scanners, scramble ships to pin them down, and demand a ransom, are Pirates. Those are a rarity in EVE. Juwi Kotch Stupidest thing I've ever heard. Im laughing at the setup/tactic you mention there. The only ones using cargo scanners are Empire suicide squads.
Juwi Kotch Gallente VIRTUAL LIFE VANGUARD	Posted - 2006.08.30 18:11:00 - [26] Edited by: Juwi Kotch on 30/08/2006 18:11:50 Originally by: Labtest Originally by: Juwi Kotch Pilots who fit cargo scanners, scramble ships to pin them down, and demand a ransom, are Pirates. Those are a rarity in EVE. Juwi Kotch Stupidest thing I've ever heard. Im laughing at the setup/tactic you mention there. The only ones using cargo scanners are Empire suicide squads. Being a pirate can be challenging. Being a PK not. Juwi Kotch
Labtest	Posted - 2006.08.30 18:12:00 - [27] Edited by: Labtest on 30/08/2006 18:12:32 Originally by: Juwi Kotch Originally by: Labtest Originally by: Juwi Kotch Pilots who fit cargo scanners, scramble ships to pin them down, and demand a ransom, are Pirates. Those are a rarity in EVE. Juwi Kotch What do you base your definition of 'pirate' on? Stupidest thing I've ever heard. Im laughing at the setup/tactic you mention there. The only ones using cargo scanners are Empire suicide squads. Being a pirate is challenging. Being a PK not. Juwi Kotch What do you base your definition of pirate on?
Juwi Kotch Gallente VIRTUAL LIFE VANGUARD	Posted - 2006.08.30 18:31:00 - [28] Edited by: Juwi Kotch on 30/08/2006 18:32:05 doublepost...
Juwi Kotch Gallente VIRTUAL LIFE VANGUARD	Posted - 2006.08.30 18:32:00 - [29] Originally by: Labtest What do you base your definition of pirate on? Pirates are going for ISK, not for kills. Pirates don't kill, when no ISK can be earned. PKs are out for kills, ISK are just an add-on. Pirates have no interest in killing empty ships without expensive mods. They don't waste ammo just to kill rookies, shuttles, or empty haulers, who do not drop any useful loot. PKs do. PKs kill pods per default, pirates do that only when a ransom is not paid, cause a pod kill earns them no money and no loot. Therefore a pirate needs an equipement enabling him to pin down a ship or a pod. You can't efficiently ransom a ship or a pod which you cannot pin down. Since you can't shoot a ship unmanouverable, shooting at a low HP ship is always shooting to kill, cause you do not have time to negotiate a ransom. Two volleys, and the frigate is toast. Therefore pirates don't shoot at low HP ships, which they cannot pin down, unless they have a good idea that it might drop good loot. This do they get by using ship and cargo scanners. PKs don't need that in fact, they are equipped for the most efficient kill, they do not ask for ransoms, they just want to increase their killboard count. That's the differences between a pirate and a PK. We are not talking about mercenaries or wars here. Juwi Kotch
Commander Thrawn Fluffy rabbit killer's inc	Posted - 2006.08.30 19:01:00 - [30] Originally by: Labtest Originally by: Juwi Kotch Originally by: Labtest What do you base your definition of pirate on? Pirates are going for ISK, not for kills. Pirates don't kill, when no ISK can be earned. Again, what do you base your definition of pirate on? A shuttle can have a t2 bpo in its cargohold. I think you would have made a very poor pirate. signed, he clearly doesn't understand how the current state of how pirating works. Best to pop a target and hope for a good drop then to ransom(which he probably wont pay) and wait for his blob to come in and gank you. Also ransoming is really only valid when killing miners or ratters(belt piracy). If your camping a gate, you kinda have sentries to worry about so pop goes the ship. Doesn't mean im a "pk" ffs; means I'm a freaking pirate and I will do what I want to do to make my isks.

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