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Yellowan Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2006.08.30 14:55:00 - [1] Edited by: Yellowan on 30/08/2006 14:55:52 Query So who's the Most Dread Pirate in Eve? Now? All Time? And Why? .
Kilo Paskaa Thugs 4 less	Posted - 2006.08.30 14:58:00 - [2] Originally by: Yellowan Edited by: Yellowan on 30/08/2006 14:55:52 Query So who's the Most Dread Pirate in Eve? Now? All Time? And Why? . Well skywalker uses dreadnaught to pirate
Jah'Ret Khan StateCorp Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.08.30 15:31:00 - [3] Me. Because I do it one handed ************************** We go ZOOM-ZOOM! You go BOOM-BOOM!
ASIV TRE Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.08.30 15:37:00 - [4] Originally by: Kilo Paskaa Originally by: Yellowan Edited by: Yellowan on 30/08/2006 14:55:52 Query So who's the Most Dread Pirate in Eve? Now? All Time? And Why? . Well skywalker uses dreadnaught to pirate Hes also quite handy at losing them
Benedict Carol	Posted - 2006.08.30 15:59:00 - [5] Wait for it...... Wait for it..... (/me waits for Ginger Magician to post....)
Verus Potestas Caldari Fiat Mort	Posted - 2006.08.30 16:15:00 - [6] Tank or Verone are probably most famous.
Dread PirateRoberts	Posted - 2006.08.30 16:36:00 - [7] If your talking about most dread pirate... well just at my name. Good work. Sleep well. I'll most likely kill you in the morning.
Fred 104 1st Royal Marines	Posted - 2006.08.30 16:58:00 - [8] Originally by: Dread PirateRoberts If your talking about most dread pirate... well just at my name. ^^ Winner
Tristan Acoma Caldari The Eleventh Commandment	Posted - 2006.08.30 17:05:00 - [9] Originally by: Fred 104 Originally by: Dread PirateRoberts If your talking about most dread pirate... well just at my name. ^^ Winner /signed Westley: Give us the gate key. Yellin: I have no gate key. Inigo Montoya: Fezzik, tear his arms off. Yellin: Oh, you mean this gate key. Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes, ty - Cortes
Karash Amerius Amarr O.E.C	Posted - 2006.08.30 17:09:00 - [10] Still Verone...although I have never had the pleasure of meeting him in space. Merc Blog
X'Alor	Posted - 2006.08.30 17:11:00 - [11] Lord Gank the one all the rest followed. i think he still maintains a perfect -10
AltTastic	Posted - 2006.08.30 17:16:00 - [12] Originally by: Benedict Carol Wait for it...... Wait for it..... (/me waits for Ginger Magician to post....) Makes sense, he's the best pvper in the game right? I believe everything I read in peoples' Bio.
Engrish pirate	Posted - 2006.08.30 18:16:00 - [13] I'd say Lord Zap, just by going by fame.
hUssmann Caldari Veto.	Posted - 2006.08.30 18:39:00 - [14] Originally by: Karash Amerius Still Verone...although I have never had the pleasure of meeting him in space. Good for you, i have to sit on vent and listen to him say cake, it's like nails on a chalkboard i swear ___________________________ Free wigs/hair for caldari baldies, Imaran get in line!
Burakus	Posted - 2006.08.30 19:20:00 - [15] Lyticus __________ So awesome my head exploded: http://youtube.com/watch?v=C88x9NvpxvQ&search=lazytown%20dream%20a%20dream
Baji Core	Posted - 2006.08.30 19:33:00 - [16] Probably Tank CEO... pirating in a carrier is just class
Teh Trader	Posted - 2006.08.30 19:36:00 - [17] Are there any pirates that regularly pirate in dreadnaughts still?
Benglada Finite Horizon	Posted - 2006.08.30 19:58:00 - [18] Edited by: Benglada on 30/08/2006 19:58:23 lol a typical chat with verone Someone: HOSTILES ON THE OTHER SIDE Verone: I NEED TO **. Someone:woot i killed him. Verone:I need to again. =urinate. --------------------------- Originally by:** Arkanor 0.0 is the Final Frontier. Bring money and friends.
Verus Potestas Caldari Fiat Mort	Posted - 2006.08.30 20:10:00 - [19] Edited by: Verus Potestas on 30/08/2006 20:09:56 Originally by: Baji Core Probably Tank CEO... NPCing in a multi-WCS carrier is just class Fixed
welsh wizard Celestial Apocalypse	Posted - 2006.08.30 20:48:00 - [20] darth solo tbh
Samirol Ore Mongers	Posted - 2006.08.30 21:16:00 - [21] all gate snipers! they are so talented, and skilled at eve! /sarcasm Ore Mongers' 3rd lotto
5hakey The Led Zeppelins	Posted - 2006.08.30 21:50:00 - [22] Me No particular reason, I just frikkin rule Cryin' won't help you, Prayin' will do you no good
Verone	Posted - 2006.08.30 22:36:00 - [23] Originally by: Benglada lol a typical chat with verone Jack Daniel's makes me need a wee BACKSTORY AND FAN FICTION
ChalSto The Galactic Empire Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.08.30 23:32:00 - [24] I vote for tiller. He¦s still a nice guy and got balls (yea....fear the cnr-of-doom) (tooo bad it went pop ). Originally by: Verone Originally by: Benglada lol a typical chat with verone Jack Daniel's makes me need a wee indeed higs Me? I¦m just another guy in Local......but better u pay attention.....
Portios Smith Gallente Sanguine Legion Atrocitas	Posted - 2006.08.30 23:33:00 - [25] Edited by: Portios Smith on 30/08/2006 23:34:37 Don't think there is one "most" dreaded pirate EDITED: to agree with the post above. Under construction
Pestillence Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.08.30 23:33:00 - [26] Originally by: Verone Originally by: Benglada lol a typical chat with verone Jack Daniel's makes me need a wee dunno about the most feared pirate but you have reverted to the bestest sig in the history of EvE.
Yblarbo Janks Veto.	Posted - 2006.08.30 23:50:00 - [27] Edited by: Yblarbo Janks on 30/08/2006 23:51:05 Listening to Verone on Veto is like sitting in the bathroom stall listening to the tough kids smoking, farting, and talking lewdly about the captain of the cheerleading team - without the smoking. I'm sure this analogy was going somewhere but I lost the path. I just miss smoking in the bathroom so many years ago.
Malthros Zenobia Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Kimotoro Directive	Posted - 2006.08.31 00:02:00 - [28] Originally by: Verus Potestas Tank or Verone are probably most famous. I don't think Tank's nearly as well-known to us newer players as Verone though.
Hardin Amarr Imperial Shipment	Posted - 2006.08.31 01:40:00 - [29] Originally by: ASIV TRE Originally by: Kilo Paskaa Originally by: Yellowan Edited by: Yellowan on 30/08/2006 14:55:52 Query So who's the Most Dread Pirate in Eve? Now? All Time? And Why? . Well skywalker uses dreadnaught to pirate Hes also quite handy at losing them Aye \/ \/ \/ ------------------------------
Gamble Dakota Immortalis Silens	Posted - 2006.08.31 02:28:00 - [30] I vote for the glory days of Suffoco Noctis. Malka Badi'a, Sicex, Suuji Prath, Hashim, Fade Routha etc... An all star team of very effective scoundrels I had the pleasure of working with in their prime. Brutal and efficient, I don't know if there's ever been a massacre as long, dominant or bloody as the war NOCTS waged on Genesis earlier this year. No wussy gatesniping either. I shot a man in Reno... just to watch him die
Tbone Caldari Finite Horizon	Posted - 2006.08.31 03:22:00 - [31] Verone is a carebear. I have to listen to his whiney ass voice everyday. All he talks about is running agent missions, mining, escrows. This is on his alt. No one ever sees the actuall char Verone undock. If you did, something is wrong. ----------------------------------------------- Finite Horizon
Belladonna Nightshade	Posted - 2006.08.31 06:51:00 - [32] Originally by: Gamble Dakota I vote for the glory days of Suffoco Noctis. Malka Badi'a, Sicex, Suuji Prath, Hashim, Fade Routha etc... An all star team of very effective scoundrels I had the pleasure of working with in their prime. Brutal and efficient, I don't know if there's ever been a massacre as long, dominant or bloody as the war NOCTS waged on Genesis earlier this year. No wussy gatesniping either. Hear Hear Whoever Malka is these days I am sure they are up to no good... Deleting Malka was a great blow to the community. They always were a source of inspiration to me.
Lucian Alucard Caldari Forsaken Empire	Posted - 2006.08.31 07:18:00 - [33] Lordmix or Tank Ceo,I think Tank still has the most kill mails of any player in the game. My only regret is going out with a whimper and not guns blazing.
Benglada Finite Auxiliary	Posted - 2006.08.31 07:30:00 - [34] tank ceo ikvar and verone are the three most famous. --------------------------- Originally by: Arkanor 0.0 is the Final Frontier. Bring money and friends.
Verus Potestas Caldari Fiat Mort	Posted - 2006.08.31 16:02:00 - [35] Originally by: Malthros Zenobia Originally by: Verus Potestas Tank or Verone are probably most famous. I don't think Tank's nearly as well-known to us newer players as Verone though. Only because Verone is still on the forums
Verus Potestas Caldari Fiat Mort	Posted - 2006.08.31 16:05:00 - [36] Originally by: Belladonna Nightshade Originally by: Gamble Dakota I vote for the glory days of Suffoco Noctis. Malka Badi'a, Sicex, Suuji Prath, Hashim, Fade Routha etc... An all star team of very effective scoundrels I had the pleasure of working with in their prime. Brutal and efficient, I don't know if there's ever been a massacre as long, dominant or bloody as the war NOCTS waged on Genesis earlier this year. No wussy gatesniping either. Hear Hear Whoever Malka is these days I am sure they are up to no good... Deleting Malka was a great blow to the community. They always were a source of inspiration to me. Malka has been recreated and is back in Suffoco Noctis.
Ikvar Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.08.31 17:53:00 - [37] I know it's old hat, but everyone must know that the best pirate in the game is Daniel Jackson and the best pirate victim in the game is Wuubaa.
Marcus TheMartin Gallente StarShadow Industries	Posted - 2006.08.31 18:37:00 - [38] Never had any experiences with the big pirates of EVE but seeing Verone's sig makes me think of him as a big one lol The Best Thing I've ever seen in local chat [15:17:21] sotmassacer > can someone give me a big battleship for a while
Razor Jaxx Blind Vengeance	Posted - 2006.08.31 19:16:00 - [39] Originally by: Roule You not heard? Tanks a big carebear nowadays... Didnt the original sell the account? He'd post himself if he wasn't banned but ... No. - [ BL1ND killboard ]
Hamatitio Caldari Sniggerdly	Posted - 2006.08.31 19:48:00 - [40] He's been banned from the forums for 2 years now, yet his legend lives on. That is the show of true piracy. --- Originally by: All Pirates Yarr.
Verus Potestas Caldari Fiat Mort	Posted - 2006.08.31 20:07:00 - [41] Edited by: Verus Potestas on 31/08/2006 20:08:20 Convo, when this controversial issue was put to tank: Tank CEO > hey Participant1 Participant1 > yeah? Tank CEO > is ur whole corp full of dumbasses? Tank CEO > to even think they even know who i am? Participant1 > evreyone in eve thinks that Tank CEO > thinks what Participant2 > tank wuubs me Participant1 > you arn't the original tank Participant2 > iisnt he?> Tank CEO > lolz Participant1 > i don't ***** know Participant2 > lol Participant1 > i just know everyone says he isn't Participant2 > tank Tank CEO > everyone is a in idiot.. Participant2 > give me on a level of 1 to 10 on how * it was when u were in stain space and the corp was innactive Tank CEO > but im actually glad im thought of and people debate wether or not im the real tank Tank CEO > but I dont find it necessary to bring it up Participant1** > you don't have to Names changed to protect the guilty.
tiller Beer and Kebabs Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2006.08.31 20:12:00 - [42] It's me. Can a GM please close thread now. Click me for Pirate Coalition Website of Gankage
Jazz Bo Caldari Plan 9 from Outer Space	Posted - 2006.08.31 21:16:00 - [43] Originally by: Ikvar I know it's old hat, but everyone must know that the best pirate in the game is Daniel Jackson and the best pirate victim in the game is Wuubaa. Wuuuu-baaa! I've always liked saying that. Pew pew... ka-boom.... pew pew.... squisssh!
Corvus Dove Caldari The Path of Now and Forever	Posted - 2006.08.31 21:28:00 - [44] I vote tank. I've met Verone in space and survived. Never done that with Tank. ------------------------------------ I like long walks, a good book before bed, and human entrails served cold with a side order of scrap metal.
operated Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2006.08.31 21:33:00 - [45] Id have to say niobe , most ppl say verone or ikvar but ikvar in merc coalition now he doesnt pirate anymore , verone well im sure he might be good but how many ppl met him , niobe on other hand , i know and he keeps doiing his thing wich is in the the true sense of pirating killing ppl while losing no ship ever .
Syris Anu Evolutionary Pressure	Posted - 2006.08.31 21:56:00 - [46] The best combat pilot I have flown with is: Lyticus Who also happens to be a pirate, or at least was at the time.
Verone	Posted - 2006.08.31 22:11:00 - [47] Zarquon Beeblebrox, no competition. BACKSTORY AND FAN FICTION
Kaleeb Celestial Apocalypse	Posted - 2006.08.31 22:34:00 - [48] No offense to the current crop of pirates but I dont think you live up to the standards of your Predecessors. Verone is a nice bloke and will always be a mate but havent fought him to tell u his combat abilities. But he is prob the most famous these days (forum *** ) As for old school then Cro Ramel, Zarquon, M0o guys, Tinuk, USA4, Carthago the list goes on... Originally by:** Blacklight Last night was an 'anomoly' for different reasons that have absolutely nothing to do with skill or who were the better pvpers.
Benedict Carol	Posted - 2006.08.31 22:38:00 - [49] Originally by: tiller It's me. Can a GM please close thread now. heh - you've created a monster!
Rhivanna	Posted - 2006.08.31 23:08:00 - [50] Originally by: Benedict Carol Wait for it...... Wait for it..... (/me waits for Ginger Magician to post....) Haha. I just got killed by him today...course I was the dumbass sitting by a gate studying my map too...although he didn't have to pod kill me :(
Verone	Posted - 2006.08.31 23:12:00 - [51] Edited by: Verone on 31/08/2006 23:12:21 Originally by: Kaleeb No offense to the current crop of pirates but I dont think you live up to the standards of your Predecessors. Verone is a nice bloke and will always be a mate but havent fought him to tell u his combat abilities. But he is prob the most famous these days (forum *** ) As for old school then Cro Ramel, Zarquon, M0o guys, Tinuk, USA4, Carthago the list goes on... I remember supplying you with Kestrels and Caracals to get blown upwhen you were a whipper snapper... Kaleeb is teh win, no one else compares <3 (Edit: Apart from Zarquon Beeblebrox... ) BACKSTORY AND FAN FICTION**
Kaleeb Celestial Apocalypse	Posted - 2006.09.01 09:31:00 - [52] I miss those days of u in your apoc trying to get me to help u mine in ikami and instead I would lose another caracal to 0.5 belt rats as my mids were fitted with ship scanners and cap batteries Originally by: Blacklight Last night was an 'anomoly' for different reasons that have absolutely nothing to do with skill or who were the better pvpers.
Hardin Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2006.09.01 10:29:00 - [53] I have fought both Tank (as Hardin in Sarum) and Verone (as Siobhan back in his Snigg days) and survived on both occasions. Therefore I must be the most dread pi.... ...hmmmm just realised I aint a pirate... Amarr Victor ------------------------------
Nyssa Dakalsai Cosmic Heavy Industries	Posted - 2006.09.01 10:48:00 - [54] Iknoob's a carebear now (and after talking to him i can never take him as a serious pirate) Verone, well Verone used to touch a friend of mine, nuff said. I went hunting for Tank CEO a few years back, but i couldnt lock him down(nothing to do with stabs tho, he was just a crafty bastard trying to stay alive) As for mixy, i have to give it to the old ASS crew, they killed me first and made me ****e in my pants the first proper battle we had My Raven went down so fast... But after flying with him, hes a cool guy.so LordMix 4TW
Alliaanna Dalaii Gallente Does Not Compute	Posted - 2006.09.01 11:06:00 - [55] Originally by: Gamble Dakota I vote for the glory days of Suffoco Noctis. Malka Badi'a, Sicex, Suuji Prath, Hashim, Fade Routha etc... An all star team of very effective scoundrels I had the pleasure of working with in their prime. Brutal and efficient, I don't know if there's ever been a massacre as long, dominant or bloody as the war NOCTS waged on Genesis earlier this year. No wussy gatesniping either. Just LOL, The above named players are no offence... nobodies. Malka I liked in the beginning because his posts where amusing. Then after seeing his Tower Shield crap that he was sticking on his poor Prophecy all respect was lost. Oh that and they suck, And No I haven't been ganked by them Alliaanna DNC Treasure Hunt !!
Haloe Minmatar Yakuza Corp R i s e	Posted - 2006.09.01 11:08:00 - [56] Edited by: Haloe on 01/09/2006 11:11:10 There are so few pirates who engage in solo ship vs ship these days - and those are the only ones I can respect. It's very hard to show any love for blob gankers and WCS-***** snipers. So, only four come to mind: - Handon Guild - Slarti - Skywalker (he blobs often but has no qualms about solo) - tiller (see Skywalker) The rest won't even try engage unless they have backup of 6 or 7 corp-mates. True piracy, to be fair, is all about the sure thing (don't engage unless you're sure you can win). But for the 'fearsome dread pirate' I only fear the guys who have real solo ability. Edit - can't count - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - I give up on this sig nonsense.
Verus Potestas Caldari Fiat Mort	Posted - 2006.09.01 11:13:00 - [57] Originally by: Ikvar I know it's old hat, but everyone must know that the best pirate in the game is Daniel Jackson and the best pirate victim in the game is Wuubaa. Can someone explain this incident or give me a link? I've had experience with (laughing at) DJ, but I've never encountere Wuubaa. Can someone please explain? I feel so young Hey that sig reminds me of my tempest - Xorus
Captain Hudson Caldari Bravehearts	Posted - 2006.09.01 11:38:00 - [58] LifeWire. He still makes me **** myself when i see him enter local ]
Fitz Chivalry eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.09.01 11:47:00 - [59] If you fly a stabbabond you automatically disqualify yourself from consideration. The only pirate that causes any "fear" is ign0ramus and thats just because he is flying a 30bn isk mothership that you have exactly zero chance to kill. The rest I have ever seen are not better or worse or much different to your average alliance gank squad IMO.
Rawthorm Gallente The Establishment Establishment	Posted - 2006.09.01 15:57:00 - [60] Edited by: Rawthorm on 01/09/2006 15:57:14 Originally by: Fitz Chivalry If you fly a stabbabond you automatically disqualify yourself from consideration. The only pirate that causes any "fear" is ign0ramus and thats just because he is flying a 30bn isk mothership that you have exactly zero chance to kill. The rest I have ever seen are not better or worse or much different to your average alliance gank squad IMO. YARR! As for the "Zero chance to kill" comment tho, I can't say ASCN has really stood its ground and fought against it. (you had a chance once where you all legged it and left your mate in a Navy mega to die) Remember the first step to success is to try!
Requiescat Crest Tech Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2006.09.01 16:09:00 - [61] Dentara Rast - pirating wallets is still pirating lol Originally by: "Crest Tech FTW"
Ariadiana	Posted - 2006.09.01 17:51:00 - [62] I have never met the chap but surely Ginger Magician must be a great pirate judging by the slatings he gets on these forums! He seems to have loads of bitter enemies - presumably most of them victims. Various peeps claim to have killed him and in the same breath claim he had six or seven stabs fitted. How did they catch him I wonder?
Vurg Nubs. Black Reign Syndicate	Posted - 2006.09.01 18:19:00 - [63] Originally by: Ariadiana I have never met the chap but surely Ginger Magician must be a great pirate judging by the slatings he gets on these forums! He seems to have loads of bitter enemies - presumably most of them victims. Various peeps claim to have killed him and in the same breath claim he had six or seven stabs fitted. How did they catch him I wonder? Ginger is hated by everyone 'cause he's a pillock. Not because he has any skill. Well...because you ask so nicely....scribble -Kaemonn All your sig are belong to us - Xorus
Malthros Zenobia Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Kimotoro Directive	Posted - 2006.09.01 18:35:00 - [64] Originally by: Requiescat Dentara Rast - pirating wallets is still pirating lol Idiots giving away money is not pirating. Sorry you can't afford a dev so you get me instead ^^ - Xorus
Borg Fusion The Lost Souls Blood of the Innocents	Posted - 2006.09.01 18:42:00 - [65] Originally by: X'Alor Edited by: X''Alor on 30/08/2006 17:16:30 Lord Gank i think he still maintains a perfect -10 Tank CEO was always a big meanie too, don't see tank making the news once a week anymore. one time at a gate camp in yulia .... Tank CEO has already proved to be one of the most dominated pirates in the history of EVE, because hes been away for some time (inactive) doesnt mean he is forgotten. There ae only a handful of pilots who made "pirating" something in eve, not some dude who all of a sudden decides to be a pirate. Corpse Collection
Mathias Orsen Gold-dust	Posted - 2006.09.01 21:28:00 - [66] I'd mark gank gangers and gate campers off the list. The ones to worry about are the those that pirate solo 100% of the time. As far as who actually is the most dread pirate..... well It's most likely someone that is only known by those he killed. Notority is all that can count here. I Have to give my vote to a corp not a single player... M0o gets it. No Idea what happen to these guys but I feared the corp and never even got to see one of them. ---"What's in your wallet?"--- "There are two kinds of respect, fear and admiration.... I'll take what I can get"
Skywalker Minmatar MAFIA Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2006.09.01 22:23:00 - [67] Well skywalker uses dreadnaught to pirate Hes also quite handy at losing them I lost 2 Dreads, the last one was 3 days ago. I was playing with CVA's, letting them pound me, while i was waiting to see if they had any capital ship backups. I didn't fire a single shot during 5+ minutes, so they got a cheap kill there. The last loss was the worste one, since i was unable to activate armor repairers or dock (although i got docking request text), this was because of lag issues and occured at the same day CCP announced on the news that there was network problems. So im hoping to get the dread back through my petitetion.
Ginger Magician Minmatar OctoberSnow Corp	Posted - 2006.09.01 23:34:00 - [68] Check the fifth post in this thread.There is the answer to your question. And move on from pointless threads to soemthing more interesting perhaps?
Yello1	Posted - 2006.09.02 07:07:00 - [69] well uraniumcore1 got my Itty tonight but was kind enough not to pod me Thats semi dreaded Chat was on about a Sharkey36 with a 100 billion bounty on him in corp chat tonight. Thats pretty dreaded! Quote: Yes, Im THAT Yello1
Plim Gallente Celestial Apocalypse	Posted - 2006.09.02 08:22:00 - [70] Originally by: Ginger Magician Check the fifth post in this thread.There is the answer to your question. And move on from pointless threads to soemthing more interesting perhaps? You are possibly the most feared pirate in the realm of sentence construction. The lack of spaces after full stops still scares me. Seriously wtf is that all about? It has me scratching my head every time you post. ----------------- Victory or death! ... knitting is also an option.
Pestillence Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.09.02 15:36:00 - [71] Originally by: Ginger Magician Check the fifth post in this thread.There is the answer to your question. And move on from pointless threads to soemthing more interesting perhaps? Number 65 hit the nail on the head.
Saerid Amarr FinFleet Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.09.02 16:16:00 - [72] Dreaded pirate nowadays... I'd say Ign0ramus. Doesn't need much explaining if you know what he does. Overall... Verone, Tank , Lifewire. Some come across as bit too nice guys to qualify as dreaded , just funny guys who like their shooty shooty.
IamBen Caldari M. Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.09.02 16:20:00 - [73] No such thing as a "dreaded pirate" in EvE. How can someone who runs away the second a fight comes and uses stabs on a sniping battleship be "dreaded"?
Verus Potestas Caldari Fiat Mort	Posted - 2006.09.02 16:51:00 - [74] Originally by: IamBen No such thing as a "dreaded pirate" in EvE. How can someone who runs away the second a fight comes and uses stabs on a sniping battleship be "dreaded"? Ginger Magician is not the only pirate in eve Signature removed - please email to find out why (include a link to the original image) - Jacques([email protected])
Nervar Exotic Dancers Club	Posted - 2006.09.02 16:59:00 - [75] Any of the oldtimers from teddy glad most of them are still in dancers these days
IamBen Caldari M. Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.09.02 17:33:00 - [76] Originally by: Verus Potestas Originally by: IamBen No such thing as a "dreaded pirate" in EvE. How can someone who runs away the second a fight comes and uses stabs on a sniping battleship be "dreaded"? Ginger Magician is not the only pirate in eve Really?
Verus Potestas Caldari Fiat Mort	Posted - 2006.09.02 17:39:00 - [77] Don't believe him when he says he is Signature removed - please email to find out why (include a link to the original image) - Jacques([email protected])
Gamble Dakota Immortalis Silens	Posted - 2006.09.02 18:02:00 - [78] Originally by: Alliaanna Dalaii Originally by: Gamble Dakota I vote for the glory days of Suffoco Noctis. Malka Badi'a, Sicex, Suuji Prath, Hashim, Fade Routha etc... An all star team of very effective scoundrels I had the pleasure of working with in their prime. Brutal and efficient, I don't know if there's ever been a massacre as long, dominant or bloody as the war NOCTS waged on Genesis earlier this year. No wussy gatesniping either. Just LOL, The above named players are no offence... nobodies. Malka I liked in the beginning because his posts where amusing. Then after seeing his Tower Shield crap that he was sticking on his poor Prophecy all respect was lost. Oh that and they suck, And No I haven't been ganked by them Alliaanna Just because they aren't all forum**** doesn't mean they're nobodies. Just because they don't blather continously to boost their own egos doesn't mean they suck. In fact, it's those same traits that don't make you take notice of them until it's too late. Also what part of "No wussy gatesniping" did you miss? Nearly every other pirate named in this thread got their fame through continous self advertisment and massive amount of gatesniping. I'm truly sorry that you'll take infamy over actual skill, but that's not my problem. ---Edit--- HAHAHAHA Ohgod. I just realized that you're former RHN. YOu guys are an embarassment to the pirate community, and in case you didn't remember, it was NOCTS that ganked your dread while you yokels were farting around with it. Oops, egoneedle. I shot a man in Reno... just to watch him die**
Razor Jaxx Blind Vengeance	Posted - 2006.09.02 18:12:00 - [79] Most dreaded I don't know. Most (in)famous, probably Tank on sheer notoriety. Most creative / funny, I'd have to say Viceroy, though Verone seems to be a worthy heir. Jexter & fist were legendary pilots with the proper pirate RP to boot. There are a lot more worth mentioning, old F-E, SPVD, Zombies, TDG, Teddies, Snigg, Spang, DNA, Sinister, and, of course, m0o, and I'm probably forgetting a lot. - [ BL1ND killboard ]
Malthros Zenobia Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Kimotoro Directive	Posted - 2006.09.02 20:41:00 - [80] Originally by: Ginger Magician Check the fifth post in this thread.There is the answer to your question. And move on from pointless threads to soemthing more interesting perhaps? The answer is some guy waiting for nublet magician to post? Yes, you're so feared that you were recently kicked from a corp you had joined, oh wait no they kicked you because you dirtied their name. Sorry you can't afford a dev so you get me instead ^^ - Xorus
Malthros Zenobia Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Kimotoro Directive	Posted - 2006.09.02 20:42:00 - [81] Originally by: Verus Potestas Originally by: IamBen No such thing as a "dreaded pirate" in EvE. How can someone who runs away the second a fight comes and uses stabs on a sniping battleship be "dreaded"? Ginger Magician is not the only pirate in eve Sure he is. That's the only possible way he can be the best pirate in EVE. Sorry you can't afford a dev so you get me instead ^^ - Xorus
Ginger Magician Minmatar OctoberSnow Corp	Posted - 2006.09.03 12:00:00 - [82] Malthros do u ever leave 0.5 and above space? Please let me know cause 50mill is a lot of isk to waste ok
Cohkka LoneWolf Mining R i s e	Posted - 2006.09.03 15:33:00 - [83] Originally by: Fitz Chivalry The rest I have ever seen are not better or worse or much different to your average alliance gank squad IMO. So Burn eden didn't beat the crap out of you? Don't speak english, just F5, F5, F5...
Malthros Zenobia Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Kimotoro Directive	Posted - 2006.09.03 16:37:00 - [84] Originally by: Ginger Magician Malthros do u ever leave 0.5 and above space? Please let me know cause 50mill is a lot of isk to waste ok When I actually have time to play, yes. Do you ever leave gates and fit something in your lows other than stabs? Sorry you can't afford a dev so you get me instead ^^ - Xorus I hear Xorus is only 50 isk an hour - Immy
AKULA UrQuan Caldari	Posted - 2006.09.03 17:36:00 - [85] Originally by: Fitz Chivalry If you fly a stabbabond you automatically disqualify yourself from consideration. The only pirate that causes any "fear" is ign0ramus and thats just because he is flying a 30bn isk mothership that you have exactly zero chance to kill. The rest I have ever seen are not better or worse or much different to your average alliance gank squad IMO. Nothing is imortal. You just have to be willing to suck up 30b isk in losses to kill that nyx. Originally by: Wrangler Win ME is more a some sort of virus than a OS..
Mad Mackem E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2006.09.03 18:15:00 - [86] Nowadays it's Verone <3 Past, got to be Jexter and Fist. Always shat myself when i saw them in local. Regards
Siege Minmatar Siegecraft Bounty Hunting	Posted - 2006.09.03 21:04:00 - [87] What? An 'All-time' conversation, and nobody mentions LeeLoo (I forget how it was spelled, it's been a LONG time).
Alliaanna Dalaii Gallente Does Not Compute	Posted - 2006.09.04 07:01:00 - [88] Originally by: Gamble Dakota Originally by: Alliaanna Dalaii Originally by: Gamble Dakota I vote for the glory days of Suffoco Noctis. Malka Badi'a, Sicex, Suuji Prath, Hashim, Fade Routha etc... An all star team of very effective scoundrels I had the pleasure of working with in their prime. Brutal and efficient, I don't know if there's ever been a massacre as long, dominant or bloody as the war NOCTS waged on Genesis earlier this year. No wussy gatesniping either. Just LOL, The above named players are no offence... nobodies. Malka I liked in the beginning because his posts where amusing. Then after seeing his Tower Shield crap that he was sticking on his poor Prophecy all respect was lost. Oh that and they suck, And No I haven't been ganked by them Alliaanna Just because they aren't all forum**** doesn't mean they're nobodies. Just because they don't blather continously to boost their own egos doesn't mean they suck. In fact, it's those same traits that don't make you take notice of them until it's too late. Also what part of "No wussy gatesniping" did you miss? Nearly every other pirate named in this thread got their fame through continous self advertisment and massive amount of gatesniping. I'm truly sorry that you'll take infamy over actual skill, but that's not my problem. ---Edit--- HAHAHAHA Ohgod. I just realized that you're former RHN. YOu guys are an embarassment to the pirate community, and in case you didn't remember, it was NOCTS that ganked your dread while you yokels were farting around with it. Oops, egoneedle. Did I lose a dread, No Was I there ?, No Did I state being a forum * was pre-requirement for being notorious, No. So frankly run along, I stated they suck for the simple reason they do. The fact that every NOCT bs I rolled into 1 on 1 they died....... Hence believing they suck. Oh and becuase i'm former RHN i'm an embarrassment to the Pirate Community Right.... So come fight me and show me what a fool I am Something tells me you wont. Alliaanna** DNC Treasure Hunt !!
Kaleeb Celestial Apocalypse	Posted - 2006.09.04 09:01:00 - [89] If anyone even thinks Malka was a dreaded pirate end your self its embarasing to the comunity. Before my post turns into a flame i`ll explain alittle.. Malka at first made some ok'ish points and guides for noobs and admitingly he was reasonably useful until his tower setup rubbish which was just someone else's setup with a different name. Ingame I never saw the guy in anything more than a punisher killing/ransoming the odd t1 cruiser etc nothing to be dreaded about tbh. RHN werent good either when confronted with equal numbers they fell apart (logging in/working together) and i`ll never forgive armageddon or your other members for their logofski's in combat Originally by: Blacklight Last night was an 'anomoly' for different reasons that have absolutely nothing to do with skill or who were the better pvpers.
Thut'ankh Amon Veto.	Posted - 2006.09.04 10:36:00 - [90] Originally by: Kaleeb If anyone even thinks Malka was a dreaded pirate end your self its embarasing to the comunity. Before my post turns into a flame i`ll explain alittle.. Malka at first made some ok'ish points and guides for noobs and admitingly he was reasonably useful until his tower setup rubbish which was just someone else's setup with a different name. Ingame I never saw the guy in anything more than a punisher killing/ransoming the odd t1 cruiser etc nothing to be dreaded about tbh. QFT his posts were amusing to read, chatting with him was also nice. that said - ive met him in space, fought him and found his pvp skills lacking. There can be only one Amon
Peter Stuyvesant Amarr	Posted - 2006.09.04 10:58:00 - [91] Zarquon Beeblebrox deserves a mention.
Hast Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.09.04 11:27:00 - [92] Plim and Darth... and ofc Lodhi... filthy pierats
Kaleeb Celestial Apocalypse	Posted - 2006.09.04 11:36:00 - [93] I should also mention zarc is coming back but is going to join bob Originally by: Blacklight Last night was an 'anomoly' for different reasons that have absolutely nothing to do with skill or who were the better pvpers.
Alliaanna Dalaii Gallente Does Not Compute	Posted - 2006.09.04 11:37:00 - [94] Just a reply to Kaleeb, and I wont smack lol. Arma and cow cant be blamed for being prone to not logging in for durations of time. Blame the RaF Ok Arma can be blamed for logging... enough said on that matter lol, He doesn't deny it And without Arma no one has any leadership. I allways used to fly solo or with 1-2 of the lads, And any Op with me in it was more likely to result in Civil War than actually fighting the oposition Alliaanna DNC Treasure Hunt !!
Kaleeb Celestial Apocalypse	Posted - 2006.09.04 15:17:00 - [95] Yeah I remember 1 of your guys telling me they were Raf guys, so how come u robbed them? Originally by: Blacklight Last night was an 'anomoly' for different reasons that have absolutely nothing to do with skill or who were the better pvpers.
Alliaanna Dalaii Gallente Does Not Compute	Posted - 2006.09.05 06:22:00 - [96] Originally by: Kaleeb Yeah I remember 1 of your guys telling me they were Raf guys, so how come u robbed them? Because they went carebear... Mission running and NPC'ing... Then we joined VC..... They seem to have moved back to Aring now though, I'm guessing VC finally died properly. Alliaanna DNC Treasure Hunt !!
Handon Guild Exotic Dancers Club	Posted - 2006.09.05 08:58:00 - [97] I have no personal experience with Ikvar, Verone Tenk CEO etc But to think that these guys share the top spot as pirates in the game, is a bit naive, considering the fact that is a hundred thousand players. No disrespect to these guys, they could very well be the elite, but I know a few players that might be just as good, although not so well known, due to lack of participation on the forums! I still think that Ryan Routine is the best solo-fighter I've ever met and I think Lifewire is the best strategist. I do not consider myself UBER, LEET or in any other way superior. I lose fights aswell as many others, and that's the way if you're in the pvp business. So, these posts are mostly, I guess, a wee hope of seeing one's name "nominated" as people's choice of pirate (TM) this month Let's just play the game, and pour some blood
Alpha Sentori Caldari Core Frontier Teleologies	Posted - 2006.09.05 09:00:00 - [98] On a personal note, m0o used to scare the crap out of me and reminded me of the Borg when they closed in on you. As for individuals, I've heard of the main candidates but on a personal note I will never forget being hunted by Joe's Load in a Torp Scorp when he was in Sticky Bandits and being finally wasted whilst trying to make it to a gate. I was young, inexperienced and shaking like a leaf as I ran for my life in a shiny new Caracal. As with most ealry losses I couldn't understand how he caught me, killed me, managed to tank the sentries and then laughed at me in local. I was truley frightened. Joe's, if you're watching, it was me that placed the offensively named can outside your station....I apologise! It was youth, inexperience and fear that made me do it... Alpha
Gericault m0id Contention Inc	Posted - 2006.09.05 13:01:00 - [99] Originally by: Alpha Sentori On a personal note, m0o used to scare the crap out of me and reminded me of the Borg when they closed in on you. I share this view. m0o used to scare the crap out me as a noob. As soon as I saw one in local it got my adrenalin kicking and I remember their excursions up in Yulai which I'd stay out of for fear of becoming a victim (this is long before I ever visited low sec). I remember the first lvl4 missions I did after Exodus and some of the pirate missions even mentioned m0o as the 'infamous pirates' . I wish devs could put more of that stuff in because it's really exciting as a new player to see that notoriety can be recreated not only on forums. As for pirates today. I'm not sure. I've been killed and been killed by many of the famous ones (S******dly, Veto, Turby's (famous?) etc.) and maybe the legend dies once you engage them. As for m0o: I never fought them but to me they'll always be uber
Talon Calais Gallente Nubs. Black Reign Syndicate	Posted - 2006.09.05 19:01:00 - [100] Always will be Ikvar.
Che Caldari Caldari Suck Vacuum	Posted - 2006.09.05 21:18:00 - [101] Originally by: Mad Mackem ...Past, got to be Jexter and Fist. Always shat myself when i saw them in local. Regards Yep Fist and Jexter were deadly. Btw I've just seen Fist in PB
Kaleeb Celestial Apocalypse	Posted - 2006.09.05 21:21:00 - [102] yep and jexter will be back shortly, jokers are back fyi Originally by: Blacklight Last night was an 'anomoly' for different reasons that have absolutely nothing to do with skill or who were the better pvpers.
Dumus Amarr Veto.	Posted - 2006.09.05 21:43:00 - [103] I hearby proclaim that I am the most dread Pirate in the game at the moment! Errrm well, I am by my corpmates anyway. They "dread" me logging on at any rate! Truth be told I just hang around moaning about the cost of Pilgrim setups ---------------------------
Zarquon Beeblebrox Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.09.09 16:46:00 - [104] As nice as it is for my ego to be mention in a thread like this more then a year after i last killed someone. I still have to say that the eve community is not very fair. My repurtation is purly because of how good my team mates in TDG and Teddybears is/was. For some strange reason im getting credits for what really other members in our corp and alliance did. From TDG and Teddybears there was so many pilotes far better then me in all aspects of pirating. People that seldomly are mention in threads like this. So i should mention pilotes from our old team that should have been mention in my place. Myal, Nervar, Chode, Lefevre, Lifewire, Tenacha, Xpohoc, Rivek, TinUK and many more. All of wich would have killed me one on one every time. Thanks. -- Lady Beeblebrox
Snodgey2004 Mega Modal M0nkeys	Posted - 2006.09.09 19:20:00 - [105] Couldn't resist a bit more whoring while I'm browsing , anyway , having not run into any of the mentioned ( but heard of ) I'll go with any of the pirates I run into everyday in CVA Take your pick they are all pretty good pirates , it's just they don't bother posting alot on here so you won't of heard of them except chief pirate Hardin , others i'd mention are Antireal , someone who likes to pVp and is dedicated ( and kills alot ) , Garreck - Another who has skills and uses them well......basically alot of the CVA are decent pirates , can't single too mnay out cos' theres that many but all pirates to dread /me stirs the pot
Famine Aligher'ri	Posted - 2006.09.10 06:21:00 - [106] Edited by: Famine Aligher''ri on 10/09/2006 06:23:12 I thought this was the most "Dread" pirate in EVE? I guess noone really can read but me! Verone is to nice to be the most dread pirate in EVE. Sorry Verone :). TankCEO well don't care who owns him now, all he does is carebear more than pirate. So I don't even know why people still mention his name. Ikvar, I don't think he is even a pirate anymore either. None the less, I don't think being a decent pilot makes you the most dreaded pirate in EVE. Malka who? Ginger hrrm, has all the aspects of a dread pirate eh? 1. Hated 2.*****y 3. Hard to catch 4. Mean 5. Kills the weak (No not being good in combat is good enough to list, being it means nothing) SO hrrm, who else is there who is most of that? Maybe I'm wrong here, but I would atleast think a dreaded pirate would be mean and hated atleast. :)
Malthros Zenobia Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Kimotoro Directive	Posted - 2006.09.10 07:07:00 - [107] Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri Edited by: Famine Aligher''ri on 10/09/2006 06:23:12 I thought this was the most "Dread" pirate in EVE? I guess noone really can read but me! Verone is to nice to be the most dread pirate in EVE. Sorry Verone :). TankCEO well don't care who owns him now, all he does is carebear more than pirate. So I don't even know why people still mention his name. Ikvar, I don't think he is even a pirate anymore either. None the less, I don't think being a decent pilot makes you the most dreaded pirate in EVE. Malka who? Ginger hrrm, has all the aspects of a dread pirate eh? 1. Hated 2.***y 3. Hard to catch 4. Mean 5. Kills the weak (No not being good in combat is good enough to list, being it means nothing) SO hrrm, who else is there who is most of that? Maybe I'm wrong here, but I would atleast think a dreaded pirate would be mean and hated atleast. :) Dreaded would be feared as a big part of it. Ginger's lacking skill, intimidation, and an aura of fear, quite possibly the 3 biggest things that make a person 'dreaded'. Hate doesn't make you dread/fear something, nor does being***y or having an ego the size of a planet(well you could technically dread the smacktalk you'll get if you kill the person). This disqualifies alot of pirates, since they have the ego, and the stabs filling their lows, but they don't do anything that makes them feared, and they don't have any great skills to back up/create that fear. Alot have some skills, but not all of them are excessively good. Hitting npcers gives you a huge advantage. Alot of people who I've seen take down larger ships would not do so well if the ship was setup for pvp. There are players who having them show up in local causes aware carebears to dock. No gatesnipers or ore thieves or even gang-invite users, can do that. Personally I'd dock (or call backup) if I saw Lyctius in local or Verone. There's probably others that I'll learn about when it's too late though. Sorry you can't afford a dev so you get me instead ^^ - Xorus I hear Xorus is only 50 isk an hour - Immy Oooh that could get Suvetar for the day! - Cathath
kessah Caldari Blood Corsairs	Posted - 2006.09.10 08:35:00 - [108] LOL ginger magician clearly. no seriously i gota hand it to the guy every time he says something to stir u lot up most of you post back. Your never guna be rid of him becus loads of you bite to his bait. Ive said countless times dont say anything if he posts so have others its how he feeds his ego and yet there it is... Gingers got my vote. He's an asshat but he knows how to get you talking about him. -------------------------------------------------------- Forever Pirate 2
Snodgey2004 Mega Modal M0nkeys	Posted - 2006.09.10 12:16:00 - [109] Originally by: kessah LOL ginger magician clearly. no seriously i gota hand it to the guy every time he says something to stir u lot up most of you post back. Your never guna be rid of him becus loads of you bite to his bait. Ive said countless times dont say anything if he posts so have others its how he feeds his ego and yet there it is... Gingers got my vote. He's an asshat but he knows how to get you talking about him. So merely to mention his name makes him dreaded ? I personally wouldn't say so , And I'm pretty certain no-one takes him seriously as a threat from what I've heard , he has isk that's all I know about him but isk isn't everything in this game . As for the mention of his name creating a fuss , maybe so but no more than when you mention BE you get the same reaction , they are there to be pitied , made fun of on the FORUMS , in-game they are just the same as everyone else . ( and yes I do see the irony that I posted because you mentioned The Ginger One )
Zhu Dark	Posted - 2006.09.10 13:19:00 - [110] Personally, the pirate I think accomplished the most was Leyla. Curse Alliance anyone?
Zafriel TunDraGon	Posted - 2006.09.10 14:31:00 - [111] Me I ♥ Tenacha Khan
AnarkiTheStorm Tender Loving Care Muffins of Mayhem	Posted - 2006.09.10 14:35:00 - [112] in early 2005 caldari space it was -ass- you had to watch out for... i still docked when i see them even tho im ebil now :'( late 2005 caldari/amarr space Freemannr1 and Hattfinaut (spell check) in sotg great pirates, nothing bad to say about them :D apart from there pirates.... and disbanded :(
Famine Aligher'ri	Posted - 2006.09.10 17:15:00 - [113] Edited by: Famine Aligher''ri on 10/09/2006 17:18:38 Originally by: Malthros Zenobia Dreaded would be feared as a big part of it. I'm sure the number of easy pilots he has downed fear him. Forum ***s who post on this section do not make up all of eve. Stop pretending it does. Originally by:** Malthros Zenobia Ginger's lacking skill, intimidation, and an aura of fear, quite possibly the 3 biggest things that make a person 'dreaded'. Skill? He has a ton of kills. I think his last death was some corp smacking down his carrier. Someone has to be doing something right to make that kind of money. I mean I wont jump to alt conclusions but yeah a pirate who can throw down 1 billion isk has got skill somewhere. Again it doesn't matter if the man can't fight worth a fly to the top guys in EVE. That's not piracy so why bring it up? The only way a man is skilless in piracy is if 50-80% of his attempt on the trade are failurs. I don't believe the 100's of new and easy targets he picked off are failurs. Originally by: Malthros Zenobia Hate doesn't make you dread/fear something, nor does being***y or having an ego the size of a planet(well you could technically dread the smacktalk you'll get if you kill the person). This disqualifies alot of pirates, since they have the ego, and the stabs filling their lows, but they don't do anything that makes them feared, and they don't have any great skills to back up/create that fear. Alot have some skills, but not all of them are excessively good. Hitting npcers gives you a huge advantage. Alot of people who I've seen take down larger ships would not do so well if the ship was setup for pvp. Last thing on pretty much setting you correct being you're new to talking on this trade. I think being*y and hated isn't about being dreaded. It's about being a pirate. What lovable pirates do you know? The topic of discussion is "Dreaded Pirate**". Again you make notion to skills. Piracy isn't about killing targets to brag about e-pean size. It's about making ISK. Sure good combat skill helps. Bad combat skill doesn't mean you suck, if you are making close to 500,000,000+ isk from doing what you do in a month. I'm sorry... I'm sure everyone will think I'm Ginger's alt after this one heh, but really I don't care what most of you sheep think :)
Verone	Posted - 2006.09.10 17:30:00 - [114] Edited by: Verone on 10/09/2006 17:31:42 Stupid forums ate my reply BACKSTORY AND FAN FICTION
Famine Aligher'ri	Posted - 2006.09.10 17:52:00 - [115] Edited by: Famine Aligher''ri on 10/09/2006 17:54:31 Originally by: Verone Edited by: Verone on 10/09/2006 17:37:20 Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri Piracy isn't about killing targets to brag about e-pean size. It's about making ISK. Not to flame Famine, so don't take offence, but this quote is where your argument completely falls apart, because this is EXACTLY what Ginger does. Sitting 200km off a gate, racking up those shuttle and hauler kills so he can go claim top spot on a killboard somewhere. Sniping off a gate in lowsec is not PvP, it's in the same ballpark as spawn camping in an FPS. Something wrong with killing Indy's? I mean I thought that was good? Indys is like candy to me. I see a Indy I get wet. None the less, check his killboard. Not all are shuttles. Actually has more BS kills than you do (from veto killboard). I hate comparing sizes but it's just for refrence purposes only. Sure sniping is weak but then again so is killing someone 3 on 1 or 5 on 1. You both tend to do that. That doesn't mean you're any less of a good pirate :)
Malthros Zenobia Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Kimotoro Directive	Posted - 2006.09.10 18:06:00 - [116] So if I make ISK, I'd be a successful pirate, with loads of skill? I guess people who suicide in highsec and get T2 BPOS and billions in minerals have TONS of skills? Don't confuse skills with idiotcy on the part of others. If I were to fly an indy with 30k of morphite through 0.0 and get popped by a cruiser at a gate, who then proceeds to make billions off of my loot, that doesn't make him skilled, it makes him lucky (and me a moron). And if you're going to try some lame forum ***** cope-out, maybe you should realize just why the gatesniper you're talking about, is so well known compared to the hundreds of others who do the exact same thing. By your standards, every gatesniper with tons of playtime is a better pirate than people who do more than sit at 200km shooting idiots and AFKers while aligned so that they can warp out at the first sign of danger. You cannot use black and white as a means of deciding 'best' at anything. And as Verone said, camping gates is like camping spawns in a FPS. Yes, the camper might have 2x the kills, but his ass is grass once the guy with 2/3s his kills, who made them by chasing down the other players and outskilling them, comes after him. Sorry you can't afford a dev so you get me instead ^^ - Xorus I hear Xorus is only 50 isk an hour - Immy Oooh that could get Suvetar for the day! - Cathath
Gift Amarr Loot	Posted - 2006.09.10 18:26:00 - [117] Originally by: Verone Sniping off a gate in lowsec is not PvP, it's in the same ballpark as spawn camping in an FPS. But it is also the best way to actually make isk. Pirates of Eve, Join channel "Pirate" Today!
Ikvar Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.09.10 19:03:00 - [118] Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri Someone has to be doing something right to make that kind of money. I mean I wont jump to alt conclusions but yeah a pirate who can throw down 1 billion isk has got skill somewhere. He gets the money from his carebear alt and I believe he's also a gigantic mission *****. Anyways, Ginger isn't famous for being a pirate as such, he's famous for his 'people skills' and forum/local smack. If he never talked he may still get loads of kills but no one would know him.
Famine Aligher'ri	Posted - 2006.09.10 19:05:00 - [119] Edited by: Famine Aligher''ri on 10/09/2006 19:07:02 Originally by: Malthros Zenobia So if I make ISK, I'd be a successful pirate, with loads of skill? By brute force with your ship, then yes... (Ransoming, Sniping, and Ganking pilots in low security to no security are examples) Not even going to touch the rest of your comments because at this point you're clueless. Sorry to say it, but there is no real point on arguing with someone who just doesn't know. Originally by: Ikvar Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri Someone has to be doing something right to make that kind of money. I mean I wont jump to alt conclusions but yeah a pirate who can throw down 1 billion isk has got skill somewhere. He gets the money from his carebear alt and I believe he's also a gigantic mission *****. Anyways, Ginger isn't famous for being a pirate as such, he's famous for his 'people skills' and forum/local smack. If he never talked he may still get loads of kills but no one would know him. Don't know, just saying. Despite his obvious smacktalk and many threads on trying to be famous. There is no real reason to rule the man out. He gets kills, seems to make isk, and is hated :)
Snodgey2004 Mega Modal M0nkeys	Posted - 2006.09.10 19:15:00 - [120] Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri ..... and is hated :) But is he dreaded ?
ParMizaN Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.09.10 19:34:00 - [121] I don't think you can call somebody dreaded when their biggest enemy is the block button ;) The "best" pirates in my books over the years would be people like verone, tank ceo, chode, lifewire, zarquon, hupa, myal, daakkon, lord zap n co, shamis, drossk n the rest of snigg, the rest of veto, all of DNA, and solo players like kessah, famine and so on. I really don't see sniping as piracy. sig edited for lack of pink really PINK -eris Pink is overrated, yellow is the new pink - Xorus XORUS!!1 HEATHEN KILLKILLKILLKILLKILL - Immy
Doomsday Machine Caldari Jovian Labs	Posted - 2006.09.10 19:55:00 - [122] One person I know I would crap myself if I saw in local, Trey Azagthoth...
Ikvar Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.09.10 20:05:00 - [123] Originally by: Doomsday Machine One person I know I would crap myself if I saw in local, Trey Azagthoth... That wouldn't put him off abusing your bottom
Verone	Posted - 2006.09.10 20:46:00 - [124] Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri Actually has more BS kills than you do (from veto killboard). I hate comparing sizes but it's just for refrence purposes only. Sure sniping is weak but then again so is killing someone 3 on 1 or 5 on 1. You both tend to do that. That doesn't mean you're any less of a good pirate :) Kills mean nothing to me, I attempt to ransom everything I come across that's of any value. Most people pay. As for Trey Azagthoth... the only person who scares me more is Backdoor Bandit BACKSTORY AND FAN FICTION
Evil Pookie BURN EDEN	Posted - 2006.09.10 23:09:00 - [125] Did a burn eden pilot even get a mention? are we even considered pirates?
Ripline FinFleet Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.09.10 23:18:00 - [126] Originally by: Evil Pookie Did a burn eden pilot even get a mention? are we even considered pirates? Very good question. For whatever reason Burn Eden doesn't get profiled as pirates. Few things come to mind: - You operate mostly in 0.0, for whatever reason few people get counted as pirates out there. - No ransoming , at least that I've noticed. For my money's worth if any entity in 0.0 would go I'd pick Ign0ramus the Nyx pirate and Finite Horizon (low numbers, high SP and skill).
Tbone Caldari Finite Horizon	Posted - 2006.09.10 23:19:00 - [127] Originally by: Verone Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri Actually has more BS kills than you do (from veto killboard). I hate comparing sizes but it's just for refrence purposes only. Sure sniping is weak but then again so is killing someone 3 on 1 or 5 on 1. You both tend to do that. That doesn't mean you're any less of a good pirate :) Kills mean nothing to me, I attempt to ransom everything I come across that's of any value. Most people pay. As for Trey Azagthoth... the only person who scares me more is Backdoor Bandit U lie, cause I scare u too. ----------------------------------------------- Finite Horizon
Evil Pookie BURN EDEN	Posted - 2006.09.11 01:23:00 - [128] Edited by: Evil Pookie on 11/09/2006 01:24:51 Do you need to ransom to be considered a pirate? (I ransomed a chump pack freighter for 500mil and a cov ops pod for 100 mil last week). Do you need to hunt in low sec space to be considered a pirate? I know that we hunt in 0.0 because this is where the good mods are. It's all about the isk. Not even sure I consider myself a pirate, but then if i'm not a pirate, what am I? (I sometimes joke that I am a t2 module miner)
Malthros Zenobia Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Kimotoro Directive	Posted - 2006.09.11 02:03:00 - [129] Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri Edited by: Famine Aligher''ri on 10/09/2006 19:07:02 Originally by: Malthros Zenobia So if I make ISK, I'd be a successful pirate, with loads of skill? By brute force with your ship, then yes... (Ransoming, Sniping, and Ganking pilots in low security to no security are examples) Not even going to touch the rest of your comments because at this point you're clueless. Sorry to say it, but there is no real point on arguing with someone who just doesn't know. Your cope-out is accepted, have a nice day, learn to refute arguements instead of make your idiotic attacks on my forum whoring next time. It's funny you'd call me clueless. I guess you do consider it to be 'skill' when a person takes down a ship that isn't setup to fight them, at all? By your horribly twisted logic, it's my 'skill' that lets me take down a Torp-spitting Raven whose droneskills are nothing and his fitting is horribly gimped. No, wait, that's luck, just like 99% of kills a gatesniper gets. Please learn the difference next time. Besides, you have no idea what kind of chars sit in my other two char slots, or what're on my other account(s). Sorry you can't afford a dev so you get me instead ^^ - Xorus I hear Xorus is only 50 isk an hour - Immy Oooh that could get Suvetar for the day! - Cathath
Famine Aligher'ri	Posted - 2006.09.11 04:24:00 - [130] Edited by: Famine Aligher''ri on 11/09/2006 04:24:23 Originally by: Malthros Zenobia Your cope-out is accepted, have a nice day, learn to refute arguements instead of make your idiotic attacks on my forum whoring next time. It's funny you'd call me clueless. I guess you do consider it to be 'skill' when a person takes down a ship that isn't setup to fight them, at all? By your horribly twisted logic, it's my 'skill' that lets me take down a Torp-spitting Raven (in a frig or AF) whose drone skills are nothing and his fitting is horribly gimped. No, wait, that's luck (since if he has a good tank fitted, no amount of 'skills' will let my little ship break it), just like 99% of kills a gatesniper gets. Please learn the difference between skill and luck. I'm going to clue you in on how pvp combat is in EVE-ONLINE. 90% of my fights as a solo player in EVE are fights with ships that I don't know what's fitted. That means majority of my fights in EVE are against someone who could be setup to counter me. Is that luck? Well, if that was true. Then that means all the cookie cutter setups people run should win 100% of the time in the right instance. You know what, they don't. You know why? Because a little thing called "Game Mechanics". :) So is it luck you countered my setup and owned me? Na, it's skill. Because, as soon as I saw that you were fitted to counter me. I still had options. As for new pilots getting beat like the torp raven example. Is that luck too? Na, skill. You know how to fly your ship. He doesn't... You knew how to exploit his weaknesses. He just sat there and let you engage him knowing he had no defense against you. Soon as you enter a system. You be thinking on how you can win. Not when you get in range. Quote: Besides, you have no idea what kind of chars sit in my other two char slots, or what're on my other account(s). So you're an alt, how did I guess? Quote: Ofcourse you could ransom AND pop the person, but that's bad for business, and it tends to **** off other pirates, as it makes all those who keep their word, look just as bad to the screwed-over person. You speak as if all the pirates here are in one joint operation? If I see Verone in a system I am in. I'm not going to say "Hey" and let him go. I'm going to try to smack him as he would me. Don't hate players who ransom and still kill. They're after all pirates... If you know the meaning that is...
Malthros Zenobia Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Kimotoro Directive	Posted - 2006.09.11 05:40:00 - [131] Edited by: Malthros Zenobia on 11/09/2006 05:43:08 You're now saying game mechanics are skill? You missed my point sadly, which is that player 'skill' is not just someting that is there or isn't, like in a FPS. For example, a friend of mine was, for something like 14 weeks, the #1 ranked defensive player on tribes 2. There's nothing I could do to counter his skills. To put that in EVE perspective, it'd be like me hoping into a blasterthron and going after some MC who's been flying one for 3 years. He'll know the tricks I don't. Yes, it's luck, good or bad, that your enemy is or isn't able to counter you. I've killed a moa with an incursus before. It was luck that he didn't have missiles fitted, otherwise, no amount of 'skill' would've let me win, because his tank held out for a long ass time, and my then t1-fitted frig would not have been able to tank those 2 assault/heavy launchers. The point with my Raven, which I should've mentioned a warp scram, is that the target, who wasnt able to counter, had no option but to die. However our discussion is getting horribly off-topic and the mods are probably going to only take so much more of this. However, my orginal point, which still remains, is that gatesniping is not a 'skill' that will really make a person fear or dread them, like with some others, who will leave that aligned 200km sniperspot, to come hunt you down in a complex, at a belt, or maybe even right outside a station. They'll have the skill, which you and I are debating, to setup and use their ship to kill the target while under fire, something a sniper doesn't do (but I'm quite sure a Rohk will beable to fit due to huge range and probably a ton of mids). The Gatesnipers tend to just fit to gank and GTFO. I don't consider a single repper or shield booster to be a tank, because if someone does manage to lock them down, they're dead. I will, however, say it takes skill to KILL a gatesniper, because you have very, very little room for error. If you don't hit them fast and lock them down, they'll be gone. Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri So you're an alt, how did I guess? Sorry to disappoint, but you're wrong. The other 2 slots have sub 100k chars I created to check out the new bloodlines. Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri Quote: Ofcourse you could ransom AND pop the person, but that's bad for business, and it tends to ** off other pirates, as it makes all those who keep their word, look just as bad to the screwed-over person. You speak as if all the pirates here are in one joint operation? If I see Verone in a system I am in. I'm not going to say "Hey" and let him go. I'm going to try to smack him as he would me. Don't hate players who ransom and still kill. They're after all pirates... If you know the meaning that is... I'm saying that in general, pirates who ransom keep their word, and if some pirate goes around dishonoring ransoms, that's going to ** off the pirates who DO honor ransoms, because alot of players who get ransomed tend to view pirates as all being the same. I don't group pirates into one joint operation, but I know plenty of carebears in empire who view them all as the same thing, and if the get ransomed and popped once, it's unlikely they'll trust a pirate to keep their word in the future. Sorry you can't afford a dev so you get me instead ^^ - Xorus I hear Xorus is only 50 isk an hour - Immy Oooh that could get Suvetar for the day! - Cathath
Famine Aligher'ri	Posted - 2006.09.11 06:31:00 - [132] I'm sorry you're incorrect. I'm sorry, I feel at this point I can't explain it in a way you would understand. You see combat in black and white. Nothing more I can say, I guess.
Malthros Zenobia Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Kimotoro Directive	Posted - 2006.09.11 08:15:00 - [133] Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri I'm sorry you're incorrect. I'm sorry, I feel at this point I can't explain it in a way you would understand. You see combat in black and white. Nothing more I can say, I guess. That's because what you're explaining, isn't right. You're saying things that are luck, or game mechanics, are skill, and that simply is not true. You also say that making alot of ISK as a pirate = skill, which is also bull****. If You and I camp 2 different systems, sniping every indy we see, then the next day, we trade systems, and do it again, and I make 5billion ISK, and you make 1billion ISK, does that mean I have 5x the skill you do? Ofcourse not, but your orginal arguement would claim otherwise. No, I'm not saying combat is all black and white, however you're saying EVE combat has far more 'skill' aspect than it does. In some fights, things you won't do gatesniping, you have to know how to manage your cap and possibly even ammo, transversal...etc. However you can use skill, or rather, knowledge, to dictact the fights you take part in. For example, I was flying one of my mentioned market alts for the last hour, checking prices in amarr regions. In a lowsec system, I saw 3 odd chars, and warped around, and found them sitting at a belt. 1 miner, 1 hauler, 1 moa. I looked and saw the moa had med lasers fitted, the omen was mining, and the itty came back after 10 minutes to haul from the named can by the omen. I killed the moa, with an incursus, and maybe 20k sps in gunnery. How? He only had the lasers fitted, and the incursus i used had 3 blasters and a warp scram, because I kill macrominers with it now and then. The only skill I used was to observe the guy. After I charged him, and found out he had no launchers on (which was odd), no amount, or lack of, skill on my part, was going to make me win or lose. The same goes for the moa I killed. They had nothing fitted to let them kill a frig orbitting at 500m, and they couldnt warp away. That fight was black and white. I could run that fight 500 times in a row, and the outcome would always be the samem, because luck presented me with a ship that couldn't possibly hurt me, like a Raven firing torps at an inty. So like I said, I don't think all combat is black and white. Some of it is though, and that's a fact. However, you orginally said that the more ISK a pirate makes, the more skill they have and you just cannot accept the idea that you're wrong about that, or that 'skill' in many cases is more 'luck' due to being at the right place, at the right time, with a target who has the wrong setup. Sorry you can't afford a dev so you get me instead ^^ - Xorus I hear Xorus is only 50 isk an hour - Immy Oooh that could get Suvetar for the day! - Cathath
Tityana Gallente Finite Horizon	Posted - 2006.09.11 11:36:00 - [134] Originally by: hUssmann Originally by: Karash Amerius Still Verone...although I have never had the pleasure of meeting him in space. Good for you, i have to sit on vent and listen to him say cake, it's like nails on a chalkboard i swear Cherry pie anyone? Please resize your signature to the limits specified in the forum rules, thanks. -wystler ([email protected]) ♥My Hero!
Famine Aligher'ri	Posted - 2006.09.11 12:14:00 - [135] Originally by: Skill the ability to use one's knowledge effectively and readily in execution or performance Any questions?
Mary Anne	Posted - 2006.09.11 13:09:00 - [136] Edited by: Mary Anne on 11/09/2006 13:10:01 Stavros is my favorite to be mentioned here. Back in the days all alliance chats were running wild when Stavros logged on. "Avoid going to Fountain, Stavros killed 3 again." Basically when Stavros logged on, most ppl avoided the system he was presumably in. (At most any entrance system to 0.0 Fountain). Of course he then killed in another system. In regards to dreaded: From what I know, most ppl in EvE had Stavros in adress book only to know when he logs on and off.
Herrmann Vietzich Caldari	Posted - 2006.09.11 19:00:00 - [137] Anyone from TunDraGon, really... Secondarily, Tank CEO. --- "Into the fire, she swallowed their hate." - Dahlia Gillespie ***
Zafriel TunDraGon	Posted - 2006.09.11 19:05:00 - [138] is anyone really dreaded in eve? All i see is nominations for hated pirate, best pirate and annoying pirate. One person got nominated for all three. I ♥ Tenacha Khan
Verone	Posted - 2006.09.11 19:29:00 - [139] Originally by: Tbone U lie, cause I scare u too. You... arouse me... that's totally different... BACKSTORY AND FAN FICTION
Masta Killa BURN EDEN	Posted - 2006.09.11 19:37:00 - [140] Why do pirates have to camp low sec bottlenecks to deserve the name pirates? Low sec doesn't even have bubbles, interdictors or huge alliance fleets.. where's the fun (aka. risk) in that? You make much more money in 0.0, hell, everyone in UDIE is a multi-billionaire from pirating alliance regions.. -------------------------------------- "It's like, we show up and UDIE."
Shamis Orzoz SniggWaffe	Posted - 2006.09.11 20:55:00 - [141] Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri Something wrong with killing Indy's? I mean I thought that was good? Indys is like candy to me. I see a Indy I get wet. None the less, check his killboard. Not all are shuttles. Actually has more BS kills than you do (from veto killboard). I hate comparing sizes but it's just for refrence purposes only. So how many bs kills does Ginger have? I'd ask for a link to his killboard...but that would of course not be allowed since the fragile ego's of eve's PvP'ers can't be exposed to such data.
Ikvar Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.09.11 22:22:00 - [142] Originally by: Shamis Orzoz Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri Something wrong with killing Indy's? I mean I thought that was good? Indys is like candy to me. I see a Indy I get wet. None the less, check his killboard. Not all are shuttles. Actually has more BS kills than you do (from veto killboard). I hate comparing sizes but it's just for refrence purposes only. So how many bs kills does Ginger have? I'd ask for a link to his killboard...but that would of course not be allowed since the fragile ego's of eve's PvP'ers can't be exposed to such data. He uses Battleclinic iirc.
Famine Aligher'ri	Posted - 2006.09.11 23:31:00 - [143] Snicker, dono just looked it up on some random one. Not like I post killmails either.
Frank Draconian	Posted - 2006.09.12 02:53:00 - [144] Edited by: Frank Draconian on 12/09/2006 02:56:31 Hmm, this thread is pretty interesting to me. I was there during the first month of release, and just recently reactivated. I probably hold the record for the longest inactive account to reactivate. I have no idea who Ikvar and Verone are, but back then Tank CEO, Lord Zap ( originally just Zap, briefly Zzap), and Ywev are definitely names I remember. M0o was really hated by so many players, I ran into to ex-eve players in other mmo's months later who cited them as their reason for quitting. I had a personal grudge against Ywev. They were feared and respected for their ability to do crazy things, like actually claiming several systems in empire space that were major hubs and killing anyone who passed through. But they defintiely made the game extremely frustrating for a lot of people who didnt play beta and were still learning and deciding if they liked it. I remember they hung out in bounty chat all the time and just made stupid faces, like typing 0_o, @-@, for hours, and would use geek speak like typing "wut r u talking bout?, lolz, lolz" instead of "what are you talking about?" I'm not sure what pirates do now, but the guys of m0o corp were so "dread" that they forced the devs to make changes to the game.
Shamis Orzoz SniggWaffe	Posted - 2006.09.12 04:10:00 - [145] Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri Originally by: Verone Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri Piracy isn't about killing targets to brag about e-pean size. It's about making ISK. Not to flame Famine, so don't take offence, but this quote is where your argument completely falls apart, because this is EXACTLY what Ginger does. Sitting 200km off a gate, racking up those shuttle and hauler kills so he can go claim top spot on a killboard somewhere. Sniping off a gate in lowsec is not PvP, it's in the same ballpark as spawn camping in an FPS. Something wrong with killing Indy's? I mean I thought that was good? Indys is like candy to me. I see a Indy I get wet. None the less, check his killboard. Not all are shuttles. Actually has more BS kills than you do (from veto killboard). I hate comparing sizes but it's just for refrence purposes only. (Verone's bs kills + Ginger's BS kills) * 2 < Shamis's bs kills.
Superbus Maximus Gallente Sniggerdly	Posted - 2006.09.12 04:14:00 - [146] Originally by: Shamis Orzoz Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri Originally by: Verone Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri Piracy isn't about killing targets to brag about e-pean size. It's about making ISK. Not to flame Famine, so don't take offence, but this quote is where your argument completely falls apart, because this is EXACTLY what Ginger does. Sitting 200km off a gate, racking up those shuttle and hauler kills so he can go claim top spot on a killboard somewhere. Sniping off a gate in lowsec is not PvP, it's in the same ballpark as spawn camping in an FPS. Something wrong with killing Indy's? I mean I thought that was good? Indys is like candy to me. I see a Indy I get wet. None the less, check his killboard. Not all are shuttles. Actually has more BS kills than you do (from veto killboard). I hate comparing sizes but it's just for refrence purposes only. (Verone's bs kills + Ginger's BS kills) * 2 < Shamis's bs kills. Shamis is really a big carebear if only people knew
Famine Aligher'ri	Posted - 2006.09.12 04:33:00 - [147] Didn't mean to quote killboards. Really it doesn't matter, just proving a point :P
Shamis Orzoz SniggWaffe	Posted - 2006.09.12 04:34:00 - [148] Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri Didn't mean to quote killboards. Really it doesn't matter, just proving a point :P Yeah I know, I just wanted to prove my point too
Tobias Sjodin Caldari Ore Mongers Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2006.09.12 05:13:00 - [149] Edited by: Tobias Sjodin on 12/09/2006 05:13:09 There's enough ego-stroking here to make Narcissus seem opaque in his mirror. [ore mongers, recruiting]
Serj Darek Minmatar Mentally Unstable Enterprises	Posted - 2006.09.12 05:37:00 - [150] Its Chribba! All veld phears him!!11 Sig removed, lacks Eve-related content - Cortes It contains my ingame name and corp ticker - Serj
UltraDragon Warmongers	Posted - 2006.09.12 18:46:00 - [151] Originally by: Malthros Zenobia Originally by: Verus Potestas Tank or Verone are probably most famous. I don't think Tank's nearly as well-known to us newer players as Verone though. Okay, Verone what is he famous for except forum whoring? Killen eni ples.
Malthros Zenobia Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Kimotoro Directive	Posted - 2006.09.16 17:38:00 - [152] Originally by: UltraDragon Originally by: Malthros Zenobia Originally by: Verus Potestas Tank or Verone are probably most famous. I don't think Tank's nearly as well-known to us newer players as Verone though. Okay, Verone what is he famous for except forum whoring? Being a very effective pirate, and leading a corp of pirates that alot of carebears fear? What's Tank famous for? All I've heard of him is he was good way back when, and that he was sold off at some point, and is a carebear now. That's not very dreaded, and none of the newer players are going to fear something from before their time. Sorry you can't afford a dev so you get me instead ^^ - Xorus I hear Xorus is only 50 isk an hour - Immy Oooh that could get Suvetar for the day! - Cathath For 50, you can have my goat:P- Tirg
nightjackel BEAAC	Posted - 2006.09.16 17:54:00 - [153] (Verone's bs kills + Ginger's BS kills) * 2 < Shamis's bs kills. Shamis is really a big carebear if only people knew I would agree with this think I have a screeny of him flying a freighter. Though, to be honest he is a excellent fleet commander, Verone on the our hand ahh hes good at ganking lone bs miners.
Scoundrelus The Black Fleet Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2006.09.17 04:34:00 - [154] Originally by: UltraDragon Originally by: Malthros Zenobia Originally by: Verus Potestas Tank or Verone are probably most famous. I don't think Tank's nearly as well-known to us newer players as Verone though. Okay, Verone what is he famous for except forum whoring? What is ANYONE famous for except that? People only know Verone, Tank CEO, etc as well as they do because they either post on the forum a lot or have a lot of forum posts about them. Look at Ginger Magician, I wouldn't have a clue who he is if not for the posts on the forum, same goes for Verone and Tank CEO. ===============================================
H Zub Omniscient Order	Posted - 2006.09.17 06:29:00 - [155] Originally by: Scoundrelus Originally by: UltraDragon Originally by: Malthros Zenobia Originally by: Verus Potestas Tank or Verone are probably most famous. I don't think Tank's nearly as well-known to us newer players as Verone though. Okay, Verone what is he famous for except forum whoring? What is ANYONE famous for except that? People only know Verone, Tank CEO, etc as well as they do because they either post on the forum a lot or have a lot of forum posts about them. Look at Ginger Magician, I wouldn't have a clue who he is if not for the posts on the forum, same goes for Verone and Tank CEO. The few famous people I respect in this game, never made their name on the forums. Still they are well known ingame. The Hunter Hypnotized
Wicked Wisdom Minmatar	Posted - 2006.09.17 07:57:00 - [156] Edited by: Wicked Wisdom on 17/09/2006 07:57:47 double post
Wicked Wisdom Minmatar	Posted - 2006.09.17 07:58:00 - [157] Originally by: Scoundrelus Originally by: UltraDragon Originally by: Malthros Zenobia Originally by: Verus Potestas Tank or Verone are probably most famous. I don't think Tank's nearly as well-known to us newer players as Verone though. Okay, Verone what is he famous for except forum whoring? What is ANYONE famous for except that? People only know Verone, Tank CEO, etc as well as they do because they either post on the forum a lot or have a lot of forum posts about them. Look at Ginger Magician, I wouldn't have a clue who he is if not for the posts on the forum, same goes for Verone and Tank CEO. Dude, youre a total retard. Tank CEO is famous for his ingame actions and NOT his forum posting or threads about him... Get a clue
Khorin D'tael	Posted - 2006.09.17 21:57:00 - [158] No one in this game is anything like a real pirate! Why? Because real pirates wouldn't get 100% insurance on the ships they use for their trade, real pirates also wouldn't have another 2 potentialy secret identities to spy with etc. Compared to WoW Eve is a very harsh game when it comes to losses etc but with the ransoming system as it is, the way ppl can do a weeks carebeariing in 0.0 to regain sec, the use of alts and even 100% insurance for illegal activity in 1.0 system it's still a joke! As for most of the players mentioned here they are known due to either taking advantage of the pvp system a few years ago when it was possible to chain concorde in 1.0 etc, for their forum whoring or their sycophantic buddies arselicking them or tactics that allthough are lame are legitimate like gate camping.
Zafriel TunDraGon	Posted - 2006.09.17 23:05:00 - [159] Tank is famouse for the same things as ginger, just people dont find him annoying as he doesnt post here anymore. People hated him, thought he was a bigheaded arrogant nub back when he actually pirated more. Ginger is the new tank ceo. Maybe if he gets banned soon, in a few yrs time people may talk about the dreaded Ginger. I ♥ Tenacha Khan
Karl Mord	Posted - 2006.09.18 08:59:00 - [160] I dunno about Dread Pirate... but I'll say this: I'll rank Alliaanna Dalaii as a 'Pirate of Note'. I can't say one way or the other about the pirating skills, but the misdirection with those T2 BPCs you pulled was really well done. Your a pirate, you did something of note. Pirate of Note. Sure, the Snigg IPO scam pulled in more isk, but it was just the same old boiler plate 'give me isk because your stupid'.
Shaemell Buttleson Euphoria Released Euphoria Unleashed	Posted - 2006.09.18 09:58:00 - [161] Like the person said 3 posts up there is noone who really risks anything in the game when it comes to criminal activity. I might have a change of thought if ppl lost their Navy ravens in suicide attacks in 1.0 or the insurance refused to pay up if you broke concorde laws with the insured ships. Another one would be you could only put escrows up with characters that have trained for more than a few months or even have the same rules on escrow that they have about posting in the alliance section of this forum "no alts or noob corp characters". Until they start having gameplay that addresses these I am sorry there will never be any pirates of particular note. PVP'ers are not in this catagory allthough for the same reasons they don't have an awfull lot to risk either if they are carefull with the use of jumpclones, ship insurance (if they stick to non faction ships and officer module equiped).
Karl Mord	Posted - 2006.09.18 10:58:00 - [162] Originally by: Shaemell Buttleson Like the person said 3 posts up there is noone who really risks anything in the game when it comes to criminal activity. I might have a change of thought if ppl lost their Navy ravens in suicide attacks in 1.0 or the insurance refused to pay up if you broke concorde laws with the insured ships. Another one would be you could only put escrows up with characters that have trained for more than a few months or even have the same rules on escrow that they have about posting in the alliance section of this forum "no alts or noob corp characters". Until they start having gameplay that addresses these I am sorry there will never be any pirates of particular note. PVP'ers are not in this catagory allthough for the same reasons they don't have an awfull lot to risk either if they are carefull with the use of jumpclones, ship insurance (if they stick to non faction ships and officer module equiped). Oh right. So when Verone strolls past some ISSN, or up to an ASCN gate camp, I bet the local cops just tip their hats and wish him a good day. Oh wait. Just like the folks in The Establishment don't risk anything when they fly that 30bil mothership around and pirate people with it. Because I'm sooooo sure those clowns are not on anyone's wanted list... Oh wait. I've also not seen ANY videos of people flying around Navy Issue Megathrons kitted out with officer mods and solo pirating scores of people, even 2 on 1... Oh wait. There are pirates out in 0.0 and low sec, and you spend any ammount of time out there, you'll figure out that some of the locals are more notorious than others. Poo-pooing on piracy because nobody uses a Navy Raven to suicide gank someone (why would they? All of EVE would laugh at them for being the biggest idiot in EVE.) is just laughable. Pirates don't even go into high sec. Why would they? High-Sec is for shopping and idiots.
Lifewire Caldari TunDraGon	Posted - 2006.09.18 16:09:00 - [163] I dont know if some people play GW warhammer (fantasy) here, but in warhammer some units or individuals cause "fear" and some do even cause "terror" to enemy units/individuals. For example a "blodthirster demon" causes "terror". In EVE there are definitivly players that cause fear and also some that cause terror. This means their pure presence changes everything in a system or even constelation, causes players to safespot, dock or regroup into a blob. Just some names: Tank, Zarq, Shamis, Lordmix Just some corps: Sniggs, ASS, Zombies, Jokers, Teddys, M0o, Space invaders I cannot be said who causes the most terror since the effect is the same: people safespot, dock, regroup into a blob - this is "terror". A pirate causing terror looses the option to sneak into enemy groups. So causing "terror" is not only a good thing - it makes hunting harder, but might often save his life when 3 or 4 enemys might be able to kill him, but are so much paralized by his presence that they cannot act at all. Forum:http://www.tundragon.com/forum/ Movies:http://www.tundragon.com/pub/eveclips Killboard:http://www.tundragon.com/
Brian Bookmark	Posted - 2006.09.18 17:40:00 - [164] I dont know any pirates, Any willing to slip me a length so i can big u up on here ?
Shaemell Buttleson Euphoria Released Euphoria Unleashed	Posted - 2006.09.18 18:43:00 - [165] Karl you really are a **** aren't you. Your last post just proves that name droppers like you make the majority of Eve pirates famous unless they do it temselves when forum whoring. Take your tongue out of ppl's arses and stop pointing out the 1 or 2 instances where pirates really do risk all!
Gorion Wassenar Caldari Tsurokigaarai Kimotoro Directive	Posted - 2006.09.18 18:57:00 - [166] Viceroy & TANK CEO not in that particular order. Don't be too sure. I think TANK is out for a comeback now that he has a carrier. ------------------ CEO of TKI
darth solo Celestial Apocalypse	Posted - 2006.09.18 20:12:00 - [167] hahahahaha, hahahahahahahahaha. hahahahahahahahahahahahaha. d solo.
Karl Mord	Posted - 2006.09.18 20:49:00 - [168] Originally by: Shaemell Buttleson Karl you really are a **** aren't you. Your last post just proves that name droppers like you make the majority of Eve pirates famous unless they do it temselves when forum whoring. Take your tongue out of ppl's arses and stop pointing out the 1 or 2 instances where pirates really do risk all! Really. I thought the POINT of this thread was name dropping. The whole 'So who's the Most Dread Pirate in EVE' think confused me. If you didn't want to see gratatious forum whorage, why did you open the thread? But that is alright. I didn't mean to step on your whole 'I'm so cool and unique because I'm contrary to the masses' routine.
Taaser Caldari Karnival of Death Squad Barracudas.	Posted - 2006.09.19 00:34:00 - [169] Edited by: Taaser on 19/09/2006 00:37:00 Death Warrent
BIRDofPREY Minmatar Army of the 12 Monkeys	Posted - 2006.09.19 01:08:00 - [170] Tough Call... I think in the last 3 years it's has to be either Lord Zap or Tank CEO.. Been greased by both.. Frustration, agravation and anger is just EVE's way of saying you are playing the game to the fullist
BIRDofPREY Minmatar Army of the 12 Monkeys	Posted - 2006.09.19 01:12:00 - [171] Now that I think about it... Lord Zap Him and the m0o are more responsible for the shape of EVE now than any other group. They found every flaw and exploit in the game and made everyone they came across pay for it... m0o Frustration, agravation and anger is just EVE's way of saying you are playing the game to the fullist
NyteMask Caldari principle of motion	Posted - 2006.09.22 20:07:00 - [172] Edited by: NyteMask on 22/09/2006 20:08:23 Originally by: Shamis Orzoz Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri Something wrong with killing Indy's? I mean I thought that was good? Indys is like candy to me. I see a Indy I get wet. None the less, check his killboard. Not all are shuttles. Actually has more BS kills than you do (from veto killboard). I hate comparing sizes but it's just for refrence purposes only. So how many bs kills does Ginger have? I'd ask for a link to his killboard...but that would of course not be allowed since the fragile ego's of eve's PvP'ers can't be exposed to such data. Sounds like a gauntlet was thrown down. I would love to see Verone pawn Shamis
Praetor	Posted - 2006.09.24 06:42:00 - [173] Originally by: Gericault m0id Originally by: Alpha Sentori On a personal note, m0o used to scare the crap out of me and reminded me of the Borg when they closed in on you. I share this view. m0o used to scare the crap out me as a noob. As soon as I saw one in local it got my adrenalin kicking and I remember their excursions up in Yulai which I'd stay out of for fear of becoming a victim (this is long before I ever visited low sec). I remember the first lvl4 missions I did after Exodus and some of the pirate missions even mentioned m0o as the 'infamous pirates' . I wish devs could put more of that stuff in because it's really exciting as a new player to see that notoriety can be recreated not only on forums. As for pirates today. I'm not sure. I've been killed and been killed by many of the famous ones (S******dly, Veto, Turby's (famous?) etc.) and maybe the legend dies once you engage them. As for m0o: I never fought them but to me they'll always be uber I remember Tank and Leeloo from the old days as being good. Haven't kept track lately. As for Moo, with the exception of 3 members, they were nothing more than a bunch of gate campers with battleships. Ask one of their old leaders about them losing 18 ships in one week, 5 of which were battleships to one guy in a kestral, at that goofy damn blockade they had going on caldari empire space (forgot name of system, hell that was 2-1/2 years ago.)(goota love the old kestral with mines and multiple afterburners). That alt was alot of fun, made solely for screwing with their stupid blockade of newbie space. I honestly don't remember the names of the three decent members i met from them, but they were all three part of group Moo had when they controlled the edo-0.0 passage.
Famine Aligher'ri	Posted - 2006.09.24 07:54:00 - [174] Damnit now you insulted m0o, you know how many mimics are going to be upset now? I once told this new pirate outfit "who is moo?" and they flipped out on me ><
Constantine Arcanum Gallente IMPERIAL SENATE Pure.	Posted - 2006.09.24 17:34:00 - [175] Ginger is. No, seriously, he scares noobs, therefore he is a dread pirate. I helped - Cortes What a shiny and lovely place here - Eshtir Well lets make it a party atleast :D -Xorus RAWWWR!11!!1!2 SIG HIJACK!!11!1 I found it first, get orrrfff moiiii laaannnd - Cortes
Nafri Caldari Cataclysm Enterprises Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.09.24 18:13:00 - [176] I would always say Xpohoc hardly seen on forums, strange name and hes an ugly minmatar he had some kind of an aura which made him dreaded From Dusk till Dawn
Handon Guild Exotic Dancers Club	Posted - 2006.09.25 06:39:00 - [177] You cannot label "the most dreaded pirate in eve", because such a person doesn't exist. These threads are made mostly in hope of seeing ones own name here, thereby boosting their epeen. There are several hundred thousand subscribers, and each have their own idea of who they'd least like to run into. Personally, the only thing that makes me think twice about engaging is if the person is in a bigger ship, has backup en route or if I know for a fact that this person is superior to me! So, don't put too much in these threads. As to Tank, Daakkon, Verone, Ikvar, Ginger, and all the other aktive forum-people. Yes, they are mainly known because of their activities on forum, but they could also very well be superior to you if faced in a good 1on1. There are many good players in eve, and there are equally great numbers of newbies and wannabes. Oh, and for the whole thing about piracy is restricted to people who ransom and live their lives in low-sec - shut up please! Piracy is exploting other people for your own benefit. Whether you suicide gank in high-sec, ransom in low-sec or go on a killing spree in 0.0, IT'S PIRACY!! Piracy is dead, some say...I say, it's never flourished as it does now!
Specture Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2006.09.28 09:18:00 - [178] Originally by: operated Id have to say niobe , most ppl say verone or ikvar but ikvar in merc coalition now he doesnt pirate anymore , verone well im sure he might be good but how many ppl met him , niobe on other hand , i know and he keeps doiing his thing wich is in the the true sense of pirating killing ppl while losing no ship ever . I vote operated as best pirate in the game, becuase he is the only guy i know to loose a commandship, then go back in 15 mins to same place he got ganked in a t1 version of that ship
IcemansMiner	Posted - 2006.09.28 10:36:00 - [179] I Vote tank
Bomberos	Posted - 2006.09.28 10:43:00 - [180] Edited by: Bomberos on 28/09/2006 10:43:40 Tank CEO and lord Zap and lets not forget about Lord Viceroy
Dracolich North Star Networks	Posted - 2006.09.28 17:08:00 - [181] I dont know about dreaded, but I think Famine has the coolest name ingame, and I like his posts even though I don't always agree with them. But top reason for mentioning him is that, as far as I know, he has been a solo pirate for years, if that doesnt make him dreaded, then at least he gets my respect for that. Other than that, my choice of Tank CEO still stands. But then again, I am pretty clueless about pirates. As a corp, TunDragon and Teddybears have always gotten my respect(too bad they didn't let me in a year ago). If Fedaykin Naib ever turned to piracy, I would choose him anyday though.
Plim Gallente Celestial Apocalypse	Posted - 2006.09.29 04:25:00 - [182] Originally by: Zafriel Tank is famouse for the same things as ginger, just people dont find him annoying as he doesnt post here anymore. People hated him, thought he was a bigheaded arrogant nub back when he actually pirated more. Ginger is the new tank ceo. Maybe if he gets banned soon, in a few yrs time people may talk about the dreaded Ginger. You can't compare ginger to Tank Tank was actually competant when he was most notorious, whearas Ginger is famous for making a fool of himself. ----------------- Victory or death! ... knitting is also an option.
Zarquon Beeblebrox Liberate Vos Ex Inferis	Posted - 2006.09.29 11:06:00 - [183] Originally by: Dracolich As a corp, TunDragon and Teddybears have always gotten my respect(too bad they didn't let me in a year ago). I remember that. As we are nice people it allways was sad to say no to people wanting to join. We just tried so hard to stay small and not grow in numbers to fast. I dont think i lie when i say that 70% of all we said no to would have been a great asset to the corp. As im sure you would have been friend. =) -- Lady Beeblebrox
Xoria Krint The Movement	Posted - 2006.09.29 11:16:00 - [184] Zarquon Beeblebrox Rasta Rocketman Tank CEO ---- My Movies
Dracolich North Star Networks	Posted - 2006.09.29 11:53:00 - [185] Originally by: Zarquon Beeblebrox Originally by: Dracolich As a corp, TunDragon and Teddybears have always gotten my respect(too bad they didn't let me in a year ago). I remember that. As we are nice people it allways was sad to say no to people wanting to join. We just tried so hard to stay small and not grow in numbers to fast. I dont think i lie when i say that 70% of all we said no to would have been a great asset to the corp. As im sure you would have been friend. =) I am glad to see, that you remembered me. 1 year is a long time, and your words warms an old heart, Zarquon. Regarding You saying no at the time being, due to new additions, and you wanted to stay small, only increased my respects tremendously. I must admit my heart took an extra beat, when you and a gang warped to a gate(think it was in 1-smeb), where I still was cloaked about a month ago.
westernstab	Posted - 2006.09.29 12:45:00 - [186] I miss the old pirates MOo wake up!!! Lord ZAP come back... no one has the fame of lord Zap had..
Lufna	Posted - 2006.10.06 07:34:00 - [187] Still i think lordmixx is one of teh best.. flying a dread to pirate in is just bullsh*t imo.. but ok..
Kindro DeCapo	Posted - 2006.10.06 10:57:00 - [188] Skywalker that guy uses a dread to tank station guns
JoCool Caldari Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2006.10.06 11:00:00 - [189] Of course Tank _______________________________________________________________________ Trey Azagthoth > Youre my idol Jocool. I wanna be like Jocool jr. or Jocool the sequel! Oveur > ohnoes jocool
Complacency's Bane Caldari	Posted - 2006.10.06 12:08:00 - [190] Jokers
Kehmor Caldari PAK	Posted - 2006.10.06 12:48:00 - [191] Edited by: Kehmor on 06/10/2006 12:49:04 ginger magician refused to 1v1 me, does that make me the new best? not that I pirate anymore.... oh btw that was sarcasm....
Shamis Orzoz SniggWaffe	Posted - 2006.10.06 14:11:00 - [192] Originally by: Kehmor Edited by: Kehmor on 06/10/2006 12:49:04 ginger magician refused to 1v1 me, does that make me the new best? not that I pirate anymore.... oh btw that was sarcasm.... Not to support Ginger in any way, but anybody with half a brain doesn't accept 1v1's unless they know the other person is trustworthy, which is a rarity. Shamis
Kehmor Caldari PAK	Posted - 2006.10.06 15:12:00 - [193] Originally by: Shamis Orzoz Originally by: Kehmor Edited by: Kehmor on 06/10/2006 12:49:04 ginger magician refused to 1v1 me, does that make me the new best? not that I pirate anymore.... oh btw that was sarcasm.... Not to support Ginger in any way, but anybody with half a brain doesn't accept 1v1's unless they know the other person is trustworthy, which is a rarity. Shamis each to their own, but in this paticular case gingy challenged me and upon my acceptance decided i was "unworthy"
Ryle Caldari Righteous-Indignation	Posted - 2006.10.06 17:27:00 - [194] Lord Zap is my alt. (queue laughter for 2 1/2 year old joke) I guess my vote for the three most infamous pirates in the history of Eve would have to be: Lord Zap Tank CEO Viceroy Honorable mentions go to: The original cast of m0o (between 2003-2004, especially during the gank-Maller and Concord killing sprees) The original members of The Legitimate Buisinessman's Club (especially Cloud Alexander, the only hostile pilot I've ever been podded by... and twice.) As of right now? Verone and Ign0raMus are the only big names that stand out. Honestly there aren't a lot of "big name" pirates out there these days. ------------------------------- -If you're going through Hell... Keep going.-
tufs Caldari Armoured Assassins Blood of the Innocents	Posted - 2006.10.06 18:03:00 - [195] Originally by: Lucian Alucard Lordmix or Tank Ceo,I think Tank still has the most kill mails of any player in the game. Lordmix is GOD! Concord just doesnt know it yet.
lordmix Caldari Armoured Assassins Blood of the Innocents	Posted - 2006.10.06 18:10:00 - [196] Originally by: Nyssa Dakalsai Iknoob's a carebear now (and after talking to him i can never take him as a serious pirate) Verone, well Verone used to touch a friend of mine, nuff said. I went hunting for Tank CEO a few years back, but i couldnt lock him down(nothing to do with stabs tho, he was just a crafty bastard trying to stay alive) As for mixy, i have to give it to the old ASS crew, they killed me first and made me ****e in my pants the first proper battle we had My Raven went down so fast... But after flying with him, hes a cool guy.so LordMix 4TW thxs i love yew tew
Mac Knife Gallente The Black Rabbits	Posted - 2006.10.06 20:32:00 - [197] Fist and Jexter
Malicious Wraith The Dark Side of the Moon	Posted - 2006.10.07 02:52:00 - [198] Let Player Skill speak, not this thread, or any opinions of other people. ----------------------------------------
Amarrian Android Viziam	Posted - 2006.10.08 10:15:00 - [199] Originally by: Fitz Chivalry ... The only pirate that causes any "fear" is ign0ramus and thats just because he is flying a 30bn isk mothership that you have exactly zero chance to kill. The rest I have ever seen are not better or worse or much different to your average alliance gank squad IMO. Ign0raMus and his Nyx win.

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