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Commander Insignia Di-Tron Heavy Industries Fatal Ascension 2	Posted - 2014.11.25 16:24:43 - [31] - Quote CCP FoxFour wrote: Ama Scelesta wrote: RIP ISBoxer? ISBoxer has some great uses outside of it's broadcasting functions. So maybe, but probably not. it really doesnt
eiedu Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation 7	Posted - 2014.11.25 16:24:51 - [32] - Quote RIP incursions RIP Ratting RIP bombing Time to go back to wow, where it makes no sense to have multiple accounts How are you even going to "catch" people who are input-multiplexing hardware-wise
Fonac Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 98	Posted - 2014.11.25 16:25:59 - [33] - Quote Steve Ronuken wrote: Fonac wrote: So is-boxer is banned? edit: I Honestly dont care about is-boxer or what it can do, since i've never used it, or met anyone who uses it. But the OP is not very clear on it. isboxer isn't banned. Some of the things isboxer can do are banned. I'm seriously lacking faith in the eve population, that they can understand such a policy... All it takes is a few clicks, and bam you're doing something illegal.
Anonymous Forumposter State War Academy Caldari State 123	Posted - 2014.11.25 16:26:07 - [34] - Quote eiedu wrote: RIP incursions RIP Ratting RIP bombing Time to go back to wow, where it makes no sense to have multiple accounts How are you even going to "catch" people who are input-multiplexing hardware-wise Bye :)
War Kitten Panda McLegion 5526	Posted - 2014.11.25 16:26:13 - [35] - Quote DragonHelm III wrote: CCP FoxFour wrote: Ama Scelesta wrote: RIP ISBoxer? ISBoxer has some great uses outside of it's broadcasting functions. So maybe, but probably not. For god's sake CCP stop all the bluster and give a straight answer ISBOXER banned or not? It just needs a yes or no All this crap about terms like Input Broadcasting and Input Multiplexing mean squat to me as I have no idea what they are. For these things, yes it is banned. Quote: This includes, but isnGÇÖt limited to: GÇó Activation and control of ships and modules GÇó Navigation and movement within the EVE universe GÇó Movement of assets and items within the EVE universe GÇó Interaction with other characters It seemed pretty clear to me. I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all.
Mierin Arthie Enlightened Industries Goonswarm Federation 0	Posted - 2014.11.25 16:26:29 - [36] - Quote How does this policy update regard the usage of KVM switches to control multiple computers from one mouse/keyboard? for those that dont know what a kvm switch is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KVM_switch
Robert Harris Black Omega Security Goonswarm Federation 1	Posted - 2014.11.25 16:26:29 - [37] - Quote About time, dont know why this took so long.... finally CCP, well done.
Anthar Thebess 809	Posted - 2014.11.25 16:26:34 - [38] - Quote Thank you CCP. We where waiting for this. When we will get list of sov changes ... and those changes. PHOEBE Retrospective
Chingy Chonga Ministry of War Amarr Empire 3	Posted - 2014.11.25 16:26:36 - [39] - Quote Thank you for finally straightening this out! o7 CCP
Lyron-Baktos Future Corps Sleeper Social Club 468	Posted - 2014.11.25 16:26:38 - [40] - Quote Jesus, can you be any more vague Falcon? How the fuck do you remove a signature?

Kenneth Feld Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion 163	Posted - 2014.11.25 16:26:49 - [41] - Quote So, does this mean no more Mac support?
Kono Lotus Helios Alliance Tactical Narcotics Team 1	Posted - 2014.11.25 16:27:11 - [42] - Quote so this means using keyboard macro's will be prohibited? regards
Querns GBS Logistics and Fives Support Goonswarm Federation 1051	Posted - 2014.11.25 16:27:21 - [43] - Quote Commander Insignia wrote: CCP FoxFour wrote: Ama Scelesta wrote: RIP ISBoxer? ISBoxer has some great uses outside of it's broadcasting functions. So maybe, but probably not. it really doesnt It's moderately useful for manual multiboxing. When I was more active with Goonswarm Federation's combat special interest groups, I'd use isboxer to make it a little easier to switch between windows, and to tile windows across my screen. I'm not technically apt enough to understand how to do input multiplexing properly, and the type of PvP I was doing wasn't really conducive to it anyways. That being said, the primary benefit for using it is definitely being castrated. This post was crafted by the wormhole expert of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online economics and gameplay.
The Ironfist Nordbot Capitals Northern Associates. 71	Posted - 2014.11.25 16:27:40 - [44] - Quote CCP FoxFour wrote: Ama Scelesta wrote: RIP ISBoxer? To be clear, Input broadcasting (whether done through ISBoxer or any other method) will be banned. However some other uses of ISBoxer (like window management) are not being banned. How about fixing your fu!cking ga!rbage client? So we don't have to use 3th party software to get decent window management? Its not like we're paying your sh!tty company right?
Nimrod vanHall Martyr's Vengence Nulli Secunda 98	Posted - 2014.11.25 16:28:07 - [45] - Quote Corey Lean wrote: This is a good change and can only lead to a healthier game. Much courage, much respect Amen! GÇóFake edit: dafuq i'm agreeing with a Goon!GÇó
Nick Moretti Jump Drive Appreciation Society Test Alliance Please Ignore 3	Posted - 2014.11.25 16:28:13 - [46] - Quote Goodbye ISBoxer (for the most part), you won't be missed.
Tarsas Phage Freight Club 338	Posted - 2014.11.25 16:28:18 - [47] - Quote The poor 1-account pubbies who would rather complain to mom about rules instead of upping their game win again.
Frozen Hairdresser Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective 0	Posted - 2014.11.25 16:28:30 - [48] - Quote Just to be clear, are we still allowed to bind all our hardeners to the same key?
Seandals Derp Legion Hobo Division 0	Posted - 2014.11.25 16:28:40 - [49] - Quote Soooo... What if we used wooden dowels: https://sites.google.com/site/khromtor/_/rsrc/1300193073723/home/closeup2.jpg ? from https://sites.google.com/site/khromtor/oldrigs
Warr Akini Bat Country Goonswarm Federation 161	Posted - 2014.11.25 16:28:59 - [50] - Quote I've had a good suicide ganking run, but the wave of nerfs against it don't seem to be stopping anytime soon. Thanks. It's been fun.

War Kitten Panda McLegion 5526	Posted - 2014.11.25 16:29:09 - [51] - Quote Mierin Arthie wrote: How does this policy update regard the usage of KVM switches to control multiple computers from one mouse/keyboard? for those that dont know what a kvm switch is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KVM_switch That doesn't broadcast, it just changes where input goes - it should be fine. I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all.
Nick Starkey Future Corps Sleeper Social Club 99	Posted - 2014.11.25 16:29:32 - [52] - Quote I am impressed by CCP's decisions that might hurt their wallet in the short term, but are of positive effect to the game in long term. This is a very welcome change and this comes from someone that has actually used and seen what that tool can do. well done. I'm curious how you're going to find out/enforce for sure if people are broadcasting commands, though. ..
Alp Khan GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 258	Posted - 2014.11.25 16:29:42 - [53] - Quote Never establish a rule that you cannot enforce with considerable accuracy.
Volcane Nephilim The Magic Roundabout Initiative 4	Posted - 2014.11.25 16:30:24 - [54] - Quote Mierin Arthie wrote: How does this policy update regard the usage of KVM switches to control multiple computers from one mouse/keyboard? for those that dont know what a kvm switch is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KVM_switch You're not broadcasting a command to multiple clients in that case. You are choosing a different computer to do something manually on. This seems totally legit and inline with the post to me? +1 to banning input broadcasters of all description.
Capqu Love Squad Confederation of xXPIZZAXx 858	Posted - 2014.11.25 16:30:25 - [55] - Quote Lyron-Baktos wrote: Jesus, can you be any more vague Falcon? ill explain for u u can no longer press one button, and have things happen on more than one client you can still use isboxer to tile ur clients on the same screen you still can't automate pushing a button https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPntjTPWgKE
Stephan Schneider Love Squad Confederation of xXPIZZAXx 2	Posted - 2014.11.25 16:30:28 - [56] - Quote all the lost money for ccp i can see hundreds of mining alts just die just change it so the ban only goes for pvp related activities
eiedu Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation 7	Posted - 2014.11.25 16:30:38 - [57] - Quote Also, let's unsub 10% of the accounts cus we can't use em anymore
DaReaper Net 7 1365	Posted - 2014.11.25 16:30:40 - [58] - Quote DragonHelm III wrote: CCP FoxFour wrote: Ama Scelesta wrote: RIP ISBoxer? ISBoxer has some great uses outside of it's broadcasting functions. So maybe, but probably not. For god's sake CCP stop all the bluster and give a straight answer ISBOXER banned or not? It just needs a yes or no All this crap about terms like Input Broadcasting and Input Multiplexing mean squat to me as I have no idea what they are. Its not that hard to understand. If you use isbox as a way to organize multiple clients to make it easier to see what going on, then its allowed. if you use isbox to send input to all yoru clients its not allowed. Allowed: ISbox set up so you can easily manage your miner, hauler, and pvp escort without the need to alt tab Not allowed: isboxer setup you you lock a target with one key stroke and 20 clients all lock the same target. Understand? OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!
Innominate GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 604	Posted - 2014.11.25 16:30:54 - [59] - Quote https://sites.google.com/site/khromtor/oldrigs What's the ruling on a setup like this?
EvilweaselFinance BUTTECORP INC Goonswarm Federation 345	Posted - 2014.11.25 16:30:56 - [60] - Quote Seandals wrote: Soooo... What if we used wooden dowels: https://sites.google.com/site/khromtor/_/rsrc/1300193073723/home/closeup2.jpg ? from https://sites.google.com/site/khromtor/oldrigs come on people read the whole thing: Quote: "We would like to clarify that it does not matter how Input Broadcasting and Input Multiplexing are being done, whether through use of software or modified hardware. Our only concern is regarding how it is being used in the EVE universe."



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