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CCP Fozzie C C P C C P Alliance 12052	Posted - 2014.11.27 16:43:08 - [1] - Quote Hello! For Rhea we are making some adjustments to small sized Beam Lasers, to improve their competitiveness against similar weapons (most notably Pulse Lasers and Railguns). The changes are: +50% Damage Multiplier -20% Rate of Fire +25% Capacitor Need -10% Tracking +10% Optimal Range Decreased Falloff: -33.3% for Dual Light Beams, -37.5% for Small Focused Beams ~17% decrease in CPU use for Dual Light Beams, ~5% decrease in CPU use for Small Focused Beams The end result is +20% DPS, unchanged Cap/s, more alpha strike, slightly lower effective range with shortrange ammo and slightly more effective range with longrange ammo. These changes are on SISI for your testing pleasure, feel free to give them a try and let us know what you think! Game Designer \| Team Five-0 https://twitter.com/CCP_Fozzie http://www.twitch.tv/ccp_fozzie/

Adrie Atticus Shadows of Rebellion The Bastion 575	Posted - 2014.11.27 17:01:35 - [2] - Quote So because a short-range weapons system is better at long range (Scorch) than the long range system, instead of adjusting the problematic system and restore balance, you start the power creep? I'm expecting blaster and projectile buffs with the respective ships, kkty.
Hanazava Karyna The Foundation Of Mammon 11	Posted - 2014.11.27 17:04:01 - [3] - Quote So, finally, small beams are good to use? Large can be used to detent PvE so now I'm waiting for medium ones. Good changes, thanks a lot.
Owen Levanth Sagittarius Unlimited Exploration 351	Posted - 2014.11.27 17:05:14 - [4] - Quote Adrie Atticus wrote: So because a short-range weapons system is better at long range (Scorch) than the long range system, instead of adjusting the problematic system and restore balance, you start the power creep? I'm expecting blaster and projectile buffs with the respective ships, kkty. They're doing both, the small pulse lasers are getting a small range nerf. See the other thread.

CCP Fozzie C C P C C P Alliance 12052	Posted - 2014.11.27 17:05:52 - [5] - Quote Hanazava Karyna wrote: So, finally, small beams are good to use? Large can be used to detent PvE so now I'm waiting for medium ones. Good changes, thanks a lot. Medium Beams aren't perfect, but I think you'll find them in fairly decent shape since the Odyssey 1.1 changes. Game Designer \| Team Five-0 https://twitter.com/CCP_Fozzie http://www.twitch.tv/ccp_fozzie/

Klingon Admiral Black Hole Cluster 75	Posted - 2014.11.27 17:06:53 - [6] - Quote CCP Fozzie wrote: The end result is +20% DPS, unchanged Cap/s, more alpha strike, slightly lower effective range with shortrange ammo and slightly more effective range with longrange ammo. Shouldn't it be a 25% Damage increase, as 1.5/1.2 = 1.25?

CCP Fozzie C C P C C P Alliance 12053	Posted - 2014.11.27 17:09:07 - [7] - Quote Klingon Admiral wrote: CCP Fozzie wrote: The end result is +20% DPS, unchanged Cap/s, more alpha strike, slightly lower effective range with shortrange ammo and slightly more effective range with longrange ammo. Shouldn't it be a 25% Damage increase, as 1.5/1.2 = 1.25? -20% Rate of Fire is the same as +25% time between shots. So it's actually 1.5/1.25 = 1.2. It's tough to find clear terminology here, unfortunately. Game Designer \| Team Five-0 https://twitter.com/CCP_Fozzie http://www.twitch.tv/ccp_fozzie/

Arkon Olacar Bearded BattleBears Brave Collective 452	Posted - 2014.11.27 17:10:22 - [8] - Quote CCP Fozzie wrote: Hanazava Karyna wrote: So, finally, small beams are good to use? Large can be used to detent PvE so now I'm waiting for medium ones. Good changes, thanks a lot. Medium Beams aren't perfect, but I think you'll find them in fairly decent shape since the Odyssey 1.1 changes. Confirming beam legion master race Warping to zero
Bienator II madmen of the skies 2983	Posted - 2014.11.27 17:17:30 - [9] - Quote edit, nevermind confused the beam with the pulse thread eve style bounties (done) dust boarding parties imagine there is war and everybody cloaks - join FW
Harvey James The Sengoku Legacy 979	Posted - 2014.11.27 17:20:18 - [10] - Quote CCP Fozzie wrote: Klingon Admiral wrote: CCP Fozzie wrote: The end result is +20% DPS, unchanged Cap/s, more alpha strike, slightly lower effective range with shortrange ammo and slightly more effective range with longrange ammo. Shouldn't it be a 25% Damage increase, as 1.5/1.2 = 1.25? -20% Rate of Fire is the same as +25% time between shots. So it's actually 1.5/1.25 = 1.2. It's tough to find clear terminology here, unfortunately. you sure about keeping the cap the same on lasers in general? . Tech 3's need to be multi role ships not cruiser hulls with battleship tank and insane resists ABC's are clearly T2 in all but name.. remove drone assist mechanic. Nerf web strength ..... Make the blaster eagle worth using please

TrouserDeagle Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel 881	Posted - 2014.11.27 17:24:13 - [11] - Quote why only small beams? the other size beams are useless as well. edit: and can you look at renaming the meta 4 lasers? modulated pulse energy beam and modulated energy beam is just horrible.
Bienator II madmen of the skies 2983	Posted - 2014.11.27 17:27:08 - [12] - Quote any changes to aurora/spike ammo? The tracking penalty is insane, i never managed to make anything work when aurora is loaded, even special tracking optimized fits. (will be even worse now with the nerfed turret tracking) eve style bounties (done) dust boarding parties imagine there is war and everybody cloaks - join FW
elitatwo Eve Minions Poopstain Removal Team 486	Posted - 2014.11.27 17:34:33 - [13] - Quote Bienator II wrote: any changes to aurora/spike ammo? The tracking penalty is insane, i never managed to make anything work when aurora is loaded, even special tracking optimized fits. (will be even worse now with the nerfed turret tracking) Try a beamtasm signature
Kaarous Aldurald Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 10728	Posted - 2014.11.27 17:40:27 - [14] - Quote Very nice. Now there's actually a reason to fit them at all. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." One of ours, ten of theirs.
Makoto Priano Priano Trans-Stellar State Services Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 6493	Posted - 2014.11.27 17:46:20 - [15] - Quote Sounds good to me! When I hopped on Sisi to try fitting out a Confessor, I completely ignored small beams and went straight to the pulse. Now it seems there's another option. Priano Trans-Stellar: elegant solutions for the State's needs.
Rivr Luzade Coreli Corporation Ineluctable. 1003	Posted - 2014.11.27 17:50:16 - [16] - Quote Arkon Olacar wrote: Confirming beam legion master race Rail Tengus/Proteii want to have a word with you.
Liam Inkuras Mafia Redux 1339	Posted - 2014.11.27 18:03:11 - [17] - Quote LOL rip garmurs I wear my goggles at night. Any spelling/grammatical errors come complimentary with my typing on a phone
Altrue Exploration Frontier inc Brave Collective 1441	Posted - 2014.11.27 18:42:12 - [18] - Quote Nice changes, but honestly, small blasters need more love than small beams... Signature Tanking - Best Tanking
Bienator II madmen of the skies 2983	Posted - 2014.11.27 19:01:14 - [19] - Quote elitatwo wrote: Bienator II wrote: any changes to aurora/spike ammo? The tracking penalty is insane, i never managed to make anything work when aurora is loaded, even special tracking optimized fits. (will be even worse now with the nerfed turret tracking) Try a beamtasm topic is, small beams m8 eve style bounties (done) dust boarding parties imagine there is war and everybody cloaks - join FW
Swiftstrike1 Swiftstrike Incorporated 836	Posted - 2014.11.27 19:02:07 - [20] - Quote I look forward to these changes. #L4Z0RZ-4RE-F0REV3R Targeting, Sensors and ECM Overhaul

elitatwo Eve Minions Poopstain Removal Team 486	Posted - 2014.11.27 19:03:14 - [21] - Quote Why -10% tracking?? Laser tracking isn't the highest and Gleam S/M/L don't help that much. signature
TrouserDeagle Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel 883	Posted - 2014.11.27 19:05:14 - [22] - Quote elitatwo wrote: Why -10% tracking?? Laser tracking isn't the highest and Gleam S/M/L don't help that much. beam laser tracking is the highest of the LR guns.
Capqu Love Squad Confederation of xXPIZZAXx 911	Posted - 2014.11.27 19:13:46 - [23] - Quote ishtars? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPntjTPWgKE
Viribus Love Squad Confederation of xXPIZZAXx 308	Posted - 2014.11.27 19:14:26 - [24] - Quote CCP Fozzie wrote: Hanazava Karyna wrote: So, finally, small beams are good to use? Large can be used to detent PvE so now I'm waiting for medium ones. Good changes, thanks a lot. Medium Beams aren't perfect, but I think you'll find them in fairly decent shape since the Odyssey 1.1 changes. i think you'll find that nobody uses medium beams and no one ever will as long as railguns are in their current state watch me be a scurb and get owned
Capqu Love Squad Confederation of xXPIZZAXx 911	Posted - 2014.11.27 19:16:17 - [25] - Quote small beams are probably also more common in pvp than heavy missiles when are those 2008 nerfs in 2011 getting reverted https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPntjTPWgKE
Capqu Love Squad Confederation of xXPIZZAXx 912	Posted - 2014.11.27 19:22:54 - [26] - Quote it seems to me like long range guns are being expected to do too much damage in eve 2014 used to be that u lost damage w long range weapons now u just lose tracking p o w e r c r e e p rest in peas malediction 2014-2014 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPntjTPWgKE
Viribus Love Squad Confederation of xXPIZZAXx 308	Posted - 2014.11.27 19:25:00 - [27] - Quote Capqu wrote: ishtars? i think you'll find that a 65k EHP cruiser that can easily fit a 100mn AB and do 600dps at 80km with mega pulse tracking is in fact perfectly balanced, since they occasionally abandon drones, losing precious seconds of DPS right-clicking your drone bay and pressing "launch" i mean they nerfed the optimal + tracking bonus from 7.5 to 5, what more could you possibly want??? watch me be a scurb and get owned
Capqu Love Squad Confederation of xXPIZZAXx 913	Posted - 2014.11.27 19:29:21 - [28] - Quote Viribus wrote: Capqu wrote: ishtars? i think you'll find that a 65k EHP cruiser that can easily fit a 100mn AB and do 600dps at 80km with mega pulse tracking is in fact perfectly balanced, since they occasionally abandon drones, losing precious seconds of DPS right-clicking your drone bay and pressing "launch" i mean the PVP savants of CCP nerfed the optimal + tracking bonus from 7.5 to 5, what more could you possibly want??? i know we're in the same alice but ur crazy those numbers look a little TOO balanced to me like why couldnt the ishtar be balanced in the same way that rockets are balanced if u know what i mean https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPntjTPWgKE
Capqu Love Squad Confederation of xXPIZZAXx 913	Posted - 2014.11.27 19:31:28 - [29] - Quote they suck https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPntjTPWgKE
Danny John-Peter Snuff Box Snuffed Out 564	Posted - 2014.11.27 19:32:19 - [30] - Quote Viribus wrote: CCP Fozzie wrote: Hanazava Karyna wrote: So, finally, small beams are good to use? Large can be used to detent PvE so now I'm waiting for medium ones. Good changes, thanks a lot. Medium Beams aren't perfect, but I think you'll find them in fairly decent shape since the Odyssey 1.1 changes. i think you'll find that nobody uses medium beams and no one ever will as long as railguns are in their current state Apart from all those groups that use Beam Legions or Beam Absos.



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