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Scholic Hockenbearee
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Posted - 2006.09.03 06:36:00 -
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As a relative newcomer, I'd like to get a sense of what ships are make the best "lone wolves" in the PvP arena. If you can, describe briefly why you think your choices are the best.
I'm not trying to start a flame war or anything; I just want to learn more about the PvP aspect of the game from more experienced players, so...
Have at it 
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Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.09.03 06:37:00 -
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Edited by: Jim McGregor on 03/09/2006 06:42:43
I made a post about this a while ago.. asking people to mention ships they prefered for solo & small group pvp. Then I went through the pages and counted the number of times the ships was mentioned.
All the top 5 ships was gallente.
The Vagabond is probably the best for solo pvp though, since you can hit & run with it without getting blobbed to death. Its just that fast. But these days, the cost of them are approaching 300 million so only the very rich, or the ones with the blueprints, are using them.
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Don Elmus
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Posted - 2006.09.03 06:45:00 -
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 Originally by: Jim McGregor
Edited by: Jim McGregor on 03/09/2006 06:42:43
I made a post about this a while ago.. asking people to mention ships they prefered for solo & small group pvp. Then I went through the pages and counted the number of times the ships was mentioned.
All the top 5 ships was gallente.
The Vagabond is probably the best for solo pvp though, since you can hit & run with it without getting blobbed to death. Its just that fast. But these days, the cost of them are approaching 300 million so only the very rich, or the ones with the blueprints, are using them.
Don't think anything below Capital ships can kill a properly fitted/captained Dominix - if it is 1 on 1. And it is only about 60 mil.
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Hayabusa Fury
Caldari
Wu-Tang Financial
Mordus Angels
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Posted - 2006.09.03 06:52:00 -
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Originally by: Jim McGregor
Edited by: Jim McGregor on 03/09/2006 06:42:43
I made a post about this a while ago.. asking people to mention ships they prefered for solo & small group pvp. Then I went through the pages and counted the number of times the ships was mentioned.
All the top 5 ships was gallente.
The Vagabond is probably the best for solo pvp though, since you can hit & run with it without getting blobbed to death. Its just that fast. But these days, the cost of them are approaching 300 million so only the very rich, or the ones with the blueprints, are using them.
And all this time I thought Caldari was the win button!!!!
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Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.09.03 06:54:00 -
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Originally by: Hayabusa Fury
And all this time I thought Caldari was the win button!!!!
No, only the Raven. 
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Samirol
Ore Mongers
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Posted - 2006.09.03 06:55:00 -
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Originally by: Hayabusa Fury
Originally by: Jim McGregor
Edited by: Jim McGregor on 03/09/2006 06:42:43
I made a post about this a while ago.. asking people to mention ships they prefered for solo & small group pvp. Then I went through the pages and counted the number of times the ships was mentioned.
All the top 5 ships was gallente.
The Vagabond is probably the best for solo pvp though, since you can hit & run with it without getting blobbed to death. Its just that fast. But these days, the cost of them are approaching 300 million so only the very rich, or the ones with the blueprints, are using them.
And all this time I thought Caldari was the win button!!!!
they are for npcing 
Honestly, gallente ships are absolutely deadly at point blank range, and from my experience, that is what most small gang/solo combat is
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Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
Kimotoro Directive
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Posted - 2006.09.03 06:56:00 -
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Originally by: Jim McGregor
Originally by: Hayabusa Fury
And all this time I thought Caldari was the win button!!!!
No, only the Raven.
And only for NPCing.
Sorry you can't afford a dev so you get me instead ^^ - Xorus |
Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.09.03 06:59:00 -
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Edited by: Jim McGregor on 03/09/2006 07:00:44
Originally by: Malthros Zenobia
Originally by: Jim McGregor
Originally by: Hayabusa Fury
And all this time I thought Caldari was the win button!!!!
No, only the Raven.
And only for NPCing.
No, Raven is a excellent small group pvp ship. It can tank better than almost anyone else and still deliver dps only beaten by megathron or armageddon. I posted a chart yesterday showing the effects of the 2 invuln + EM hardener shield tank... conclusion is that its very hard to break using dps only. Nos ftw I guess, but raven usually have 2 of his own.
Of course you dont even need to tank if you use ecm.
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Hayabusa Fury
Caldari
Wu-Tang Financial
Mordus Angels
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Posted - 2006.09.03 07:02:00 -
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Originally by: Malthros Zenobia
Originally by: Jim McGregor
Originally by: Hayabusa Fury
And all this time I thought Caldari was the win button!!!!
No, only the Raven.
And only for NPCing.
And does that really matter then? It's not like you can't NPC in anything else.
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Samirol
Ore Mongers
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Posted - 2006.09.03 07:31:00 -
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Originally by: Hayabusa Fury
Originally by: Malthros Zenobia
Originally by: Jim McGregor
Originally by: Hayabusa Fury
And all this time I thought Caldari was the win button!!!!
No, only the Raven.
And only for NPCing.
And does that really matter then? It's not like you can't NPC in anything else.
it would be like driving in a 1950 pickup when you could be driving a ferrari, and your objective would be getting as much speed as possible. The raven simply outperforms
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MysticNZ
Solstice Systems Development Concourse
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Posted - 2006.09.03 08:17:00 -
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I love soloing in my rupture with t2 guns, just rips up.
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I heard that *beats player with big stick* now be a good carebear and mine me some veldspar  - Xorus |
Hayabusa Fury
Caldari
Wu-Tang Financial
Mordus Angels
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Posted - 2006.09.03 08:37:00 -
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Originally by: Samirol
Originally by: Hayabusa Fury
Originally by: Malthros Zenobia
Originally by: Jim McGregor
Originally by: Hayabusa Fury
And all this time I thought Caldari was the win button!!!!
No, only the Raven.
And only for NPCing.
And does that really matter then? It's not like you can't NPC in anything else.
it would be like driving in a 1950 pickup when you could be driving a ferrari, and your objective would be getting as much speed as possible. The raven simply outperforms
Colorful and creative. It makes me laugh. But, I doubt the contrast is that skewed.
My point is that role for the Raven doesn't warrant the OMG Caldari are over powered and the win button. I see to many whine threads about caldari and I don't really see where the Caldari ships are the top in any class to the point that all other ships are obsolete. Maybe Stealth Bomber?!?
BS for example: Raven not best PVP BS and all ships can use EW so Scorp turns into weakest BS in game. So the 2 weakest flagships in game are Caldari.
We don't have the best BC's, HAC's, AF's, or Hauler's.
Maybe you can argue SB, Inty, Miner(Osprey). I also argue that Caldari are the easiest in the early game for newer players. But that doesn't mean anything for 0.0 vets.
Gallente really appear to be the win button at the moment even though most players are Caldari.
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Perry
Amarr
The X-Trading Company
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.03 08:55:00 -
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Best Solo PvP Ships ingame atm are in my opinion:
1) Vagabound
It has the Damage and Speed to kill quick and escape even from a good organised hostile Gang. Only a Bubble, multiple webs and Scrambs and a damage dealer can bring it down. It will gank your enemies and your wallet in no time. 
2) Pilgrim
Dont we all love the Nos/Ecm/Drone combo of doom? Add a Covert Cloak and your enemy will not even have time to spell "wtfpwned?" in local. Best used as belt ganker with two Scramblers, damn stabs. 
3) Ishtar/Dominix
No Cloak but even more Pwnage because of multiple waves of Heavy Drones. These things hurt! Dont get outblobbed. Good as roaming vehicles and gatecampers. Can fight multiple hostiles at once if done right.
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Jena Val'Nedra
THE MISPHIT'S
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Posted - 2006.09.03 09:11:00 -
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Everytime someone mentions that such and such a ship is crap I meet someone fully capable of kicking ass in one.
It all depends on the situation opposition etc etc and even more importantly the fitting people are using.
There is only one answer to this question. The best ship to pvp in is the one you have fun flying in. With the fitting you like. (Cheapness is good though )
The only ship I have come across that can seriously struggle in solo pvp is the retribution and I saw one guy who had got round this inability to fit a scrammer by bumping the heck out of people.
I have met maller's with autocannons and uber tanks. Moa's with blasters and Nos (Element of surprise or what!)
Ravens with Neuts and Torp Launchers going up close and personal with Blasterthrons.
I guess what I am trying to say is that there is no substitute for fitting up a ship you like the look of and then testing it on a corpmate. And for learning what your corpmates setups are etc and trying to counter them etc etc.
Plus if you can get a ship to work that the common player thinks is sucky you are likely to be able to get cheap deals on it... :)
Also surprise can be your best ally in a fight. No'one expects a Exequeror to suddenly turn on em with a vast supply of boost charges and drones and their fancy AF to get Nos'd and droned to death... :)
Dont get me wrong however, gather as many opinions and setups as possible. Just when all is done filter em assimilate em and apply what they have said to your setups.
And always tweak. Occasionally tweaking fails hilariously but you learn more from being popped than popping someone.
(Sorry for not actually answering the question!)
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inSpirAcy
Caldari
The Solopwnmobiles
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Posted - 2006.09.03 09:16:00 -
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I don't think one could list the "top" ships for solo PvP, as it depends on your budget, style and skills. But my current favourite ones are:
Ishkur - This is what AFs are meant to be. With the majority of your damage output in drones you can come up with all kinds of fun fits for this baby.
Brutix - The best PvP BC hands down. In gank mode it can rival the DPS of most battleships, or fit a powerful tank for short term fights.
Thorax - The classic solopwnmobile cruiser. Fit the way most people try and it's a sub-par Vexor. Fit correctly, it's as evil as it ever was. 
All Gallente. As a dedicated EVE soloist, I can tell you they are the race built for soloing. Lots of mids, heavy and fast damage, powerful unsustainable tanks and MWD for getting in and out.
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Testicular Testes
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Posted - 2006.09.03 09:47:00 -
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Originally by: Hayabusa Fury
BS for example: Raven not best PVP BS and all ships can use EW so Scorp turns into weakest BS in game. So the 2 weakest flagships in game are Caldari.
Sweet jesus, that is the worst rationalization ever. Getting a bonus to the most effective type of warfare does make the Scorpion the single most effective gang BS around, followed by the Javelin Raven as the king of damage dealers for skirmish-sized engagements (along with the versatility for a tank or EW). Not only does the Raven outperform in raw damage dealt during an actual fight (huge volley damage in addition to at least two free volleys in comparison to any shortrange turret BS), it also gets to choose the perfect type most drastically of any BS - even the notorious Dominix can only pick two heavy drones, two mediums and one light drone set. All the while the Raven gets these goodies while maintaining full alignment and doing plenty of damage to cruisers.
Speaking of the Dominix, it's badly overrated. Badly limited range and manueverability, limited damage output letting decent tanks hold until the injectors run out and all that. It's still the easiest battleship to solo (and has great versatility for alternate setups), but being in a class that doesn't really solo well against anything but itself that doesn't mean too much.
Anyway, Damp Raven > Domi. Damp or ECM Raven + tackler = dead Domi. The advent of EC-300/600s in general has made Domis quite beatable by almost anyone really.
As for actual soloing ships ? Most T2 cruisers can be molded into something pretty sweet for solowork. Caldari do have it roughest in that department for pure soloing, but they make up for it by being the best without even remote competition in small and large gangs.
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Verus Potestas
Caldari
Fiat Mort
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Posted - 2006.09.03 09:51:00 -
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I'd say:
Vagabond
Dominix
Pilgrim
Caldari really do suck at solo PvP.
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Enigmier
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Posted - 2006.09.03 09:51:00 -
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there are so many good 1v1 PvP ships out there atm, the game is realy quite well balanced in that respect, sure there are a few donkeys in amongst them all but the vast majority are cool, all suiting different situations, here are a few
rifter/punisher, the 2 best frigs for solo atm, i would say the rifter has the slight edge with better skills, but there realy isnt that much between them
rupture/thorax, again too close to call between these 2 fantastic t1 cruisers, as far as bang for buck goes, these ships are probably the best ingame
BS, most BS can do 1v1 in some fasion, ships with 5 med slots or more do seem to have a slight advantage over the ships with lesser med slots, but dont underestimate andything when it comes to BS class ships, they can all perform well in certain situations, but the ships that cover the most situations are domi/raven/scorp/tempest with the phoon and mega and arma in the next class
T2 ships, all these babys have intended roles, vagabonds are ultimatly king of solo PvP atm just because of their control factor, you can get in and get out when needed, you have great resists to your sheilds which free`s up your low slots for damage mods (ehem stabs)
frig sized t2 stuff is fairly well balanced, enyo is a great little 1v1 and so is the jag since its make over, hawk/harpy are decent too
thats about all i can be arsed to type, much more variety in the game tbh and alot fo ship you cn make effective, it all about knowlege of ships and modules, get an idea of what you want in a ship and figure out your own setups, some might stink no doubt but you never know when you come across a setup that works for you
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Phrixus Zephyr
Singularity.
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Posted - 2006.09.03 10:55:00 -
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Taranis \o/
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Jake Stevens
Lone Wolves
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Posted - 2006.09.03 10:56:00 -
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Originally by: Scholic Hockenbearee
As a relative newcomer, I'd like to get a sense of what ships are make the best "lone wolves" in the PvP arena. If you can, describe briefly why you think your choices are the best.
I'm not trying to start a flame war or anything; I just want to learn more about the PvP aspect of the game from more experienced players, so...
Have at it
¬ You now owe me 100m isk.
But anyway, t1 cruisers can be pretty sweet solo'ers. Thorax, Vexor, Maller.
Just make sure you fit autocannons so you can still fight after being nosed to death
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BOBHOPE
Oberon Incorporated
Prime Orbital Systems
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Posted - 2006.09.03 11:03:00 -
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meh wishes zealot had 1 more mid slot 
then it would be better for solo pvp
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Kunming
Amarr
adeptus gattacus
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.09.03 11:04:00 -
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Stababond
Jagabond
Stabasaber
Well its snake implants and WCS that make these ships uber-'lone wolfs', why? Cause you need a whole fleet to just catch one, so they are excellent to kill NPCers/miners and then run away from any trouble..
BTW I disagree with domi/ishtar/pilgrim, they may be the kings of "1 vs 1" but "1 vs many" the above ships will kill the weak ships (tacklers) in your gang with ease and then run away from the heavy ones.
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inSpirAcy
Caldari
The Solopwnmobiles
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Posted - 2006.09.03 11:06:00 -
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Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr
Taranis \o/
Aha!
I haven't tried the Gallentean interceptors yet but I've heard a lot about the uberranis in the past. How well does it perform solo, out of interest?
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Ginaz
Veto.
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Posted - 2006.09.03 11:27:00 -
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Edited by: Ginaz on 03/09/2006 11:29:03
1) Vagabond
2) Pilgrim
3) AC Pest with good Pilot
P.S.: Any retarded Pilot that fits enough ******* ECM multis in mids and ******* wcs in lows
Video: 'Behind enemy lines'
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Kalek Astroth
Amarr
The Electrocuted
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Posted - 2006.09.03 11:28:00 -
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well ... the game is quite balanced you can use a cheap wolf af or an ishkur for going solo , or going for a very exp. ship like an hac (ishtar , vagabond on top) or just gank ratters with pilgrim (one of the few amar ships that can solo pwn) or jump in a blaster megatron ...
the best ships are gal/min for going solo , but if you can join a small gang (2/3ppl) amar and caldari are ok!
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Sorja
E X O D U S
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.09.03 12:15:00 -
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Originally by: Jim McGregor
blah blah
How can a six monthes old character like you, still in a newb corp know anything about PvP?
Either post with your main or stop talking nonsense, thanx.
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Hayabusa Fury
Caldari
Wu-Tang Financial
Mordus Angels
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Posted - 2006.09.03 12:34:00 -
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Originally by: Testicular Testes
Originally by: Hayabusa Fury
BS for example: Raven not best PVP BS and all ships can use EW so Scorp turns into weakest BS in game. So the 2 weakest flagships in game are Caldari.
Sweet jesus, that is the worst rationalization ever. Getting a bonus to the most effective type of warfare does make the Scorpion the single most effective gang BS around, followed by the Javelin Raven as the king of damage dealers for skirmish-sized engagements (along with the versatility for a tank or EW). Not only does the Raven outperform in raw damage dealt during an actual fight (huge volley damage in addition to at least two free volleys in comparison to any shortrange turret BS), it also gets to choose the perfect type most drastically of any BS - even the notorious Dominix can only pick two heavy drones, two mediums and one light drone set. All the while the Raven gets these goodies while maintaining full alignment and doing plenty of damage to cruisers.
Speaking of the Dominix, it's badly overrated. Badly limited range and manueverability, limited damage output letting decent tanks hold until the injectors run out and all that. It's still the easiest battleship to solo (and has great versatility for alternate setups), but being in a class that doesn't really solo well against anything but itself that doesn't mean too much.
Anyway, Damp Raven > Domi. Damp or ECM Raven + tackler = dead Domi. The advent of EC-300/600s in general has made Domis quite beatable by almost anyone really.
As for actual soloing ships ? Most T2 cruisers can be molded into something pretty sweet for solowork. Caldari do have it roughest in that department for pure soloing, but they make up for it by being the best without even remote competition in small and large gangs.
Holy lord, Raven in theroy is highest DPS maybe, but if the ship is killed before the torps ever get there then it is no good. Thats the point here. Again for Scorp, number theroy and bonus looks good on paper but since it is the weakest BS and always called primary it does little good. plus EWar is so jacked that enough multispecs in any ship is overpowered.
Don't "sweet jesus" me unless you post with your main
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Cohkka
LoneWolf Mining
R i s e
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Posted - 2006.09.03 12:41:00 -
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Originally by: Hayabusa Fury
And all this time I thought Caldari was the win button!!!!
Where is the logic behind this? It's like saying the most expensive HACs would be the best, in that case the Cerberus. Look at the Dom: It's great for solo PvP and to a lesser extend in small groups but it's not an option in fleetbattles.
No doubt Gallente got the best Cruisers there is, they lack in the Frig department, tho. With the Dominix they got a very good BS, after ECM and NOS nerf it will be avarge like the Mega, tho. Caldari and Minmatar have good Frigs and appart from Raven ok BS. Amarr got some graet ships, too. Tho, I must admit they lack diversity and imagination, so they're the least used in solo PvP.
In the end, I must say: Who the hell flies solo anyway? Somehow I always meet my enemys in groups.
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inSpirAcy
Caldari
The Solopwnmobiles
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Posted - 2006.09.03 12:44:00 -
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I'm not sure why people say the Raven can't tank very well. It most certainly can for short periods of time, in much the same way that a dual LAR tank only lasts as long as the cap does.
If you go putting tackling gear or EW in your mids then of course the tank sucks, but fit properly it's pretty powerful. Even the great Farjung lost a Megathron to a solo Raven in his first video.
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Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.09.03 12:45:00 -
[30]
Originally by: Sorja
Originally by: Jim McGregor
blah blah
How can a six monthes old character like you, still in a newb corp know anything about PvP?
Come on now, ive actually read AT LEAST the first page of the Missile Guide...
Maybe you should spend more time actually listening to what people write instead of judging them on their character age. You might actually learn something. :)
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Cohkka
LoneWolf Mining
R i s e
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Posted - 2006.09.03 12:53:00 -
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Originally by: Hayabusa Fury
Holy lord, Raven in theroy is highest DPS maybe, but if the ship is killed before the torps ever get there then it is no good. Thats the point here. Again for Scorp, number theroy and bonus looks good on paper but since it is the weakest BS and always called primary it does little good. plus EWar is so jacked that enough multispecs in any ship is overpowered.
You haven't got the slightest clue what you're talking about. A Javelin Raven almost always turns out on top of a killmail when fights occur at short up to med range. Ravens got a role in longrange fleetbattles, too. With lag playing a major part it's even worse...
Scorpions are great BS. If you can't think of a tactic that lets your Scorp survive, it's your fault. In small skimishes Scorps are diciding the outcome of the battle.
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Tension
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Posted - 2006.09.03 12:56:00 -
[32]
Originally by: Sorja
Originally by: Jim McGregor
blah blah
How can a six monthes old character like you, still in a newb corp know anything about PvP?
Either post with your main or stop talking nonsense, thanx.
I don't see the words 'ISD Moderator' next to your name.
Unless you are a forum moderator, I suggest you stop telling people what character they can and can't post with, ok?
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Kunming
Amarr
adeptus gattacus
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.09.03 13:01:00 -
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Ravens are quite overpowered, and realizing this has nothing to do with being 6 months old or 3 years old or being in Reikoku or Aliastra.. Without using multiple heavy NOS (you need more than 2) you have no chance to beat it 1on1, so NOS-domi/ishtar (which is pretty much the most overpowered ship for 1vs1 atm) is the only ship that can take down a raven, considering both pilots have same level of skills and equipment.
The domi/ishtar (indirect) nerfs are on the way.. NOS and ECM nerf. We had many nerfs cause of the raven (dual MWD nerf, RSD nerf, etc) but I cant remember a nerf to the raven, infact ppl whined about its only weakness (insta DMG) and got 3-4x times faster missiles to compensate. The force (aka Tuxford) has always been with the caldari lobby
Alright on the other hand ships like nighthawk need love..
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Klaus Stoertebeker
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Posted - 2006.09.03 13:07:00 -
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Vagabond, Pilgrim and Taranis.
All 3 of them are incredibly hard to catch and can take a lot ships down solo. (Taranis lacks a bit on firepower though)
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Hayabusa Fury
Caldari
Wu-Tang Financial
Mordus Angels
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Posted - 2006.09.03 13:09:00 -
[35]
Originally by: Cohkka
Originally by: Hayabusa Fury
And all this time I thought Caldari was the win button!!!!
Quote:
Where is the logic behind this?
It was clearly sarcasm.
Where is the logic in all the "Caldari is the win button" threads???
Forums seem to be posted in extremes. For the most part this game is balanced. The BS's margin from worst to best is slim, but there is a list. I just believe Caldari is in the middle somewhere.
Absence of logic is the mindless "Caldari are the best" thoughts. The truth is Gallente seem to be the forerunner at the moment. Not to an overpowered state. Just at the top of the list.
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Hayabusa Fury
Caldari
Wu-Tang Financial
Mordus Angels
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Posted - 2006.09.03 13:16:00 -
[36]
Originally by: Kunming
Ravens are quite overpowered, and realizing this has nothing to do with being 6 months old or 3 years old or being in Reikoku or Aliastra.. Without using multiple heavy NOS (you need more than 2) you have no chance to beat it 1on1, so NOS-domi/ishtar (which is pretty much the most overpowered ship for 1vs1 atm) is the only ship that can take down a raven, considering both pilots have same level of skills and equipment.
The domi/ishtar (indirect) nerfs are on the way.. NOS and ECM nerf. We had many nerfs cause of the raven (dual MWD nerf, RSD nerf, etc) but I cant remember a nerf to the raven, infact ppl whined about its only weakness (insta DMG) and got 3-4x times faster missiles to compensate. The force (aka Tuxford) has always been with the caldari lobby
Alright on the other hand ships like nighthawk need love..
They can't all be overpowered. If the Raven can be beat by what you call the "the most overpowered ship for 1vs1 atm", then that means it is not overpowered at all because the other ships have that title. So once more, Caldari are precieved to be the best and overpowered but they are not.
...and the nighthawk needs love as does Amarr generally
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inSpirAcy
Caldari
The Solopwnmobiles
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Posted - 2006.09.03 13:19:00 -
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Tux has promised us some Nighthawk love when he's finished tweaking assault missiles. 
The two features should come together.
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Jacques Archambault
Forum Moderator
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2006.09.03 14:08:00 -
[38]
thread cleaned.
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Kunming
Amarr
adeptus gattacus
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.09.03 14:23:00 -
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Originally by: Hayabusa Fury
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They can't all be overpowered. If the Raven can be beat by what you call the "the most overpowered ship for 1vs1 atm", then that means it is not overpowered at all because the other ships have that title. So once more, Caldari are precieved to be the best and overpowered but they are not.
...and the nighthawk needs love as does Amarr generally
Drone-boats were the worst ships (less slots, drones were the worst weapon) in EVE until Tuxford decided to make cap more important in combat (NOS became vital) and boosted EW (including ECM) at the same time, hence the NOS + ECM + Drones overpoweredness... The overpoweredness of raven comes from its stats not only from the mods it fits (which is the case with domi/ishtar/etc), raven has straight out more total HP than any BS out there, then it has 2 spare HI-slots which allow it to fit 2 NOS without having to sacrifice much on DPS (2 turrets would both tax PG and be of less use than NOS), slot layout to support both tank and gank at the same time... the only ship that can do this (tank+gank+EW) as good as a raven is a dominix which will be nerfed, so the crown goes back to the old king the raven!!
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Tasty Burger
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Posted - 2006.09.03 14:27:00 -
[40]
Raven ffs
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fairimear
Gallente
S.A.S
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Posted - 2006.09.03 14:30:00 -
[41]
Curse, if i tell ya why i would have to shoot you.
Makeing your npc hunters SS. |
Kunming
Amarr
adeptus gattacus
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.09.03 14:44:00 -
[42]
Originally by: fairimear
Curse, if i tell ya why i would have to shoot you.
Uhmm.. shield tank sustained by NOS with WCS in lows and drones as DPS?.. Just guessing
What would you say, if I said I have a killer setup for lachesis which can take care of 5-7 close range HACs/BSs at the same time, solo? Guess we all have our secret setups
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Chode Rizoum
Minmatar
Finite Horizon
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Posted - 2006.09.03 14:46:00 -
[43]
1. Machariel with 3 points
2. Vagabond.. is nice but with decent fitting it only runs 1 point
3. rage raven with gist mwd and nano fibers
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fmercury
Contraband Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.09.03 16:34:00 -
[44]
Edited by: fmercury on 03/09/2006 16:35:04
Frigate size:
Taranis
Ishkur
Cruiser:
Ishtar
Vagabond
Pilgrim
Thorax
Rupture
Battleship:
Megathron
Tempest
Dominix
Originally by: Chode Rizoum
3. rage raven with gist mwd and nano fibers
Word, these are pretty insane.
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Mr Peanut
The New Empire
R i s e
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Posted - 2006.09.03 16:37:00 -
[45]
Non-faction, non-CBC, and in no specific order:
-Dominix
-Vagabond
-Raven
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Tunajuice
Demon Womb
Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.03 16:43:00 -
[46]
Raves suck, their tank is in the mids. So you pick do I want to tank or have EW. Armor tanking ships don't have this problem...
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Sebai Hana
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Posted - 2006.09.03 17:09:00 -
[47]
Wouldn't Shieldtanked Machariel with Ghist MWD, Snakeset, nanos in lows PWN solo?
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Hub Quantum
Eve Defence Force
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.03 17:15:00 -
[48]
Originally by: Tunajuice
Raves suck, their tank is in the mids. So you pick do I want to tank or have EW. Armor tanking ships don't have this problem...
You're right.
They have a whole other set of problems namely where they are going to fit in their damage mods, rcu, nanos or even stabs.
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Cohkka
LoneWolf Mining
R i s e
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Posted - 2006.09.03 17:21:00 -
[49]
Originally by: Tunajuice
Raves suck, their tank is in the mids. So you pick do I want to tank or have EW. Armor tanking ships don't have this problem...
Yeah passive armor tanked Ravens are soooo bad, never, ever use them!!!
Stop with these stupid posts please.
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Noriath
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Posted - 2006.09.03 17:41:00 -
[50]
Vagabond
Vagabond
and...
Vagabond...
Pretty much there is no better ship for getting cheap ganks but being next to impossible to kill by anyone hunting you...
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Duban Xtreme
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Posted - 2006.09.03 17:58:00 -
[51]
When it comes to all around goodness it's hard to beat a thorax though. Powerful, fast, and expendable. What else could you ask for?
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DefJam101
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Posted - 2006.09.03 18:17:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Hayabusa Fury
Originally by: Testicular Testes
Originally by: Hayabusa Fury
BS for example: Raven not best PVP BS and all ships can use EW so Scorp turns into weakest BS in game. So the 2 weakest flagships in game are Caldari.
Sweet jesus, that is the worst rationalization ever. Getting a bonus to the most effective type of warfare does make the Scorpion the single most effective gang BS around, followed by the Javelin Raven as the king of damage dealers for skirmish-sized engagements (along with the versatility for a tank or EW). Not only does the Raven outperform in raw damage dealt during an actual fight (huge volley damage in addition to at least two free volleys in comparison to any shortrange turret BS), it also gets to choose the perfect type most drastically of any BS - even the notorious Dominix can only pick two heavy drones, two mediums and one light drone set. All the while the Raven gets these goodies while maintaining full alignment and doing plenty of damage to cruisers.
Speaking of the Dominix, it's badly overrated. Badly limited range and manueverability, limited damage output letting decent tanks hold until the injectors run out and all that. It's still the easiest battleship to solo (and has great versatility for alternate setups), but being in a class that doesn't really solo well against anything but itself that doesn't mean too much.
Anyway, Damp Raven > Domi. Damp or ECM Raven + tackler = dead Domi. The advent of EC-300/600s in general has made Domis quite beatable by almost anyone really.
As for actual soloing ships ? Most T2 cruisers can be molded into something pretty sweet for solowork. Caldari do have it roughest in that department for pure soloing, but they make up for it by being the best without even remote competition in small and large gangs.
Holy lord, Raven in theroy is highest DPS maybe, but if the ship is killed before the torps ever get there then it is no good. Thats the point here. Again for Scorp, number theroy and bonus looks good on paper but since it is the weakest BS and always called primary it does little good. plus EWar is so jacked that enough multispecs in any ship is overpowered.
Don't "sweet jesus" me unless you post with your main
You know, not everyone has 200km range ya know.
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Noriath
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Posted - 2006.09.03 18:26:00 -
[53]
Originally by: Duban Xtreme
When it comes to all around goodness it's hard to beat a thorax though. Powerful, fast, and expendable. What else could you ask for?
The fact is, the way Eve works right now if you have a good set of instas and a very fast ship you're not going to die unless you make a bad mistake. Solo PvP pretty much boils down to killing everything that can't fight back and running away from everything else, if you're good at running the ammount of effort needed to kill you is so huge that you can pretty much ignore the possibility of getting killed...
And yea yea, two seconds from now someone will be like "No way, I totally kill 1000 vagabonds every day in my Iteron, you just suck!" But trust me on this, if you know how to pick your fights, when to run, and when to log you are nearly untouchable in a fast ship.
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Sadist
SWIFTS
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.09.03 18:47:00 -
[54]
Edited by: Sadist on 03/09/2006 18:48:48
1.****abond/Vaginabond (Hey look ma, no hands!)
2. Ishtar (yammed and eaten by drones, lol!)
3. Interceptor <<<--- wtf? Because if you choose your fights wisely, you're pretty much invincible, and even if you wont kill many big ships, you'll still rack in some indies, enemy inties and t1 frigs, barges, and maybe even a spare cruiser or 2 (was that a goon fleet I just killed ?)
P.S. Looks like most people agree on ishtar/vagabond combo with some interesting and viable choices for 3rd place.
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dec0
Caldari
PMC Core
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Posted - 2006.09.03 18:57:00 -
[55]
Jesus christ there are some idiots in this thread, raven is good but how the hell is it overpowered, to fit a great tank (t2) 6 t2 seige, heavy nos, its very hard to fit, plus it cant fit ecm + tank or tackle plus tank, in solo pvp vital things are scrambler+webber+mwd/ab. Because it cant tank plus tackle plus ecm, its a great ratting ship but its by far the best in pvp. Its in the middle.
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Ishida Akiko
Caldari
The Carebear Club
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Posted - 2006.09.03 19:48:00 -
[56]
Ishtar and Vagabond are the top three. That is all.
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Vicious Phoenix
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Posted - 2006.09.03 20:14:00 -
[57]
Originally by: Perry
Best Solo PvP Ships ingame atm are in my opinion:
1) Vagabound
It has the Damage and Speed to kill quick and escape even from a good organised hostile Gang. Only a Bubble, multiple webs and Scrambs and a damage dealer can bring it down. It will gank your enemies and your wallet in no time.
2) Pilgrim
Dont we all love the Nos/Ecm/Drone combo of doom? Add a Covert Cloak and your enemy will not even have time to spell "wtfpwned?" in local. Best used as belt ganker with two Scramblers, damn stabs.
3) Ishtar/Dominix
No Cloak but even more Pwnage because of multiple waves of Heavy Drones. These things hurt! Dont get outblobbed. Good as roaming vehicles and gatecampers. Can fight multiple hostiles at once if done right.
I concur with 1 and 2, though I can't speak for 3 as I don't fly that one. Vaga and Pilgrim really are the 2 best solo ships ingame.
CFW (Certified Forum Warrior)
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Krist Valentine
Amarr
Bad Omen Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.09.03 20:16:00 -
[58]
Crusader, Punisher and Rifter.
All on the smaller, and faster end of things - that's just because that's what I know about. Hard to hit and, when kitted out right, can do a fair bit of damage to the right target.
T2 drones whipe the floor with them though.
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Magnus Thermopyle
Chosen Path
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.09.03 20:16:00 -
[59]
Anyone that says that raven sux for 1-on-1 has never fought a skilled raven pilot. It easily beats a nos domi for example, unless the domi knows what to tank against (for example, if he fights mission runners).
Best ships for solo:
- BS: Raven
- HAC: Vagabond
- AF: Ishkur
- Ceptor: crow
- Frig: rifter
- Cruiser: thorax
I dont fly amarr so I dont have any opinions about their ships.
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Jeni Shinnen
Gallente
The Echelon
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Posted - 2006.09.03 20:23:00 -
[60]
Edited by: Jeni Shinnen on 03/09/2006 20:25:25
Nothing (with the exception of veeeery fast ships) can beat a properly setup lachesis 1 on 1
eg. maybe a vaga due to its speed.
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Vicious Phoenix
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Posted - 2006.09.03 20:28:00 -
[61]
Originally by: Jeni Shinnen
Edited by: Jeni Shinnen on 03/09/2006 20:25:25
Nothing (with the exception of veeeery fast ships) can beat a properly setup lachesis 1 on 1
eg. maybe a vaga due to its speed.
Anything with an MWD that can get close = dead lachesis.
CFW (Certified Forum Warrior)
I kill people ingame too. |
Cohkka
LoneWolf Mining
R i s e
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Posted - 2006.09.03 20:35:00 -
[62]
Originally by: Noriath
Originally by: Duban Xtreme
When it comes to all around goodness it's hard to beat a thorax though. Powerful, fast, and expendable. What else could you ask for?
The fact is, the way Eve works right now if you have a good set of instas and a very fast ship you're not going to die unless you make a bad mistake. Solo PvP pretty much boils down to killing everything that can't fight back and running away from everything else, if you're good at running the ammount of effort needed to kill you is so huge that you can pretty much ignore the possibility of getting killed...
And yea yea, two seconds from now someone will be like "No way, I totally kill 1000 vagabonds every day in my Iteron, you just suck!" But trust me on this, if you know how to pick your fights, when to run, and when to log you are nearly untouchable in a fast ship.
Well, with the speed argument you're partly right. They can break camps and other lame "PvP" tactics, but they also can chase down your target, lock fast, get you a lot of podkills and allow for tactics you couldn't even imagine doing in your BS.
But you're insulting the small group of honest solo Pilots who, while fully aware of the situation, take stupid odds and not just gank people weaker than themself. I know there are a lot of people out there who prefer to log or run rather than take a challange, it doesn't hold truth for everyone.
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Chronus26
Gallente
Dark Blood Contracts
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Posted - 2006.09.03 20:35:00 -
[63]
Tech 1:
Frigate: Punisher (insane tankability)
Cruiser: Thorax (Awsom DPS with Blasters)
Battlecruiser: Ferox/brutix (Ferox: Good passive tank Brutix: Insane DPS with blasters)
Battleship: Dominix () (NOSdomi)
Tech 2:
Intercepter: Crow (Speed)
Assault Frig: Ishkur (NOS + Drones = W1n)
Heavy Assault Cruiser: Vagabond (Speed + Stabs)
Recon ship: Curse (it sucks, litteraly!)
Force Recon: Pilgrim (as above)
Command Ship: Astarte (?)
Well thast my oppinions, a few could be argued over and as for command ship - I just dont know to be honest.
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Rigsta
Gallente
Aliastra
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Posted - 2006.09.03 20:46:00 -
[64]
Loving my Brutix for solo anything. Rock solid ship-bonused tank or ebil blaster gank. Or ditch the MWD for rails  Pack the tech 2 drones to keep the heat on when you're jammed, or swap them out for neutralizers, ECM, webber drones...
Ishkur is my favourite AF. Twin NOS to keep the tank going, 2x med and 3x light drones for damage. I'd love a 4th low for a damage control but we can't have everthing
Originally by: Jim McGregor
I felt the disturbance... it was like a million voices suddenly stopped whining for a second. Unfortunantly it then continued.
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fairimear
Gallente
S.A.S
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Posted - 2006.09.03 20:51:00 -
[65]
Originally by: Kunming
Originally by: fairimear
Curse, if i tell ya why i would have to shoot you.
Uhmm.. shield tank sustained by NOS with WCS in lows and drones as DPS?.. Just guessing
What would you say, if I said I have a killer setup for lachesis which can take care of 5-7 close range HACs/BSs at the same time, solo? Guess we all have our secret setups
lol u must be joking, max compensation energized adaptive base armor tank.
you will have no problem tanking most things that are hitting you if your doing things right and the few things that you wont consist of th raven, the raven, and er the raven.
bearing in mind by solo pvp im assuming your not gona be engaging 3+hacs or worse alone.
infact if it's zealots feel free to engage 3 of em at once.
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Jeni Shinnen
Gallente
The Echelon
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Posted - 2006.09.03 21:10:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Vicious Phoenix
Originally by: Jeni Shinnen
Edited by: Jeni Shinnen on 03/09/2006 20:25:25
Nothing (with the exception of veeeery fast ships) can beat a properly setup lachesis 1 on 1
eg. maybe a vaga due to its speed.
Anything with an MWD that can get close = dead lachesis.
Ever thought of fitting a domination webifier and a MWD of your own to rectify this problem?
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Vicious Phoenix
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Posted - 2006.09.03 21:16:00 -
[67]
Originally by: Jeni Shinnen
Originally by: Vicious Phoenix
Originally by: Jeni Shinnen
Edited by: Jeni Shinnen on 03/09/2006 20:25:25
Nothing (with the exception of veeeery fast ships) can beat a properly setup lachesis 1 on 1
eg. maybe a vaga due to its speed.
Anything with an MWD that can get close = dead lachesis.
Ever thought of fitting a domination webifier and a MWD of your own to rectify this problem?
Won't help you unless you drop the vaga's lock range below 15km. In that case the vaga just runs and you will not catch up to it. And don't say you'll kill it before it leaves scram range, vaga can cover 60km in the time it takes you to get off a few volleys. (Assuming you have a domi disruptor to go with that web and the vaga isn't stabbed)
As for slow ships though, lachesis is excellent at killing them I agree.
CFW (Certified Forum Warrior)
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Jeni Shinnen
Gallente
The Echelon
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Posted - 2006.09.03 21:18:00 -
[68]
Originally by: Vicious Phoenix
Originally by: Jeni Shinnen
Originally by: Vicious Phoenix
Originally by: Jeni Shinnen
Edited by: Jeni Shinnen on 03/09/2006 20:25:25
Nothing (with the exception of veeeery fast ships) can beat a properly setup lachesis 1 on 1
eg. maybe a vaga due to its speed.
Anything with an MWD that can get close = dead lachesis.
Ever thought of fitting a domination webifier and a MWD of your own to rectify this problem?
Won't help you unless you drop the vaga's lock range below 15km. In that case the vaga just runs and you will not catch up to it. And don't say you'll kill it before it leaves scram range, vaga can cover 60km in the time it takes you to get off a few volleys. (Assuming you have a domi disruptor to go with that web and the vaga isn't stabbed)
As for slow ships though, lachesis is excellent at killing them I agree.
Unless you're very unskilled, dropping the vaga's lock range below even 10kms shouldnt be a problem.
If the vaga runs then you win.
Domi disruptor isnt needed imho.
And stabs are great, but you lose if you warp
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Aramendel
Amarr
Queens of the Stone Age
Chimaera Pact
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Posted - 2006.09.03 21:27:00 -
[69]
Originally by: Vicious Phoenix
Won't help you unless you drop the vaga's lock range below 15km.
With max skills one a gal ecm cruiser 1 t2 SD will reduce it's target to 25%, 2 to 10% and 3 to 5% of it's original locking range.
Just *1* damperner will reduce the vage to just over 15 km locking range (assuming it has long range targeting maxxed).
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Onin Ra
Trail of Tears
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Posted - 2006.09.03 21:49:00 -
[70]
Quote:
If the vaga runs then you win.
No, it means he ran. You didnt lose, but neither did he.
btw, Solo PvP does not equals DUELS you dumbasses ;p
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Skrypt
Gallente
Shinra
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.09.03 22:48:00 -
[71]
In my humble opinion, gallente ships are the best for PVP.
1. Dominix/Ishtar: Dos + ECM + drones is never a bad idea. Tragically, the Ishtar is so expensive.
2. Thorax/Brutix/Deimos: Great in-your-face, too-close-to-hit, massive damage ships.
3. Curse/Pilgrim: Insane nos abilities. Might take a while tp bring your prey down but still a fearsome ship.
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A Scriv
Guardians Of Poseidon
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Posted - 2006.09.04 09:18:00 -
[72]
now ive got skills up my list are as follows (cheapest first)
1. Vexor (t2 fitted with t2 drones)my fave atm
2.ishkur (not used yet but i know af are hard and this one gets some huge drone bonus')
3. Ishtar (not fly one yet but in a few months i hope to have one and it should be uber)
solo in last 2 months i got 15 kill mails and bout 7 are myself, mainly because i made some silly mistake. like wasting cap getting to a real pirate, only to have my ass handed to me. or the last time after takin out a cal cruiser a raven warped to me 
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Noriath
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Posted - 2006.09.04 09:30:00 -
[73]
Originally by: Cohkka
Well, with the speed argument you're partly right. They can break camps and other lame "PvP" tactics, but they also can chase down your target, lock fast, get you a lot of podkills and allow for tactics you couldn't even imagine doing in your BS.
But you're insulting the small group of honest solo Pilots who, while fully aware of the situation, take stupid odds and not just gank people weaker than themself. I know there are a lot of people out there who prefer to log or run rather than take a challange, it doesn't hold truth for everyone.
To be honest, that group of PvPers that doesn't just atack stuff that's a certain kill and basicly be completly impossible to kill for everything else is so small that I have never met one.
Right now Solo PvPing basicly just consits of ganking people who never had a chance while sitting in a ship that's built for being completly untouchable by anything else...
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Testy Mctest
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Posted - 2006.09.04 09:45:00 -
[74]
Edited by: Testy Mctest on 04/09/2006 09:45:57
Originally by: Verus Potestas
I'd say:
Vagabond
Dominix
Pilgrim
Caldari really do suck at solo PvP.
That was almost exactly what I was about to type. Whether Pilgrim or Curse is better though, I can't say - I haven't flown them yet. 24 days until I can :)
Also, in order, I'd place Domi above the Vagabond in terms of what's best, but that's a really tough decision to make.
Also note that of those ships, other than the Vagabond (which is slightly abhorrent as a ship) they're both nos/drone/EW boats. Other ships that would make this list in T2 would be Ishtar and Ishkur, in T1 would be Vexor and Arbitrator......note the common theme.
Originally by: D'Hofren
The amazing boost amarr thread with it's amorphic elastic maths
Scrapheap Challenge!
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Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.09.04 15:50:00 -
[75]
Edited by: Jim McGregor on 04/09/2006 15:51:53
These threads always end up with a bunch of gallente ships and the Vagabond. Shouldnt there be ships from all races if the races were equally good?
I guess caldari & amarr is good in bigger groups though. All ships arent designed for solo pvp... alot of them are excellent support ships instead.
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Akiman
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Posted - 2006.09.04 17:46:00 -
[76]
Edited by: Akiman on 04/09/2006 17:46:27
curse... pilgrim... punisher... ring any bells?
and nearly all caldari ships great imo...
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bringiton14
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Posted - 2006.09.04 17:56:00 -
[77]
Edited by: bringiton14 on 04/09/2006 17:56:42
1. Vagabond
2. Ishtar
3. Crow
-blood
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Bloodst0ne
The Priory
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Posted - 2006.09.04 17:57:00 -
[78]
^^^
That is me btw.
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Noriath
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Posted - 2006.09.04 18:29:00 -
[79]
Originally by: Jim McGregor
These threads always end up with a bunch of gallente ships and the Vagabond. Shouldnt there be ships from all races if the races were equally good?
Solo PvP means being 20km away from the target so you can warp scramble it, so naturally ships designed for short range dominate solo PvP, and since Gallente are supposed to be the masters of short range... Well, you figure out the rest...
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Cohkka
LoneWolf Mining
R i s e
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Posted - 2006.09.04 19:12:00 -
[80]
Originally by: Noriath
To be honest, that group of PvPers that doesn't just atack stuff that's a certain kill and basicly be completly impossible to kill for everything else is so small that I have never met one.
You'll always see what you want to see.
Don't speak english, just F5, F5, F5... |
DrEiak
Amarr
IONSTAR
Vox Imperium
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Posted - 2006.09.04 19:19:00 -
[81]
for solo PvP i would have to say the pilgrim, only because you can pick and choose every fight using the cov ops cloak... Makes this ship very hard to beat since you can sneak up to close ranges, and NOS/EW your enemy to its knees, then gank with drones :)
The only drawback I can think of to this is that sometimes drones take a little longer to kill things, so where a vagabond can very easily just ditch its targets with speed, if they have a target lock on you your cloak isnt going to work until the targets are neutralized, so it is imperitive to kill before reinforcements arrive.
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Maeveth
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Posted - 2006.09.04 19:19:00 -
[82]
Edited by: Maeveth on 04/09/2006 19:19:49
Obviously shuttles are the number 1 pvp ship.... ever. I mean that thing can passivly tank an Ibis!
... and that Ibis has 1 Tritanium!
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DrEiak
Amarr
IONSTAR
Vox Imperium
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Posted - 2006.09.04 19:22:00 -
[83]
Scorpions are quite nasty solo PvPers IMHO, you can completely lock down just about any ship with scorps bonuses, and if you can NOS them down 4 cruise missles launchers can be enough. Again one problem is that if 4 cruise missles arnt fast enough you can run into problems with reinfocements..
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Cohkka
LoneWolf Mining
R i s e
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Posted - 2006.09.04 19:55:00 -
[84]
Originally by: DrEiak
Scorpions are quite nasty solo PvPers IMHO, you can completely lock down just about any ship with scorps bonuses, and if you can NOS them down 4 cruise missles launchers can be enough. Again one problem is that if 4 cruise missles arnt fast enough you can run into problems with reinfocements..
Yeah 2 NOS are enough to suck another BS dry. And scorp does insane amounts of damage! Oh yeah and we don't have a chance based ECM system so it'll always jam the other BS 100% of the time...
Get real, damnit. No wonder forumwhiners are running amok, the amount of misinformation, misleading numbers and calculations is overhelming. Never been that bad actualy.
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Tasty Burger
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Posted - 2006.09.04 20:09:00 -
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Originally by: DrEiak
Scorpions are quite nasty solo PvPers IMHO, you can completely lock down just about any ship with scorps bonuses, and if you can NOS them down 4 cruise missles launchers can be enough. Again one problem is that if 4 cruise missles arnt fast enough you can run into problems with reinfocements..
LOL.
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