So I hate to be that guy but,
Anyone have a link to CCP's statement confirming that they plan to do this, or is this thread just rumor mongering.

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Yeah it's silly to draw the line somewhere after more than 50 nerfs to my *past* styles of gameplay and increasingly narrowed field of gameplay.

This adds no content to the game and removes a ton.

And all it achieves is make eve more mainstream.

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*cough* hello kitty online in SPACE!!

What the heck is AWOX?

What the heck is AWOX?

AWOX was the name of a character who made the act of shooting fellow corpmates (in)famous.

If this change happens I'm unsubbing.

It is one small step towards "themepark MMO". I don't want to watch this game be ruined like that.

If this change happens I'm unsubbing.

It is one small step towards "themepark MMO". I don't want to watch this game be ruined like that.

It's one step towards balancing high-sec mechanics properly.
I keep hearing this same one argument about this, "ooooh but outside of highsec you have to deal with awoxers, why is highsec special". Ummm, because it's high-sec. There is CONCORD in highsec. Stupid that it was ever allowed to begin with.

But you want to know what really makes the game like a themepark MMO? When awoxers in highsec can't grow a pair and do the same thing in null or WH. if people are going to quit over this its not because of themepark anything, its because they are too sissy to do their awox thing against non highsec corps who actually know how to fight back. the real themeparkers are the awoxers.

adapt or die is how this works.

If this change happens I'm unsubbing.

It is one small step towards "themepark MMO". I don't want to watch this game be ruined like that.

Can I ahve your stuff, I promise to put a reasonable portion of your stuff towards ganking people with too much wealth if you do.

It's one step towards balancing high-sec mechanics properly.
I keep hearing this same one argument about this, "ooooh but outside of highsec you have to deal with awoxers, why is highsec special". Ummm, because it's high-sec. There is CONCORD in highsec. Stupid that it was ever allowed to begin with.

But you want to know what really makes the game like a themepark MMO? When awoxers in highsec can't grow a pair and do the same thing in null or WH. if people are going to quit over this its not because of themepark anything, its because they are too sissy to do their awox thing against non highsec corps who actually know how to fight back. the real themeparkers are the awoxers.

adapt or die is how this works.

It simply seems that awoxing is a legimitely legalized way of high-sec ganking with concord-workaround, supported by ccp.
Marking suspect will do. So, if attacked player decides he was mistakenly shot, no action will take place. If the intention is bad, then victim will have an option to shoot back :)

Why so many players rely on shooting in high-sec without concord involved? Oh yes, you want actions without consequences. Right ^.^

So learn how to do background checks and this magical thing called full API.

Maybe CCP will realize they pampered the wrong group, after all the casuals jump ship when Star Citizen comes out.

But that doesnt mean this a change for the better, it doesnt balance anything. Its a significant amount of content removed so that players can get away with being bad at the game frankly.

Some acts of AWOXing have made it into the press (and not just gaming press). Players joined the game when they read about the treacheries because this kind of meta-gaming cannot be found anywhere else and its interesting.

Thats not interesting, and its not going to encourage noobs to stick around.

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Asking for full API keys may work for nul, low and WH corps, if you ask for a full API key for a high sec corp and most players will tell you exactly where to stuff your request especially the newbies making this almost irrelevant when taling about high sec corps.

removing awoxing allows people to just let anyone into their corp with no risk of consequences so what is your point i can't tell if you are for or against

Removal of concord free intra corp aggression is not removal of Awoxing for a start.
All the examples of awoxing that have made the media have been of the corporate theft variety, which will still exist
Also you can scam your target into going suspect, or following you to low or dueling you or.....
There are still a whole list of ways which you can awox.

What removal of concord free intra corp aggression will do is remove a weird exception to high sec rules.

and remove a big part of that starting trust needed

well this is nothing more than a lie after running highsec corps and helping many start up i have never had a new player refuse a full api at worst i have had to spend 30 min explaining it to them

I doubt very much that high sec AWOXing adds a "significant amount" of content to this game. In fact I doubt very much that most of the players in this game would even notice if AWOXing was removed.

The acts of AWOXing that have made news outside of this game were likely done to/in a nul sec corp and removing AWOXing from high sec would have no affect on these nul/low sec situations.

AWOXing is not something that encourages most new players to stick around this game. In fact it is likely to have the opposite affect and drive many more out of the game than it would keep in the game.

For our money, the Ubiqua Seraph infiltration was an act of despicable brilliance. An operation as cruel as it is astonishing, it serves as a simultaneous testament to both the virtues and the evils of a truly open-ended massively multiplayer game. Players crying for developers CCP to step in and redress the balance miss the point - this is exactly the kind of extraordinary player politics that you can't find anywhere else. CCP been very vocal in the past about their intention to simply create a world - a galaxy, in fact - and let people do what they may within it. If you stop people from doing horrible things to each other in it, you lose the full scope of what a game can be.

Shogaatsu confirms that many of the Guided Hand Social Club's operations have caused players to leave Eve Online for good. But there will be many more - ourselves included - who get an irrepressible urge to play it when they read about the dark machinations of this extraordinary universe. If there's another game in which 'Valentine Operative' is a viable occupation, we've yet to play it.

-Made my first account from this heist. This is what gave me my first taste of eve

- Simply put, the greatest EVE story. We all know someone who got into the game from reading this in the press. This cannot be excluded from the multimedia follow-ons from this project.

- A member of our group from another game read this story and tried Eve. He then passed the story around to the rest of us with his first impressions of the game. Two weeks later more than ten of us had come over. At least eight of us are still playing.
"This cannot be excluded from the multimedia follow-ons from this project."
I couldn't agree more.

- One reason i started this game. +1

- Same here

- This story was the reason I started playing EVE

- Me too, the story of the heist, rehashed somewhere with a link to the PC gamer article, was one of main catalysts to me trying out EvE online 4 years ago.

Some thoughts on posts by others.


Asking for full API keys may work for nul, low and WH corps, if you ask for a full API key for a high sec corp and most players will tell you exactly where to stuff your request especially the newbies making this almost irrelevant when taling about high sec corps.


I doubt seriously that the casual players would care if Star Citizen became a thing in this game it is far more likely to affect the vets such as yourself. But in basic I agree with you that EVE becoming more like Star Citizen would not be a good thing.
Besides that it is those casual players that make up the largest percentage of the player base in EVE and they are the ones most likely to pay for their subscriptions and to buy plex to convert to ISK so keeping them in game should be high on your priorities list. And I have to wonder if giving up high sec AWOXing in exchange for keeping the cash cow of casual player may not be best for this game as a whole?

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I doubt very much that high sec AWOXing adds a "significant amount" of content to this game. In fact I doubt very much that most of the players in this game would even notice if AWOXing was removed.

The acts of AWOXing that have made news outside of this game were likely done to/in a nul sec corp and removing AWOXing from high sec would have no affect on these nul/low sec situations.

AWOXing is not something that encourages most new players to stick around this game. In fact it is likely to have the opposite affect and drive many more out of the game than it would keep in the game.

Not really. They can still steal, spy, scout etc.
And removing a little bit of the psych eval needed for EVE corp applications won't really hurt the game.

The stories you have quoted will not be affected by the changing of Intra corp aggression in high sec.
One occurred in a 0.3 system, the other was a theft.

Neither of these are applicable to the discussion, and are just grand standing attempts to try and pretend the sky is actually falling, when nothing of the sort is happening.

It doesnt matter where AWOXing happens. The act carries the same spark of drama and player interactions everywhere, and THAT is eve. The players reading the articles come into the game expecting to be able to do something similar no matter what area of space they are in. If you are arguing that its ok to get rid of hi-sec AWOXing because it doesnt feature in mainstream news, then i expect you also think hi-sec PvE and hi-sec skirmish PvP should be removed. Right? No. Exactly.

Players crying for developers CCP to step in and redress the balance miss the point - this is exactly the kind of extraordinary player politics that you can't find anywhere else. CCP been very vocal in the past about their intention to simply create a world - a galaxy, in fact - and let people do what they may within it. If you stop people from doing horrible things to each other in it, you lose the full scope of what a game can be.