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Chamiidra
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Posted - 2006.09.07 07:29:00 -
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I'm sure it's been said before but warp scramblers, especially the short range ones, give pirates far to large of an advantage over us non-pvp types. I'm down with having scramblers that lengthen the time it takes to get into warp. But locking someone completely out of warp is too powerful. Either that or give t1 stabs 2 pts instead of 1. There are ships where you physically cannot mount enough stabs on them, and there are no skills to help.
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Koth Krakenworth
Minmatar
S.A.S
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Posted - 2006.09.07 07:31:00 -
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Get a scout? 
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Kanuo Ashkeron
Eve Defence Force
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.07 07:32:00 -
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ArenŠt flamebaits against the forum rules? 
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Rexthor Hammerfists
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.07 07:33:00 -
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quick, some1 hurt this person!
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Purple Conquered The World, We the Universe.
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Ephemeron
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Posted - 2006.09.07 07:34:00 -
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I'm a firm believer in podding the **** out of stupid people, until they get smarter or quit.
It's natural selection at work
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Infinity Ziona
Privateers
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Posted - 2006.09.07 07:40:00 -
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Hmmm I dont know about this one... I just bought 2 domination warp disruptors.
I will however, be happy to exchange them for, 2 domination targeted empire capable interdictor sphere launchers, that can fit on my Arazu.
Click Me
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Coran Ordus
Ominous Corp
Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.07 08:20:00 -
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Better idea: no posting allowed for 6 hours after getting blown up. Should cut down on threads like these... |
Cyleth
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.07 08:24:00 -
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I believe the OP meant "nerf warp stabs!!!1"
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Chamiidra
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Posted - 2006.09.07 08:31:00 -
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Didn't get blown up recently. And stop whining about losing your "I win" button mmkay.
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Crumplecorn
Gallente
Aerial Boundaries Inc.
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.09.07 08:33:00 -
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Troll.
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Waragha
Art of War
Cult of War
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Posted - 2006.09.07 08:34:00 -
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Let's all war dec him and see how he cries afterwards.
 Originally by: Trepkos
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The only difference between GS and NPC's are that GS respawn quicker.
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Brisi
Sniggerdly
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Posted - 2006.09.07 08:35:00 -
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Originally by: Chamiidra
Didn't get blown up recently. And stop whining about losing your "I win" button mmkay.
Yeah, warp scramblers are the "I-win" button. Yes it really is. Really! It is! IT IS IT IS IT IS IT IS!!!!! And while we're at it, the Sacrilege is the best HAC. Oh wait, and the Osprey is the best cruiser!
And will the Minmatar PLEASE STOP WHINING ABOUT THEIR TARGET PAINTING BONUSES! Those are the real "I-win" buttons!
I am Brisi, I am as One. Resistance is fertile.
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Josiah Bartlet
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.07 08:35:00 -
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Originally by: Rexthor Hammerfists
quick, some1 hurt this person!
/signed
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Ozzie Asrail
FATAL REVELATIONS
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.09.07 08:48:00 -
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Originally by: Chamiidra
Didn't get blown up recently. And stop whining about losing your "I win" button mmkay.
lol stop whining about not being 100% invulnerable.
FYI couple nights ago I was on a pvp op and stupidly only used a single 20k. Last night i used a 20km and a 7.5km and STILL people warped away from my inty.
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Baldour Ngarr
Artemis Rising
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Posted - 2006.09.07 09:15:00 -
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Originally by: Ozzie Asrail
Originally by: Chamiidra
Didn't get blown up recently. And stop whining about losing your "I win" button mmkay.
lol stop whining about not being 100% invulnerable.
FYI couple nights ago I was on a pvp op and stupidly only used a single 20k. Last night i used a 20km and a 7.5km and STILL people warped away from my inty.
Score one for not reading the OP.
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Cyleth
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.07 09:17:00 -
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Edited by: Cyleth on 07/09/2006 09:18:52
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Didn't get blown up recently. And stop whining about losing your "I win" button mmkay.
Hurry, someone give him a panic button!!!!11
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Baldour Ngarr
Artemis Rising
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Posted - 2006.09.07 09:17:00 -
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Originally by: Chamiidra
I'm sure it's been said before but warp scramblers, especially the short range ones, give pirates far to large of an advantage over us non-pvp types. I'm down with having scramblers that lengthen the time it takes to get into warp. But locking someone completely out of warp is too powerful. Either that or give t1 stabs 2 pts instead of 1. There are ships where you physically cannot mount enough stabs on them, and there are no skills to help.
Those ships tend to be frigates ... frigates can move fast ... and warp scramblers have a limited range. Whizz out of that range, and away you go.
Or they tend to be industrials .. in which case ... don't be such a goddam fool as to pilot a large, slow, all-but-defenceless ship without an escort, if you expect to run into dangerous situations.
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Noluck Ned
FATAL REVELATIONS
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.09.07 09:18:00 -
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Originally by: Ozzie Asrail
Originally by: Chamiidra
Didn't get blown up recently. And stop whining about losing your "I win" button mmkay.
lol stop whining about not being 100% invulnerable.
FYI couple nights ago I was on a pvp op and stupidly only used a single 20k. Last night i used a 20km and a 7.5km and STILL people warped away from my inty.
QFT Ozzie QFT
Question to the op....
How can I get kills if people can simply warp away from me when their tank starts to break?
If you can answer that you win EVE.(and dont start on the inty bumping people out of allignment crap either)
Originally by: Posidrive
So technically being a pirate is't quite as easy as I thought after reading this guide.
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Doktor arafat
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Posted - 2006.09.07 09:33:00 -
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Edited by: Doktor arafat on 07/09/2006 09:33:19
Die like a man instead of whining so much about it Chamiidra. (damn, I somehow posted with the alt, /demoria)
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Gabriel Karade
Office linebackers
Blood of the Innocents
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Posted - 2006.09.07 09:34:00 -
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An excellent suggestion was made some time ago on how the system could be re-worked; essentially everything would have a warp capacitor, which warp scramblers and performing any warping would drain.
Once your warp capactitor drops below a certain level you can no longer warp, the flip side of this is there would be no mass warp in - warp out in fleet battles, and everyone would have to stay and fight longer, or even to the bitter end 
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JOSEPHx
Caldari
Mercenary Forces
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Posted - 2006.09.07 09:39:00 -
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Originally by: Chamiidra
Didn't get blown up recently. And stop whining about losing your "I win" button mmkay.
I will gladly swap my "i win" button for you "i lose" button if you want.
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Ciphero
KIA Corp
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Posted - 2006.09.07 10:08:00 -
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Originally by: Chamiidra
Didn't get blown up recently. And stop whining about losing your "I win" button mmkay.
My ******* god.
Let's ignore the fact that you can counter our active, range-dependant modules (disruptors and scramblers) with your passive warp core stabilisers. Instead, let's focus on the fact that the single biggest thorn in PVPers' collective side is that it's extremely hard to force a fight out of someone who is both intelligent and unwilling. Seriously - ask any experienced PVPer and they'll tell you the same.
How about (as has been mentioned) a scout? How about avoiding hazardous areas? How about using a ship that's more adept at escaping? How about playing with just a small amount of thought and adaptability before running here and complaining that an element of the game doesn't suit your exact, lazy needs?
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Mikey Monkfish
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Posted - 2006.09.07 10:16:00 -
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LOL @ This Thread!
I think you'd have done just as well posting "I'm new, flame me please" :roll:]
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Crumplecorn
Gallente
Aerial Boundaries Inc.
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.09.07 10:20:00 -
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Originally by: Waragha
Let's all war dec him and see how he cries afterwards.
Everyone in the game should be given killrights on people as stupid as the OP.
I dub this the Darwin Convention.
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deathforge
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Posted - 2006.09.07 10:50:00 -
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Don't put yourself in a situation where you're sure to get tackled, and you won't. if you're in a belt in something that can be caught, assume you will be. You don't get to decide you don't feel like getting pirated in low sec, and just make yourself immune. When you entered that low sec system, you had to click "yes" on the pop up asking "Are you sure you like to be mercilessly ganked and podkilled?" You took the risk, knowing you could only fit so many stabs, and put yourself in a position where a pirate with sufficient midslots and/or friends could tackle and gank you. See those bad guys in local? Yeah, they're going to try and kill you, that's kind of their thing; you don't get the luxury of knowingly entering a dangerous area and not being exposed to danger regardless of being the 'non-pvp type.'
Don't be stupid, and you won't get ganked. I can't count on 2 hands how many times I've tried to tackle someone only to find them stabbed, refit an extra scrambler or 2 (in this situation I count your low slots and make sure I have a point for each +1, and/or a buddy) and come back out only to find them right back in the belts. You got lucky and got out once, don't be a complete moron and assume someone is going to give up, leave the freaking system. Or take your chances and wager your ship and pod that with my mids filled with scrams instead of an AB and web you're faster and can get out of range before I can kill you. Hell, an iteron with stabs, AB and a webber almost did it. Almost 
Don't like it? Stay in high sec. Hell, I'd hate to see the crying once you discover the miracle of bubbles in 0.0
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Arkanor
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2006.09.07 10:58:00 -
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Originally by: Coran Ordus
Better idea: no posting allowed for 6 hours after getting blown up. Should cut down on threads like these...
Come to think of it, that's a really good idea.
Originally by: Ghosthowl
WoW = hardcore paladins smashin dat face.
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Ortu Konsinni
KIA Corp
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Posted - 2006.09.07 11:27:00 -
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Edited by: Ortu Konsinni on 07/09/2006 11:33:34
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DropZone 187
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Posted - 2006.09.07 11:40:00 -
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Guys, we need all of you over in the 'Nerfing the mission runners again' thread.....The 3 main mission runner proponents don't believe that anyone should disturb their right to play Eve their way ala avoiding non-consensual pvp. |
Karoth Tyu
FATAL REVELATIONS
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Posted - 2006.09.07 12:00:00 -
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I think I should be invulnerable from all weapons and all scramblers and should be able to mine in 0.0 for the best ore in the game in peace, and if any pirate shoots me or mines in the same belt as me or steals my ore then CONCORD should instagank them and their entire corp and then camp all of their stations for no less than 6 months, because pirates are evil. The contents of their corp hanger and wallet should also be transferred to me, as well as the deed to their house and their real life girlfriends. Anything less is unfair to me 
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Noluck Ned
FATAL REVELATIONS
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.09.07 12:05:00 -
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Originally by: Karoth Tyu
I think I should be invulnerable from all weapons and all scramblers and should be able to mine in 0.0 for the best ore in the game in peace, and if any pirate shoots me or mines in the same belt as me or steals my ore then CONCORD should instagank them and their entire corp and then camp all of their stations for no less than 6 months, because pirates are evil. The contents of their corp hanger and wallet should also be transferred to me, as well as the deed to their house and their real life girlfriends. Anything less is unfair to me
CCP IMPLEMENT THIS NOW!!!11one one
Or else the next post I make will have "can I have your stuff" as the first reply
Originally by: Posidrive
So technically being a pirate is't quite as easy as I thought after reading this guide.
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Pepperami
Art of War
Cult of War
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Posted - 2006.09.07 12:08:00 -
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Originally by: Chamiidra
There are ships where you physically cannot mount enough stabs on them, and there are no skills to help.
This made me laugh.
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Kaahles
Amarr
Decadence.
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Posted - 2006.09.07 12:11:00 -
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nerf warpscramblers? erm... NO!!!
I would say: get scout (like someone before).Scouting is the most important thing in lowsec / 0.0
Better nerf WCS cause it's crap. Ships like a vaga with 2 stabs or an Apoc with 7 stabs are ships that can kill you and you can't kill them that's absoulute crap.. But I guess this has been said many many times before
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MOS DEF
Celestial Fleet
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.07 12:17:00 -
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Once the WCS nerf finally hits the server: Can i have your stuff?
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Riho
Mercenary Forces
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Posted - 2006.09.07 12:52:00 -
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Originally by: Gabriel Karade
An excellent suggestion was made some time ago on how the system could be re-worked; essentially everything would have a warp capacitor, which warp scramblers and performing any warping would drain.
Once your warp capactitor drops below a certain level you can no longer warp, the flip side of this is there would be no mass warp in - warp out in fleet battles, and everyone would have to stay and fight longer, or even to the bitter end
omg... uber idea there :D
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Jane Vladmir
Gallente
Warmongers
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Posted - 2006.09.07 12:52:00 -
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Don't be stupid.
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Anderson
Murder-Death-Kill
Blood Raiders Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.07 13:18:00 -
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Originally by: Ephemeron
I'm a firm believer in podding the **** out of stupid people, until they get smarter or quit.
It's natural selection at work
/Signed!
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ReaperOfSly
Gallente
Lyrus Associates
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.09.07 13:25:00 -
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Originally by: Gabriel Karade
An excellent suggestion was made some time ago on how the system could be re-worked; essentially everything would have a warp capacitor, which warp scramblers and performing any warping would drain.
Once your warp capactitor drops below a certain level you can no longer warp, the flip side of this is there would be no mass warp in - warp out in fleet battles, and everyone would have to stay and fight longer, or even to the bitter end
Nice idea. Perhaps there could be an option to transfer warp capacitor to your main capacitor (but not back again)?
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Gabriel Karade
Office linebackers
Blood of the Innocents
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Posted - 2006.09.07 13:28:00 -
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Originally by: Riho
Originally by: Gabriel Karade
An excellent suggestion was made some time ago on how the system could be re-worked; essentially everything would have a warp capacitor, which warp scramblers and performing any warping would drain.
Once your warp capactitor drops below a certain level you can no longer warp, the flip side of this is there would be no mass warp in - warp out in fleet battles, and everyone would have to stay and fight longer, or even to the bitter end
omg... uber idea there :D
Yeah, not my idea though , it was J0esphine who came up with it, but I can't find the thread anymore 
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Rayvonuk
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Posted - 2006.09.07 13:32:00 -
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Hows about not going in space under 0.5 until u have a ship that can fit a few WCS?
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Hippo117
Caldari
9th Fleet Academy
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Posted - 2006.09.07 13:43:00 -
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Originally by: Chamiidra
There are ships where you physically cannot mount enough stabs on them, and there are no skills to help.
Hang on let me fix that.
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There are ships where you physically cannot mount enough scrams on them, and there are no skills to help.
That is the real problem when it comes to stabpocs. Now STFU noob.
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Krexus
Amarr
Reunited
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Posted - 2006.09.07 13:55:00 -
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Nerf stabs!
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They never got me
Originally by: Red Knight
Your forum-foo is strong
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Baldour Ngarr
Artemis Rising
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Posted - 2006.09.07 13:58:00 -
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Originally by: Pepperami
Originally by: Chamiidra
There are ships where you physically cannot mount enough stabs on them, and there are no skills to help.
This made me laugh.
Because you've never heard of a shuttle?
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Gallente
Aerial Boundaries Inc.
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.09.07 14:01:00 -
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Originally by: Baldour Ngarr
Originally by: Pepperami
Originally by: Chamiidra
There are ships where you physically cannot mount enough stabs on them, and there are no skills to help.
This made me laugh.
Because you've never heard of a shuttle?
That made me laugh.
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Horatio Nately
808 Enterprises
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Posted - 2006.09.07 17:48:00 -
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Originally by: Chamiidra
Either that or give t1 stabs 2 pts instead of 1. There are ships where you physically cannot mount enough stabs on them, and there are no skills to help.
Deal with it. if you want stabs on a ship but it wont fit don't fly it into low sec or a situation that puts you at risk. You have no idea what pvp would be like if you had +2 stabs instead of +1. All sorts of idiots with ravens running around with +10 Warp stability strength (or in the extreme +16 with other battleships). to hell with that.
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BoinKlasik
Eye of God
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.09.07 18:10:00 -
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nerf bubbles, i cant stab them?
*doh, I broke my edited sig :/* *cries*
this signature was lacking pink, I'll provide it for you. There. Looks better doesn't it? -Eris
Fixed it for you. Oh, btw, yarr! ~kieron
Didn't I tell you? The damsel moved in with me, we're having a great time. - Wrangler
The damsel may not be distressed any more, but how many times does the informant have to be silenced before he gets the message? - Cortes
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Lorth
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.09.07 18:23:00 -
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The forum rules need to be changed to say..
If you say something so stupid, that even dumb people are wondering what kind of idiot you'd have to be to post something like that, TomB will come to your house with a bat and it will not be nerf.
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Cmdr Sy
EUROPEANS
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Posted - 2006.09.07 18:24:00 -
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Edited by: Cmdr Sy on 07/09/2006 18:25:53
Originally by: Chamiidra
I'm sure it's been said before but warp scramblers, especially the short range ones, give pirates far to large of an advantage over us non-pvp types. I'm down with having scramblers that lengthen the time it takes to get into warp. But locking someone completely out of warp is too powerful. Either that or give t1 stabs 2 pts instead of 1. There are ships where you physically cannot mount enough stabs on them, and there are no skills to help.
Look on the bright side.
Every warp scrambler they fitted, is an ECM module they hadn't.
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Emperor D'Hoffryn
No Quarter.
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.09.07 20:33:00 -
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Edited by: Emperor D''Hoffryn on 07/09/2006 20:33:41
if anything scamblers need to bo boosted a bit.....
oh dear god, what did I just do?????
Originally by: Tuxford
Yes we don't play on our main accounts simply because you would lose all respect for us 
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Waffle House
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Posted - 2006.09.07 21:36:00 -
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There was another suggestion awhile back to do something similar to the capacitor.
When you say warp, it started adding 10 units a second until reaching 100, at which point you would warp. A scrambler would reduce that amount (significantly), a WCS would boost it a little.
This did 2 things, even being aligned for warp did not get you out instantly (still had to wait for the count up), and you could not be permenantly tackled.
A frig could lock you down for 30 seconds - a few minutes, but if it did not have the firepower to kill you, you would always eventually warp.
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DropZone 187
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Posted - 2006.09.07 22:16:00 -
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Originally by: Lorth
The forum rules need to be changed to say..
If you say something so stupid, that even dumb people are wondering what kind of idiot you'd have to be to post something like that, TomB will come to your house with a bat and it will not be nerf.
Yeah but if TomB came to my house, he would just get drunk....
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Auraurious
Celtic Anarchy
Black Reign Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.09.07 22:46:00 -
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Originally by: Cmdr Sy
Edited by: Cmdr Sy on 07/09/2006 18:25:53
Originally by: Chamiidra
I'm sure it's been said before but warp scramblers, especially the short range ones, give pirates far to large of an advantage over us non-pvp types. I'm down with having scramblers that lengthen the time it takes to get into warp. But locking someone completely out of warp is too powerful. Either that or give t1 stabs 2 pts instead of 1. There are ships where you physically cannot mount enough stabs on them, and there are no skills to help.
Look on the bright side.
Every warp scrambler they fitted, is an ECM module they hadn't.
Ahh, but technically warp scramblers are ECM modules
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Father Weebles
The Royal Guard
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Posted - 2006.09.08 01:20:00 -
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ever read the warning message before entering 00/low sec? It's your fault, not the pirates...
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X ChaosX
Caldari
Sector 7
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Posted - 2006.09.08 01:35:00 -
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Warp scrams aren't an I-Win button. All they do is prevent the loser from running away. (assuming you out scram the stabs)
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Originally by: Bill Shankly
i see your another one of those lousy pirates that cant fight fair and call yourself apvper, what a joke u are.
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Sakura Nihil
Tharsis Security
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Posted - 2006.09.08 01:38:00 -
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Edited by: Sakura Nihil on 08/09/2006 01:38:28
Originally by: Josiah Bartlet
Originally by: Rexthor Hammerfists
quick, some1 hurt this person!
/signed
******s knuckles*
on it!
edit: I hate this profanity filter
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Chamiidra
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Posted - 2006.09.08 01:51:00 -
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Originally by: Sakura Nihil
Edited by: Sakura Nihil on 08/09/2006 01:38:28
Originally by: Josiah Bartlet
Originally by: Rexthor Hammerfists
quick, some1 hurt this person!
/signed
******s knuckles*
on it!
edit: I hate this profanity filter
Ok so I post saying that I'd like to see the effectiveness of warp scramblers reduced...not eliminated just reduced, and now here we have someone who's saying they are going to carry out physical violence on my person. Moderators is this cool, acceptable, rational? Personally I feel that people who threaten physical harm in a thread should be perma-banned. It's a game people, I have no problem with learn2play noob but I draw the line at threats.
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Kaz
Minmatar
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2006.09.08 02:00:00 -
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Edited by: Kaz on 08/09/2006 02:01:39
The Forum Warrior you are
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Chamiidra
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Posted - 2006.09.08 02:05:00 -
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Originally by: Kaz
Edited by: Kaz on 08/09/2006 02:01:39
The Forum Warrior you are
Damn that's funny. The link to that site is worth the flame.
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Gabriel Hart
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Posted - 2006.09.08 02:13:00 -
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Your first mistake was calling yourself a non-pvp type in a PvP game.
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TimeKeepr
No Quarter.
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.09.08 03:27:00 -
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Originally by: Gabriel Hart
Your first mistake was calling yourself a non-pvp type in a PvP game.
ah darn, stolen thunder. i was just about to say...
"non-pvp types" don't belong in EVE.
on another note, no one was threatening real life harm on the OP, dont worry about it.
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Infinity Ziona
Privateers
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Posted - 2006.09.08 03:44:00 -
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Originally by: TimeKeepr
Originally by: Gabriel Hart
Your first mistake was calling yourself a non-pvp type in a PvP game.
ah darn, stolen thunder. i was just about to say...
"non-pvp types" don't belong in EVE.
on another note, no one was threatening real life harm on the OP, dont worry about it.
Whos going to mine your ore, build your ships or clean the stations??
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Gabriel Hart
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Posted - 2006.09.08 04:00:00 -
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Originally by: Infinity Ziona
yarr
I suspect by the tone of your post that you believe that because of how you personally choose to play the game, you have some of effect on the overall mechanics of Eve.
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Infinity Ziona
Privateers
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Posted - 2006.09.08 05:32:00 -
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Edited by: Infinity Ziona on 08/09/2006 05:33:49
Originally by: Gabriel Hart
Originally by: Infinity Ziona
yarr
I suspect by the tone of your post that you believe that because of how you personally choose to play the game, you have some of effect on the overall mechanics of Eve.
Not sure what you are saying here. I think everyone, manufacturer, pvp'r, soloer, alliance person are all valid playstyles and all have an effect on EvE.
I also believe that if you so choose to enter unsafe space, that you concede to combat and I believe the only way combat can occur on a regular basis in EvE and be fun is if it is non-consentual and you can force people to fight.
Some issues, like gank camp and so on are unfair and do make combat un-fun but I dont think its the scramblers causing that unfairness and so fixing them wont fix the problem with gank camps. |
Girru
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Posted - 2006.09.08 18:18:00 -
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Originally by: Ephemeron
I'm a firm believer in podding the **** out of stupid people, until they get smarter or quit.
It's natural selection at work
Don't have children! Your type of DNA shouldn't be passed on!
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DefJam101
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Posted - 2006.09.08 22:22:00 -
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Originally by: Chamiidra
I'm sure it's been said before but warp scramblers, especially the short range ones, give pirates far to large of an advantage over us non-pvp types. I'm down with having scramblers that lengthen the time it takes to get into warp. But locking someone completely out of warp is too powerful. Either that or give t1 stabs 2 pts instead of 1. There are ships where you physically cannot mount enough stabs on them, and there are no skills to help.
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Nanobotter Mk2
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Posted - 2006.09.08 22:59:00 -
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I agree, it is a little bit silly that essentially in a good set up a player can scramble you for enternity, which is plenty of time for his lame as buddies to show up and mob you.
It is too certain. Like alot of the mods in EVE such as webbers. They should do a hit miss check and if hit you get scrambled for 30 secs if they miss you stay un scrambled, and every 30 secs they do a recheck like jammers.
100% gaurenteed snare and lock down from warp is prety carebearish imho. talk about EZ mode...
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Nanobotter Mk2
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Posted - 2006.09.08 23:05:00 -
[66]
"The forum rules need to be changed to say..
If you say something so stupid, that even dumb people are wondering what kind of idiot you'd have to be to post something like that, TomB will come to your house with a bat and it will not be nerf."
Cept he would wish it was nerf cause I would shove it so far up his ass and break it off before i sent him packing to ice it in rekjavik!
Really the OP post was not that stupid, as far as I am concerned the entire scrambling and stabbing choice of eve was a terrible choice for game mechanics to begin with.
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Feline Ferocity
Caldari
The Establishment
Establishment
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Posted - 2006.09.08 23:40:00 -
[67]
All i see these days are "nerf this!, "nerf that i keep dying!"...
Lets just nerf EVE altogether and be done with it 
Honestly some people....
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We need a YEAR without ANY 'new content'. Nothing but BUG FIXES.
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Caremen
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Posted - 2006.09.09 00:32:00 -
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I have never liked the lockdown mechanics of any MMO, be it stun's, scramblers, ecm's or whatever.
Problem is that the "lockdown player" is usually just an alt, scrambling/jamming/webbing for the main charecter who will come and play a "hero" and finish off the lone traveller when he is jammed, scrambled, webbed - and totally helpless. It's usually only a problem when you travel alone... or in a defenceless ship, since most gankers are too afraid to attack ships that carry guns.
That problem is solved in most OTHER games, by adding an immunity timer to the tackle effect. So if you get scrambled for 30 sec's by one player, your computers will be able to reject an assault from the same tackler for 30 sec's when the effect runs out. Of cause... that may not be enough for a kill in every situation, some ships will take longer to shoot down, but that's where teammates really begins to make a difference - the ship may be immune to YOUR scrambler, but.. not to your gangmember's.
Of cause this topic upset the usual trolls, but what's to be expected. PvP is fun, but.. if it's only a matter of who makes the first lockdown its not.
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darklegionca
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2006.09.09 00:35:00 -
[69]
i have a better idea instead lets nerf your mom for even saying you want warp scramblers nerfed
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ozwald
Minmatar
Serial Killers
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Posted - 2006.09.09 00:42:00 -
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Edited by: ozwald on 09/09/2006 00:42:36
go and play a different game, stop trying to ruin this one with your whines or petition to the devs so that as soon as you undock the whole ******* universe is one big instance for you to play happy families in.
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call mebtch
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Posted - 2006.09.09 03:35:00 -
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noob :)
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