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Jiekon
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Posted - 2006.09.07 10:39:00 -
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Edited by: Jiekon on 07/09/2006 10:44:27
I have spoken with the content team regarding the volume required to be moved in the new level 4 courier missions. alot of them are currently around 1m3
and will remain so untill around Kali 2 when it will get fixed.
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Nyphur
Pillowsoft
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.09.07 10:51:00 -
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That would explain the low rewards..
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Atreides Ghanima
Bull Industries
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Posted - 2006.09.07 10:51:00 -
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Hmmz not much lvl4 if you have to haul just 1 m¦ ... 
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Exiled One
Amarr
Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2006.09.07 10:59:00 -
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 Originally by: Jiekon
Edited by: Jiekon on 07/09/2006 10:44:27
I have spoken with the content team regarding the volume required to be moved in the new level 4 courier missions. alot of them are currently around 1m3
and will remain so untill around Kali 2 when it will get fixed.
Ask them about C O S M O S agents that give out 1 RUN BPC (frig, cruiser, bs) if you have 9,8+ to the faction and WHY they've been DISABLED, otherwise i'm afraid that it will get ugly !! And i hope iceland police has riot gear !!
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Nyphur
Pillowsoft
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.09.07 11:01:00 -
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Edited by: Nyphur on 07/09/2006 11:01:38
Originally by: Exiled One
Originally by: Jiekon
Edited by: Jiekon on 07/09/2006 10:44:27
I have spoken with the content team regarding the volume required to be moved in the new level 4 courier missions. alot of them are currently around 1m3
and will remain so untill around Kali 2 when it will get fixed.
Ask them about C O S M O S agents that give out 1 RUN BPC (frig, cruiser, bs) if you have 9,8+ to the faction and WHY they've been DISABLED, otherwise i'm afraid that it will get ugly !! And i hope iceland police has riot gear !!
My guess is farming. Have you seen the prices of the Fleet Tempest lately?
I'm more interested to know what happened to the other 4/5th of Gallente COSMOS and why they're off working on 0.0 COSMOS before finishing that (not that it won't be cool to have 0.0 COSMOS).
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Mikal Drey
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2006.09.07 11:02:00 -
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hey hey
whilst i dont like the awfull LP and rewards for a L4 courier. i am glad they are back and TBH there is a really huge advantage to them :)) im sure someone else has spotted it . .. . . . .
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Nyphur
Pillowsoft
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.09.07 11:30:00 -
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Originally by: Mikal Drey
hey hey
whilst i dont like the awfull LP and rewards for a L4 courier. i am glad they are back and TBH there is a really huge advantage to them :)) im sure someone else has spotted it . .. . . . .
Important missions...
Well that's what is classified as an exploit! Well done CCP.
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Gamer4liff
Caldari
Metalworks
THE INTERSTELLAR FOUNDRY
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Posted - 2006.09.07 12:06:00 -
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Can't wait for lvl 5 courier missions someday. Maybe that would be enough to put a dent in the freighter's cargo hold.
Thank you for adressting this though.
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Exiled One
Amarr
Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2006.09.07 12:10:00 -
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Originally by: Nyphur
Edited by: Nyphur on 07/09/2006 11:01:38
Originally by: Exiled One
Originally by: Jiekon
Edited by: Jiekon on 07/09/2006 10:44:27
I have spoken with the content team regarding the volume required to be moved in the new level 4 courier missions. alot of them are currently around 1m3
and will remain so untill around Kali 2 when it will get fixed.
Ask them about C O S M O S agents that give out 1 RUN BPC (frig, cruiser, bs) if you have 9,8+ to the faction and WHY they've been DISABLED, otherwise i'm afraid that it will get ugly !! And i hope iceland police has riot gear !!
My guess is farming. Have you seen the prices of the Fleet Tempest lately?
I'm more interested to know what happened to the other 4/5th of Gallente COSMOS and why they're off working on 0.0 COSMOS before finishing that (not that it won't be cool to have 0.0 COSMOS).
Farming??? Do you know what a bloody 9,9 standing to EMPIRE means???
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Leandro Salazar
Aeon Industries
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Posted - 2006.09.07 12:21:00 -
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Originally by: Exiled One
Originally by: Nyphur
Edited by: Nyphur on 07/09/2006 11:01:38
Originally by: Exiled One
Originally by: Jiekon
Edited by: Jiekon on 07/09/2006 10:44:27
I have spoken with the content team regarding the volume required to be moved in the new level 4 courier missions. alot of them are currently around 1m3
and will remain so untill around Kali 2 when it will get fixed.
Ask them about C O S M O S agents that give out 1 RUN BPC (frig, cruiser, bs) if you have 9,8+ to the faction and WHY they've been DISABLED, otherwise i'm afraid that it will get ugly !! And i hope iceland police has riot gear !!
My guess is farming. Have you seen the prices of the Fleet Tempest lately?
I'm more interested to know what happened to the other 4/5th of Gallente COSMOS and why they're off working on 0.0 COSMOS before finishing that (not that it won't be cool to have 0.0 COSMOS).
Farming??? Do you know what a bloody 9,9 standing to EMPIRE means???
Obviously not. Farming those things is VERY unreasonable considering the sheer amount of missions needed for that standing and that you can only use the agent once. The Reason for the price of Fleet Tempests dropping like a brick is most likely that:
a) they suck (at least for PvE which is the main usage of Faction ships)
b) The Maelstrom is proposed as an 8/6/6 ship too, making the Fleet Tempest utterly superfluous
If those agents were farmed, I guess we would also have seen the CNR price dropping, and that has never happened, and with the removal of both the COSMOS BPCs and most of the normal CNR offers, the damn things have become 50% more expensive.
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Exiled One
Amarr
Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2006.09.07 12:30:00 -
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Originally by: Leandro Salazar
Originally by: Exiled One
Originally by: Nyphur
Edited by: Nyphur on 07/09/2006 11:01:38
Originally by: Exiled One
Originally by: Jiekon
Edited by: Jiekon on 07/09/2006 10:44:27
I have spoken with the content team regarding the volume required to be moved in the new level 4 courier missions. alot of them are currently around 1m3
and will remain so untill around Kali 2 when it will get fixed.
Ask them about C O S M O S agents that give out 1 RUN BPC (frig, cruiser, bs) if you have 9,8+ to the faction and WHY they've been DISABLED, otherwise i'm afraid that it will get ugly !! And i hope iceland police has riot gear !!
My guess is farming. Have you seen the prices of the Fleet Tempest lately?
I'm more interested to know what happened to the other 4/5th of Gallente COSMOS and why they're off working on 0.0 COSMOS before finishing that (not that it won't be cool to have 0.0 COSMOS).
Farming??? Do you know what a bloody 9,9 standing to EMPIRE means???
Obviously not. Farming those things is VERY unreasonable considering the sheer amount of missions needed for that standing and that you can only use the agent once. The Reason for the price of Fleet Tempests dropping like a brick is most likely that:
a) they suck (at least for PvE which is the main usage of Faction ships)
b) The Maelstrom is proposed as an 8/6/6 ship too, making the Fleet Tempest utterly superfluous
If those agents were farmed, I guess we would also have seen the CNR price dropping, and that has never happened, and with the removal of both the COSMOS BPCs and most of the normal CNR offers, the damn things have become 50% more expensive.
Exactly, and for ****s sake CCP didnt even announce nor tell us about the bloody nerfs.
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Zrakor
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Posted - 2006.09.07 12:36:00 -
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Basically the 'fix' will involve simply adding in more heavy-load courier missions, we don't have any problem with people getting the low volume ones every now and then.
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Exiled One
Amarr
Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2006.09.07 12:37:00 -
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Originally by: Zrakor
Basically the 'fix' will involve simply adding in more heavy-load courier missions, we don't have any problem with people getting the low volume ones every now and then.
...And disabled COSMOS agents?
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Andrue
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.09.07 12:41:00 -
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Originally by: Jiekon
Edited by: Jiekon on 07/09/2006 10:44:27
I have spoken with the content team regarding the volume required to be moved in the new level 4 courier missions. alot of them are currently around 1m3
and will remain so untill around Kali 2 when it will get fixed.
Thanks for that update.
However perhaps you could have them take a look at the L4 Manufacturing agent at Hilaban (Tash-Murkon) (I can't remember the name - I just call him 'The Git'  ). Although the m3 is low it's either 600m3 or 2000m3. Still low for L4 but perhaps it might be worth finding out how and/or if those missions can be migrated onto other L4 agents.
The rewards from this agent aren't what they used to be but they are tolerable.
Of course I don't know how agents work so perhaps there is good reason for this agent bucking the trend so apologies if this is a silly suggestion 
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Nyphur
Pillowsoft
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.09.07 12:54:00 -
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Originally by: Exiled One
Originally by: Nyphur
My guess is farming. Have you seen the prices of the Fleet Tempest lately?
I'm more interested to know what happened to the other 4/5th of Gallente COSMOS and why they're off working on 0.0 COSMOS before finishing that (not that it won't be cool to have 0.0 COSMOS).
Farming??? Do you know what a bloody 9,9 standing to EMPIRE means???
A corp can start an alt and raise its standings by blasting through tens of missions per hour, the alt just has to give them a copy of the bookmark and turn the mission in when they're done. He can run any number of agents simultaneously and have the whole corp fleet do them for him. Once up to about 7-8, the rest can be completed by doing every COSMOS mission, every one of which counts as an important mission and gives good standing increases to faction. Since there are a buttload of minmatar and caldari agents, it's feasible to farm those two.
In fact, if each mission gives an average of 6% increase, which mine have been, you should be able to do it from about 7.0. And last I checked, I was getting 6% for level 3 missions. Gallente cosmos, of course, doesn't have any real level 4 agents. Minmatar and caldari do. It's entirely feasible to blast a player's standing up to 6 or 7 and then do all the caldari cosmos missions and get the nice rewards AND the standings to get the bpc. Hence, the BPCs and COSMOS are both farmable given the right effort.
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fuze
Gallente
Chosen Path
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.09.07 13:17:00 -
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@Jiekon, tell me you ment Kali 1 and not Kali 2.
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Valator Uel
Caldari
Pax Minor Asylum
Confederation of Independent Corporations
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Posted - 2006.09.07 14:44:00 -
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Edited by: Valator Uel on 07/09/2006 14:45:43
Thanks Jiekon for taking your time to post about this, if only other devs did the same for all the other issues/whining on the forums.
Now my turn to whine  ... (well, more of a rhetorical question)
Why were lots of courier missions implemented half-way instead of doing fewer but done properly? Saves you working on something you know is broken and will have to fix a few months down the road (Kali 2?  ).
Edit: Oh maybe you'd want to sticky this so others can read it.
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Dust Angel
True Core
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Posted - 2006.09.07 15:55:00 -
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most lvl 4s i got were about 5k m3. however, i noticed from yesterday to today, the lp got cut 1/4th
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Zrakor
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Posted - 2006.09.07 17:10:00 -
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Originally by: Exiled One
Originally by: Zrakor
Basically the 'fix' will involve simply adding in more heavy-load courier missions, we don't have any problem with people getting the low volume ones every now and then.
...And disabled COSMOS agents?
The disabled high-standing COSMOS agents have been re-enabled. I honestly have no idea why they were disabled, probably some mass-update gone wrong. This change probably won't take effect until after the next downtime though.
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Exiled One
Amarr
Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2006.09.07 17:15:00 -
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Originally by: Zrakor
Originally by: Exiled One
Originally by: Zrakor
Basically the 'fix' will involve simply adding in more heavy-load courier missions, we don't have any problem with people getting the low volume ones every now and then.
...And disabled COSMOS agents?
The disabled high-standing COSMOS agents have been re-enabled. I honestly have no idea why they were disabled, probably some mass-update gone wrong. This change probably won't take effect until after the next downtime though.
You serious...?  I thought this was some kind of sekkritt CCP stealth nerf, now that the problem is no more, we can go back to grinding that standing I love you, Zrakor 
Zrakor is my favourite dev, who's yours
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Leandro Salazar
Aeon Industries
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Posted - 2006.09.07 17:55:00 -
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Love for mission runner? Omg, impossible!
Thank you very much Zrakor.
As for COSMOS farming, yes there is COSMOS farming, but afaik only at a much lower level, requiring standings of 8 or lower. Getting to 9.9 even with Cosmos missions will take so damn long that it definitely is not worth the farming effort. Even less so if the reward is split between multiple people.
And if someone really DOES put in that kind of effort to get these offers with an alt, I don't think it can be called farming anymore.
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Cmdr Sy
EUROPEANS
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Posted - 2006.09.07 18:06:00 -
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Originally by: Exiled One
Zrakor is my favourite dev, who's yours
He is the One who moved Zalloronde Algogille out of Oursulaert and freed me from his slavery. *Reveres*
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Leandro Salazar
Aeon Industries
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Posted - 2006.09.07 18:46:00 -
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Btw Cmdr Sy, I miss your 'I sense... hostility' sig. You really should put it back where it belongs 
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Jiekon
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Posted - 2006.09.07 19:28:00 -
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Originally by: Valator Uel
Thanks Jiekon for taking your time to post about this, if only other devs did the same for all the other issues/whining on the forums.
The other devs are busy doing their jobs, fixing broken things and making new things. I`m sure you and i would rather they were doing that than
answering forums posts every 5 minutes.
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Siri Blue
Gallente
Eve University
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Posted - 2006.09.07 21:37:00 -
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Oh my god!
I'm waiting all day long for an answer to my thread in the general discussions where Jiekon posted yesterday....and didn't think about looking in the missions division...
I will wait to express my excitement till tomorrow...
As for the "fixing" of the volume courier missions...
Could you maybe explain how hard it is and how long it takes to code such a mission? Cause if its just a matter of an hour...um...how about making us happy campers by adding say a mission per week...this way we might see some diversity already when Kali 2 comes around...sometime...next year 
Oh pretty pretty pwease
I promise I will stop *****ing (much)
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Sirial Soulfly
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Posted - 2006.09.07 21:47:00 -
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Originally by: Zrakor
Originally by: Exiled One
Originally by: Zrakor
Basically the 'fix' will involve simply adding in more heavy-load courier missions, we don't have any problem with people getting the low volume ones every now and then.
...And disabled COSMOS agents?
The disabled high-standing COSMOS agents have been re-enabled. I honestly have no idea why they were disabled, probably some mass-update gone wrong. This change probably won't take effect until after the next downtime though.
/me huggles Zrakor
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Siri Blue
Gallente
Eve University
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Posted - 2006.09.07 21:56:00 -
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Hm...another question concerning the missions...
When are the offers going to be fixed?
All the decent high-end offers have been disabled it seems and all I get are 800k and 900k implant offers (and I have over 1.5 million LP)...
Can we expect a "fix" there with Kali 2 as well or will you safe us earlier? 
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Dudley Beekle
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Posted - 2006.09.08 07:17:00 -
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Originally by: Siri Blue
Hm...another question concerning the missions...
When are the offers going to be fixed?
All the decent high-end offers have been disabled it seems and all I get are 800k and 900k implant offers (and I have over 1.5 million LP)...
Can we expect a "fix" there with Kali 2 as well or will you safe us earlier?
I think you'd need to give the agent name. I keep getting 10 and 20mil implant offers. I just wish the damn things would sell on market but that's another matter
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Timotheus Siberius
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.09.08 11:02:00 -
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I also got a "Worlds Collide" mission from my level 4 courier agent. I never got a combat mission before, is this intended?
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Depko
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Posted - 2006.09.08 11:37:00 -
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Originally by: Dudley Beekle
Originally by: Siri Blue
Hm...another question concerning the missions...
When are the offers going to be fixed?
All the decent high-end offers have been disabled it seems and all I get are 800k and 900k implant offers (and I have over 1.5 million LP)...
Can we expect a "fix" there with Kali 2 as well or will you safe us earlier?
I think you'd need to give the agent name. I keep getting 10 and 20mil implant offers. I just wish the damn things would sell on market but that's another matter
the market is floded by implant in the last time. when i was new in the game, i payd 30-40M for a +3 implant . i am getting about 14-21M for one now. CCP apparently wants to drive their price down by oversupply on the market.
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Sirial Soulfly
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Posted - 2006.09.08 12:43:00 -
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The cosmos high faction standing agent worked for me! yay thanks again Zrakor for having this fixed.
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Sphynx Stormlord
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Posted - 2006.09.08 12:49:00 -
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It does seem somewhat unbalanced that there are lots of lev 4 courier missions that can be completed in 5-10 min with a frigate or even a shuttle.
And they contribute as much towards getting a lev 4 storyline mission as 2+ hour combat missions do.
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Exiled One
Amarr
Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2006.09.08 13:18:00 -
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Originally by: Sirial Soulfly
The cosmos high faction standing agent worked for me! yay thanks again Zrakor for having this fixed.
Yep! Although, i havent' claimed those, working on the standing, i'm looking forward to the moment when i'll be able to do so.
Once again, thank you, Zrakor !
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fuze
Gallente
Chosen Path
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.09.08 14:34:00 -
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2.5yr ago +3 implants were down to 4M a pop.
Even bought a +3 cha one for 2M back then.
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Darkon Icensun
Gallente
Synergy Evolved
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Posted - 2006.09.08 15:08:00 -
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Originally by: Sirial Soulfly
The cosmos high faction standing agent worked for me! yay thanks again Zrakor for having this fixed.
Just how high does you standing have to be to use these agents? I tried to use the lowest standing agent and got turned away.
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Siri Blue
Gallente
Eve University
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Posted - 2006.09.08 17:24:00 -
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8.6, 9.2 and 9.9 standings or at least something in that range...
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Miss Overlord
Gallente
Garoun Investment Bank
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Posted - 2006.09.08 20:16:00 -
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with regards to the missions no one does couriers anyway :P this might at least get ppl doing em more often instead of kill missions (distribute the loads as well as they tend to be 5-10 jump affairs) good move CCP (volume thing could be tweaked easily enough
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Sirial Soulfly
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Posted - 2006.09.08 20:17:00 -
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I could be wrong but I thought it was 9.5 for the frig, 9.7 for the cruiser, and 9.9 for the bs, and that is without the skill connections because that doesnt seem to work on those agents.
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Miss Overlord
Gallente
Garoun Investment Bank
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Posted - 2006.09.09 08:28:00 -
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Originally by: Sirial Soulfly
I could be wrong but I thought it was 9.5 for the frig, 9.7 for the cruiser, and 9.9 for the bs, and that is without the skill connections because that doesnt seem to work on those agents.
only calderi afaik
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SonShadowCat
PINK TACO TORPERS
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Posted - 2006.09.09 11:04:00 -
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Damn, I was hoping to start doing some lvl 4 transport missions but it seems like it's not worth it?
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Tachy
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Posted - 2006.09.09 11:35:00 -
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Grab a nanoed 'ceptor and run them by the dozen ...
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Posted - 2006.09.09 14:03:00 -
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Originally by: Depko
Originally by: Dudley Beekle
Originally by: Siri Blue
Hm...another question concerning the missions...
When are the offers going to be fixed?
All the decent high-end offers have been disabled it seems and all I get are 800k and 900k implant offers (and I have over 1.5 million LP)...
Can we expect a "fix" there with Kali 2 as well or will you safe us earlier?
I think you'd need to give the agent name. I keep getting 10 and 20mil implant offers. I just wish the damn things would sell on market but that's another matter
the market is floded by implant in the last time. when i was new in the game, i payd 30-40M for a +3 implant . i am getting about 14-21M for one now. CCP apparently wants to drive their price down by oversupply on the market.
But i doubt this will be enough to push people into low sec.
That's high compared to what they used to be, back when implants were a common reward, the +3's were sold for 5-7m each. That's sometime ago though.
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Victorian
Caldari
Custodian's of murder mystery
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Posted - 2006.09.09 21:09:00 -
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Say please how much it is precisely necessary standing (without skill connections?) to take away bpc -CNR at Zoun Makui?
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SonShadowCat
PINK TACO TORPERS
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Posted - 2006.09.09 23:08:00 -
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How much do lvl 4 transport agents give in ISK compared to combat agents( combat, security, etc)?
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fuze
Gallente
Chosen Path
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.09.09 23:26:00 -
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Still would like to know if Jiekon ment Kali 1 instead of Kali 2. |
Ezra
Gallente
Calista Industries
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Posted - 2006.09.10 02:59:00 -
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Originally by: fuze
Still would like to know if Jiekon ment Kali 1 instead of Kali 2.
I agree here. Kali 2 is a *LONG* way away. It took only a week to add these bugged missions in, it shouldn't take 3-4 months (Kali 1 is at least a month away, Kali 2 will probably be another 2-3 months) to fix the bugged missions, especially given that the reason for removing the "old" courier missions is that the "new" system is supposed to make it really easy to add missions.
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Andrue
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.09.11 09:45:00 -
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Edited by: Andrue on 11/09/2006 09:47:59
Originally by: Ezra
Originally by: fuze
Still would like to know if Jiekon ment Kali 1 instead of Kali 2.
I agree here. Kali 2 is a *LONG* way away. It took only a week to add these bugged missions in, it shouldn't take 3-4 months (Kali 1 is at least a month away, Kali 2 will probably be another 2-3 months) to fix the bugged missions, especially given that the reason for removing the "old" courier missions is that the "new" system is supposed to make it really easy to add missions.
Yeah. I've now given up running L4 missions with my alt during the week. The M3 isn't rising and the rewards have levelled off. I got an implant thanks to a story line mission but the price on those is tumbling.
Trouble is..when I get home from work I don't want to do combat and without courier missions there seems to be nothing else to do. I could mine (both my chars have full mining skills) but with over a bil in Isk what's the point? I might take a look at manufacturing again but I've been there and got the T-shirt. I don't subscribe to the "T1 is dead" mantra but it is a lot of work for relatively little gain.
Edit:One thing occurred to me. All this talk of getting rid of insta (I now support that) would guarantee that courier missions would be done afk. There'd just be no point in not doing. Up to L4 is a progression whereas L4 is a profession. If L4 courier missions remain 'nerfed' then it might be because they have something else in mind for us.
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Siri Blue
Gallente
Duvolle Laboratories Blue Division
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Posted - 2006.09.12 05:37:00 -
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Missions have been in a sorry state ever since I play and thats December 2005!
With the dragon patch though missions in general (and courier missions especially) are in a worse than sorry state! Actually pretty much inacceptable for a game such as Eve.
The diversity (of all missions) is horrible, the scaling for courier missions is more than lacking, the important missions are being farmed for implants as they give em out too easily and they ONLY give implants...
The agent offers are a bad joke, all they offer over 15k LP are Implants, Implants and more Implants.
The whole PvE section of the game is in a HORRIBLE state now for weeks (even Complexes which are just being camped)...and CCP honestly intends to leave it this way until Kali 2 which is to be expected CHRISTMAS earliest!?!
While I respect the work CCP has done in creating such a great game as Eve I just CANNOT understand how they can intend to leave a huge part of the game BROKEN and in a so very sorry state.
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Miss Overlord
Gallente
Garoun Investment Bank
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Posted - 2006.09.12 05:50:00 -
[49]
CCP hate doing content that pretty much sums it up
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fuze
Gallente
Chosen Path
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.09.12 10:43:00 -
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Originally by: Miss Overlord
CCP hate doing content that pretty much sums it up
I don't think they hate it. Just that they don't have time for it it seems. Even though a lot of volunteers are helping them.
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Sirial Soulfly
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Posted - 2006.09.12 11:05:00 -
[51]
Originally by: fuze
Originally by: Miss Overlord
CCP hate doing content that pretty much sums it up
I don't think they hate it. Just that they don't have time for it it seems. Even though a lot of volunteers are helping them.
MMOPVP > MMORPG ?
I do hope they will find the right balance at some point, when lvl 4's came out they were unbalanced and everybody moved into empire and had a field day, now lvl4's are pretty much nerfed to bits, I am sure the pendulum will swing back at some point again.
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Victorian
Caldari
Custodian's of murder mystery
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Posted - 2006.09.13 23:46:00 -
[52]
So with what standing is necessary to The cosmos high faction standing agent to receive bpc on BS?
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Mnengli Noiliffe
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Posted - 2006.09.14 10:23:00 -
[53]
Also could some dev pls look into the issue with "Elite Drone AI" item.
This item drops in the "Silence the Informant" lvl4 mission, first pocket. The NPC that drops it does not drop anything else, and does not have bounty, it's the "Elite Drone Parasite".
This mob was pretty much worthy kill in the past, before the offer table was utterly nerfed. There existed an offer where you could exchange 200 (or 100, don't remembet) of Elite Drone AI's for one CX-2 implant, which sold for 200m+ in the escrow.
Now that the offer was removed, there is no CX-2 implants sources left, and the Elite Drone AI items become useless, and Elite Drone Parasite mobs are now not worth killing...
So could you please return that offer back into game to fix these issues, or perhaps add bounty/mineral drop to the Paraside drones...
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Calio
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.09.15 11:31:00 -
[54]
Originally by: Mnengli Noiliffe
This mob was pretty much worthy kill in the past, before the offer table was utterly nerfed. There existed an offer where you could exchange 200 (or 100, don't remembet) of Elite Drone AI's for one CX-2 implant, which sold for 200m+ in the escrow.
Now that the offer was removed, there is no CX-2 implants sources left, and the Elite Drone AI items become useless, and Elite Drone Parasite mobs are now not worth killing...
So could you please return that offer back into game to fix these issues, or perhaps add bounty/mineral drop to the Paraside drones...
This offer is apparently back in the table. The prices for AI's have shot up again as of about 2 days ago.
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fuze
Gallente
Chosen Path
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.09.15 14:14:00 -
[55]
FYI Jiekon really means Kali 2.
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Baldour Ngarr
Artemis Rising
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Posted - 2006.09.15 22:53:00 -
[56]
Originally by: Victorian
So with what standing is necessary to The cosmos high faction standing agent to receive bpc on BS?
Standing to get the frigate bpc is definitely under 9. I picked mine up, with only 8.96 Minmatar standing.
To get the cruiser, is definitely under 9.4 ... I got Vexors with 9.39 Gallente standing.
To get the battleship is definitely above 9.39, cos I don't got it yet.
My tentative conclusion is that the old, original requirements - 8.6, 9.2, and 9.8 - are still valid.
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Nostragai Gadran
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Posted - 2006.09.16 04:00:00 -
[57]
I went to the COSMOS ship agents earlier and got the mission for the frigate BPC at 8.96 Caldari Standing. The other agents will not talk with me yet.
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Kerr AVON
Gallente
Freelancer Union
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Posted - 2006.09.16 10:49:00 -
[58]
I picked up the Gallente frigate bpc last night with an unmodified Gallente standing of +8.3
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Baldour Ngarr
Artemis Rising
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Posted - 2006.09.16 11:00:00 -
[59]
Originally by: Kerr AVON
I picked up the Gallente frigate bpc last night with an unmodified Gallente standing of +8.3
Uesless information. We need to know what your actual standing was.
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Kerr AVON
Gallente
Freelancer Union
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Posted - 2006.09.16 12:02:00 -
[60]
Originally by: Baldour Ngarr
Originally by: Kerr AVON
I picked up the Gallente frigate bpc last night with an unmodified Gallente standing of +8.3
Uesless information. We need to know what your actual standing was.
Sorry Baldour, I thought connections wasn't taken into account. My modified standing was +8.64 - which concurs with your assumptions.
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Baldour Ngarr
Artemis Rising
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Posted - 2006.09.16 13:43:00 -
[61]
Originally by: Kerr AVON
Sorry Baldour, I thought connections wasn't taken into account. My modified standing was +8.64 - which concurs with your assumptions.
In hindsight, it looks as though all the rumours about increased standing reqs, standing reqs being unmodified, etc. ... were all incorrect, the agents had simply been disabled by error.
The last figures I have that were definitely right at the time, were 8.6, 9.2, 9.8. Now that we know they're working again, we need to collect more information to prove or disprove their accuracy.
Thx for your input, anyway
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Hockston Axe
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.09.16 20:03:00 -
[62]
Well there are a few tiny thingsą
1.The new transport the homeless mission no longer gives you some of the homeless at the end. They must no longer fear the local authorities. Was this intentional to decrease the homeless population or an oversight?
2.Not complaining but am I the only one whoĘs gotten Whispers in the Dark important storyline seven times in a row lately?
3.I did a level 3 courier mission that had me go a grand total of 1,247 km.
And then thisą
Originally by: Baldour Ngarr
The last figures I have that were definitely right at the time, were 8.6, 9.2, 9.8. Now that we know they're working again, we need to collect more information to prove or disprove their accuracy.
I decided that since I was at 8.53 (8.40) with the Amarr Empire and still had a few of those Whispers in the Dark storylines clogging up my journal that I would pop up and find the agents now, and then come back when I was at 8.6. Well to my surprise the frigate agent offered me the mission. So it looks like 8.5 might be the magic number for that one.
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Hon Kovell
Gallente
Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2006.09.19 05:28:00 -
[63]
8.5 got me a Navy Comet as well.
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Goldfrapp
Templar Republic
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Posted - 2006.09.23 14:20:00 -
[64]
Im at 9.36 and its net me a 2 run Navy Caracal
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Mitsuko Souma
Gallente
The United Federation of Spice
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Posted - 2006.09.25 12:40:00 -
[65]
Yay for level 4 distro agents that dispatch you to 0.3 and pay you 300k (with bonus) and give you 400lp for the privilage!
Did it anyway, cos like most other people in this thread, um a hauler *****.
Anyway, is that still the norm for courier missions atm or is my agent just being a tart?
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Siri Blue
Gallente
Duvolle Laboratories Blue Division
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Posted - 2006.09.27 03:20:00 -
[66]
Yep, we are open! Err...
I mean, yes...courier missions are still frakked up...
Fix promised for Kali 2...whenever that will be
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Gerog
Gallente
Ashen Lion Mining and Production Consortium
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Posted - 2006.10.05 18:46:00 -
[67]
Woot!
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Hornymatt
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Posted - 2006.10.07 17:45:00 -
[68]
Originally by: Baldour Ngarr
Originally by: Kerr AVON
Sorry Baldour, I thought connections wasn't taken into account. My modified standing was +8.64 - which concurs with your assumptions.
In hindsight, it looks as though all the rumours about increased standing reqs, standing reqs being unmodified, etc. ... were all incorrect, the agents had simply been disabled by error.
The last figures I have that were definitely right at the time, were 8.6, 9.2, 9.8. Now that we know they're working again, we need to collect more information to prove or disprove their accuracy.
Thx for your input, anyway
Just as an update, I was turned away by the bs agent at Jolia / Augnais (sp?) gate earlier today with a modified Gallente Federation standing 9.81 (unmodified 9.77). Starting the long slog to 9.9 as we speak
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Hockston Axe
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.10.08 09:25:00 -
[69]
Another little update confirming that 9.2 standing is required for the cruiser agents. 9.22 (9.07) Amarr standing got me the cruiser, 9.1 wouldnĘt.
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Venkul Mul
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Posted - 2006.10.10 09:02:00 -
[70]
Originally by: Zrakor
Originally by: Exiled One
Originally by: Zrakor
Basically the 'fix' will involve simply adding in more heavy-load courier missions, we don't have any problem with people getting the low volume ones every now and then.
...And disabled COSMOS agents?
The disabled high-standing COSMOS agents have been re-enabled. I honestly have no idea why they were disabled, probably some mass-update gone wrong. This change probably won't take effect until after the next downtime though.
For all I can see they are still disabled. Maybe you have enabled them, but the next patch ad disabled them again.
Even if you have the required standing and not done a mission for them, they still say they have no mission for you.
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Darth Revanant
Amarr
1st Praetorian Guard
Vigilia Valeria
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Posted - 2006.10.13 15:51:00 -
[71]
I still can't get the amarr BS offer with an amarr empire standing of 9.88 unmodified, 9.90 w/ connections as of yesterday.
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Miss Overlord
Gallente
EUROPEANS
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Posted - 2006.10.16 05:08:00 -
[72]
maybe need to get some other amarr corps up - could be in need of support otherwise unsure
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crazod
Gallente
Zod Corp
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Posted - 2006.10.17 11:01:00 -
[73]
That happened with me too, i had to get to 9.89 unmodified, 9.90 modified before i got the mega offer.
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Goldfrapp
Templar Republic
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Posted - 2006.10.22 17:02:00 -
[74]
Edited by: Goldfrapp on 22/10/2006 17:02:36
What was needed for your mega offer from the agent please?
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Na Jenton
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Posted - 2006.10.22 20:41:00 -
[75]
is there a list of systems these agents are in?
(looking at caldari ones)
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Nukeitall
Nukeitall Coterie
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Posted - 2006.11.01 23:16:00 -
[76]
Originally by: Darth Revanant
I still can't get the amarr BS offer with an amarr empire standing of 9.88 unmodified, 9.90 w/ connections as of yesterday.
Confirm, similar for caldari.
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Kai DeathCutter
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Posted - 2006.11.07 11:36:00 -
[77]
Firstly I'm pretty sure its your un-modded standing that is required.
Secondly, please fix the courier missions before Kali-2, this is totally destroying the implant market.
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Shameless Avenger
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Posted - 2006.11.08 07:33:00 -
[78]
Originally by: Kai DeathCutter
Secondly, please fix the courier missions before Kali-2, this is totally destroying the implant market.
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Yumi Katanawe
Caldari
Demon Womb
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Posted - 2006.11.08 13:56:00 -
[79]
Edited by: Yumi Katanawe on 08/11/2006 13:59:55
+4 implants are at 40m now - at the current rate by the time kali2 hits those will be given out for free.
edit: it matters because implants are the way non-sploiting mission runners cash in lp's. Or they did. Now we all gotta move into caldari space because the cnr is the best-selling faction bs. Yay for more caldari space overcrowding.
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Ezra
Gallente
Calista Industries
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Posted - 2006.11.17 22:54:00 -
[80]
Originally by: Shameless Avenger
Originally by: Kai DeathCutter
Secondly, please fix the courier missions before Kali-2, this is totally destroying the implant market.
ehm... can you explain how does this affect you?
What do you mean?
Are you asking how these "broken" courier missions are affecting the implant market?
a) Now that some time has passed, the "broken" courier missions have nearly the same LP rewards as previous "huge cargo" courier missions. As a result, people are racking up massive amounts of LPs by nanoceptoring L4s. (Note: I've heard that not all agents give out lots of "broken" missions, but Gallente Production agents definately do.)
b) Since the "broken" courier missions can be nanoceptored easily, someone running them will get LOTS of storyline missions with +4 implants as rewards.
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Lord WarATron
Amarr
Out Siders
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.11.17 23:13:00 -
[81]
Edited by: Lord WarATron on 17/11/2006 23:15:08
Originally by: Ezra
Originally by: Shameless Avenger
Originally by: Kai DeathCutter
Secondly, please fix the courier missions before Kali-2, this is totally destroying the implant market.
ehm... can you explain how does this affect you?
What do you mean?
Are you asking how these "broken" courier missions are affecting the implant market?
a) Now that some time has passed, the "broken" courier missions have nearly the same LP rewards as previous "huge cargo" courier missions. As a result, people are racking up massive amounts of LPs by nanoceptoring L4s. (Note: I've heard that not all agents give out lots of "broken" missions, but Gallente Production agents definately do.)
b) Since the "broken" courier missions can be nanoceptored easily, someone running them will get LOTS of storyline missions with +4 implants as rewards.
The problem is too late to fix. People have now learned that they have afk run 10+ courier missions an hour while pvping with their main. Its like everyone has their own personal 10/10 plex without the risk.
Even if CCP fix's it - the change will have to mean that CCP will need to make all Lvl4 courier a freightor mission - otherwise people will gladly forgo some standing to mass spam easy missions.
I remember the days where lvl4 courier runners got laughed at by pretty much everyone. Now they are run by sweatshop farmers and pvpers who relise that making 200 mil+ a day afk is something they want :)
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Hockston Axe
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.11.18 21:14:00 -
[82]
Originally by: Ezra
(Note: I've heard that not all agents give out lots of "broken" missions, but Gallente Production agents definately do.)
Running only Amarr and Caldari lvl 4's (and lots of them) I can say that I have never once seen one of these bugged missions. Every mission I've seen has been around 1000 m3 to 5000 m3. I guess the Gallente just have it easy.
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Badgerface
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.11.18 22:36:00 -
[83]
Running Caldari hauling missions (Manufacturing agents @ Lvl 4) and amounts of cargo vary from 600m3 to 5000m3.
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Joskken Inx
J.H.E.N.R
Pure.
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Posted - 2006.11.19 04:19:00 -
[84]
Originally by: Badgerface
Running Caldari hauling missions (Manufacturing agents @ Lvl 4) and amounts of cargo vary from 600m3 to 5000m3.
Yeah, nothing "broken" that I see. Of course, nobody would actually say a name/corp of an lvl 4 agent that does these 1m*3 missions
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Hal Seldon
Gallente
Trader's Academy
Daikoku Trade Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.11.19 08:09:00 -
[85]
I did all of my first lvl4 courier missions with an Atron (the Federal Freight one in Bawilan, quality -19 or something) and quit mission running afterwards until a fix is applied.
From what I've heard, it's the higher quality lvl4 agents that give out higher volume missions.
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2006.11.19 09:15:00 -
[86]
Originally by: Joskken Inx
Yeah, nothing "broken" that I see. Of course, nobody would actually say a name/corp of an lvl 4 agent that does these 1m*3 missions
I will.
At Joviannon IV Federal Frieght station. 3 - 4 l4's that commonly give out 1 - 3 m3 missions. You can find all kinds of farmer alts throughout the that system and area just pumping missions.
That's just one example btw.
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