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Taschenflak
Federation of Synthetic Persons
YouWhat
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Posted - 2006.09.09 18:37:00 -
[1]
Edited by: Taschenflak on 09/09/2006 18:41:05
YouWhat//campaign//the first//"plastic fox"//
YouWhat moves to Cloud Ring.
on this account, our standings will be reset for relevant corporations and alliances.
cloud ring is until further notice classified as nbsi region.
for diplomatic requests please contact Wildcard or Lv STEIN (per evemail only).
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uglylil foo
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Posted - 2006.09.09 18:45:00 -
[2]
You WHAT?!?
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Chrony
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.09 18:48:00 -
[3]
Go YouWhat!
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Leilani Solaris
Gallente
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.09.09 18:55:00 -
[4]
Welcome to the Jungle
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Alizarin Crimson
SteelVipers
YouWhat
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Posted - 2006.09.09 19:01:00 -
[5]
signed
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Kujin
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.09.09 19:06:00 -
[6]
welcome :)
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Kujin
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.09.09 19:08:00 -
[7]
Edited by: Kujin on 09/09/2006 19:08:12
 Originally by: Taschenflak
cloud ring is until further notice classified as nbsi region.
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Nicocat
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.09.09 19:11:00 -
[8]
*smells irony in Outbreak posts*
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The opinions expressed by Nico do not reflect his corporation. He's just an ass.
-Alexi
Yes, I PvP in a Hookbill. How insane am I? EVE-Mail me and tell me! |
Gordon Red
SteelVipers
YouWhat
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Posted - 2006.09.09 19:15:00 -
[9]
*PengPeng*
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Turkantho
Asgard Schiffswerften
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.09 19:45:00 -
[10]
Edited by: Turkantho on 09/09/2006 19:45:23
thought I would have to wait another week for u guys to make that statement 
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Asgar[D]Ś |
Dragerest
Total Warehouse Logistics
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.09 19:48:00 -
[11]
thought RISE owned that.. guess i was wrong.. map is out of date than
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nerf WCS |
OMGWTF PWN
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Posted - 2006.09.09 20:15:00 -
[12]
Edited by: OMGWTF PWN on 09/09/2006 20:15:24
hrm....
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Scorched Evil
Dark Knights
S H I F T
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Posted - 2006.09.09 20:16:00 -
[13]
support from your friends in SHIFT.
Ready for the Dark Side? Join DKFS!
Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet. |
Dungar Loghoth
Caldari
Black Omega Security
E.R.A
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Posted - 2006.09.09 20:32:00 -
[14]
Who is D2 siding with?
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NOObbody
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.09 20:40:00 -
[15]
Is your intention to claim sov by placing poses?
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Shuriken Ertai
Fate.
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.09 20:41:00 -
[16]
Originally by: Dungar Loghoth
Who is D2 siding with?
0utbreak?
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Sakura Nihil
Tharsis Security
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Posted - 2006.09.09 20:47:00 -
[17]
It was fun in Syndicate hunting/being hunted by y'all.
GL up in the Ring.
Tharsis wants you - click it ;) |
DrLogan
New Age Solutions
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Posted - 2006.09.09 21:05:00 -
[18]
I'm so confused. =(
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Wrok
Caldari
Omerta Syndicate
Pure.
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Posted - 2006.09.09 21:15:00 -
[19]
its shoot or get shot over there in C.R gl to all
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Son
Eve Defence Force
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.09.09 21:27:00 -
[20]
gl, have fun & enjoy 
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Selpy
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.09.09 22:31:00 -
[21]
Originally by: Shuriken Ertai
Originally by: Dungar Loghoth
Who is D2 siding with?
0utbreak?
LOL if it only worked that way
Look deep into these eyes, they'll be the last thing to see you! |
MacDuncan
Minmatar
Unknown Society
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Posted - 2006.09.09 22:44:00 -
[22]
GL & HF!
It seems i should be carefull w. my clones in 2P-... 
--
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Oliberto Stewart
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Posted - 2006.09.09 22:55:00 -
[23]
Originally by: Dungar Loghoth
Who is D2 losing dreads to?
Fixed.
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Shuriken Ertai
Fate.
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.09 22:58:00 -
[24]
Originally by: Oliberto Stewart
Originally by: Dungar Loghoth
Who is D2 losing dreads to?
Fixed.
Do u even own one, alt?
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Cmd Woodlouse
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2006.09.10 00:09:00 -
[25]
Originally by: Oliberto Stewart
Originally by: Dungar Loghoth
Who is D2 losing dreads to?
Fixed.
To lag and broken game mechanics.
Noob.
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Even WOW is far better than EVE now. Please fix this broken Simcity-Pos-Game! |
Frater Perdurabo
The Ancient Illuminated Seers of Bavaria
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Posted - 2006.09.10 00:44:00 -
[26]
Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse
Originally by: Oliberto Stewart
Originally by: Dungar Loghoth
Who is D2 losing dreads to?
Fixed.
To lag and broken game mechanics.
Noob.
Tho i do agree with your sentiments, calling someone a noob is... just...
Ontopic, what about RISE... i heard (completely unsubstantiated by anybody in the know granted) rumours of civil war in RISE. So whats your relationship to them? According to the alliance map (which must be taken with a pinch of salt) they 'own' cloud ring at this time.
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Leilani Solaris
Gallente
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.09.10 01:10:00 -
[27]
Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse
Originally by: Oliberto Stewart
Originally by: Dungar Loghoth
Who is D2 losing dreads to?
Fixed.
To lag and broken game mechanics.
Noob.
I heard none player corp members weren't allowed to post in this section of the forum...
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Nahual
Gallente
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.09.10 02:14:00 -
[28]
o/ Woody!
Glad to see the rightful owners of CR getting what is theirs 
Much fun to be had by all, tbh Outbreak only want innerdrives corpse, 1,000 times.
Alliance map people; when the time comes I'm sure that the map will be updated as usually happens.
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FateCorp
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GandolftheWhite
Gallente
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.09.10 03:37:00 -
[29]
Originally by: Dragerest
thought RISE owned that.. guess i was wrong.. map is out of date than
RISE.....Who?
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Kim McCormack
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Posted - 2006.09.10 04:34:00 -
[30]
Originally by: Nahual
tbh Outbreak only want innerdrives corpse, 1,000 times.
InnerDrive is mine.
Any attempt of sodimy on aforementioned corpse shall be severely punished.
Good fun to be had by all, let's keep it clean, and see what we're made of.
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Kim McCormack
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Posted - 2006.09.10 04:35:00 -
[31]
Originally by: GandolftheWhite
RISE.....Who?
Impotence strikes even wizards. YourCock, man, YourCock!
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Garramon
Gallente
Sturmgrenadier Inc
R i s e
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Posted - 2006.09.10 05:10:00 -
[32]
Originally by: Nahual
...Much fun to be had by all, tbh Outbreak only want innerdrives corpse, 1,000 times. ...
Innerdrive is a member of D2.
For some reason the fact that ~50% of the people replying to the thread fail to read and understand the point of the OP is hilarious. |
Double Blade
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Posted - 2006.09.10 05:27:00 -
[33]
[ Quote:
Ontopic, what about RISE... i heard (completely unsubstantiated by anybody in the know granted) rumours of civil war in RISE.
Don't believe rumors. This civil war that you speak of doesn't exist.
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whohuhwhat
Gallente
principle of motion
R i s e
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Posted - 2006.09.10 05:43:00 -
[34]
Friendly reminder to all who post here. Please add your corp and/or alliance or 'they' will crop out your posts.
Good fights ahead, may they all be smack free.
whohuhwhat
Keeper of the herd
Still somewhat confused
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liquidism
Asgard Schiffswerften
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.10 07:36:00 -
[35]
lol
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Ilmonstre
Minmatar
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.09.10 08:34:00 -
[36]
Originally by: Garramon
Originally by: Nahual
...Much fun to be had by all, tbh Outbreak only want innerdrives corpse, 1,000 times. ...
Innerdrive is a member of D2.
he is a member if d2 since last night as he left BIG then whom are in RISE
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NATMav
F.R.E.E. Explorer
EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2006.09.10 18:53:00 -
[37]
I'm confused too. 
FREEE is Recruiting |
Cloue
Gallente
Geeklab
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Posted - 2006.09.10 19:05:00 -
[38]
Originally by: NATMav
I'm confused too.
Ok let me break it down for you,Youwhat have moved into CR which is currently Rise space,Toxin want innerdrives corpse and are fighing Rise with YouWhat.
The End
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Double Blade
Final Crusade Enterprises
R i s e
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Posted - 2006.09.10 19:07:00 -
[39]
OK, why the hell were my settings reset? Anyway, there is no civil war in RISE.
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TheDevilsJury
principle of motion
R i s e
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Posted - 2006.09.10 19:53:00 -
[40]
Originally by: Cloue
Originally by: NATMav
I'm confused too.
Ok let me break it down for you,Youwhat have moved into CR which is currently Rise space,Toxin want innerdrives corpse and are fighing Rise with YouWhat.
The End
Toxin are fighting everyone afaik
----------------------- sig below
Originally by: ISD
I don't think I've ever seen anyone hijack their own thread before
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Dhan
Resurrection
R i s e
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Posted - 2006.09.10 20:34:00 -
[41]
This is not correct. Toxin are + with YouWhat.
Originally by: TheDevilsJury
Toxin are fighting everyone afaik
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Nafri
Caldari
Cataclysm Enterprises
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.10 21:06:00 -
[42]
have fun guys (both sides)
From Dusk till Dawn
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Louisa Torres
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.10 21:14:00 -
[43]
Originally by: Dhan
This is not correct. Toxin are + with YouWhat.
Originally by: TheDevilsJury
Toxin are fighting everyone afaik
o_O
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Trinity Faetal
Gallente
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.09.10 21:51:00 -
[44]
Edited by: Trinity Faetal on 10/09/2006 21:51:24
Originally by: Cloue
Originally by: NATMav
I'm confused too.
Ok let me break it down for you,Youwhat have moved into CR which is currently Rise space,Toxin want innerdrives corpse and are fighing Rise with YouWhat.
The End
omg bewbs!
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Schneiderr
Times of Ancar
R i s e
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Posted - 2006.09.10 22:11:00 -
[45]
i really dont want to shoot outbreak, they got so nice forum signatures
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Cloue
Gallente
Geeklab
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Posted - 2006.09.10 22:57:00 -
[46]
They ain't that big
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Mimiru
Gallente
BIG Advanced Assault
R i s e
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Posted - 2006.09.10 23:49:00 -
[47]
mine > yours
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Join my corp! shoot people! |
KilROCK
Minmatar
Angel Deep Corporation
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Posted - 2006.09.11 00:33:00 -
[48]
Originally by: Mimiru
mine > yours
You might want to fix the size of the font in your signature tho, it looks all weird.
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Kim McCormack
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Posted - 2006.09.11 03:06:00 -
[49]
Originally by: Kim McCormack
Alt post removed - post with your main! If this is your main, see the rules for details on how to stop your posts getting removed - Serathu ([email protected])
Uhm, I would attach my corp and alliance and signature to my posts, apart from the fact that I cannot login to change them. I login, get re-directed, switch to forums, switch to the settings page, and get logged out.
And I think that anyone with two cells could look me up in-game and realise I'm an active alt of my IC husband Ray McCormack, a long-term respected (partially) member of BIG.
Besides, my comments were funny, not alt-troll flamebait.
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DANGEROUS
Fate.
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.11 11:19:00 -
[50]
To all my friends in YouWhat
Good luck )))
I hope u reclaim ur home )))
My thoughts are my own, and not those of my corp or alliance unless confirmed elsewhere.
I cannot take sides with my 220s as both parties as i understand it are blue to me ((
although i must point out that this hasnt stopped me in the past -p
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Kinsy
Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2006.09.11 11:24:00 -
[51]
PFFFFFFF
You lot are playing kill the noob in Cloud Ring and we've got like 6 new Xelas corps to make quit the alliance along with bobbits to spank.
Will someone please think of the CELES children?
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Lunamariea Hawke
Gallente
Combined industrial
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Posted - 2006.09.11 13:15:00 -
[52]
Can someone explain this in simple terms im confused.....
D2 gave 'you what' cloud ring.
Then they were going to give it to the goons
Rise suddenly appeared and had all sov
Now You what are coming back.
Where did 'you what' go for a month or so?
Who is really supposed to be there?
If D2 are blue to both which one will end up like the infamous Sparta?
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Zimi Vlasic
F.R.E.E. Explorer
EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2006.09.11 13:25:00 -
[53]
Originally by: Lunamariea Hawke
Can someone explain this in simple terms im confused.....
D2 gave 'you what' cloud ring.
Then they were going to give it to the goons
Rise suddenly appeared and had all sov
Now You what are coming back.
Where did 'you what' go for a month or so?
Who is really supposed to be there?
If D2 are blue to both which one will end up like the infamous Sparta?
D2 didn't give Youwhat cloud ring originally. YouWhat splinted from D2 in order to claim cloud ring.
D2 never gave Cloud Ring to the goons. Goons invaded, and D2 came in to take it back. After that fight, Rise was given Cloud Ring, apparently to the chagrin of YouWhat.
D2 have both set blue, and D2 will most likely remain that way until one of the entities decides to NAP an enemy of D2.
Find Roid, Examine, and Excavate Explorer |
NOObbody
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.11 13:27:00 -
[54]
Originally by: Zimi Vlasic
Originally by: Lunamariea Hawke
Can someone explain this in simple terms im confused.....
D2 gave 'you what' cloud ring.
Then they were going to give it to the goons
Rise suddenly appeared and had all sov
Now You what are coming back.
Where did 'you what' go for a month or so?
Who is really supposed to be there?
If D2 are blue to both which one will end up like the infamous Sparta?
D2 didn't give Youwhat cloud ring originally. YouWhat splinted from D2 in order to claim cloud ring.
D2 never gave Cloud Ring to the goons. Goons invaded, and D2 came in to take it back. After that fight, Rise was given Cloud Ring, apparently to the chagrin of YouWhat.
D2 have both set blue, and D2 will most likely remain that way until one of the entities decides to NAP an enemy of D2.
quoted for truthery
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xenorx
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.09.11 14:58:00 -
[55]
Originally by: Schneiderr
i really dont want to shoot outbreak, they got so nice forum signatures
Look at the bright side. There is nothing better than getting spanked by a hot chick.
No one can hear you scream in space, so just shut up and die already. |
General Xerxes
GREY COUNCIL
R i s e
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Posted - 2006.09.11 16:13:00 -
[56]
Originally by: Zimi Vlasic
D2 have both set blue, and D2 will most likely remain that way until one of the entities decides to NAP an enemy of D2.
Well YouWhat are fighting alongside TOXIN, an enemy of D2 so that obviously isn't enough motivation for D2 to get involved.
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NATMav
F.R.E.E. Explorer
EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2006.09.11 16:26:00 -
[57]
I'm still confused.
Who do I shoot???
HALP ME! Our ebil overlords D2 haven't given us our directive...
FREEE is Recruiting |
Zimi Vlasic
F.R.E.E. Explorer
EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2006.09.11 16:49:00 -
[58]
That's an easy one
We shoot Barry =D
Find Roid, Examine, and Excavate Explorer |
Laboratus
Gallente
BGG
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.11 18:04:00 -
[59]
So did you reset all your standings or just those of the corps and alliances in cloud ring?
Mind control and tin hats |
Kmacross
Times of Ancar
R i s e
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Posted - 2006.09.11 20:11:00 -
[60]
Quote:
i really dont want to shoot outbreak, they got so nice forum signatures
indeed schneiderr
and btw if u want innerdrives corpse, u just need to go to branch ;)
"no guts, no glory" |
Quarantine
Federation of Synthetic Persons
YouWhat
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Posted - 2006.09.11 20:37:00 -
[61]
Originally by: Laboratus
So did you reset all your standings or just those of the corps and alliances in cloud ring?
We've reset the standings to Rise. You turned up to help them out and shot us, so yours were reset aswell.
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Mistress Suffering
Einherjar Rising
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.11 21:26:00 -
[62]
Hmmm...
So now you're shooting 2 friendly alliances and NAP'ing with Outbreak?
That seems like a pretty slippery slope.
Not saying that as an official D2 rep or anything, just thinking out loud.
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Deva Blackfire
DAB
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.11 21:41:00 -
[63]
Im more than confused... so do we pew-pew one of the parties? Or just wait and see? ;p
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NOObbody
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.11 21:44:00 -
[64]
Originally by: Deva Blackfire
Im more than confused... so do we pew-pew one of the parties? Or just wait and see? ;p
No need to pew pew pew somewhere else than Tribute atm i think.
Most of them are cool guys too, and it wouldnŚt be much fun to shoot them...
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Ace Frehley
Minmatar
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.09.11 21:48:00 -
[65]
Oki oki, IŚm gone for a weekand and we got blues in "the rings" Jesus... Oh well have fun everyone :)
Ex dsma in a corp filled with ex Fixians... DonŚt worry, i hold my head high and smack back :P |
dan drorgar
Minmatar
principle of motion
R i s e
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Posted - 2006.09.11 23:33:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Mistress Suffering
Hmmm...
So now you're shooting 2 friendly alliances and NAP'ing with Outbreak?
If you call ganging up to shoot those friendly alliances and allowing Outbreak to operate out of your POSes "NAP'ing", I guess so...
not speaking for my alliance.
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Master OlavPancrazio
Einherjar Rising
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.12 04:20:00 -
[67]
Edited by: Master OlavPancrazio on 12/09/2006 04:21:07
Sounds fun, I wish there someway I could enjoy the amount of fighting that will be going on, but both those alliances are blue to me. 
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Trinity Faetal
Gallente
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.09.12 06:51:00 -
[68]
if rise can't defend outer ring from what is being thrown at them now, they don't deserve the region.
.. and stuff..
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Midiana
Eternal Rising
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.12 08:40:00 -
[69]
To clarify for the benefit of those who care.
Yes the Freelancer Alliance was active over the weekend in XZH.
We were asked by RISE whom we have Friendly standings for assistance against TOXIN with whom we hostile and Youwhat whom had just released a reset of standings and an NBSI statement (thus making us neutral and targets).
Freelancer Alliance will continue to do its best to uphold its friendly standings, but our main interest is stability on our borders so we hope both parties come to a resolution soon.
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BirdBleed
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Posted - 2006.09.12 09:05:00 -
[70]
Originally by: Midiana
we hope both parties come to a resolution soon.
there is no resolution, just death and destruction YaRRrrRRrrRr
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Taschenflak
Federation of Synthetic Persons
YouWhat
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Posted - 2006.09.12 09:17:00 -
[71]
Originally by: Midiana
...and Youwhat whom had just released a reset of standings and an NBSI statement (thus making us neutral and targets)...
Weve reset the standings of rise. Freelancer Alliance wasnt at any time neutral or below. Freelancer Alliance was blue to us and shot on us. We have reacted only on the agression from the Freelancer Alliance. We are interested in Cloud Ring. nothing more.
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Jurushy
SteelVipers
YouWhat
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Posted - 2006.09.12 11:26:00 -
[72]
it was FLA desission to go to CR
so i suggest they want be shoot by our force
for me there is no differense i have only more targets on my list
and an old german saying say
viel feind viel ehr
which can be translated as
The more danger, the more honor or so
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Laboratus
Gallente
BGG
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2006.09.12 11:47:00 -
[73]
Originally by: Taschenflak
Originally by: Midiana
...and Youwhat whom had just released a reset of standings and an NBSI statement (thus making us neutral and targets)...
Weve reset the standings of rise. Freelancer Alliance wasnt at any time neutral or below. Freelancer Alliance was blue to us and shot on us. We have reacted only on the agression from the Freelancer Alliance. We are interested in Cloud Ring. nothing more.
See, this is why I asked. The post given was a bit unclear on who were set to neutral. Due to this I was a wee bit confused about it. And it appears I'm not the only one who didn't quite understand who were set to neutral.
As for the conflict. I hope you can all resolve your issues as fast as possible with minimum loss of assets. I rather like both parties. And would rather not have either as red. And maybe travel in CR
-Laboratus
Disclaimer:
This is my personal opinion and does not represent that of my corp or alliance.
Mind control and tin hats |
Happydayz
FATAL REVELATIONS
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.09.12 12:15:00 -
[74]
D-R-A-M-A
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Louisa Torres
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.12 13:32:00 -
[75]
Originally by: Trinity Faetal
if rise can't defend outer ring from what is being thrown at them now, they don't deserve the region.
.. and stuff..
The same can be said of YouWhat, no?
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Kujin
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.09.12 14:19:00 -
[76]
for those who are involved.. you know whatŚs going on..
to those sitting on the other side of the fence : thereŚs a party going on ...
rumorz will sadly ( at least most of the times ) lead to flames....
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Trinity Faetal
Gallente
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.09.12 17:14:00 -
[77]
Originally by: Louisa Torres
Originally by: Trinity Faetal
if rise can't defend outer ring from what is being thrown at them now, they don't deserve the region.
.. and stuff..
The same can be said of YouWhat, no?
applies to anyone holding space 
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Marko Debreault
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.09.12 17:19:00 -
[78]
The FLA look cute and fuzzy!
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Louisa Torres
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.12 17:28:00 -
[79]
Originally by: Trinity Faetal
Originally by: Louisa Torres
Originally by: Trinity Faetal
if rise can't defend outer ring from what is being thrown at them now, they don't deserve the region.
.. and stuff..
The same can be said of YouWhat, no?
applies to anyone holding space
Indeed, though I was switching it round to "if you can't take it on your own...."
hf either way :)
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Kmacross
Times of Ancar
R i s e
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Posted - 2006.09.12 18:20:00 -
[80]
Quote:
if rise can't defend outer ring from what is being thrown at them now, they don't deserve the region. .. and stuff..
toxin u own a region ? , well rise is pretty young and is still getting logistics and industrial up again. U remember the goon invasion in Outer Ring, and Fa had a lot of trouble with BoB :)?!
Youwhat will be never be able to hold the region, because they are most Euro time players.
Well i hope the best for rise, but this depends mostly on the ppl. Well maybe it is time to blob ya guys out of Cloud Ring/Outer Ring ;)
"no guts, no glory" |
Terinnon
Amarr
SteelVipers
YouWhat
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Posted - 2006.09.12 19:12:00 -
[81]
We can hold a Region even if we are euro time and our enemy US time...
we had cloudring and we will have it again.
we gank in euro time rise hides. we sleep in us time rise works...
and our POS stands and stands and stands...
speakin only for my own!
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Cloue
Gallente
Geeklab
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Posted - 2006.09.12 19:19:00 -
[82]
Originally by: Terinnon
We can hold a Region even if we are euro time and our enemy US time...
we had cloudring and we will have it again.
we gank in euro time rise hides. we sleep in us time rise works...
and our POS stands and stands and stands...
speakin only for my own!
Then why do you need toxins help?
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Nicocat
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.09.12 20:02:00 -
[83]
*sits back in empire, munching *****ers, while his home is AGAIN englufed in the flames of war. And no goons this time. Wow.*
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The opinions expressed by Nico do not reflect his corporation. He's just an ass.
-Alexi
Yes, I PvP in a Hookbill. How insane am I? EVE-Mail me and tell me! |
Castor IV
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.09.12 22:19:00 -
[84]
Originally by: Cloue
Then why do you need toxins help?
Well actually we where invited to the party by Innerdrive, sadly he left the party prematurely.
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vache
Resurrection
R i s e
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Posted - 2006.09.12 22:19:00 -
[85]
Originally by: Terinnon
We can hold a Region even if we are euro time and our enemy US time...
No you can't? You've spent most your time hiding in your POS at 7-17
Originally by: Terinnon
we had cloudring and we will have it again
I believe that it was D2 that actually had it.
Originally by: Terinnon
we gank in euro time rise hides. we sleep in us time rise works...
How can that be the case if we popped your carrier during euro time today?
Originally by: Terinnon
and our POS stands and stands and stands...
Of course it does, we haven't bothered to take it down for ye yet.
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Earthan
Gallente
GREY COUNCIL
R i s e
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Posted - 2006.09.13 11:00:00 -
[86]
Edited by: Earthan on 13/09/2006 11:02:27
Originally by: Zimi Vlasic
Originally by: Lunamariea Hawke
Can someone explain this in simple terms im confused.....
D2 gave 'you what' cloud ring.
Then they were going to give it to the goons
Rise suddenly appeared and had all sov
Now You what are coming back.
Where did 'you what' go for a month or so?
Who is really supposed to be there?
If D2 are blue to both which one will end up like the infamous Sparta?
D2 didn't give Youwhat cloud ring originally. YouWhat splinted from D2 in order to claim cloud ring.
D2 never gave Cloud Ring to the goons. Goons invaded, and D2 came in to take it back. After that fight, Rise was given Cloud Ring, apparently to the chagrin of YouWhat.
D2 have both set blue, and D2 will most likely remain that way until one of the entities decides to NAP an enemy of D2.
Yuo only miss the part where Rise continually helped to kill goons ,in xzh in gang with d2 and youwhat and in s-u and in route from empire to cloud ring, check our killboards.
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Grey Council military officer,Rise Wing Commander.
Grey Council webpage
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Jurushy
SteelVipers
YouWhat
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Posted - 2006.09.13 11:15:00 -
[87]
Originally by: vache
Originally by: Terinnon
We can hold a Region even if we are euro time and our enemy US time...
No you can't? You've spent most your time hiding in your POS at 7-17
Originally by: Terinnon
we had cloudring and we will have it again
I believe that it was D2 that actually had it.
Originally by: Terinnon
we gank in euro time rise hides. we sleep in us time rise works...
How can that be the case if we popped your carrier during euro time today?
Originally by: Terinnon
and our POS stands and stands and stands...
Of course it does, we haven't bothered to take it down for ye yet.
1. LoL
2. i live there for nearly 3 years
3. where is the point?
4. u mean u are to cowerd to attak it if it will be defendet whit u dreads
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dan drorgar
Minmatar
principle of motion
R i s e
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Posted - 2006.09.13 11:20:00 -
[88]
Originally by: Castor IV
Originally by: Cloue
Then why do you need toxins help?
Well actually we where invited to the party by Innerdrive, sadly he left the party prematurely.
The Innerdrive joke is getting old now. Why don't you go harrass D2 if there is any truth in it?
not speaking for my alliance.
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Schneiderr
Times of Ancar
R i s e
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Posted - 2006.09.13 11:28:00 -
[89]
Edited by: Schneiderr on 13/09/2006 11:32:44
YouWhat? there is no YouWhat
edit... there is only outbreak, welcome guys
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vache
Resurrection
R i s e
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Posted - 2006.09.13 11:29:00 -
[90]
Originally by: Jurushy
1. LoL
2. i live there for nearly 3 years
3. where is the point?
4. u mean u are to cowerd to attak it if it will be defendet whit u dreads
Someone needs a dyper change! |
Juan Andalusian
TAOSP
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.13 13:30:00 -
[91]
I don't know about Cloud Ring but XZH belongs to me.
I was there before WildCard so it's rightfully mine.
**Pain is meant to be felt** |
WildCard
Gallente
SteelVipers
YouWhat
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Posted - 2006.09.13 14:05:00 -
[92]
@Juan Andalusian: You are the one which whom i would share it
-WildCard CEO SteelVipers-
--- We break for nobody--
--- G4Ever-- |
vache
Resurrection
R i s e
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Posted - 2006.09.13 14:20:00 -
[93]
Careful there Juan Andalusian, WildCard hasa a habit of pretending to share but then back stabbing. Just scare him with that sexy Nyx ye have in system. |
Foxdonut
SteelVipers
YouWhat
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Posted - 2006.09.13 15:17:00 -
[94]
Don't advise Juan about the do's and don'ts with his big brother.
- I'm still confused but on a much higher level - |
shakaZ XIV
Caldari
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.13 16:48:00 -
[95]
Quote:
Maybe thats part of the reason why D2 considered to give it to us?
Maybe they just gave it to whoever wanted to take it at the time, as long as it wasn't the Goons? So they could be done with and not fight a 2-front pos war? ._.
To ze germanz: Good luck with operation Plastic Fox :p
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Baun
Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2006.09.13 18:18:00 -
[96]
Originally by: Juan Andalusian
I don't know about Cloud Ring but XZH belongs to me.
I was there before WildCard so it's rightfully mine.
Nonsense XZH belongs to THEMM!
Sorry couldn't avoid an old joke :P
The Enemy's Gate is Down
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Juan Andalusian
TAOSP
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.13 20:51:00 -
[97]
Originally by: Baun
Originally by: Juan Andalusian
I don't know about Cloud Ring but XZH belongs to me.
I was there before WildCard so it's rightfully mine.
Nonsense XZH belongs to THEMM!
Sorry couldn't avoid an old joke :P
Pff we went blue on blue on THEMM already. Wildy is just making sure the trend carries on in XZH.
**Pain is meant to be felt** |
Ace Frehley
Minmatar
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.09.14 14:22:00 -
[98]
Edited by: Ace Frehley on 14/09/2006 14:25:49
Originally by: Kmacross
Quote:
if rise can't defend outer ring from what is being thrown at them now, they don't deserve the region. .. and stuff..
toxin u own a region ? , well rise is pretty young and is still getting logistics and industrial up again. U remember the goon invasion in Outer Ring, and Fa had a lot of trouble with BoB :)?!
Youwhat will be never be able to hold the region, because they are most Euro time players.
Well i hope the best for rise, but this depends mostly on the ppl. Well maybe it is time to blob ya guys out of Cloud Ring/Outer Ring ;)
You missed the point with Toxin. We donŚt want regions, we dont wanna defend regions. The word "POS" is worse then any faul word you can think of in our corp . We just wanna "peew-peew-peew" cuz most of us has lived the "alliance-life" but bored by the politcis and the lagwa... sorry mean pos-war and sieges.
(hope I dont get kicked for usin that ugly wrod so much latley)
SHOUT AT THE DEVIL!!!
Outbreak f-k yeah! |
SwindonBadger
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.09.20 08:35:00 -
[99]
got to be an admeral in a big alliance, got to be director, got to sit charging stations , got to sit waiting for ss sitting punks, had to wait in ss for other big number punks, got more board
left alliance joined outbreak,
never looked back.
happy days
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SaorAlba
Cataclysm Enterprises
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.20 16:47:00 -
[100]
I would like to request an update about the fighting. Checking the map this morning RISE held all stations.
Is YW deploying POS? How is the count at the moment if the do.
IS YW controlling the route's to empire? Can the succesfully block acces to XZH?
Did you all had a few nice lag free fight's? How was the general outcome?
Is the YW allaince deploying dreads? How much and wenn?
My questions are out of honest intrest. I seek answers not flames.
Greetz, Alba.
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Garramon
Gallente
Sturmgrenadier Inc
R i s e
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Posted - 2006.09.20 17:13:00 -
[101]
Well, I would like to answer those questions, but I will leave that to the diplomats.
I can say this. POS warfare makes me want to stick a spoon in my ear and twist. I totally understand the motivation behind 0utbreak at the moment.
For some reason the fact that ~50% of the people replying to the thread fail to read and understand the point of the OP is hilarious. |
Nahual
Gallente
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.09.20 17:39:00 -
[102]
Originally by: SaorAlba
I would like to request an update about the fighting. Checking the map this morning RISE held all stations.
Is YW deploying POS? How is the count at the moment if the do.
IS YW controlling the route's to empire? Can the succesfully block acces to XZH?
Did you all had a few nice lag free fight's? How was the general outcome?
Is the YW allaince deploying dreads? How much and wenn?
My questions are out of honest intrest. I seek answers not flames.
Greetz, Alba.
Feel free to drop us a line but,
Yes, undisclosed number (more than RISE)
F7C is generally controlled by outbreak, we have also started empire opeations on RISE and their merc corp.
I've stuck clear of XZH for the most part, so cant comment on lag.
RISE has deployed dreads again YW towers, but so far has done little more than dent the POS (aka POS war style), you know how it goes.
I wont give any more details, coz it's not my place to, but that should answer the general questions and the information might not be complete.
Gratz on d7- btw.
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FateCorp
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Shittake
RONA Deepspace
Rule of Three
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Posted - 2006.09.20 17:46:00 -
[103]
Who is this "YouWhat" alliance anyways? :)
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Nahual
Gallente
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.09.20 17:54:00 -
[104]
Originally by: ****take
Who is this "YouWhat" alliance anyways? :)
STV and FSP when they left DŚ to remain in Cloud Ring, believe new members may have joined, but dont quote me on that
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FateCorp
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Marko Debreault
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.09.20 18:15:00 -
[105]
Outbreak has declared empire war on RISE and Trinity Nova, who are doing some consulting for RISE, to keep pressure up.
We have room for a third war dec, and as soon as I can identify a decent target, a vote will occur. The more the merrier.
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Harisdrop
Gallente
RONA Deepspace
Rule of Three
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Posted - 2006.09.20 18:38:00 -
[106]
Originally by: Nahual
Originally by: ****take
Who is this "YouWhat" alliance anyways? :)
STV and FSP when they left DŚ to remain in Cloud Ring, believe new members may have joined, but dont quote me on that
My friend Sh ittake is a creator. He pulls the great magic lever of Alliance making.
YouWhatYouWhat [-Y-]
Established on 2006.06.26 by Shi ttake
Executor Corporation: Advanced Alliance Holdings Corporation
-Y- claims following systems: 9-4RP2.
Soo it goes to show the POWER of RULE We therefore claim all regions which Sh ittake has created!
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Tenrevo
LoneWolf Mining
R i s e
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Posted - 2006.09.21 08:31:00 -
[107]
Originally by: Terinnon
...we gank in euro time rise hides. we sleep in us time rise works...
That's a good one
This is my personal opinion and doesn't reflect etc. etc. 
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C Duggan
Gallente
Pandoras Mining Covanant
R i s e
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Posted - 2006.09.21 08:58:00 -
[108]
Originally by: Harisdrop
Originally by: Nahual
Originally by: ****take
Who is this "YouWhat" alliance anyways? :)
STV and FSP when they left DŚ to remain in Cloud Ring, believe new members may have joined, but dont quote me on that
My friend Sh ittake is a creator. He pulls the great magic lever of Alliance making.
YouWhatYouWhat [-Y-]
Established on 2006.06.26 by Shi ttake
Executor Corporation: Advanced Alliance Holdings Corporation
-Y- claims following systems: 9-4RP2.
Soo it goes to show the POWER of RULE We therefore claim all regions which Sh ittake has created!
just to clarify, i noticed this a few days ago, was a real WTF moment, i am almost sure that this is a glitch / update delay / mistake on the forums, as RISE definately claims soverignty over 9-4rp2.
just to give a fair represenstation, YouWhat do claim the system MJYW-3 in cloud ring.
_________________________________________
new aliance, new sig in the making.
RISE above the rest.
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grizouh
Tri Optimum
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.21 10:46:00 -
[109]
because the quote from the alliance site misses one information:
last update on: 2006.07.14 12:00
;o)
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Borg017
BIG Advanced Assault
R i s e
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Posted - 2006.09.22 00:39:00 -
[110]
Originally by: Marko Debreault
Outbreak has declared empire war on RISE and Trinity Nova, who are doing some consulting for RISE, to keep pressure up.
We have room for a third war dec, and as soon as I can identify a decent target, a vote will occur. The more the merrier.
Keep the pressure up? Whatever happened to the good ol "pew-pew-pew" and "we shoot anything" 0utbreak? I thought I understood (and respected) your corp concept. I'm beginning to question whether you guys are actually in it for the "fun" factor. Hidden agenda ftl?
"We consider any pilot, in any region of space, empire
controlled or otherwise, a target for destruction."
^---Please update your corp description accordingly
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whisk
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.09.22 00:53:00 -
[111]
Originally by: Borg017
Originally by: Marko Debreault
Outbreak has declared empire war on RISE and Trinity Nova, who are doing some consulting for RISE, to keep pressure up.
We have room for a third war dec, and as soon as I can identify a decent target, a vote will occur. The more the merrier.
Keep the pressure up? Whatever happened to the good ol "pew-pew-pew" and "we shoot anything" 0utbreak? I thought I understood (and respected) your corp concept. I'm beginning to question whether you guys are actually in it for the "fun" factor. Hidden agenda ftl?
"We consider any pilot, in any region of space, empire
controlled or otherwise, a target for destruction."
^---Please update your corp description accordingly
Hidden agenda? Where do you see that then? Simply put RISE are our focus right now, we have YW as allies in this campaign, reasons behind it isn't for you to know.
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Nahual
Gallente
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.09.22 00:55:00 -
[112]
Originally by: Borg017
Originally by: Marko Debreault
Outbreak has declared empire war on RISE and Trinity Nova, who are doing some consulting for RISE, to keep pressure up.
We have room for a third war dec, and as soon as I can identify a decent target, a vote will occur. The more the merrier.
Keep the pressure up? Whatever happened to the good ol "pew-pew-pew" and "we shoot anything" 0utbreak? I thought I understood (and respected) your corp concept. I'm beginning to question whether you guys are actually in it for the "fun" factor. Hidden agenda ftl?
"We consider any pilot, in any region of space, empire
controlled or otherwise, a target for destruction."
^---Please update your corp description accordingly
Check our killboard please, you're not the only targets we have and we shot you in empire before we declared a war, we shot anything, low-sec, 0.0 (not sure about high sec ) and we have a very small number of blues, and an NBSI.
There is hidden no agenda (or maybe it's to hidden I don't know about it), it's just good to have a campaign, and this one is that 0utbreak was baited into attacking RISE and we want to cause you as much harm as possible to prove that playing with fire sometime gets you burnt.
At least that is my take on things ,
Nahual
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FateCorp
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Borg017
BIG Advanced Assault
R i s e
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Posted - 2006.09.22 02:51:00 -
[113]
Originally by: whisk
Originally by: Borg017
Originally by: Marko Debreault
Outbreak has declared empire war on RISE and Trinity Nova, who are doing some consulting for RISE, to keep pressure up.
We have room for a third war dec, and as soon as I can identify a decent target, a vote will occur. The more the merrier.
Keep the pressure up? Whatever happened to the good ol "pew-pew-pew" and "we shoot anything" 0utbreak? I thought I understood (and respected) your corp concept. I'm beginning to question whether you guys are actually in it for the "fun" factor. Hidden agenda ftl?
"We consider any pilot, in any region of space, empire
controlled or otherwise, a target for destruction."
^---Please update your corp description accordingly
Hidden agenda? Where do you see that then? Simply put RISE are our focus right now, we have YW as allies in this campaign, reasons behind it isn't for you to know.
Well I'm not sure if it was the whiskey typing (as I rarely post on forums). I was pondering...hmmmm....It is one thing to ally with an entity that has no desire to acquire territory but your current ally is not the former. From my perspective, 0utbreak made headlines when it battled BoB in fountains but siding with Celes. It intrigued me that a relatively unknown/new corp was causing such a ruckus. I said to my self, wow now that's a pure pvp corp for ya. A corp that is based on being anti-alliance. But your current campaign really negate any of the claims your corp previously made.
"The empires of the central core and the alliances of the
frontier all too often seek to control others by means of
borders, regulations, propaganda, and other weak ineffectual
means of manipulation."
Why would you help an alliance gain control of a region?
please don't take this as flame bait or whatever clever name you wish to call it, I seriously am intrigued about the momentum your corp has picked up in recent months (not in the war though) but am confused as why you would interfere with the YW/RISE war? If you just plain hate RISE, why side with YW which has an interest in a region?
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Mindlles
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.09.22 06:28:00 -
[114]
Originally by: Borg017
Originally by: whisk
Originally by: Borg017
Originally by: Marko Debreault
Outbreak has declared empire war on RISE and Trinity Nova, who are doing some consulting for RISE, to keep pressure up.
We have room for a third war dec, and as soon as I can identify a decent target, a vote will occur. The more the merrier.
Keep the pressure up? Whatever happened to the good ol "pew-pew-pew" and "we shoot anything" 0utbreak? I thought I understood (and respected) your corp concept. I'm beginning to question whether you guys are actually in it for the "fun" factor. Hidden agenda ftl?
"We consider any pilot, in any region of space, empire
controlled or otherwise, a target for destruction."
^---Please update your corp description accordingly
Hidden agenda? Where do you see that then? Simply put RISE are our focus right now, we have YW as allies in this campaign, reasons behind it isn't for you to know.
Well I'm not sure if it was the whiskey typing (as I rarely post on forums). I was pondering...hmmmm....It is one thing to ally with an entity that has no desire to acquire territory but your current ally is not the former. From my perspective, 0utbreak made headlines when it battled BoB in fountains but siding with Celes. It intrigued me that a relatively unknown/new corp was causing such a ruckus. I said to my self, wow now that's a pure pvp corp for ya. A corp that is based on being anti-alliance. But your current campaign really negate any of the claims your corp previously made.
"The empires of the central core and the alliances of the
frontier all too often seek to control others by means of
borders, regulations, propaganda, and other weak ineffectual
means of manipulation."
Why would you help an alliance gain control of a region?
please don't take this as flame bait or whatever clever name you wish to call it, I seriously am intrigued about the momentum your corp has picked up in recent months (not in the war though) but am confused as why you would interfere with the YW/RISE war? If you just plain hate RISE, why side with YW which has an interest in a region?
As rise pilots use the dissipear from space button as soon a outbreak member enter the system, nessary means are taken. We still shoot everything tho,
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Selpy
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.09.22 06:56:00 -
[115]
Originally by: Borg017
*snip*
please don't take this as flame bait or whatever clever name you wish to call it, I seriously am intrigued about the momentum your corp has picked up in recent months (not in the war though) but am confused as why you would interfere with the YW/RISE war? If you just plain hate RISE, why side with YW which has an interest in a region?
Simple answer..
pew pew.....
zatt zatt....
boom boom....
"you got mail"
*\o/*
Look deep into these eyes, they'll be the last thing to see you! |
whisk
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.09.22 07:16:00 -
[116]
Originally by: Borg017
Originally by: whisk
Originally by: Borg017
Originally by: Marko Debreault
Outbreak has declared empire war on RISE and Trinity Nova, who are doing some consulting for RISE, to keep pressure up.
We have room for a third war dec, and as soon as I can identify a decent target, a vote will occur. The more the merrier.
Keep the pressure up? Whatever happened to the good ol "pew-pew-pew" and "we shoot anything" 0utbreak? I thought I understood (and respected) your corp concept. I'm beginning to question whether you guys are actually in it for the "fun" factor. Hidden agenda ftl?
"We consider any pilot, in any region of space, empire
controlled or otherwise, a target for destruction."
^---Please update your corp description accordingly
Hidden agenda? Where do you see that then? Simply put RISE are our focus right now, we have YW as allies in this campaign, reasons behind it isn't for you to know.
Ok i think i see what you're getting at here, if we're anti alliance why are we helping an alliance? Well certain comments were made to us by a (now ex) well known big member during our fountain escapades, which we didn't take to kindly. So we decided that our next focus would lean towards you guys. Now as stated we have zero interest in claiming/defending space, due to most of the corp already having done that and been bored to death by it. So the next most logical step would be to help a chosen alliance that we like the sound of who has an interest in your region, get that region for their selfs.
Under no circumstances am i saying here that YW needed our help, TOXINS efforts inside XZH have been at a minimal and our main focus is just killing as many of you as we can where ever we can find you.
But with our overall goal being that we want to remove you from your space and knowing that we really can't be ****** to have a POS war, would it make sense for us to start shooting YW? To me, no it wouldn't.
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Earthan
Gallente
GREY COUNCIL
R i s e
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Posted - 2006.09.22 07:36:00 -
[117]
Edited by: Earthan on 22/09/2006 07:40:43
Edited by: Earthan on 22/09/2006 07:38:03
Come on Whisk , be honest, Yuowhat without Outbreak would have lost their pos on second day of the conflict(and even with Outbreak they lost a carrer then ).Without Outbreak Yuowhat would be dead very fast and thats the simple fact.
Saying that you just roam around isnt true , you are clearly allied with Yuowhat , coming alwys when they need you.TAOSP is roamign aroudn killing whatever they can.
I dont know btw how can you like Yuowhat over us: we are mostly a bunch of disorgonised, ever arguing carebears, but youwaht is abunch of backstabbing sneaky egomaniacs
BTW if anyone interested , first pos of Yuowhat have been killed, pos spamming goes on, not sure whats the ratio ,changes fast.I think yest during later Eve time Yuowhat and allias blobbed us for the first tiime for some days in xzh ( so i understood was only earlier online when we controlled gate).
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Grey Council military officer,Rise Wing Commander.
Grey Council webpage
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James Damar
Caldari
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.09.22 07:48:00 -
[118]
Quote:
you are clearly allied with Yuowhat , coming alwys when they need you
Usually those times mean you have a good gang up and we have lots of chance on shooty shooty, now who doesn't like that idea :)
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Mindlles
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.09.22 08:07:00 -
[119]
Originally by: Earthan
Edited by: Earthan on 22/09/2006 07:40:43
Edited by: Earthan on 22/09/2006 07:38:03
Come on Whisk , be honest, Yuowhat without Outbreak would have lost their pos on second day of the conflict(and even with Outbreak they lost a carrer then ).Without Outbreak Yuowhat would be dead very fast and thats the simple fact.
Saying that you just roam around isnt true , you are clearly allied with Yuowhat , coming alwys when they need you.TAOSP is roamign aroudn killing whatever they can.
I dont know btw how can you like Yuowhat over us: we are mostly a bunch of disorgonised, ever arguing carebears, but youwaht is abunch of backstabbing sneaky egomaniacs
BTW if anyone interested , first pos of Yuowhat have been killed, pos spamming goes on, not sure whats the ratio ,changes fast.I think yest during later Eve time Yuowhat and allias blobbed us for the first tiime for some days in xzh ( so i understood was only earlier online when we controlled gate).
Whisk have already answerd ur questions once. Who we choise to support in what we do is up to us, not u. And we have no real intrest to really dissusie this with u i think.
U schould be spending less time here trying to figure this out, and more time trying to get ur fighters to stay online when outbreak enter ur systems. So we all can have a good time, and alot off fun.
Mind
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Gareitonis
Gallente
Space Invaders
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Posted - 2006.09.22 09:51:00 -
[120]
the real question is:
ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED !?
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Tanya Kovacs
SteelVipers
YouWhat
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Posted - 2006.09.22 10:52:00 -
[121]
Originally by: Gareitonis
the real question is:
ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED !?
Especially some of the IRSE-postings (Hey swapping letters is funny I tell ya! ) on this page are entertaining like nothing else.
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All my postings reflects just my personal opinion and my lacking knowledge of proper english.
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liquidism
Asgard Schiffswerften
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.22 11:03:00 -
[122]
so POS get deployed.. lol interesting.. i thought you guys did not want to do this anymore
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Tenrevo
LoneWolf Mining
R i s e
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Posted - 2006.09.22 11:38:00 -
[123]
Sorry guys, but all I read is *flame*, *flame*, *flame*. Let's shoot each other in space and stop pi**ing at each others knee
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Caldess
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.09.22 15:47:00 -
[124]
Originally by: Borg017
Why would you help an alliance gain control of a region?
...
why you would interfere with the YW/RISE war?
...
why side with YW which has an interest in a region?
Because we can. You wanted an honest answer, and there it is. We go wherever we want, shoot whomever we want and help whomever we want whenever we want. It could be for a day, it could be for a lot of days.
You never know where we might show up and have fun.
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Kharakan
Amarr
GREY COUNCIL
R i s e
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Posted - 2006.09.22 19:14:00 -
[125]
And we shoot back (sometimes ) and then, more often than not, fun fights happen which makes people happy. =]
Originally by: ParMizaN
evry1ghasb a limiy...
...and ijust reached it ahaha...
this signature space is claimed in the name of eris, haha I got to him first. neeneer
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BirdBleed
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Posted - 2006.09.23 04:04:00 -
[126]
Edited by: BirdBleed on 23/09/2006 04:05:36
Originally by: Borg017
Originally by: Marko Debreault
Outbreak has declared empire war on RISE and Trinity Nova, who are doing some consulting for RISE, to keep pressure up.
We have room for a third war dec, and as soon as I can identify a decent target, a vote will occur. The more the merrier.
Keep the pressure up? Whatever happened to the good ol "pew-pew-pew" and "we shoot anything" 0utbreak? I thought I understood (and respected) your corp concept. I'm beginning to question whether you guys are actually in it for the "fun" factor. Hidden agenda ftl?
"We consider any pilot, in any region of space, empire
controlled or otherwise, a target for destruction."
^---Please update your corp description accordingly
innerdrive smacked us, we came to kill your alliance. You-what wants your space, we will help them take it
hope that answers your questions :) have a nice day
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Lord Ao
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Posted - 2006.09.25 00:10:00 -
[127]
Edited by: Lord Ao on 25/09/2006 00:11:28
ops
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Kinsy
Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2006.09.25 12:12:00 -
[128]
Nono, the real question is, if i jump to my Clone in XZH and undock, will i be shot at? Theres a brain twizzler for you.
YouWhat corps let us put them in.
Goonies didnt move mine (hehe)
RISE didn't either (ty)
Now YouWhat have it back.
Every time i look at my jumpclones i see a new station name, its quite funny :P
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TheDevilsJury
principle of motion
R i s e
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Posted - 2006.09.25 18:30:00 -
[129]
Jump clones can't be evicted, unlike medical clones. I still have my JC in xzh, even though my medical clone was sent back to Renyn.
----------------------- sig below
Originally by: ISD
I don't think I've ever seen anyone hijack their own thread before
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Farrellus Cameron
Sturmgrenadier Inc
R i s e
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Posted - 2006.09.26 02:29:00 -
[130]
I thought you Toxin guys didn't like POS warfare? Now you've gotten sucked back into it.
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Adam C
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.09.26 02:36:00 -
[131]
Originally by: Farrellus Cameron
I thought you Toxin guys didn't like POS warfare? Now you've gotten sucked back into it.
said u (means nothing)
"look at me ma' im in a thread."
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Adam C
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.09.26 02:39:00 -
[132]
Originally by: TheDevilsJury
Jump clones can't be evicted, unlike medical clones. I still have my JC in xzh, even though my medical clone was sent back to Renyn.
always a good skill to get to lv5
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KnifeyMcShanker
New Age Solutions
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Posted - 2006.09.26 06:30:00 -
[133]
Edited by: KnifeyMcShanker on 26/09/2006 06:31:06
New Age Solutions has tried hard to stay neutral in this conflict, while living in Cloud Ring, the region that has been our home since the days of G Alliance. But I'm sorry to say that misunderstandings caused us to become targets of both sides for a short amount of time. From now on, we will be supporting YouWhat Alliance and their cause.
I hate to see old friends set to red, but it had to be done.
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Schneiderr
Asgard Schiffswerften
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.09.26 10:40:00 -
[134]
Originally by: KnifeyMcShanker
... From now on, we will be supporting YouWhat Alliance and their cause.
I hate to see old friends set to red, but it had to be done.
sweet... then why you set them to red? rise closed the refinery for you?!
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Selpy
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.09.26 11:49:00 -
[135]
Originally by: Farrellus Cameron
I thought you Toxin guys didn't like POS warfare? Now you've gotten sucked back into it.
Do you see TOXIN POS's deployed? No
Do you see TOXIN Carrier's? No
Do you see TOXIN Dread's? No
So I'll quote myself from page 4
Originally by: Selpy
Simple answer..
pew pew.....
zatt zatt....
boom boom....
"you got mail"
*\o/*
Look deep into these eyes, they'll be the last thing to see you! |
dan drorgar
Minmatar
principle of motion
R i s e
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Posted - 2006.09.26 11:59:00 -
[136]
Edited by: dan drorgar on 26/09/2006 12:06:40
Originally by: KnifeyMcShanker
Edited by: KnifeyMcShanker on 26/09/2006 06:31:06
[yada yada] From now on, we will be supporting YouWhat Alliance and their cause.
I hate to see old friends set to red, but it had to be done.
I've expected you so-called "friends" to do this all along. RISE has always had a big weakness, it allowed far too many leeches like NAS, ARHO and YW in its space, leaving it vulnerable to backstabbing of this kind.
not speaking for my alliance.
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KnifeyMcShanker
New Age Solutions
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Posted - 2006.09.26 14:09:00 -
[137]
Originally by: dan drorgar
Edited by: dan drorgar on 26/09/2006 12:06:40
Originally by: KnifeyMcShanker
Edited by: KnifeyMcShanker on 26/09/2006 06:31:06
[yada yada] From now on, we will be supporting YouWhat Alliance and their cause.
I hate to see old friends set to red, but it had to be done.
I've expected you so-called "friends" to do this all along. RISE has always had a big weakness, it allowed far too many leeches like NAS, ARHO and YW in its space, leaving it vulnerable to backstabbing of this kind.
We never planned to do this, CHON were the first to set us to -10 and deny us access to the refinery. We thought that the mails from the CEO of CHON spoke for the alliance, so we did the only logical thing.
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Nyack
GREY COUNCIL
R i s e
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Posted - 2006.09.26 14:25:00 -
[138]
Edited by: Nyack on 26/09/2006 14:28:38
to stop the speculations abit about nas.
nas we set to positive when rise moved into CR aswell as any other entity that were living in in CR. such as youwhat..
youwhat abused their docking rights to prepare assault on us with repeated claim they were to assist us in defense in CR. they had full mining, ratting, refine, docking etc. they abused that by filling up their wallets and gathering intel. any claim that YW didnt use it to stage assault is obviously false, cause they knew we would block docking rights as soon as tehy started to invade. so no chivalry there.
NAS were not set -10 by RISE, they were however not allowed to dock. which is truly just a natural action any alliance would take under attack. if you truly wanted to stay neutral u could just have waited abit longer until the dust had settled and your docking rights would have been returned to you..
u taking YW side in the conflict proves that removing your docking rights were infact the correct action.
removing docking rights for corps outside alliance during war time is obvious action for any alliance..
so plz stop claiming we treated you badly..
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Nahual
Gallente
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.09.26 14:28:00 -
[139]
Paranoid nyack?
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FateCorp
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Nyack
GREY COUNCIL
R i s e
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Posted - 2006.09.26 14:30:00 -
[140]
got to stop voices in head.. fast i need my tinfoil hat back.. boldyn give it back now!
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NATMav
F.R.E.E. Explorer
EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2006.09.26 15:22:00 -
[141]
Just an observation about the NAS docking rights, IMO, if done without warning, could easily be interpreted as a hostile act, given that the corp shut out could have billions in assets stashed in your station.
It's like being evicted from your apartment and being told you can't get in to move your stuff out...not very pleasant for the person being ousted.
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zombu2
New Age Solutions
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Posted - 2006.09.26 15:26:00 -
[142]
first of all we got set to -10 the same time we got denied access to stations we tried for several days to contact somebody but we got banned when we tried to convo and just recieved no answer to mails you say we stabbed your alliance in the back ....did you guys leave us a choice??? we tried to stay netral and not get involved in this problem but no you guys had to make sh** up to force us to choose too bad it wasn t in your favor and now you try to make us look bad for choosing a side we where forced to choose in my eyes the rise alliance is a bunch of backstabbing ppl this is not ment for some ppl in this alliance there are friends in there and there a ppl that are as corrupt as it can be and those are to find in the leadership of the rise alliance
sorry for my bad english
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eshyx
principle of motion
R i s e
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Posted - 2006.09.26 16:56:00 -
[143]
Edited by: eshyx on 26/09/2006 17:00:46
Originally by: zombu2
Edited by: zombu2 on 26/09/2006 15:27:48
first of all we got set to -10
Sorry, but it isn't true. RISE always had N-A-S +. You've never been "targets" by our side and never been set -10 (till your attack on RISE hauler today even before your postings on forum). N-A-S even had no stading change after your POS'es killed RISE pilots (killmail dated 2006.09.02 16:03). You could always hunt around, mine and moonmine. RISE wasn't asking anything in return and never shot you. The only change during wartime was closing the refinery to the entities friendly to the enemy. You could still use other stations, refine at POS'es, etc. So yes, you had a choice.
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My opinion. Not an alliance representative.
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zombu2
New Age Solutions
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Posted - 2006.09.26 17:25:00 -
[144]
well if we re not at -10 before how come somebody of our corp got pod killed by a rise and we are being ignored since about a week + set on convo ban lists i personally wrote a mail to xinus and got no response (i saw em online )i even tried to contact other rise members some of em where really nice some of em put me on banlist explain that
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Jallen
Sturmgrenadier Inc
R i s e
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Posted - 2006.09.26 17:31:00 -
[145]
Originally by: zombu2
well if we re not at -10 before how come somebody of our corp got pod killed by a rise and we are being ignored since about a week + set on convo ban lists i personally wrote a mail to xinus and got no response (i saw em online )i even tried to contact other rise members some of em where really nice some of em put me on banlist explain that
Xinus isn't Rise. He's YouWhat, more specifically, he's SteelVipers and has been for 2 Years, 3 Months and 2 Days.
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Farjung
Gallente
TAOSP
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.26 17:31:00 -
[146]
Originally by: zombu2
well if we re not at -10 before how come somebody of our corp got pod killed by a rise and we are being ignored since about a week + set on convo ban lists i personally wrote a mail to xinus and got no response (i saw em online )i even tried to contact other rise members some of em where really nice some of em put me on banlist explain that
Well, as Xinus is a member of YouWhat he's probably not the best person to send mail to if you want RISE to be your friends ;o.
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dan drorgar
Minmatar
principle of motion
R i s e
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Posted - 2006.09.26 17:50:00 -
[147]
Originally by: zombu2
well if we re not at -10 before how come somebody of our corp got pod killed by a rise and we are being ignored since about a week + set on convo ban lists i personally wrote a mail to xinus and got no response (i saw em online )i even tried to contact other rise members some of em where really nice some of em put me on banlist explain that
Better check if you got podded by YW and meant to set them to -10 instead.
Not that it matters now. Contact our diplomats when you regret this decision (RISE's diplomats btw.).
not speaking for my alliance.
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Fedaykin Naib
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.09.26 17:58:00 -
[148]
Originally by: Kinsy
Nono, the real question is, if i jump to my Clone in XZH and undock, will i be shot at? Theres a brain twizzler for you.
YouWhat corps let us put them in.
Goonies didnt move mine (hehe)
RISE didn't either (ty)
Now YouWhat have it back.
Every time i look at my jumpclones i see a new station name, its quite funny :P
Dont worry, I'll shoot you kinsy. Been wanting to do it for awhile. Maybe then yall SHUT UP ON VENT during ops!
"Long Live the Fighters!"
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zombu2
New Age Solutions
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Posted - 2006.09.26 18:25:00 -
[149]
whoops not xinus my typo well i ll find out who we tried to talk to when i come back online and yes it was defenetly a rise that killed our guy
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Sovereign533
Caldari
133rd Ghost Wing
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Posted - 2006.09.26 18:31:00 -
[150]
so many things to say... nothing nice... so i'll keep it at this... gj Toxin and YouWhat... :)
Second sig removed, only 1 signature graphic please - Xorus
^_^WOOHOO!!! my Sig finally got nerfed... i'm 1337 now... |
zombu2
New Age Solutions
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Posted - 2006.09.26 18:33:00 -
[151]
well we have a problem anyway now since ASCN deployed their first Titan
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Jallen
Sturmgrenadier Inc
R i s e
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Posted - 2006.09.26 18:46:00 -
[152]
Originally by: zombu2
whoops not xinus my typo well i ll find out who we tried to talk to when i come back online and yes it was defenetly a rise that killed our guy
Could you do me a favor and have the killmail forwarded to Vache? Or myself (I'm not a diplomat btw), so that I can be sure it gets posted? I just checked our boards and I didn't see any New Age Solution kills on there. I'm not saying that I don't doubt your story, I just like having the information where it's supposed to be, and it is entirely possible that our pilots didn't post it for whatever reason.
Thanks.
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Mikron Alexarr
New Age Solutions
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Posted - 2006.09.26 19:45:00 -
[153]
Originally by: Nyack
Edited by: Nyack on 26/09/2006 14:28:38
NAS were not set -10 by RISE, they were however not allowed to dock. which is truly just a natural action any alliance would take under attack. if you truly wanted to stay neutral u could just have waited abit longer until the dust had settled and your docking rights would have been returned to you..
u taking YW side in the conflict proves that removing your docking rights were infact the correct action.
removing docking rights for corps outside alliance during war time is obvious action for any alliance..
so plz stop claiming we treated you badly..
No, we weren't treated badly. We can put up with revoked docking rights even if it really does throw us into a financial chrisis, because we have contracts, obligations, and shareholders to think about.
KnifeyMcShanker received an Eve-mail about us being set to -10 for the attack of an ally of RISE in a lowsec region around Mara that is notorious for PVP. There were no killmails sent. There were no names mentioned. We were simply accused, tried, and denied. About that same time, we were accused by -Y- of supplying RISE with minerals. I'm not going to lie. We did all of our refining at G8A refinery. Of which, RISE gets a percentage. This was not done in malice of anykind. We were simply there trying to make progress. Had -Y- taken the refinery, we would be giving them our percentage. This was not biased. Concerning the note about a POS refinery... it was against the rules setup with our corporation being in CR in the first place. All refining was to be done at G8A. Also, -Y- provided no names, no records, and no proof of any kind.
Our relationship with the corps of -Y- does indeed go back to the days of the G alliance. They origionally gave us the privilage and honor of having a palce in 0.0 to flourish in finance and experience. When both accused us of aiding the other side, we simply had no choice but to take a side, because our financial destruction was to be sure if we had no allies. Our choice of -Y- is based on the origional kindness shown to us so long ago. We would have liked to stay blue with both sides. I still would. This is their conflict. From the looks of things, that is all gone now. The only thing we can do to survive is to show our loyalty to the side that we owe more. We didn't want this whole mess,  despite the UNSOLICITED responces of anyone but a director or anyone else that we've given express permission to speak about this issue. ; it is not something that we wanted to be a part of.
In response to the backstabbing. This is not an issue of backstabbing, revenge, or any other evil or immoral intention. This is all we can do to survive at this point. Our CEO has been MIA for weeks now. For the love of god, we don't even have more than 10 people ONLINE at once, let alone any signifcant number of pilots experienced enough to be in CR. If you want to blame anyone for our current position, please, look no further than the people that have FORCED us into this situation.
I am not a combat character myself. Industrial at best. I have the worst Kill-to-Death ratio on our kill board with zero kills and no points (involved in a kill) to speak of. (but many, many deaths and many, MANY, badger and crane losses) I hopefully won't see anyone on the battlefield, but as always, I wish all sides Good Luck, Good Hunting, and a quick resolution to this horrid mess, so I can get back to mining, wether it be here or in empire.
"Did you just smacktalk my grandma?"
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Nicocat
Caldari
New Age Solutions
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Posted - 2006.09.26 21:06:00 -
[154]
Well spoken post by Mikron. I'm currently on just about constantly when not at work, and I've been in the Cloud Ring Allies chat for a long time. I've spoken extensively with a contact from both sides (nameless unless they want to be named). While discussions were for the most part civil, a number of things could be construed as... threatening. I won't lie, I saw this coming a mile away. Hell, the corp thought *I* was going to be the one to stir up **** and get us all killed (and, 9 times out of 10, I am ). I'm not even sure why CHON kicked us out of the refinery with no warning, gave us rights back, and then booted us AGAIN. But I know that was one of the last straws for an industrial corp trying to hang on to its home. The warning that CHON had us to -10 was only icing on the cake.
Personally, I'm glad we chose this side in the war. I'm looking forward to working with YouWhat, as I enjoyed working with RISE. It gives this poor, combat-starved duelist a chance to boost his CONCORD mailbox ;)
Kanpai, good sirs.
(Oh, and by the by, the smacking my corpmate relayed to me following the nuking of that hauler last night was definetly unprofessional, RISE.)
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Remember, killing a Goon isn't murder. They don't have souls. |
dan drorgar
Minmatar
principle of motion
R i s e
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Posted - 2006.09.26 21:13:00 -
[155]
Originally by: Mikron Alexarr
KnifeyMcShanker received an Eve-mail about us being set to -10 for the attack of an ally of RISE in a lowsec region around Mara that is notorious for PVP. There were no killmails sent. There were no names mentioned. We were simply accused, tried, and denied.
Did you even verify that the sender of that mail was in RISE? Your members seem to get a little confused sometimes. Did you bother to contact any diplomats of RISE to deal with this, who were your friends at the time according to you? You didn't even try to rectify the situation, instead you attacked a RISE hauler before you even posted here. That's not a way to treat a friendly alliance, it's simply backstabbing and it reeks of opportunism.
not speaking for my alliance.
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Nicocat
Caldari
New Age Solutions
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Posted - 2006.09.26 21:30:00 -
[156]
Originally by: dan drorgar
Originally by: zombu2
well if we re not at -10 before how come somebody of our corp got pod killed by a rise and we are being ignored since about a week + set on convo ban lists i personally wrote a mail to xinus and got no response (i saw em online )i even tried to contact other rise members some of em where really nice some of em put me on banlist explain that
Better check if you got podded by YW and meant to set them to -10 instead.
Not that it matters now. Contact our diplomats when you regret this decision (RISE's diplomats btw.).
Ahem... excuse zombu, he's new to CR. One of us did get killed by a YW, on accident, way back when. We were also trying to negotiate docking rights for XZH station to retrieve goods we had stored there. I believe that is what he was referring to.
As for RISE diplomats, I don't know. I think that was Knifey trying to chat with them, maybe coolie...
Sorry for the confusion.
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Remember, killing a Goon isn't murder. They don't have souls. |
KnifeyMcShanker
New Age Solutions
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Posted - 2006.09.26 22:51:00 -
[157]
Originally by: dan drorgar
Originally by: Mikron Alexarr
KnifeyMcShanker received an Eve-mail about us being set to -10 for the attack of an ally of RISE in a lowsec region around Mara that is notorious for PVP. There were no killmails sent. There were no names mentioned. We were simply accused, tried, and denied.
Did you even verify that the sender of that mail was in RISE? Your members seem to get a little confused sometimes. Did you bother to contact any diplomats of RISE to deal with this, who were your friends at the time according to you? You didn't even try to rectify the situation, instead you attacked a RISE hauler before you even posted here. That's not a way to treat a friendly alliance, it's simply backstabbing and it reeks of opportunism.
The mail was sent by Shivaja, CEO of CHON. I can send a copy with permission from him.
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Dhan
Resurrection
R i s e
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Posted - 2006.09.26 23:43:00 -
[158]
I can confirm that until very recently (yesterday I think), we had NAS to +10. They were allowed to mine, npc, and we took several of their members with us on complex runs like we took our own members, and gave them equal share of the profits as we did our own members.
I'm aware that that they had a relationship with YouWhat dating back from before RISE existence. But they betrayed RISE's goodwill. I believe it's because they wanted to be able to dock in the station which was taken from us, since YouWhat denied them access when they took it. And they were impatient and had to do it right away at any expense.
If only you had waited two more days.
But what's done is done. See you on the battlefield.
Dhan
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KnifeyMcShanker
New Age Solutions
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Posted - 2006.09.27 00:21:00 -
[159]
Originally by: Dhan
I can confirm that until very recently (yesterday I think), we had NAS to +10. They were allowed to mine, npc, and we took several of their members with us on complex runs like we took our own members, and gave them equal share of the profits as we did our own members.
I'm aware that that they had a relationship with YouWhat dating back from before RISE existence. But they betrayed RISE's goodwill. I believe it's because they wanted to be able to dock in the station which was taken from us, since YouWhat denied them access when they took it. And they were impatient and had to do it right away at any expense.
If only you had waited two more days.
But what's done is done. See you on the battlefield.
Dhan
First off, thank you for being civil about this, it's appreciated greatly. Second, I am aware that there was a misunderstanding, but the CHON CEO told me personally that we were -10, and immediate action had to be taken (at that time, we were also - to -Y-.) We couldn't be red to everyone, and we were treated badly by CHON prior to the decision, so we chose -Y-. And as you said, what's done is done, I suggest that both parties stop talking about it.
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Nicocat
Caldari
New Age Solutions
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Posted - 2006.09.27 02:32:00 -
[160]
I would also like to add one quick note. Please stop convoing me. I'm not a diplomat. Direct any talks of why we did this to Knifey or Mikron. I'm outta here. *corpchange*
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Remember, killing a Goon isn't murder. They don't have souls. |
dan drorgar
Minmatar
principle of motion
R i s e
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Posted - 2006.10.01 15:25:00 -
[161]
Originally by: Selpy
Originally by: Farrellus Cameron
I thought you Toxin guys didn't like POS warfare? Now you've gotten sucked back into it.
Do you see TOXIN POS's deployed? No
Do you see TOXIN Carrier's? No
Do you see TOXIN Dread's? No
So I'll quote myself from page 4
Originally by: Selpy
Simple answer..
pew pew.....
zatt zatt....
boom boom....
"you got mail"
*\o/*
Would you care to rephrase this now, since you:
- fielded 6 Dreads and 2 Carriers to put an undefended medium (member-owned) moon-mining POS in F7C into reinforced mode
- anchored a small Amarr POS in F7C
Not fighting for territory, yeah right. ;-)
not speaking for my alliance.
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EnglishBob
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.10.01 15:52:00 -
[162]
Whisk, Fetch me my violin.
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dan drorgar
Minmatar
principle of motion
R i s e
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Posted - 2006.10.01 16:25:00 -
[163]
Originally by: EnglishBob
Whisk, Fetch me my violin.
You're so sweet, but I don't really care much about a cheap moon-mining POS that we emptied in time anyway. I'm pointing out that you're contradicting yourselves. It is undisputable now that you are fighting together with -Y- for our territory and that you can forget about your reputation as a PVP corp that doesn't like alliances, territorial wars and POS warfare.
You also used to smack less, but I guess that comes with lower standards.
not speaking for my alliance.
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Caldess
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Posted - 2006.10.01 16:29:00 -
[164]
Originally by: dan drorgar
Originally by: EnglishBob
Whisk, Fetch me my violin.
You're so sweet, but I don't really care much about a cheap moon-mining POS that we emptied in time anyway. I'm pointing out that you're contradicting yourselves. It is undisputable now that you are fighting together with -Y- for our territory and that you can forget about your reputation as a PVP corp that doesn't like alliances, territorial wars and POS warfare.
You also used to smack less, but I guess that comes with lower standards.
Man, you need to cut back on the haterade and just have some fun.
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dan drorgar
Minmatar
principle of motion
R i s e
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Posted - 2006.10.01 16:33:00 -
[165]
Originally by: Caldess
Man, you need to cut back on the haterade and just have some fun.
I am having great fun with you here on EVE-O, thank you ;-)
not speaking for my alliance.
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Ilmonstre
Minmatar
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.10.01 17:19:00 -
[166]
so if we shoot down a POS where RISE people hide in F7C wich is a entrence point so it would be usefull if a hostile POS would be shot down is fighting a POSwar and not killing a reinforced ss so you will either have to keep switching safespots when shivaja is in there with his carrier or just let him get away with it becouse he is protected by a POS.
so i dont really see your arguments being valid
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Randay
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Posted - 2006.10.01 17:23:00 -
[167]
Originally by: dan drorgar
Originally by: Selpy
Originally by: Farrellus Cameron
I thought you Toxin guys didn't like POS warfare? Now you've gotten sucked back into it.
Do you see TOXIN POS's deployed? No
Do you see TOXIN Carrier's? No
Do you see TOXIN Dread's? No
So I'll quote myself from page 4
Originally by: Selpy
Simple answer..
pew pew.....
zatt zatt....
boom boom....
"you got mail"
*\o/*
Would you care to rephrase this now, since you:
- fielded 6 Dreads and 2 Carriers to put an undefended medium (member-owned) moon-mining POS in F7C into reinforced mode
- anchored a small Amarr POS in F7C
Not fighting for territory, yeah right. ;-)
Despite the overwhelming urge to smack you, in the face, with a e-peen hammer, our cap ships were collecting dust and we wanted to clean them, but we couldn't find a decent maid to hire, and english bob refused to do his job, so we figured your pos guns could help shake the dust off. That way we get to shoot things and clean off the dust and never have to lift a single dust buster.
The small pos was put up by me, as a cyno/carrier spot, just in case Rise wanted to bring it. But it seems they have more important things to do, like making forum posts about it.
PS. We can't claim space, you need to be in an alliance I think, but in any case, I, Randay, claim f7c-h0. If you wish to have standings with me and not get shot, you may contact my diplomat, Randay, if you want to join me, you can contact my recruiter, Randay. Thank you.
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Originally by: Reddari
Now just be nice before I start to make life for the BOB devs (yes you have some) harder by exposing their player characters.
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Selpy
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Posted - 2006.10.01 17:27:00 -
[168]
Originally by: dan drorgar
Originally by: Selpy
Originally by: Farrellus Cameron
I thought you Toxin guys didn't like POS warfare? Now you've gotten sucked back into it.
Do you see TOXIN POS's deployed? No
Do you see TOXIN Carrier's? No
Do you see TOXIN Dread's? No
So I'll quote myself from page 4
Originally by: Selpy
Simple answer..
pew pew.....
zatt zatt....
boom boom....
"you got mail"
*\o/*
Would you care to rephrase this now, since you:
- fielded 6 Dreads and 2 Carriers to put an undefended medium (member-owned) moon-mining POS in F7C into reinforced mode
- anchored a small Amarr POS in F7C
Not fighting for territory, yeah right. ;-)
Since you quoted me, I'll reply to this, and quite frankly, if you used your head for more than a hat rack, you'd see 1 simple thing staring you back in the face that show's we are not here for territory.
Do you see an alliance ticker behind our TOXIN tag's? newp, you do not, so there goes your idea that were trying to take your territory since we cannot use the sov side of the game.
Ilmon is 100% correct in what he say's.
"pew pew....zatt zatt....no more pos in f7c, where yah gonna hide at :) "
Look deep into these eyes, they'll be the last thing to see you! |
Soulis
Shinra
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.10.01 18:00:00 -
[169]
Originally by: Selpy
"pew pew....zatt zatt....no more pos in f7c, where yah gonna hide at :) "
OMG i love it
Shinra - The Good Guys
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dan drorgar
Minmatar
principle of motion
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Posted - 2006.10.01 18:03:00 -
[170]
Originally by: Selpy
Since you quoted me, I'll reply to this, and quite frankly, if you used your head for more than a hat rack, you'd see 1 simple thing staring you back in the face that show's we are not here for territory.
a) Quit the dumb smack
b) I know that you are not in alliance; you are fighting for territory nevertheless (see your corpmate's post above; yes, I know he is just trying to be silly as well)
not speaking for my alliance.
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dan drorgar
Minmatar
principle of motion
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Posted - 2006.10.01 18:07:00 -
[171]
Originally by: Randay
The small pos was put up by me, as a cyno/carrier spot, just in case Rise wanted to bring it. But it seems they have more important things to do, like making forum posts about it.
We generally have more important things to do, like fighting for our territory against an inferior backstabber who would be dust without you guys coming to the rescue every time.
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if you want to join me, you can contact my recruiter, Randay. Thank you.
No chance, I'd only join corps that state their intentions in a straightforward, serious way and don't have to smack around in this clownish matter.
not speaking for my alliance.
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dan drorgar
Minmatar
principle of motion
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Posted - 2006.10.01 18:10:00 -
[172]
Edited by: dan drorgar on 01/10/2006 18:15:41
Originally by: Ilmonstre
so if we shoot down a POS where RISE people hide in F7C wich is a entrence point so it would be usefull if a hostile POS would be shot down is fighting a POSwar and not killing a reinforced ss so you will either have to keep switching safespots when shivaja is in there with his carrier or just let him get away with it becouse he is protected by a POS.
*trying to understand this post without punctuation*
F7C is an entrance point to what exactly? Territory you are supposedly not fighting for?
If we needed a POS to hide at in F7C we'd probably just put up a DS one I guess.
not speaking for my alliance.
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Nez Perces
Amarr
Black Spot.
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Posted - 2006.10.01 18:17:00 -
[173]
Edited by: Nez Perces on 01/10/2006 18:17:54
Originally by: dan drorgar
... stuff...
I notice in your signature it says...
"not speaking for my alliance"
.. well thats fine, but, you are talking about things that are only related to your alliance, very specific things as to where you would put or not put up POS for logistical purposes.
If you are not speaking for your alliance, then who are you speaking for? You are talking about issues that require specific group activities by your alliance.
Either you should remove your signature, or you should talk about things that can be interpreted as affecting you on a personal level.
.. or you can keep your signature and effectively contradict yourself, everytime you post.
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Lightof God
Caldari
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
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Posted - 2006.10.01 18:40:00 -
[174]
/me lubs interesting topics.
So lets see here. Lots of talking and pew pewing. Fun Fun it is.
But in the words of so many players when two forces of large size clash in anyplace (esp cloud ring that node is wierd I hate it) the only winner is the eve server because it gets to sleep for awhile :)
Now that we have the mordor vs shire war heating up I am almost glad that I am out of the game for a few months because the servers are just gonna be so fun to play on :)
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Marko Debreault
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.10.01 18:43:00 -
[175]
Welcome to being primary, Dan.
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dan drorgar
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.10.01 18:45:00 -
[176]
Originally by: Marko Debreault
Welcome to being primary, Dan.
Welcome to me not caring Marko.
not speaking for my alliance.
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dan drorgar
Minmatar
principle of motion
R i s e
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Posted - 2006.10.01 18:46:00 -
[177]
Originally by: Nez Perces
...stuff..
If you need me to explain to you the difference between "speaking for my alliance" and "speaking about my alliance", then I suggest English classes.
not speaking for my alliance.
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Nez Perces
Amarr
Black Spot.
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Posted - 2006.10.01 18:58:00 -
[178]
Originally by: dan drorgar
If you need me to explain to you the difference between "speaking for my alliance" and "speaking about my alliance", then I suggest English classes.
aha ... semantics...
so.. you speak about your alliance (at length), but do not represent them in anyway, yet you proudly display your alliance tags under your avatar on the forums.
You know what that sounds like don't you? .. a get out clause, so you can say whatever pleases you with immunity and no comeback on your beloved alliance.
Would you still type the things you type if you removed your signature.. or does your bravado not extend to such a gesture?
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Selpy
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.10.01 18:58:00 -
[179]
Originally by: dan drorgar
a) Quit the dumb smack
b) I know that you are not in alliance; you are fighting for territory nevertheless (see your corpmate's post above; yes, I know he is just trying to be silly as well)
that wasn't smack...I could let loose the smackbeast, but I won't go there :)
Let me paint a picture for you....3 brute's walk into your house, they kick your teeth in, then go around trashing your house...are they there to take your house and claim it as thier own? no, they are there to kick your teeth in and smash your stuff, plain and simple. That's what were doing, that's what we've been doing ...and that's what we'll continue to do.
Look deep into these eyes, they'll be the last thing to see you! |
EnglishBob
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.10.01 19:10:00 -
[180]
Originally by: Nez Perces
so you can say whatever pleases you with immunity and no comeback on your beloved alliance.
I find fault with this statement.
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Boldyn
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.10.01 19:11:00 -
[181]
After checking up the kid Dan, The amount of yellow lamemods in his lowslots explains his general behaviour, or lack there of.
Do you actually have a purpose with your posts or does your fingers just go nuts when you don't post?
Speaking for my alliance btw...
- "Death smiles at us all, all a man can do is smile back" |
Nez Perces
Amarr
Black Spot.
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Posted - 2006.10.01 19:15:00 -
[182]
Originally by: EnglishBob
I find fault with this statement.
hehe ... I would expect nothing less
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dan drorgar
Minmatar
principle of motion
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Posted - 2006.10.01 19:15:00 -
[183]
Originally by: Selpy
Let me paint a picture for you....3 brute's walk into your house, they kick your teeth in, then go around trashing your house...are they there to take your house and claim it as thier own? no, they are there to kick your teeth in and smash your stuff, plain and simple. That's what were doing, that's what we've been doing ...and that's what we'll continue to do.
I love broken analogies. Try to complete it with the brutes defending someone else's assets, letting him into my house while they are sitting there and of course never harming him. Such sweet, caring brutes.
But it's all very pointless and silly really.
not speaking for my alliance.
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dan drorgar
Minmatar
principle of motion
R i s e
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Posted - 2006.10.01 19:19:00 -
[184]
Originally by: Boldyn
After checking up the kid Dan, The amount of yellow lamemods in his lowslots explains his general behaviour, or lack there of.
Do you actually have a purpose with your posts or does your fingers just go nuts when you don't post?
Speaking for my alliance btw...
More lame smack and even lies from Outbreak. I'm really disappointed, in all honesty. You used to be a reputable and decent PVP corp, what the hell happend?
not speaking for my alliance.
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Caldess
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.10.01 19:22:00 -
[185]
Originally by: dan drorgar
Originally by: Boldyn
After checking up the kid Dan, The amount of yellow lamemods in his lowslots explains his general behaviour, or lack there of.
Do you actually have a purpose with your posts or does your fingers just go nuts when you don't post?
Speaking for my alliance btw...
More lame smack and even lies from Outbreak. I'm really disappointed, in all honesty. You used to be a reputable and decent PVP corp, what the hell happend?
We ****ed in your cornflakes and you are bitter about it.
That's what it looks like from here.
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dan drorgar
Minmatar
principle of motion
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Posted - 2006.10.01 19:24:00 -
[186]
Originally by: Nez Perces
so.. you speak about your alliance (at length), but do not represent them in anyway, yet you proudly display your alliance tags under your avatar on the forums.
Yes, I am voicing my personal opinion and see no reason to hide my alliance tag. If someone in charge orders me to shut up, I probably will.
Quote:
You know what that sounds like don't you? .. a get out clause, so you can say whatever pleases you with immunity and no comeback on your beloved alliance.
Would you still type the things you type if you removed your signature.. or does your bravado not extend to such a gesture?
First, my alliance doesn't own me and my value to it is my presence on the battlefield (among other things). If I harmed its reputation like all the Outbreak smackers here are doing to their corp, I would probably get kicked and seek other challenges.
How would it be more brave to remove the alliance tag? Because I would have to argue with ISD then? ;-)
not speaking for my alliance.
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dan drorgar
Minmatar
principle of motion
R i s e
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Posted - 2006.10.01 19:26:00 -
[187]
Originally by: Caldess
We ****ed in your cornflakes and you are bitter about it.
That's what it looks like from here.
I'm so impressed with you guys. You had us all fooled, but your lame "outbreak" here on eve-o was revealing...
If you are going to throw more dirt, try to back it up, perhaps you can fool some more people that there is any substance to your smacking.
not speaking for my alliance.
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SwindonBadger
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.10.01 19:28:00 -
[188]
dan ur not innerdrives alt r u?
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Boldyn
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.10.01 19:28:00 -
[189]
Originally by: dan drorgar
Originally by: Boldyn
After checking up the kid Dan, The amount of yellow lamemods in his lowslots explains his general behaviour, or lack there of.
Do you actually have a purpose with your posts or does your fingers just go nuts when you don't post?
Speaking for my alliance btw...
More lame smack and even lies from Outbreak. I'm really disappointed, in all honesty. You used to be a reputable and decent PVP corp, what the hell happend?
Dude, lemme break it down for you.
1. Don't ever call me a liar. The only thing I stated was regarding yellow lamemods in lowslots. Since I see them there, that wasnt a lie. It's nothing to be embarassed about, but don't call me a liar.
2. What was your point in all this, honestly? To show EVE you saw 8 Toxin Capships shooting a POS? I mean is there really anything even remotly strange with a corp shooting a POS that belongs to your campaign target?
What's with the obsessive need to try and paint us as a none-PvP corporation? Because we shoot a pos? WHat was that in your book, NPCing?
We don't want to claim F7C, we don't want your freaking region, much like we will never want any region. Besides, we do as we please in OR/CR, so wtf does it matter?
Your urge to find something bad to say about us is pretty funny, with a twist of sad.
PS. IF you are right, and we are not a PvP corp...then..what the hell will happen to you guys when a PvPcorp comes along to fight you?
- "Death smiles at us all, all a man can do is smile back" |
Shadar Ishaan
Caldari
Gang of Four
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Posted - 2006.10.01 19:29:00 -
[190]
Originally by: dan drorgar
Yes, I am voicing my personal opinion and see no reason to hide my alliance tag. If someone in charge orders me to shut up, I probably will.
Let's hope that happens soon. You are making yourself look foolish with all this whining about 0utbreak.
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Randay
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.10.01 19:29:00 -
[191]
Originally by: Nez Perces
Originally by: EnglishBob
I find fault with this statement.
hehe ... I would expect nothing less
We wardec entire alliances when a single pilot logs on us :P
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Originally by: Reddari
Now just be nice before I start to make life for the BOB devs (yes you have some) harder by exposing their player characters.
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ScoRpS
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.10.01 19:43:00 -
[192]
Originally by: dan drorgar
try to back it up
that made me laugh
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dan drorgar
Minmatar
principle of motion
R i s e
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Posted - 2006.10.01 19:55:00 -
[193]
Originally by: Boldyn
1. Don't ever call me a liar. The only thing I stated was regarding yellow lamemods in lowslots. Since I see them there, that wasnt a lie. It's nothing to be embarassed about, but don't call me a liar.
In the way you wrote it, it was a lie. The amount is 1 and you only ever saw 1 single killmail (that was posted twice) with me using a WCS on a Tempest, which I had to bring on my own to a nearby fight after losing 1 with hostile interceptors expected on the way.
Quote:
What's with the obsessive need to try and paint us as a none-PvP corporation? Because we shoot a pos? WHat was that in your book, NPCing?
You are painting yourselves as a corp that has resorted to dumb mud-throwing on eve-o while contradicting itself continuously, most likely because you're hired guns and don't want to admit it.
Quote:
Your urge to find something bad to say about us is pretty funny, with a twist of sad.
It's funny that you are writing this after deliberately searching for old killmails on griefwatch so you could smack me about having used WCS in the past.
Quote:
PS. IF you are right, and we are not a PvP corp...then..what the hell will happen to you guys when a PvPcorp comes along to fight you?
We will win if we have the numbers, we will lose if they have them. Simple as that. We will not posture here and we will not resort to immature mud-throwing and smacking here.
not speaking for my alliance.
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Boldyn
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.10.01 20:03:00 -
[194]
Originally by: dan drorgar
Originally by: Boldyn
1. Don't ever call me a liar. The only thing I stated was regarding yellow lamemods in lowslots. Since I see them there, that wasnt a lie. It's nothing to be embarassed about, but don't call me a liar.
In the way you wrote it, it was a lie. The amount is 1 and you only ever saw 1 single killmail (that was posted twice) with me using a WCS on a Tempest, which I had to bring on my own to a nearby fight after losing 1 with hostile interceptors expected on the way.
Quote:
What's with the obsessive need to try and paint us as a none-PvP corporation? Because we shoot a pos? WHat was that in your book, NPCing?
You are painting yourselves as a corp that has resorted to dumb mud-throwing on eve-o while contradicting itself continuously, most likely because you're hired guns and don't want to admit it.
Quote:
Your urge to find something bad to say about us is pretty funny, with a twist of sad.
It's funny that you are writing this after deliberately searching for old killmails on griefwatch so you could smack me about having used WCS in the past.
Quote:
PS. IF you are right, and we are not a PvP corp...then..what the hell will happen to you guys when a PvPcorp comes along to fight you?
We will win if we have the numbers, we will lose if they have them. Simple as that. We will not posture here and we will not resort to immature mud-throwing and smacking here.
Doesn't make me liar. But excuses are always nice.
You however, are bad at guessing. Notice how I avoided calling you a liar. So we are paid then? By who? We attacked Rise long before our little hugtime with -Y- started, if you were aiming at them. And alot fo our corporation are ex mercs that got tired of the merc business, so..well I will let you figure that one out for yourself.
We don't paint any picture at all. You brought the post with us attacking a POS in F7C, which you btw have still not answered wtf your point was, besides pointless. Besides I would be a bit carefull calling people out as smackstarters, but that's your problem.
And no, you misstyped, think you ment to say you will lose when you don't have the numbers and lose when you do have the numbers. Why? Because you just showed that to you, PvP is about who has more ships and that's the kind of thinking that usually comes from people I decide to not waste more time on.
Have a good day o7
- "Death smiles at us all, all a man can do is smile back" |
Shadar Ishaan
Caldari
Gang of Four
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Posted - 2006.10.01 20:03:00 -
[195]
Originally by: dan drorgar
You are painting yourselves as a corp that has resorted to dumb mud-throwing
They'll have to try a lot harder if they want to take that title from you.
Quote:
We will not posture here and we will not resort to immature mud-throwing and smacking here.
Too late.
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SwindonBadger
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Posted - 2006.10.01 20:05:00 -
[196]
If were getting paid to do this Im gonna have to ask the boss for a raise, anyone else want to take my place rowing while I go up to the catins table step over the last fools corpse and ask/?
when people say random bollax we tend to hold u to it,. u are talking for your alliance dan, they will feel it, the results of your words
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Nez Perces
Amarr
Black Spot.
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Posted - 2006.10.01 20:06:00 -
[197]
.. yet you failed to answer the following question, Dan....
Originally by: Nez Perces
Would you still type the things you type if you removed your signature.. or does your bravado not extend to such a gesture?
to me and I'm sure many others, you are abdicating responsability for your posts by hiding behind the 5 words in your signature...
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dan drorgar
Minmatar
principle of motion
R i s e
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Posted - 2006.10.01 20:16:00 -
[198]
Originally by: Nez Perces
.. yet you failed to answer the following question, Dan....
Originally by: Nez Perces
Would you still type the things you type if you removed your signature.. or does your bravado not extend to such a gesture?
I would not type them unless I wanted people for some reason to think that I am speaking for my alliance. It has nothing to do with bravery.
Quote:
to me and I'm sure many others, you are abdicating responsability for your posts by hiding behind the 5 words in your signature...
It is not up to me to decide what effects my posts will have on other people. I am only making it 100% clear that my posts reflect my personal opinion and not the alliance's standpoint.
not speaking for my alliance.
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Selpy
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.10.01 20:16:00 -
[199]
think we found the next innerdrive....RUN YOU FEWL! FLEEEEE while you still can
Look deep into these eyes, they'll be the last thing to see you! |
dan drorgar
Minmatar
principle of motion
R i s e
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Posted - 2006.10.01 20:26:00 -
[200]
Originally by: SwindonBadger
when people say random bollax we tend to hold u to it,. u are talking for your alliance dan, they will feel it, the results of your words
So tell me, are you trying to extort my alliance to kick me or to make me shut up, or do you just need another reason to justify siding with -Y- while everyone is seeing you involved in their territorial war?
I made it clear that I voiced my personal opinion. I cannot be held responsible for whatever your hurt egos make you do, but of course I will do what my alliance asks me to while I am a member. So don't be surprised if I stop posting. ;-)
not speaking for my alliance.
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Castor IV
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Posted - 2006.10.01 20:34:00 -
[201]
Originally by: dan drorgar
So tell me, are you trying to extort my alliance to kick me or to make me shut up, or do you just need another reason to justify siding with -Y- while everyone is seeing you involved in their territorial war?
I made it clear that I voiced my personal opinion. I cannot be held responsible for whatever your hurt egos make you do, but of course I will do what my alliance asks me to while I am a member. So don't be surprised if I stop posting. ;-)
No Dan just as you are telling us your "personal" opinion we are telling you how we see the thing.
I remember once a guy that for a 500 million ransom made his alliance to pay 5 billion in lost ships only.
Its just the way we operate.
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Fast Track
Resurrection
R i s e
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Posted - 2006.10.01 20:39:00 -
[202]
IMO, just bring it... Enough of the talk. Put up or shut up.
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SwindonBadger
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.10.01 21:00:00 -
[203]
no dan Im just trying to help u, u seem to be pritty fired up to start making accusasion that we get paid to do this, be under no illusions its people like u with a big mouth that get reel squeeky who are fueling the current rise killing, if u open ur mouth like others did we do listen and we do back up our word.
if it got u reel ****ed off u lost a pos to outbreak "big" ships come stop them, and saying "bring it" instead, beacuse its u who should be bringing it, but u dont like to sneek away from ur safty net to defend this space u claim. ....
innerdirve was bit worse I admit, to go and smack the captin to his face is stupid, I was joking earlier about asking him for a raise everyone knows u get to walk the plank for such creative idears.
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Fast Track
Resurrection
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Posted - 2006.10.01 21:26:00 -
[204]
Hmm, you need glasses? I'm not dan. As for your lame smacktard posts, bring it or STFU.
I don't see a Outbreak ship to shoot, so bring them here since you supposedly do as you wish in CR and OR. We aren't going anyplace, so no need to hide in F7C and empire. Just get a gang together and come visit. We'll get the door for you.:)
Oh, I sound like a Outbreak post, oops.
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SwindonBadger
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.10.01 21:38:00 -
[205]
in genral about the "bring it" phrase/ u (Fast Track)are not the only member to say this. u remeber the last guy yee?
I see roughly 1 bill a day damge done to u guys till u started loggin memebrs off as we move around your space, since then we can manage about 500 mil a day average. The only place u seem to be focusing on in xzh, we try get u to defend f7c but u did nothing but talk....
now u cant have a carrier at a poss there, now if u brave carrier pilots log on they have some danger, that makes me smile
did u bring it to defend it.. no dan starts using the squeeky stuff
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Ilmonstre
Minmatar
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.10.01 21:44:00 -
[206]
Originally by: Fast Track
Hmm, you need glasses? I'm not dan. As for your lame smacktard posts, bring it or STFU.
I don't see a Outbreak ship to shoot, so bring them here since you supposedly do as you wish in CR and OR. We aren't going anyplace, so no need to hide in F7C and empire. Just get a gang together and come visit. We'll get the door for you.:)
Oh, I sound like a Outbreak post, oops.
i find it funny that when someone sayz something you do not agree with so you immediatly call it smack just becouse it is a different oppinion then the one you have. that just makes me laugh or should i cry now
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Fast Track
Resurrection
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Posted - 2006.10.01 21:46:00 -
[207]
Honestly, I do mean bring it. No need to talk about it here, just bring it. No forum posturing, whining, wanting...etc. You say you want the fight, well bring it.
You are the attackers that don't want to hold your own space or claim space. So, we await you. And good fights to all.
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Nyack
GREY COUNCIL
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Posted - 2006.10.01 21:46:00 -
[208]
not to be rude or anything like that.. nice to read something that is actually pretty much a convo not thread material..
i think YW should get more respect then this to let a good thread derailed..
both boldyn and dan cant u just get in a chat channel or a ts or 1vs1 and slugg it out instead?
why not start a new thread about the issue instead?
as i see it RISE claims that toxins are contridicting them selfs since they claim they are anti alliance corp and in it for the phew phew.
and dan is basicly dragging the whole alliance down by "not speaking for his alliance"
i looked at the toxin killboard prior to yw declaring war on rise. toxin had the same ratio and isk damage on YW as they had on rise. so naturally to have as much phew phew as possible shouldnt it mean you should be shooting at both.. it would maximize your targets for sure?
all entities involved in the fight knows toxins tip the scale here. your claim to not be interested in politics and alliance is somewhat (no pun intended) condridicting... noo?
i think you dont miss the internal affairs and the boredom and pos warfare about alliance life but still like and miss the drama.. since being a pvp corp without some eve-o drama is rather boring..
but as i said mayeb this thread isnt the place to discuss it in.. lol now i have contradicted my self ... lol
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Boldyn
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Posted - 2006.10.01 21:47:00 -
[209]
Originally by: Fast Track
Hmm, you need glasses? I'm not dan. As for your lame smacktard posts, bring it or STFU.
I don't see a Outbreak ship to shoot, so bring them here since you supposedly do as you wish in CR and OR. We aren't going anyplace, so no need to hide in F7C and empire. Just get a gang together and come visit. We'll get the door for you.:)
Oh, I sound like a Outbreak post, oops.
Heh, well if you can't beat them ingame, I guess telling them to bring it makes it feel like you do ey?
You can try and make us like like whatever you feel like cookie. It's pretty retarded to go on with the whole "yada yada you talk smack" BS, since your alliance has your fair number of moronic people that rant day in and day out with a neverending stream of profanity. We answer what we please.
And why do you keep at the Bring it? We have brought it honey, over and over and over untill no one was willing to take on the bringing. It's just like Innerdrive with his "Come fight us at home!" and when we did, he bailed.
You have your place where you feel you can infact, Bring it. We know where you are, and we pay you frequesnt visits. When and if we do though, is not of your concern, but much like the past month or so has shown, you will notice it.
Now be a good grunt and sit back down.
- "Death smiles at us all, all a man can do is smile back" |
Boldyn
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.10.01 21:50:00 -
[210]
I would take it to a 1 on 1 convo, but the last few times I tried convoing a Rise member who smacked, the convo gets rejected, so I stopped trying
- "Death smiles at us all, all a man can do is smile back" |
Randay
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.10.01 21:57:00 -
[211]
Originally by: Fast Track
Honestly, I do mean bring it. No need to talk about it here, just bring it. No forum posturing, whining, wanting...etc. You say you want the fight, well bring it.
You are the attackers that don't want to hold your own space or claim space. So, we await you. And good fights to all.
1. toxin blows up a rise pos in f7c
2. rise whines about it in an old thread
3. toxin smacks rise
4. rise smacks toxin
5. rise says "bring it"
6. randay's irony-ometer explodes
7. end of thread
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Originally by: Reddari
Now just be nice before I start to make life for the BOB devs (yes you have some) harder by exposing their player characters.
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Fast Track
Resurrection
R i s e
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Posted - 2006.10.01 22:00:00 -
[212]
convo me.. Calling that bluff right now. And nice smack, Boldyn. :) Yeah, I know only the ones who disagree with you are smacking.
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Boldyn
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.10.01 22:06:00 -
[213]
Originally by: Fast Track
convo me.. Calling that bluff right now. And nice smack, Boldyn. :) Yeah, I know only the ones who disagree with you are smacking.
What? I don't want to convo you. Your alliance m8 ment regarding Dan-the man. I don't consider you smacking at all, you just keep spamming bring it when we have done nothing else for over a month.
How do you know that I consider the ones who don't agree with me to be smacking. Do you know me? Cuss I can't recall knowing you. I could care less who agrees with me or not, I am not on a campaign to save the rainforrest.
- "Death smiles at us all, all a man can do is smile back" |
Nez Perces
Amarr
Black Spot.
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Posted - 2006.10.01 22:10:00 -
[214]
Edited by: Nez Perces on 01/10/2006 22:10:01
Originally by: Nyack
all entities involved in the fight knows toxins tip the scale here. your claim to not be interested in politics and alliance is somewhat (no pun intended) condridicting... noo?
i think you don't miss the internal affairs and the boredom and pos warfare about alliance life but still like and miss the drama.. since being a pvp corp without some eve-o drama is rather boring..
.. you seem like a sensible fellow Nyack. I was in Battle Angels shortly, that is the merc corp that then became Outbreak.
From what I can gather, Outbreak have zero interest in claiming territory, if they did the first thing they would need to do is create an alliance.
Now... just because an entity does not want to claim territory does not mean that it is not interested in politics or power mongering.
The truth is that as soon as a pod pilot jumps into a ship and heads into 0.0 he is actively taking part in the politcal arena, wether directly or indirectly. It is unavoidable.
Outbreak have to shoot somebody, it is the reason for their existance. They have hooked up with YouWhat to fight RISE, for any number of reasons which are not really that important. They may even break out capitals to assist YouWhat to achieve things or even for their own amusement.... BUT that does not mean that they are looking to claim territory.
To claim territory you need to be in an alliance, its that simple.
There is no contradiction in Outbreak's stated ethos... the only contradiction in this thread is Dan spouting his mouth of whilst hiding behind the 5 words that he thinks will grant his alliance immunity from his posts.
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Liora Vahan
Gallente
Axe Gang
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Posted - 2006.10.01 22:18:00 -
[215]
Originally by: dan drorgar
Stuff
See, this crap is why we decided to side with YouWhat.
It may also have something to do with their invasion has kept Outbreak busy, which makes the pipe through f7c safer.
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Fast Track
Resurrection
R i s e
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Posted - 2006.10.01 23:54:00 -
[216]
Originally by: Boldyn
I would take it to a 1 on 1 convo, but the last few times I tried convoing a Rise member who smacked, the convo gets rejected, so I stopped trying
well, you said it and now back out of it... I don't know you and could care less who you are, but don't try to come off as being someone I would give a second look to.
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Boldyn
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.10.02 00:03:00 -
[217]
RIGHT! You either blind or stupid, or a mix of both. <-- That's smack btw.
Nyack told ME, that myself and DAN should start a convo instead of talking here. I then said I have tried convoes before and people have rejected them...now if you would be so kind as to tell me...
WHAT does that have to do with you, at all??? I mean seriously who are you anyway? Were you at all apart of that crossposting?
- "Death smiles at us all, all a man can do is smile back" |
Fast Track
Resurrection
R i s e
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Posted - 2006.10.02 00:53:00 -
[218]
Actually, I'm me and could care less who you are. But, you fail to answer from the posts earlier and your attempt at smack is laughable.
Get a grip and have some fun. that's easy to do
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JackCo
WAFFLES Inc.
R i s e
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Posted - 2006.10.02 01:58:00 -
[219]
Dan has gone a bit over the edge here. I can't apologize on behave of him or RISE - as am not the man in charge/burdened with the task of doing so - but i think this thread is really starting to have a bad taste.
In order to counter/debate a few not so nice things said about RISE i do feel i'd like to mention a few things. This is mainly because i do feel that RISE earns a lil more credit then we get (by some, not all) here.
Defending space round the clock is harder then invading space at times you prefer. We lost a decent amount of fights to outbreak, but we also learned from them and managed to win a few fights from outbreak. Saddling up to fight an organized group of vets - who play ball very well - when they decided to make another raid is something we try to do as often as we can. I hope i speak truth when i say that we will continue to improve on both quality of fights and numbers involved in those fight. You have been in the alliance life and know the ropes. You have seen the struggle for survival and i bet if u guys dig deep in those memories back in the days u find that lil bit of respect an allie enemie deserves to have. I have and will continue to have the highest level of respect for my enemies and i can only hope they have the same for me.
Btw i know some have been very respectfull allround and i recon me post is a bit aimed at those who haven't been. Having this said i think i can say safely i hope RISE will also show that respect likewise.
Jack
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Nicocat
Caldari
New Age Solutions
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Posted - 2006.10.02 02:19:00 -
[220]
So, about the progress of the war. How's it going?
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Boldyn
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.10.02 03:14:00 -
[221]
Nice post JackCo. I apologise for any harsh words. I mailed Fast Track ingame and will settle any differences there.
Regards
- "Death smiles at us all, all a man can do is smile back" |
SwindonBadger
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.10.02 03:25:00 -
[222]
nice poast jack
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Shalimar Fox
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.10.02 04:38:00 -
[223]
Status report of the war as I see it:
Rise presece and will to fight in 4c and d5 was great when we moved in.
But after a while that will faided and after 2 week thirs wasn't much more then a few gank's to get out of them. So we moved into F7C/Syndicate cos we saw a few of u guy's around. We even wardeced u but got even less fights
And we blew ur poses up cos we where bored of the presece u showed to fight us and the fact that we have not used our dreads in ages and needed some practice. And It was not the first pos that we blew up and I fear it will not be the last one.
But I guess u where busy playing sim city in xzh. If that's the case then I hope it will become better when that situation is resolved in one way or the other.
In regards to Dan it's people like Innerdrive and u that make me go mad and commit even more effort into the whole thing. But like the boss said u are primary from now on so I am ok with that.
As for me not speaking for my corp. I am not but But I am a member of the corp so my actions reflect on the group I am a part off.
Anyway keep the smack down guy's and the fights trilling.
Regard's
Shalimar Fox
Outbreak
Originally by: "Bor'rak"
It amazes me how some people can put two and two together and come up with five! And then post it |
Nicocat
Caldari
New Age Solutions
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Posted - 2006.10.02 05:57:00 -
[224]
Originally by: Keflin Geard
Where has SigmaPi gone?
He was in G8A in a delicious freighter a minute ago...
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Mindlles
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.10.02 06:30:00 -
[225]
Dan and fast stay online and fight when we approch insteed of sitt here and smack.
Have a good day, and a nice post jackco! =)
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whisk
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.10.02 07:22:00 -
[226]
You know what we found out on friday night? We found out that if we sold all our hacs, we had enough isk to build an outpost. So we decided f7c looked like a good location, so removed your pos. We've just made an alliance named DESCEND and now have sov over F7C, expect to see a gallante outpost there after dt today. Over the comming weeks we are hoping to recruit every carebear corp who are willing to join DESCEND in order to make us look big when really we'll just let them mine all day long in F7C. I hope that answers all of your questions dan.
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Kujin
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.10.02 07:42:00 -
[227]
drama
oh i love it ...
Let me try to summarize Outbreak :
F1 <-> F8 , lotsa dmg, lotsa fun.
The End
Our intensions are none of your biz, sure if it makes you happy to create conspiracy theories and stuff, we appreciate it, makes these forums a lot more interesting to read.
I think we have spread out our corp philosophy on these boards, in so many ways, that even the most retarded person should realize and understand what weŚre all about...
So pls stop trying to interpret anything concerning the words "alliance", "territory" and "souverenity" (spelling) into outbreak .
We will search our advantage by napping with certain entities and try to have the most fun possible...
...nerf wcs...
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Nez Perces
Amarr
Black Spot.
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Posted - 2006.10.02 07:51:00 -
[228]
Originally by: whisk
You know what we found out on friday night? We found out that if we sold all our hacs, we had enough isk to build an outpost.
.. heh you must have a whole load of hacs then..
just think what you could get if you sold all your mining barges ...
.. actually thats not a good idea.... boldyn wouldn't having anything to do then... and he'd get cranky
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whisk
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.10.02 07:56:00 -
[229]
Originally by: Kujin
drama
pew pew
check our forums kujin, read the post about us becoming an alliance, no more pew pew for you
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Kujin
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.10.02 07:59:00 -
[230]
Originally by: whisk
Originally by: Kujin
drama
pew pew
check our forums kujin, read the post about us becoming an alliance, no more pew pew for you
 , does that mean i have to mine now ?
...nerf wcs...
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Castor IV
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.10.02 08:27:00 -
[231]
Originally by: JackCo
Edited by: JackCo on 02/10/2006 02:07:17
Dan has gone a bit over the edge here. I can't apologize on behave of him or RISE - as am not the man in charge/burdened with the task of doing so - but i think this thread is really starting to have a bad taste.
In order to counter/debate a few not so nice things said about RISE i do feel i'd like to mention a few things. This is mainly because i do feel that RISE earns a lil more credit then we get (by some, not all) here.
Defending space round the clock is harder then invading space at times you prefer. We lost a decent amount of fights to outbreak, but we also learned from them and managed to win a few fights from outbreak. Saddling up to fight an organized group of vets - who play ball very well - when they decided to make another raid is something we try to do as often as we can. I hope i speak truth when i say that we will continue to improve on both quality of fights and numbers involved in those fight. You have been in the alliance life and know the ropes. You have seen the struggle for survival and i am allmost certain if u guys dig deep in those memories from "back in the days" maybe u could (re)find that lil bit of respect an allie enemie deserves to have. I have and will continue to have the highest level of respect for my enemies and i can only hope they have the same for me.
Btw i know some have been very respectfull allround and i recon me post is a bit aimed at those who haven't been. Having this said i think i can say safely i hope RISE will also show that respect likewise.
Jack
Nice post JackCo, We are looking forward to "play ball" with you guys.
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superscarface
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.10.02 09:24:00 -
[232]
/me toasts RISE....... to good fights, old and new
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Boldyn
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.10.02 11:06:00 -
[233]
Originally by: Nez Perces
Originally by: whisk
You know what we found out on friday night? We found out that if we sold all our hacs, we had enough isk to build an outpost.
.. heh you must have a whole load of hacs then..
just think what you could get if you sold all your mining barges ...
.. actually thats not a good idea.... boldyn wouldn't having anything to do then... and he'd get cranky
oh funny, me being cranky cuss we have no barges left. Like I would care? I am not like that...take all the barges u want and just repro them, see if I care!!!
*Boldyn sneaks away and pets his exhumers.....-"There there my kindred....."
- "Death smiles at us all, all a man can do is smile back" |
Sheppard
Gallente
Cheese Monkey's
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Posted - 2006.10.02 11:34:00 -
[234]
Edited by: Sheppard on 02/10/2006 11:35:18
Outbreak are doing the People of Eve a favour. I flew through F7C and spread The Monkey Virus over that system.
All pos facilities need to be blown up in that system, to stop the said Virus spreading through all of EVE.
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Nyack
GREY COUNCIL
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Posted - 2006.10.02 11:38:00 -
[235]
hi outbreak..
well my post got lost abit in the flames here but still.. outbreak has every right to choose who they fire upon and who they ally themselfs with. however u must admit it looks abit strange that you ally ur self with yw since prior to the rise assault you killed smae or even more yw in isk damage so they should be as nice juicy target as rise. shooting at them both would give you most phew phew for ur isk right?
if i woudl have been you i would actually been ****ed at yw since you paved teh road for the assualt and prior to the yw bac.. sta... foul word.. i can remember very decent fleet fights back around OR.. when yw arrived the dull sitting at pos game started. i know i had alot more fun with fighting toxin OR then i had for the last month or so in xzh.. so i hope u will get something decent from yw as thanks for the help..
i also understand why BOB has the forum mentality they have with we do what we like every oen else can chuw it.. time after time toxins answers post by people when they coudl simply say "no comments we do as we please" but time again you seem to contridict ur selfs..
i can remember posts like prior to yw attack.."we dont ally our self with any alliance" "we dont have any pos" "have u seen any of our capital ships?" etc etc..
why not jsut say "our tactic and who we choose to ally with is our business - no comments"?
but as i said before i guess not beign in an alliance you miss the eve-o drama abit.. hell that is why i am here.. lmao
btw i am not speaking for my alliance!! since i am not in any
NORAD R.I.P
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Mindlles
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.10.02 12:59:00 -
[236]
Originally by: Nyack
hi outbreak..
well my post got lost abit in the flames here but still.. outbreak has every right to choose who they fire upon and who they ally themselfs with. however u must admit it looks abit strange that you ally ur self with yw since prior to the rise assault you killed smae or even more yw in isk damage so they should be as nice juicy target as rise. shooting at them both would give you most phew phew for ur isk right?
if i woudl have been you i would actually been ****ed at yw since you paved teh road for the assualt and prior to the yw bac.. sta... foul word.. i can remember very decent fleet fights back around OR.. when yw arrived the dull sitting at pos game started. i know i had alot more fun with fighting toxin OR then i had for the last month or so in xzh.. so i hope u will get something decent from yw as thanks for the help..
i also understand why BOB has the forum mentality they have with we do what we like every oen else can chuw it.. time after time toxins answers post by people when they coudl simply say "no comments we do as we please" but time again you seem to contridict ur selfs..
i can remember posts like prior to yw attack.."we dont ally our self with any alliance" "we dont have any pos" "have u seen any of our capital ships?" etc etc..
why not jsut say "our tactic and who we choose to ally with is our business - no comments"?
but as i said before i guess not beign in an alliance you miss the eve-o drama abit.. hell that is why i am here.. lmao
btw i am not speaking for my alliance!! since i am not in any
NORAD R.I.P
To answer u nice Nyack, i got to say first off. Manny off our answers has just been that, - Why do u care? - Its only our bussines, not urs.
But we still get smacked by Rise members on the forum, and we replay to that.
As said before, we are here to shoot rise becouse Innerdrive was to talketive, he bailed u. And from him their is manny members follwing his example off smacktalk wich also will suffer the same destany.
If u want a answer why we are doing what we are doing Marko is the man to talk to. Tho i doubt u get a answer.
Now lets stop using this forum as a battlefield, and try to use the little game as that insteed =)
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Kujin
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.10.02 13:15:00 -
[237]
Originally by: Nyack
hi outbreak..
why not jsut say "our tactic and who we choose to ally with is our business - no comments"?
hi m8 ..
WEll pls take the time and read this thread again...
You will get the answer in several Outbreak posts...
...nerf wcs...
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Nyack
GREY COUNCIL
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Posted - 2006.10.02 13:28:00 -
[238]
Edited by: Nyack on 02/10/2006 13:29:25
Edited by: Nyack on 02/10/2006 13:29:08
yep it is in there over and over and over again..
but time and time adn time again you grab to flame baits..
why not jsut leave it as it is.. have one outbreak answer eve-o with no comments and let oppponents maek themselfs jerks..
but yet again u answer to them with comments like i describes above.. contridicting your self tiem after time..
i think boldyn usually dont grab flame baits and often uses a cool head why not make him a spokesperson and dont dig ur selfs deeper and deeper down?
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Nyack
GREY COUNCIL
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Posted - 2006.10.02 13:31:00 -
[239]
jstu a food for thoughts nothing hostile in my post btw..
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Nyack
GREY COUNCIL
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Posted - 2006.10.02 13:35:00 -
[240]
but it guess it comes down to what makes me browse eve-o at this minute you guys not being in an alliance u still want abit of eve-o drama to read while at work.. then to motivate u when u get home to log in and kill that "smacker"
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Kujin
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.10.02 14:03:00 -
[241]
Originally by: Nyack
jstu a food for thoughts nothing hostile in my post btw..
no worries
...nerf wcs...
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Kujin
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.10.02 14:03:00 -
[242]
Originally by: Nyack
Edited by: Nyack on 02/10/2006 13:29:25
Edited by: Nyack on 02/10/2006 13:29:08
yep it is in there over and over and over again..
but time and time adn time again you grab to flame baits..
why not jsut leave it as it is.. have one outbreak answer eve-o with no comments and let oppponents maek themselfs jerks..
but yet again u answer to them with comments like i describes above.. contridicting your self tiem after time..
i think boldyn usually dont grab flame baits and often uses a cool head why not make him a spokesperson and dont dig ur selfs deeper and deeper down?
well m8 weŚre different...
the only spokesperson we have is our boss...
so you also might just ignore what the rest of us is typing
...nerf wcs...
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Caldess
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.10.02 14:10:00 -
[243]
Originally by: Nyack
hi outbreak..
well my post got lost abit in the flames here but still.. outbreak has every right to choose who they fire upon and who they ally themselfs with. however u must admit it looks abit strange that you ally ur self with yw since prior to the rise assault you killed smae or even more yw in isk damage so they should be as nice juicy target as rise. shooting at them both would give you most phew phew for ur isk right?
if i woudl have been you i would actually been ****ed at yw since you paved teh road for the assualt and prior to the yw bac.. sta... foul word.. i can remember very decent fleet fights back around OR.. when yw arrived the dull sitting at pos game started. i know i had alot more fun with fighting toxin OR then i had for the last month or so in xzh.. so i hope u will get something decent from yw as thanks for the help..
i also understand why BOB has the forum mentality they have with we do what we like every oen else can chuw it.. time after time toxins answers post by people when they coudl simply say "no comments we do as we please" but time again you seem to contridict ur selfs..
i can remember posts like prior to yw attack.."we dont ally our self with any alliance" "we dont have any pos" "have u seen any of our capital ships?" etc etc..
why not jsut say "our tactic and who we choose to ally with is our business - no comments"?
but as i said before i guess not beign in an alliance you miss the eve-o drama abit.. hell that is why i am here.. lmao
btw i am not speaking for my alliance!! since i am not in any
NORAD R.I.P
We have a random target generator, it tells us who to fight next. There's currently a bug in it that sometimes tells us to set people to blue, we're working on a fix for that and it should be out soonÖ.
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Mindlles
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.10.02 15:22:00 -
[244]
Originally by: Nyack
but it guess it comes down to what makes me browse eve-o at this minute you guys not being in an alliance u still want abit of eve-o drama to read while at work.. then to motivate u when u get home to log in and kill that "smacker"
busted
=)
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Aves
Jazz Associates
R i s e
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Posted - 2006.10.03 12:19:00 -
[245]
Originally by: Kujin
you also might just ignore what the rest of us is typing
Gladly, though it would help a lot if everyone left this thread to what it was created for. There's a lot of non-sense posted here that no one is interested in.
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Dyneon
Sturmgrenadier Inc
R i s e
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Posted - 2006.10.04 01:05:00 -
[246]
Please disregard the comments from Dan Drorgar. As his sig says, he does not speak for the RISE Alliance. We hope to keep things civil and I look forward to seeing our friends from 0utbreak or YouWhat on the battlefield :)
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Dyneon
RISE Minister of Internal Affairs
Rear Admiral
SGHQ Director of Internal Security
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SwindonBadger
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.10.04 02:04:00 -
[247]
sry from me to you guys (rise), will put a muzzle on it. gl
and b c ing u
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Kronn Blackthorne
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.10.04 10:25:00 -
[248]
J'aime le fromage
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Thecle Vifargent
Infinite Improbability Inc
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.10.04 10:49:00 -
[249]
Edited by: Thecle Vifargent on 04/10/2006 10:49:28
Originally by: Kronn Blackthorne
J'aime le fromage
Now everything have been told on the subject
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Zhuge Liang
Forum Moderator
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2006.10.05 14:07:00 -
[250]
Thread has run it's course.
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