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Tigra Chi
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Posted - 2006.09.30 23:41:00 -
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CTD within 2 hours of installing the above.......
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Jeretomi
Azure Horizon Coalition Of Empires
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Posted - 2006.10.01 10:00:00 -
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Thanks for all the latest input people. It is indeed looking like the AMD X2 CPU may be the culprit, but I'm trying my new Audigy 4 card today and will let you know if that makes any difference what so ever 
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Jeretomi
Azure Horizon Coalition Of Empires
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Posted - 2006.10.01 10:09:00 -
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Well that didn't take long. 15mins of playing EVE with the new Audigy 4 and I have a CDT. If it is the AMD 64 X2 then the devs really should take a look at this...I'm sure there must be something that can be done...anyone from the team care to comment?
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Kedrich
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Posted - 2006.10.01 11:14:00 -
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Edited by: Kedrich on 01/10/2006 11:14:38 I wonder if CCP ever reads forums... Would it be so hard to put a little post saying: "Guys, we hear you..."?
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widgetman
Privateers
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Posted - 2006.10.01 13:07:00 -
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Well i have a dual core proccessor, but its not AMD? I have a pPentium D one? So what use are the AMD drivers going to be to me ?
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Jeretomi
Azure Horizon Coalition Of Empires
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Posted - 2006.10.01 16:37:00 -
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Originally by: widgetman Well i have a dual core proccessor, but its not AMD? I have a pPentium D one? So what use are the AMD drivers going to be to me ?
None what-so-ever, obviously. But you didn't post your system specs in your previous post so how exactly did you expect us to know that? It's just that many of us who are having this problem are using the AMD dual-core processor so it seemed locical to pursue that line of attack. Perhaps then it's a more generic dual-core processor problem that the EVE client has...some dev input would be nice at this point.
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Tigra Chi
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Posted - 2006.10.01 17:25:00 -
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I would like to know if it is a DUAL CORE issue, surely the dev's have all the petitions on this exact CTD issue, maybe they could look at this dual core possibility and do some investigation!
HELLO DEVS ARE YOU OUT THERE?!     
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Iguanoid
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Posted - 2006.10.01 19:11:00 -
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Funnily enough im also AMD x2 processor, a pair of geforce 7800gtx and an asus sli 32 mobo, so the dual core link seems to be quite strong. Disabling one core doesnt fix anything though, as i tried it previously, but as i have posted before, windowed mode got rid of the crashes completely, and has helped a few people since by the looks. Would be good to have it fixed though, rather than working around the issue.
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Shanara Starseeker
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Posted - 2006.10.02 01:00:00 -
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I'm having the same problem with increasing frequency. Every few jumps (on average 3-5th I would say) my client crashes. Brand new laptop .. nothing else than plain windows installed (with a few driver updates). Intel Dual core, GF 7900gtx.
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Worricow
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Posted - 2006.10.02 05:57:00 -
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I too have been experiencing many CTD's a night. The problem is new (I have been here for almost three years). Most of the CTD's seem to happen when...
1) Leaving a base 2) Entering warp 3) Chatting in my channel (I talk a lot) 4) For no real reason at all
I'm currently running this: Win XP PRO Fully patched Asus P4C800-E Deluxe with 2 gig of OCZ PC4000 Soundblaster Audigy 2 ZS Onboard ADI AD1985 SoundMAX 6-channel DISABLED 2.4ghz Intel P4 800mhz FSB OC to 3.0 (and no this is not the problem) ATI Radion 9800 256meg DDR (no OC)
This problem just recently reared it's ugly head. Started about 2-3 weeks ago.
I will NOT turn off sound.
I feel that this is a EVE client/server issue pertaining to specific hardware, but we all seem to have differing systems and set-ups.
Needless to say, this is very frustraiting.
I've uninstalled Norton Systemworks 2005 Pro, no joy. I've scanned for spyware, no joy. I've defragged, no joy. Uninstalled EVE, and reinstalled with a full update, no joy. I have run both Registry Mechanic and Norton WinDoctor, No joy.
I wish I could just do SOMETHING to stop these CTD's
Hope this helps someone figure out the problem.
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Tigra Chi
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Posted - 2006.10.02 09:45:00 -
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I received a tip from support asking me to dissable SLI and see if that helps...........
As you are all aware this problem affects those of us which dont have SLI therefore I told him to look at this thread (exact forum address given) and told him to read it!
Also told him that we want a response from them ASAP
3 CTD in 3 hours this morning 
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widgetman
Privateers
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Posted - 2006.10.02 10:39:00 -
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Ok guys....i have submitted Dump reports , and DXDIAG to the Devs. What i get back is to try and look for new Drivers for my CPU?? As im not super techy i didn't really know what he meant , so i contacted my Supplier of this PC and they did a full scan for driver updates. After this i found i have all drivers upto date? I think this is a BIG problem, but not only with Dual core because i have tried setting the Infinity to 1 proccessor, still no joy. I do have a Xerox 19 inch Flat Lcd screen i wonder if this is the problem? I dont see how as its only Eve that causes any crash?
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Tigra Chi
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Posted - 2006.10.02 14:50:00 -
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If yoru using a AMD processor go to www.amd.com and take a look there. I have the uptpdate drivers and it does nothing for me. This is almost certainly an issue with hardware clashing with eve. I use my work PC which is totally crap and it runs eve jerky but with NO CTD what so ever.
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LittleAngel
LittleHauling Daikoku Trade Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.10.02 17:04:00 -
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As of today i've got the same problem on 3 accounts on any of the 5 pc's i use for them.
My ISP is ok based upon my download speeds and ping's to know adresses. And it happened on a sunday when they don't "work" so nothing changed overnight.
So what gives with this server? Low End Minerals Trader Based in Verge Vendor; Alentene VI-6. Free delivery when the cargo is Passive Targeters or over 100k m3. Safe empire space only. Ammo delivered free. And possible in low |

Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2006.10.02 21:43:00 -
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Edited by: Shar Tegral on 02/10/2006 21:45:36
- Pentium 4 2.8 ghz
- XP Media Center SP2
- 1 GB Ram
- Radeon X600 256MB
- SB Audigy 2 ZS
Sound was problematic prior to Dragon patch whenever I used multiple clients (Soundblaster Cards has a "bug" that can cause issues). To reduce any redundancy problems I run each client from a completely seperate installation of Eve. Only the first client I load has sound, which I've disabled recently to try to alleviate the problem, and I individually patch each additional client I use. This includes any test server client I use.
I've done the ego stroking of having 7 clients loaded at once with performance dragging, of course, but still maintaining playability. (On the computer - the human fails miserably.)
The problem as I'm seeing it... As I add an additional client performance degardes over time. I used to regularly load four clients, now I can not. I can load three clients however I will only have playability from a period of 30 - 45 minutes at best. Docking, jumping, or any other kind of transitions quickly worsens any stability.
Today I tried simply mining with all three clients while running logserver, a cpu and memory diagnostic program. At some unknown point the memory load soars until the system becomes unstable. One client will become completely unresponsive requiring a kill process. The kill will take a few minutes to register. Even ending all instances of eve does not free up the clogged memory nor the overworked cpu.
During one episode the logserver file shows the kill commands being given and for 10 minutes prior Eve contiues to function. Even when logserver shows no further activity two instances of Eve.exe still continue to consume 100MB of active ram.
I enjoy Eve too much to just walk away becuase of a hiccup. However I am debating setting a few rank 8 L5's to train on my additional accounts and suspending them until it is clear that multiple clients are properly working again. I can do nothing else really as I've tested, checked, updated, regressed, and tweaked every possible thing.
The only thing that I can think changed is this "new" security handshaking that predicates the OS to be Win2K/XP. Greater relaince upon the "non-bugginess" of MS's operating system might be biting CCP in the tookish. (No opinion of MS being saint or demon in my mind btw... just a plain statement of fact.)
Edit note: Gross typoes
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fionn macul
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Posted - 2006.10.02 22:08:00 -
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ya im getting loads of ctd really ****ing me off... how does one set up eve in windowed mode?sorry if this a noob type of question but hey im all noob cheers
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Tigra Chi
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Posted - 2006.10.03 06:24:00 -
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In game hit escape, then I think its in the graphics options you see full screen / window mode. Take your pick. I find window mode slows them down - or it might just be an illusion... 
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Restan
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Posted - 2006.10.03 10:44:00 -
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I'm also getting frequent crashes to desktop. I've crashed the last 12 times I've left a station (the same station) so it's pretty much become clockwork now.
I have two machines, and my older machine runs the game fine and has never once had a crash to desktop. My main machine is a Pentium Dual CPU 3gz with an Nvidia 7900 and is the one with the constant crashes.
The machine itself is very new, all my drivers are up-to-date, and I have no problems running any other games. I won't argue if people want to insist it's a hardware issue, but I think most of us, (including the devs) know that it's a problem with the client.
I haven't tried the game without sound or in windowed mode because I really have no desire to play the game without either. Since my crash is repeatable, I'd be willing to try somethings to help narrow down the problem, but I suspect it's a known issue by now.
-Restan
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widgetman
Privateers
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Posted - 2006.10.03 17:06:00 -
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RESULT..............GM has told me to take out my RAM and put back in 1 stick.then try the other.ie; run eve with 1 stick of RAM in to see if its that. They are suggesting its My PC and that Dual core PC's are prone to this. So i will try this.
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Jeretomi
Azure Horizon Coalition Of Empires
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Posted - 2006.10.03 21:40:00 -
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Edited by: Jeretomi on 03/10/2006 21:42:22 Funny you should say this...I've just come across a similar story on another forum saying the very same thing...here...going to try it myself when I get the chance. May even buy a 1GB single stick instead of running two 512MB sticks. Perhaps others can try it and see if it helps.
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Jeretomi
Azure Horizon Coalition Of Empires
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Posted - 2006.10.03 21:41:00 -
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Edited by: Jeretomi on 03/10/2006 21:41:43 Sorry....double post 
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widgetman
Privateers
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Posted - 2006.10.04 12:25:00 -
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Nope....still crashes even with trying each RAM stick seperately......however i find changing the Cache size to 160 instead of 80 helps, and i have less crashes...
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Tigra Chi
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Posted - 2006.10.04 12:46:00 -
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Ok I have ssem to have stabilised it much more. A GM asked me to run the Log Server and send it to them once I get a crash. Strange thing is that since I have used the log server its crashed once in 2 days of heavy play....  Now 10 mins ago I log on forgetting to start the Log Server and I CTD    
Ok, so how do you find it.... Go to your EVE folder and its there "Log Server" once opened hit File/New Workspace, and start the game.
Let me know if this seems to help you guys.....
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Jeske
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Posted - 2006.10.04 18:53:00 -
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I have many CTD's also, but I found a solution that works for my system. Running 2 clients reduces my ctd's to zero. I noticed this the first time when I did some cargo hauling with 1 account and doing missions with my other. Been doing this for a week now and no more ctd's, so lately I let my alt idle in a station while I do missions with the main. Lets hope some dev reads this and can explain/make it more universal than it is now.
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OneSock
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Posted - 2006.10.05 17:07:00 -
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I have only just found this thread after posting my own. I am getting CTD on Undock and Jumping, thankfully, no other CTDs. Does not happen every time, and mostly soon after starting Eve. It seems to get better after being logged in for a while. Not sure.
For sure this problem started after the latest client side patch. I have not changed any drivers or software on my machine. I have been playing with sound enabled on this machine since mid august and never had one CTD until this patch.
It is an Intel CoreDuo based machine with 7900GTX.
I am wondering if there are two CTD problems at work here. 1. for people who have random CTDs and 2. For People Undocking/Jumping. Might be an idea to seperate out the two ? If you think sensible, then maybe people with the undock/jump problem could post their details on my thread "CTD on Jump or undock" ?
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Tigra Chi
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Posted - 2006.10.05 17:35:00 -
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Have youtried running the log server like i suggested?
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Diearhil
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Posted - 2006.10.05 22:13:00 -
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Edited by: Diearhil on 05/10/2006 22:14:35 It goes like this, step by step: (it doesnt matter what I am doing, I can in fact do nothing, it will occur anyway)
- EVE client ( & computer) freezes, no sound, cant move mouse pointer. When I try to give orders, clicks, use keyboard - no response till the next step. TOTAL FREEZE. About 20 seconds in this state.
- I hear a *beep* from computers speaker like my hardware just noticed I gave it any orders it coudnt handle. Client is still freezed, sound is back again (I can hear EVE sounds), you can move mouse pointer, but you can't use ctrl+alt+del or anything like this.
those two events follow one another few times in a row what leads to a behaviour like this:
- computer losts its link to the monitor for bout 10-15 seconds - computer reboots
It's been happening only lately... the more time I spend ingame the more often it happens. I've been playing in may 2006 and there was no such problems. Nothing has changed on my machine since then. It's not a problem of a hardware temperature cause I checked it. It is at the same normal level.
I can't play. Help...
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Tigra Chi
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Posted - 2006.10.06 06:20:00 -
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This is not really the right thread for your problem as were are experiencing CTD, and not this nasty freezing up that u refer to.
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Jeretomi
Azure Horizon Coalition Of Empires
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Posted - 2006.10.06 07:45:00 -
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Edited by: Jeretomi on 06/10/2006 07:48:06 OK, I've managed to improve things on my PC. The link to that other forum I posted before seems to have some ring of truth about it....at least for AMD dual core CPUs. Last night I swapped my two 512MB single-sided DDR400 sticks I was running in dual channel mode, for a single 1GB double-sided DDR400 stick, and played for well over an hour without a single CDT....before I was crashing out within 4 jumps!!
Sorry, this possibly doesn't apply to Intel dual CPUs unfortunately, but the gist of the info from the other forum I posted about, is that AMD X2 processors sometimes have an issue with running 2 sticks of RAM in dual channel mode at their full speed. The fix is either to drop the RAM frequency or swap two sticks for one single. Neither are ideal obviously because you won't be using the RAM to it's full potential, but if it stops CDT does this really matter?
Anyway, I tried droppping the frequency of my RAM when I had two 512MB sticks and this made NO difference to me. However, as I stated above, swapping in one 1GB stick certainly seems to have helped. As I say, this may or may not apply to Intel systems.
It needs more testing obviously, and I'm away for the weekend, but I'd be interested to see if anyone else has any luck with this.
Having said all that, I was NOT getting these constant CTD before the last patch...the EVE client HAS to be involved somewhere and I for one would still like some Dev input here
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Jeretomi
Azure Horizon Coalition Of Empires
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Posted - 2006.10.06 08:32:00 -
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OK, here's some more threads about game instability with dual core cpu. Please note these are not EVE specific. I have NOT read all posts in these threads so don't know how relevant they are, but this problem is obviously not limited to the EVE client.
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=983781
http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=9695&st=40
http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=17088
http://www.pinkjoint.com/index.php/archives/software/games/x3-reunion-crashes-all-the-goddamn-time/
Standard Disclaimer: I have NOT tried any of the fixes suggested in these threads and can not vouch for their reliability. Please use you common sense before applying any of these fixes, and don't blame me if they make things worse.
-- Jeretomi --
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