Except when they have a few DDA/DNC/tracking links on them and trash literally any ship in the game without any sort of ewar required.

Not sure if the rest of your post is some high-level trolling, though. I'm laughing my ass off reading that, knowing that you're in the largest snoozefest blob alliance in the game since the death of the northern coalition. You perfectly described it with your post.

Except when they have a few DDA/DNC/tracking links on them and trash literally any ship in the game without any sort of ewar required.

Not sure if the rest of your post is some high-level trolling, though. I'm laughing my ass off reading that, knowing that you're in the largest snoozefest blob alliance in the game since the death of the northern coalition. You perfectly described it with your post.

And I guess you never saw a CFC harpie fleet destroy fighters like they were nothing and the fighters do nothing against them in ten percent tidi. Even ten ishtars can defang a super easily. Just shows how you never use them.

hmm yes lets use fighters against a swarm of assfrigs, this is surely the best idea yet

whats sentries precious

You are missing the point that fighters are not an I win button and never have been. You have a limited number and supers can be defanged easily. They don't need to be made even more vulnerable.

You haven't disproved anything I said. This is not a fix to anything but a made up problem by developers who do not like capitals or supers.

I know that some people who are hoping for a major nerf to assigned fighters will be unhappy that this change will only have a small-moderate effect on that activity.

i dunno seems pretty cut and dried to me, there existed an edge case where fighters and fighterbombers were able to shoot much more frequently than normal, and the edge case was handled in probably the most elegant way possible

I'm not sure the problem really is sentries so much as how many ships are able to use them. They should be considered battleship-sized weapons for all intents and purposes and the ships that use them should absolutely be balanced with that in mind - mostly by having access to them removed or neutered. The Ishtar shouldn't be launching five sentries - no sub-battleship hull should be, especially not something cruiser-sized - and a capital ship shouldn't have subcapital-class tracking in the form of sentry and heavy drones. I'm sure someone will complain "but what if my carrier gets tackled and my fighters can't hit the ship?" and to that person I say "then you obviously shouldn't be operating a capital ship without subcap support".

the only case where this actually hurts someone using fighters or fighterbombers are as follows:

A) they were using the exploit
2) they are ratting with fighters (or fighterbombers lmbo)

since anyone doing 2 is a complete retard we are forced to assume that anyone complaining was doing A

O, dear lord! An undocumented case of an imaginary exploit!

Why on earth would you want to stop anyone potato enough to rat with FBs from doing so?

Let idiots be idiots. Natural selection will take care of them.

"Death to your supers, but not ours."

If you guys are looking to offload your now "worthless" super carriers, I hear Black Legion is looking to replenish their fleet

Fozzie this still dont fix the archon spam that happens on a daily with sentries....
why hasent this even been adressed?

In all honesty, the entirety of the CFC* would be more than happy to trade our supers in for other ships or reimbursement.

Supers really weigh down the low/null experience and are the reason for the huge coalitions. Thousands of subcaps don't matter against the combination of caps/supers, so groups are defined purely on the number of supers that they can contribute.

*: I say entirety, but I'm sure there are a few scrubs in the CFC that would cry that their shiny epeen was taken away.

But somehow I feel that the 30k coalition you have cobbled together would not go away. And the only reason there has been a stockpiling of supers and titans has been to oppose your 30k man blob. And you say you want a healthy game, but how is a 30k man coalition, and that is most of EvE, healthy for the game?

But somehow I feel that the 30k coalition you have cobbled together would not go away. And the only reason there has been a stockpiling of supers and titans has been to oppose your 30k man blob. And you say you want a healthy game, but how is a 30k man coalition, and that is most of EvE, healthy for the game?