You never answered if you would self destruct all your supers and titans first if you are so ideologically devoted to them being destroyed or made useless.

This change is ridiculous and unnecessary.

as for the exploit.... really? who the **** spams launch/recall fighters/bombers ever? i've literally never seen this done.... you do realize the ******* things need to fly to the target and back, right? you're seriously telling me making **** fly back and forth + launch/relaunch gigigives a massive dps boost? i find this incredibly hard to believe.

if that really is the issue though, why not just add a scoop/relaunch delay?

I'm not entirely sure what the reasoning is for this change even having read the OP, but I'm pretty confident it has nothing to do with nerfing FB effectiveness against subcaps.

The issue is that in theory it's possible. But in practice, it's pointless, because you're screwing your own damage a lot of the time (Unless you can magically get all the supers on both sides to be at 0 on each other, and ignore collision, so that you don't bump away) it's impossible. This is CCP's bandaid for bad coding on their end, because they'd rather not go out of their way to fix it. It's easier to change variables rather than change an entire line of code.

Yet another exploit tied to the drone system. Is it about time to start yelling "Death to Drones!" as much as we yell "Death to all Supers!", perhaps?

Ladies, you're both pretty. Now let's try and help CCP find a logical, effective fix for this problem instead of flailing away at each other.

You make the assumption CCP actually listen to us.

They don't. Their pathetic response to any difficult problem is just to go and nerf it. I used to think fozzie was different, but in the end hes fallen into the CCP mindtrap of nerf everything

I'm pretty well the only person I see using a carrier to launch fighters and they get nerfed while everybody with a brain is kiting in ishtars for instant win? Cool CCP, good job!

You make the assumption CCP actually listen to us.

They don't. Their pathetic response to any difficult problem is just to go and nerf it. I used to think fozzie was different, but in the end hes fallen into the CCP mindtrap of nerf everything

I'm sorry but this is a pisstake. Some half arsed reasoning to hide the ulterior motive. Just remove the damned things already and reimburse people.

It seems this change is primarily just to eliminate an exploit. It doesn't look to me like fighters or fighter bombers will be significantly negatively impacted. I think this change is alright although I would want to say that I am definitely not in the camp that thinks fighters and fighter bombers need a significant nerf. This nerf to reduce an exploit is fine, but anything further I would not support. Fighters and fighter bombers lack the utility of sentries and as pretty much everyone is saying here, sentries are really the only drone problem.

Carriers could use a rebalance so that a triage fit can consist of more than a billion capacitor modules. Sentries could use a rebalance, possibly by limiting their use on carriers and Ishtars and make them the battleship weapon they were intended to be. Given the problems with battleship fighting these days they'd go back to making drone boats viable for PvE and have limited PvP use.

But fighters and FBs are not in need of a nerf, other than to perhaps reduce this exploit, which I never considered using until I read this thread.

And Fozzie, I hope you guys all had a merry Christmas and new years and are all rested and ready to get back to the breakneck release pace. Wonderful work CCP has been doing. Looking forward to more and more module rebalances with the coming releases and please don't forget to add the new rendering to the T3s, stations, and POS structures. This game is getting out of control gorgeous. Frankly, once the new sov package comes in, if it works as intended, I would be content with just adding the physical rendering to everything in the game and rebalancing all the modules until it's time for the star gates. This game is really getting to where I want it to be.

Hey everyone. Hope you've all had a great holiday season. Most of us are back at the office now, and we're putting the final preparations in place for the Proteus release next week.

One of the tweaks we are making in Proteus is to the scan resolution of Fighters and Fighter Bombers, both of which are being reduced quite significantly.

The primary goal of this change is to ensure that rapidly scooping and relaunching fighters and fighter bombers never gives a dps advantage. This practice has not been widespread thus far, but any possible advantage gained this way would both provide imbalanced DPS and cause significant server load so we want to nip it in the bud.

The changes will also have the effect of delaying the initial alpha strike of fighters and fighter bombers, especially against subcaps. Although it is not the primary purpose of the change we are not displeased by this effect, and we do not believe that it will make fighters or fighter bombers underpowered.

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Thanks everyone, and happy New Year!

If you really want to tweak something, give Supers back their Sentries.

I don't get the significance of this change. Fighters and Fighter Bombers aren't really an issue in Cap v Subcap fights.

"These aren't the drones you are looking for"...somebody, probably.

Nerf sentries my good man, we all know they are out of balance, and we all know why there has been mostly drone boat meta since you tweaked Drones as a dedicated weapons platform over a year ago.

Its not bombers, its not fighter bombers, its not the Domi, it wasn't the Gila, it isn't the Prophecy, its not the Ishtar...

Its Sentry Drones. Quit kicking the can when anyone with a set of functioning eyeballs can see that Sentry Drones are not in line with other weapons, or other drones....god damn.

Brace yourself, you use drones too, friend. And your bears do too.

you get boring really quickly. Its not even witty, accurate or constructive. Go spam troll EVEnews24 or that other one, or even better, go talk to a RL human

No wonder even your corp mates don't like you

Then self destruct all your supers and titans and prove to me you are not a hypocrite.

for all intents and purposes

lmbo you first nerd

Fighters get murdered by subcaps all the time.