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Markos Cerrilus
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.02.08 03:46:16 -
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I think something missing from the game is EWAR capital ships.
With the ability to Triage being so dominant, somehting on the capitol level is totally missing. having a capitol ship that could field this from distance would be a huge balance to logi warefare on the capitol scale.
Also there is currently no training path above battleships. Sensor dirsuption, ECM, tracking disruption, or capitol CAP warefare would enhance this dynamic incredibly!
AN awesome idea if you could jam out the booster in a fleet, they would get jammed. This effect would be an effect that would be a palpable effect (also would require a lot of luck). |

Rowells
ANZAC ALLIANCE Fidelas Constans
1952
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Posted - 2015.02.08 03:47:28 -
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Supers have remote ecm burst |

Diospora
The Oasis Group TOG - The Older Gamers Alliance
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Posted - 2015.02.08 03:53:47 -
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Yeah but that's not something that can counter triaged ships or even Titans, which ECM doesn't really work against. This is something that is definitely missing from the game. It shouldn't be easy to train into but it should be available.
Also, I think that if a squad leader gets jammed it should affect their command and control systems such that their squad suffers all or a portion of that jamming, same with wing leader or the FC. |

d0cTeR9
Astro Technologies SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.02.08 04:58:19 -
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Remote ECM Burst works against targets that are immune to EWAR. |

Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon Cynosural Field Theory.
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Posted - 2015.02.08 05:55:25 -
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Markos Cerrilus wrote:I think something missing from the game is EWAR capital ships.
With the ability to Triage being so dominant, somehting on the capitol level is totally missing. having a capitol ship that could field this from distance would be a huge balance to logi warefare on the capitol scale.
Also there is currently no training path above battleships. Sensor dirsuption, ECM, tracking disruption, or capitol CAP warefare would enhance this dynamic incredibly!
AN awesome idea if you could jam out the booster in a fleet, they would get jammed. This effect would be an effect that would be a palpable effect (also would require a lot of luck).
E-war modules are mandatoray in every carriers cargohold anyway....no need for caps with extra bonus for that.
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Asuka Solo
Stark Fujikawa Stark Enterprises
2756
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Posted - 2015.02.08 06:57:35 -
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Eugene Kerner wrote:Markos Cerrilus wrote:I think something missing from the game is EWAR capital ships.
With the ability to Triage being so dominant, somehting on the capitol level is totally missing. having a capitol ship that could field this from distance would be a huge balance to logi warefare on the capitol scale.
Also there is currently no training path above battleships. Sensor dirsuption, ECM, tracking disruption, or capitol CAP warefare would enhance this dynamic incredibly!
AN awesome idea if you could jam out the booster in a fleet, they would get jammed. This effect would be an effect that would be a palpable effect (also would require a lot of luck). E-war modules are mandatoray in every carriers cargohold anyway....no need for caps with extra bonus for that.
So lets delete the e-war sub caps then.
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baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
14892
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Posted - 2015.02.08 09:06:23 -
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Tracking disruptor bonus on a capital
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Orchid Fury
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.02.08 10:31:23 -
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capitals and supercapitals are the worst addition to the game in an attempt to deal with the wrong design issue of massive ehp on ships and structures. if at all capitals, besides freigthers, should be removed from the game. |

Anton Menges Saddat
Minion Revolution SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.02.08 11:23:51 -
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Orchid Fury wrote:capitals and supercapitals are the worst addition to the game in an attempt to deal with the wrong design issue of massive ehp on ships and structures. if at all capitals, besides freigthers, should be removed from the game. no |

Aiwha
Infinite Point Nulli Secunda
798
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Posted - 2015.02.08 11:30:17 -
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The only EWAR cap I want is a Blood Raiders faction dread. HNNNNNNG... THAT SKIN. THEM CAPITAL NEUTS.
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Jack Hayson
Atztech Inc. Ixtab.
84
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Posted - 2015.02.08 13:02:43 -
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Markos Cerrilus wrote:With the ability to Triage being so dominant, somehting on the capitol level is totally missing. No it's not. Bring Bhaalgorns.
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Tiddle Jr
Galvanized Inc.
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Posted - 2015.02.08 13:10:23 -
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Guristas ewar carrier, sounds like a best of possible be. Electronics superiority plus drones.
Nuets are not ewar. |

Jandice Ymladris
Aurora Arcology
1340
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Posted - 2015.02.08 13:32:47 -
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Hmmm, an E-war capital would be able to convince me into training capitals at long last... I have a fondness for all ships with an e-war bonus, even tho I doubt I'll fly them all. The E-war thingie is even the reason I trained the Caldari Black ops BS Doubt I'll ever get to use it like that, but it's fun knowing that I could if I want to.
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The Protato
Vitriolic Animosity Diplomatic Immunity.
261
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Posted - 2015.02.08 15:37:50 -
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Orchid Fury wrote:capitals and supercapitals are the worst addition to the game in an attempt to deal with the wrong design issue of massive ehp on ships and structures. if at all capitals, besides freigthers, should be removed from the game. If we're going down that vein of conversation, then of course freighters should be removed. Dreads "replace" DPS battleship hulls, carriers "replace" logistics hulls and freighters "replace" haulers. Therefore remove freighters to breathe life back into haulers. |

Hal Morsh
Icendus Corux Warp to Cyno.
251
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Posted - 2015.02.08 16:01:58 -
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Just going to point out how people use haulers lots, in case someone reading the above is dense.
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Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises
17090
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Posted - 2015.02.08 16:35:47 -
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Whatever the class would be, we should call them "Dictators" "Localized (insert ewar type) Field", a different one for each race
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VTyx Soul
MASS A DEATH Mordus Angels
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Posted - 2015.02.08 19:23:46 -
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How about a capital with local area bonuses or buffs to a small area of say 15kms |

Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
919
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Posted - 2015.02.08 19:33:11 -
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VTyx Soul wrote:How about a capital with local area bonuses or buffs to a small area of say 15kms We may see something like that if they ever get their work on ogb done.
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2015.02.08 20:08:33 -
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This thread has been moved to Features & Ideas Discussion.
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Asuka Solo
Stark Fujikawa Stark Enterprises
2756
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Posted - 2015.02.08 20:15:31 -
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Orchid Fury wrote:capitals and supercapitals are the worst addition to the game in an attempt to deal with the wrong design issue of massive ehp on ships and structures. if at all capitals, besides freigthers, should be removed from the game.
No one cares what you think.
GO play WoW.
Eve is about Capital ships, WiS, Boobs, PI and Isk!
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Rowells
ANZAC ALLIANCE Fidelas Constans
1954
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Posted - 2015.02.08 20:34:06 -
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Thinking a little further into it, giving dreads capital neuts (scaling against subcaps similar to Titan guns) would be neat. You would then have your carriers for fleet support and your dreads for full on capital killing efficiency; in addition to current capabilities. |

Victoria Ramsay
BOVRIL bOREers Mining CO-OP Brave Collective
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Posted - 2015.02.08 21:15:35 -
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....can you imagine how overpowered an ewar cap would be though? You can already completely **** up a fleet that has capitals by using a scorpion or a bhaalgorn. Jam out their logi and the fleet goes poof.
It could be interesting - but it would need to be thought out very very carefully and tested sufficiently to make sure it's well balanced first..... |

Kabark
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.02.08 22:04:27 -
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Victoria Ramsay wrote:....can you imagine how overpowered an ewar cap would be though? You can already completely **** up a fleet that has capitals by using a scorpion or a bhaalgorn. Jam out their logi and the fleet goes poof.
It could be interesting - but it would need to be thought out very very carefully and tested sufficiently to make sure it's well balanced first..... I agree this would be very OP. First off, an ECM scorp or widow can devastate an enemy fleet as is until it is destroyed. Secondly, I only see this working for carriers as supers and dreads are immune to ewar (siege). And carriers already have an ewar option, ecm drones x10-15 works pretty damn well. I call them my "chaff and flares." |

Lugh Crow-Slave
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Posted - 2015.02.08 23:38:00 -
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Utility support is a job left to sub caps not capitals
capitals are set up to need a sub cap support fleet and be helpless on their own
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Tiddle Jr
Galvanized Inc.
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Posted - 2015.02.08 23:57:32 -
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Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:Utility support is a job left to sub caps not capitals
capitals are set up to need a sub cap support fleet and be helpless on their own
Wut? |

d0cTeR9
Astro Technologies SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.02.09 00:12:18 -
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Orchid Fury wrote:capitals and supercapitals are the worst addition to the game in an attempt to deal with the wrong design issue of massive ehp on ships and structures. if at all capitals, besides freigthers, should be removed from the game.
Noped. Don't knock 'em cuz you can't fly 'em and cuz they keep killing your ****** little t1 cruiser. |

Anthar Thebess
858
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Posted - 2015.02.09 08:05:42 -
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We have scorpion, lets use this hull.
What we need is stuff that can affect capitals , especially carriers and mother ships. Sieged dreads already have multiple drawbacks, Titan cannot defend itself well, even 100 titans on grid is easy target for subcapitals.
Only carriers and mother ships are here the issue.
When there is group of them they can: - have infinite cap pool thanks to remote energy transfers - have unbreakable tank thanks to remote reps ( yes you can kill every thing, simply eve nodes are not strong enough to sustain so many ships on grid , and TIDI makes dread doctrines not efficient ) - instantly refit to any situation ( because capitals use subcapital hards, smartbombs, neuts they can easily use their fleet hangar to hold fits for any possible doctrines) - hold enough drones in the dron bay to replace almost any amount of lost drones.
Yes we can talk about capital level Ewar, but eve is different , or at lease it was this until carriers proved that they are excluded from this rule.
In eve you don't need bigger ship to win, you need to use just your head. For example : - someone get lazers - you bring neuts - someone bring arty guns - you bring tracking distruptors or dampers - somoene bring missile ships - you bring smartbomb fire wall
Because of this Scorpion should get higslot Ewar modules that will effectively disturb energy transfer range , drone control range , and remote repair range of a carrier or mothership if at the same time this or any other module could affect the ability to refit on filed - slowcats could be finally putted in the place of support fleet , not universal , and "i win" button doctrine.
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Janeway84
Def Squadron Pride Before Fall
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Posted - 2015.02.09 08:52:22 -
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The solution is simple!
Make pirate capitals with ewar bonuses so we can neut and ecm ect. but only t1 caps not supers. |

Tiddle Jr
Galvanized Inc.
38
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Posted - 2015.02.09 12:13:42 -
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Personally i really up for a dread guristas ewar carrier.
That's gonna be a nasty. With electronics superiority perfect drone damage application but with only one remote repair bonus something like range or duration of rr.
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Ben Ishikela
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Posted - 2015.02.09 15:42:58 -
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Anthar Thebess wrote:We have scorpion, lets use this hull.
What we need is stuff that can affect capitals , especially carriers and mother ships. Sieged dreads already have multiple drawbacks, Titan cannot defend itself well, even 100 titans on grid is easy target for subcapitals. (...) Only carriers and mother ships are here the issue. (...) Yes we can talk about capital level Ewar, but eve is different , or at lease it was this until carriers proved that they are excluded from this rule. (...) In eve you don't need bigger ship to win, you need to use just your head. (...) Because of this Scorpion should get higslot Ewar modules that will effectively disturb energy transfer range , drone control range , and remote repair range of a carrier or mothership if at the same time this or any other module could affect the ability to refit on filed - slowcats could be finally putted in the place of support fleet , not universal , and "i win" button doctrine.
+1 for more Ewar in Highslots +1 for Ewar as conter towards capitals +1 for ewar affecting dronecontrolrange +1 for more disablers +1 for Battleship versatility xD -1 for scorpion only
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