As solo or small force ship it can work, but uses in fleets are pointless at the moment.

I think "Darkness" and "-A-" did try to make it work in fleet.

Post-Phoebe alert: the Typhoon and its agility and speed when fitted as shield tank promises to be "The Battleship" that could be used extensively when you need to travel though gates long distances.

However, due to its poor tanking as shield and low dps (delayed dps due to missiles), it will get ripped apart by Ishtar-¦s and Tengu-¦s that is the main fleet comp at the moment.

The phoon is absolutely amazing for small gang stuff.

For Blob-warfare, you already got megas, tengus and ishtars. Just go and play with one of those.

Personally, I prefer small scale PVP.

However, like most out in 0.0 we need to take to the big guns... the Ishtar and Tengu will get nerfed. And then we will possibly be back in BS..... AND I get the sinking feeling of travelling in armour BS long distances.... hour up on hour of slogging through gates.

So, with the Typhoon already almost usable as Shield BS... why not finish the job and make it a good shield tanked BS ?

It already is. Also, armour battleships are fully able to move rather quickly.

OMG, either its very very long time since you had to do grunts work and travel far in Armour BS or never done it,
Tdi, align speed.. ect.. ect.. armour BS take forever going anywhere or you Trolling :)

But sadly, Im starting to think the Typhoon will end up like its smaller wind-force friend, the Cyclone, misunderstood and forgotten.

OMG, either its very very long time since you had to do grunts work and travel far in Armour BS or never done it,
Tdi, align speed.. ect.. ect.. armour BS take forever going anywhere or you Trolling :)

But sadly, Im starting to think the Typhoon will end up like its smaller wind-force friend, the Cyclone, misunderstood and forgotten.

You can have a 1600 plated typhoon align and warp in 7 seconds. With two warp speed rigs and the WS-610 implant it will warp faster than a cruiser.

I use them like big fat insurable HACs.

A single nano, 1x hyperspacial 2, a few implants and you get cruiser warp speeds and align times close enough to not matter. If you are going solo then you don't even need to bother, stuff tends to come for you.

Im liking the discussion on this :)

Well, I was hoping to steal the Typhoon for shield fleets. The Tempest is what it is and as pointed out -> paper-tank, and the Melstrom needs no work.

The work on balancing BS will start soon, and I (personally) rather see the Typhoon as decent Shield BS for fleets capable of taking on the Amarr, than being the replica Swiss Army knife that promises to be like the real deal, but delivers nothing. (I know it works fine in small pvp, but I want it for fleets, you can have the Tempest for small pvp)

Missile ships dont get used in large fleets, not every ship needs to be fleet orientated.

I know


The Minmatar should be cheap, nasty and effective.

Lets look at Minmatar BS line as it looks currently:
Typhoon - some sort of swiss army knive look-a-like, good for small scale PvP
Tempest - paper-thin gun-boat, good for small scale PvP
Melstrom - Shield tanked, awsome DPS , Huge EM resist hole, expensive.

Of these 3 BS the Typhoon has shortest to go for being effective as mainstay BS for fleets. Its cheap, low skills, and most of the skills are transferable to PVE boats. So for small Alliances it would be win win to be able to field such BS in fleets.

God we have tried to make it into - shield BS, armour BS, missile BS, auto-cannon BS, atry BS... even Sentry BS.

Whoa whoa whoa hold on just a darn minute!! Do you mean to tell me you tried to make it into a missile BS...and it STILL didn't work?

I'm sorry but I think you just don't know how to fly this BS. It's not a Raven, it's a Swiss Missile Ship. You take it into PVP with a mixed fit and gank the unsuspecting. It's not a POS Bash platform, it's not the favorite for soloing level 4 missions, it's not a Highsec Vanguard runner. It's a less-specialized more-generalized ship.

If you now where to look for a missile ship that has NEARLY IDENTICAL OFFENISVE QUALITIES but offers a tank, you simply use a raven. Easy as that. Hey give the phoon a sixth slot - why not take the raven with seven?

LOLWUT?

Typhoon is fine. It's a great battleship. It's fast, can fit decent utility, can apply damage to cruisers with RHMLs and does amazing damage with Torps/Cruise against BC and up. It's not a fleet beast like the Maelstrom, but not every battleship should be one.

If you want to talk about a Minmatar battleship that needs attention, let's talk about the Tempest.

Tempest is outperformed by the Nado in solo/small gang/skirmish battles and outperformed by the Maelstrom in fleet battles. It's just overall pretty crappy. In fact it's only saving grace is that because it's so crappy, people underestimate and you can get some decent fights with it, but a ship's bonus shouldn't be a 10% chance of being underestimated by your opponent per level.

PVE with Arty-Tempest is oki, Auto-Cannon PVP Tempest works well.

And the Tempest is vertical = Op Success

Typhoon on the other hand looks like a brick, it needs some love.

And if you will not give the basic Typhoon 6 med, then by love of God (Minmatar of course) don-¦t have fleet Typhoon with 7 low and 5 mid, but 6 low and 6 mid.

If the tempest had the fleet tempest grid, it wouldnt be too bad. I like the TFI since i can fit triple armor rep with x2 neuts and x2 cap boosters. Dps is still pretty low, even with 2 damage bonuses. But, its workable tbh. With a 1.5-2k dps tank, its fun till you run out of cap boosters.

The fleet phoon has double utility highs, like the pest. I havent liked that both minny fleet BS have same slot layout. Id almost say move a utility high to a mid. Still keeping it flexible in shield or armor fits. Though, with that many mids, could create some powerful fits (especially armor tanked). Tbh the pest is probably going to see a rework before the phoon. Especially since the phoon was reworked recently.

Typhoon needs Love

It doesn't do what i want it to do and so is a bad ship and needs to be fixed to do what i do