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SnowFlower Crendraven
BoosterJuice Mining
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Posted - 2015.02.16 14:28:07 -
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so i was ganked in hi sec yesterday by 3 destroyers...even with all my drones trained to l5 and a fleet t2 shield harmony boost plus all the fleets drones set to guard my ship...i lost the attack. My fleet boosters drones did'nt even respond to there attack but just before that they responded to some rats that came in. After i lost my ship i docked at the station and thats where the gankers went also, they sure enjoyed making fun in local so i set it up so anyone i my corp could kill them. Well that did'nt work either, as soon as my corp member undocked and seen them he locked on and fired but was destroyed by concord. He tried to dock when they started shooting but got the message ( docking not allowed because he agressed another pilot or something) i guess this game is set up to make no sense to me at all. i checked under my killrights and it was set so anyone in my corp could kill but it did'nt work and so another ship was lost. All i wanted to do was mine alittle in hisec but might be better off in lowsec for all the good it did me. anyone else feeling cheated lately ? Wish i could just once feel like my time and training was worth all the years invested in this game . FEELING RIPPED OFF...Cheers |
Agondray
Avenger Mercenaries
VOID Intergalactic Forces
194
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Posted - 2015.02.16 14:34:22 -
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SnowFlower Crendraven wrote:so i was ganked in hi sec yesterday by 3 destroyers...even with all my drones trained to l5 and a fleet t2 shield harmony boost plus all the fleets drones set to guard my ship...i lost the attack. My fleet boosters drones did'nt even respond to there attack but just before that they responded to some rats that came in. After i lost my ship i docked at the station and thats where the gankers went also, they sure enjoyed making fun in local so i set it up so anyone i my corp could kill them. Well that did'nt work either, as soon as my corp member undocked and seen them he locked on and fired but was destroyed by concord. He tried to dock when they started shooting but got the message ( docking not allowed because he agressed another pilot or something) i guess this game is set up to make no sense to me at all. i checked under my killrights and it was set so anyone in my corp could kill but it did'nt work and so another ship was lost. All i wanted to do was mine alittle in hisec but might be better off in lowsec for all the good it did me. anyone else feeling cheated lately ? Wish i could just once feel like my time and training was worth all the years invested in this game . FEELING RIPPED OFF...Cheers
Did your corpmate activate the Killright? ganker destroyers pack a lot of dps in a small ship, and your lucky it wasn't something like a brutix as a lot don't care as long as they get the kill to prove a point. Nothing you can do mining will ward them off, ive seen mining battleships and tanked orcas ganked and such, ganking patrols have made mining sites worthless.
They are a Disease that believe they are doing the galaxy good by killing people that try and contribute to society and they will come up with any excuse to attack someone that's not shooting someone else
"Sarcasm is the Recourse of a weak mind." -Dr. Smith
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Amrthis
Intent Unspecified
Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2015.02.16 14:40:06 -
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yeah high sec is dangerous, and hulks are just so damned easy to gank. i feel so happy i moved out of there long before this ganking thing really became so popular.
come on you know they dont think they are doing good thats just trolling |
Intar Medris
Hellbound Turkeys
Alliance of Abandoned Cybernetic Rejects
223
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Posted - 2015.02.16 14:42:49 -
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Question what was the tank on your ship? We're you flying a Hulk? No tank and flying a Hulk is asking to be ganked. Hell even with a tank a Hulk might as well be made of paper.
I try to be nice and mind my business just shooting lasers at rocks. There is just way too many asshats in New Eden for that to happen.
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Aralyn Cormallen
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
735
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Posted - 2015.02.16 14:44:52 -
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SnowFlower Crendraven wrote: My fleet boosters drones did'nt even respond to there attack but just before that they responded to some rats that came in.
They wont. Although your fleet booster had "permission" to engage (as the gankers were criminal flagged), his drones would not automatically engage, as doing so would open up a limited engagement between your booster and the gankers, enabling them to freely "defend themselves". Granted, in this case it wouldn't have mattered as Concord was inbound from the gank, the game goes out of its way to protect you from accidentally opening yourself up to limited engagements.
Quote:so i set it up so anyone i my corp could kill them. Well that did'nt work either, as soon as my corp member undocked and seen them he locked on and fired but was destroyed by concord
If your friend didn't activate the killright, the engagement isn't authorised.
Quote:He tried to dock when they started shooting but got the message ( docking not allowed because he agressed another pilot or something)
Once you intiate aggression you are locked out of stations, and prevented from using gates for a minute (that minute starts when you stop engaging) |
Shin Jan
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
14
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Posted - 2015.02.16 14:49:22 -
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Snowflower. Justice has been brought upon you. Don't take it personally, Players living in High Sec are far too many and divide Eve Fun. For a sandbox to work, all secure systems (aside one for newbies with a maximum skillpoint) should disappear. Miners would have to take risks or pay a corporation for protection. Thus creating need, thus creating sand in the box. |
Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
9792
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Posted - 2015.02.16 14:49:54 -
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SnowFlower Crendraven wrote:so i was ganked in hi sec yesterday by 3 destroyers...even with all my drones trained to l5 and a fleet t2 shield harmony boost plus all the fleets drones set to guard my ship...i lost the attack. My fleet boosters drones did'nt even respond to there attack but just before that they responded to some rats that came in. After i lost my ship i docked at the station and thats where the gankers went also, they sure enjoyed making fun in local so i set it up so anyone i my corp could kill them. Well that did'nt work either, as soon as my corp member undocked and seen them he locked on and fired but was destroyed by concord. He tried to dock when they started shooting but got the message ( docking not allowed because he agressed another pilot or something) i guess this game is set up to make no sense to me at all. i checked under my killrights and it was set so anyone in my corp could kill but it did'nt work and so another ship was lost. All i wanted to do was mine alittle in hisec but might be better off in lowsec for all the good it did me. anyone else feeling cheated lately ? Wish i could just once feel like my time and training was worth all the years invested in this game . FEELING RIPPED OFF...Cheers
You've been playing a game for years and don't know how it works?
That's pretty much the definition of High Sec. Players in low, null and wormhole space are FORCED to learn the game mechanics because not learning them results in frequent losses. But a player can go years in high sec without having anything bad happen (I know, 8 years of high sec with only two attempted ganks, none successful).
You are feel 'cheated' when you should be feeling a sense of "I need to get better at this game'.
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SnowFlower Crendraven
BoosterJuice Mining
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Posted - 2015.02.16 15:12:28 -
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thanks for all the responses, I like to here from other players on this. |
Ned Thomas
Hellbound Turkeys
Alliance of Abandoned Cybernetic Rejects
886
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Posted - 2015.02.16 15:13:17 -
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The drones on a Coveter/Retriever/Hulk/Mackinaw aren't going to be killing much more than belt rats. At max skills you'll be doing around 100ish dps with a flight of T2 Hobs. A Skiff with a T2 drone damage amp will do around 185ish dps with max skills and T2 hobs and that still won't be killing much on it's own.
Just FYI.
Vote Sabriz!
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Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
1984
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Posted - 2015.02.16 15:18:04 -
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Pretty much this
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Not Liking this post hurts my RL feelings and will be considered harassment
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Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
9795
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Posted - 2015.02.16 15:20:53 -
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SnowFlower Crendraven wrote:thanks for all the responses, I like to here from other players on this. I really don't know all the game mechanic's and now that i see its rigged to pamper the players that can't seem to find others to fight fair I've decided to quit mining . CHEERS
Cheers to you mate. If someone can chase you out of a video game activity , you probably shouldn't have been doing that activity (or playing that game...or using the internet) in the 1st place.
The game isn't rigged to cater to anyone...except smart people over...less smart people. Your options are quit or be less 'less mart' lol.
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
8966
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Posted - 2015.02.16 15:27:01 -
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Hahaha
(Gê¬n++Gê¬)
"I'm also quite confident that you are laughing
and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers."
=]I[=
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Ned Thomas
Hellbound Turkeys
Alliance of Abandoned Cybernetic Rejects
887
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Posted - 2015.02.16 15:37:48 -
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Also, if you're going to do the drone bunny thing in a mining fleet, keep in mind that you'll need some kind of offensive module on your ship (i.e. a warp disruptor) because afaik your drones engaging something won't cause the rest of the fleets drones to move in. And if you go that route, make sure that the thing you shoot is legal to shoot, else you get your entire fleet concorded.
Vote Sabriz!
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Dradis Aulmais
RW Vindicator Connection
Phoebe Freeport Republic
688
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Posted - 2015.02.16 16:10:38 -
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The game mechanics worked fine. Your ignorance is what killed you. Here's a site that will help you find what you need to know www.google.com it magically searchs the whole world and brings you what information you seek. I suggest you look up high sec ganking survival and kill right mechanics.
Can I haz your stuff?
CSM 10: Mike Azariah, Sugar Kyle, Chance Ravinne, Jenshae chrioptera
Do No Vote For: Tora Bushido, Bobmon
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Pok Nibin
Filial Pariahs
498
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Posted - 2015.02.16 18:00:02 -
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*dodges onslaught of "EVE ain't safe nowheres*
You were just a victim of "content creation". You weren't creating content by playing. Nooooo. THEY were creating content by ganking you. It's how CCP welcomed the WoW refugees. CCP is the only one that did. All other games in the world just told them to learn this isn't WoW. But, ganking in the minds of CCP is some sort of genius on the fly.
One has to wonder. Not about gankers. We all know what they are, but CCP....then, I digress.
Sorry for your loss. You'll know better now. To all others. Don't come in here and speak about it! Free speech here means, any criticism of this infantile idiocy means you'll be accused of being a VICTIM! YES! It's true! In fact,
consider GD the grease trap of the internet....that little crook in your sink drain..
Dont fight it; Rejoin your Amarrian patriarchs; You know you want to.
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Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
9800
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Posted - 2015.02.16 18:06:45 -
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Pok Nibin wrote:*dodges onslaught of "EVE ain't safe nowheres*
You were just a victim of "content creation". You weren't creating content by playing. Nooooo. THEY were creating content by ganking you. It's how CCP welcomed the WoW refugees. CCP is the only one that did. All other games in the world just told them to learn this isn't WoW. But, ganking in the minds of CCP is some sort of genius on the fly.
One has to wonder. Not about gankers. We all know what they are, but CCP....then, I digress.
Sorry for your loss. You'll know better now. To all others. Don't come in here and speak about it! Free speech here means, any criticism of this infantile idiocy means you'll be accused of being a VICTIM! YES! It's true! In fact,
consider GD the grease trap of the internet....that little crook in your sink drain..
I've met crime victims that weren't as angry as this guy is about a video game.
If you don't like EVE, it's community or CCP, what does that make you for paying for it (as you obviously are seeing as how you can post here)?
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Orlacc
788
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Posted - 2015.02.16 18:14:28 -
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Good thing this is not a redundant thread.
"Measure Twice, Cut Once."
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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
19847
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Posted - 2015.02.16 18:20:19 -
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SnowFlower Crendraven wrote: All i wanted to do was mine alittle in hisec but might be better off in lowsec for all the good it did me.
I see that you got the message. It usually takes two or three rounds, you are smarter than the average bear.
Highsec isn't safe, only safer.
Lets look at this like a learning experience shall we? What else did you learn? How can you avoid this in the future?
If you didn't learn anything from this, then the failure isn't on CCP or the gankers, it is on you.
Dont be AFK. Fly tanked Hulks/Skiffs vs Covy/Hulks. Fit tank modules vs yield modules. Don't be AFK. Talk nice in local. Keep an eye on local/d-scan. Don't be AFK. Learn about highsec combat mechanics. Don't be AFK.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Vote Sabriz Adoudel for CSM 10!
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Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari
End of Life
33120
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Posted - 2015.02.16 18:31:03 -
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OP, here's a link that will help you and your corp mates understand killrights better:
https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Kill_rights
In relation to your choice to stop mining. I assume up to this point playing eve for several years in highsec that this is the first time you've been ganked? If that's correct, doesn't that show you not how dangerous highsec is, but how generally safe it is? If you've only been killed once in several years of play, there's not a lot of risk and no real need to change your play if you don't want to.
Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
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Vultaras
Thera Space Industries
3
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Posted - 2015.02.16 18:31:51 -
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I'll be short: EVE is all about blowing ships, no matter when and where, but you are going to lose ships. So you adapt or Quit EvE .
Advice: enjoy sandbox and learn .
Safe flying to you!
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
8967
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Posted - 2015.02.16 18:32:00 -
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Pok Nibin wrote:*dodges onslaught of "EVE ain't safe nowheres*
You were just a victim of "content creation". You weren't creating content by playing. Nooooo. THEY were creating content by ganking you. It's how CCP welcomed the WoW refugees. CCP is the only one that did. All other games in the world just told them to learn this isn't WoW. But, ganking in the minds of CCP is some sort of genius on the fly.
One has to wonder. Not about gankers. We all know what they are, but CCP....then, I digress.
Sorry for your loss. You'll know better now. To all others. Don't come in here and speak about it! Free speech here means, any criticism of this infantile idiocy means you'll be accused of being a VICTIM! YES! It's true! In fact,
consider GD the grease trap of the internet....that little crook in your sink drain..
Here, take two of these and Call me in the morning.
"I'm also quite confident that you are laughing
and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers."
=]I[=
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Ptraci
3 R Corporation
The Irukandji.
1912
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Posted - 2015.02.16 18:34:45 -
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You'd be safer mining in nullsec OP. For a given value of "safe". You don't get ganked, ever, because you never ever mine with someone in system with you. Of course you'll die getting there, and you'll die getting your ore back. And you'll die flying to and from your mining system or going on shopping trips. But the actual mining - well, you'll be perfectly safe. Provided the rats don't get you... |
Cannibal Kane
Blood Raiders Elite
4743
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Posted - 2015.02.16 18:50:18 -
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SnowFlower Crendraven wrote:thanks for all the responses, I like to here from other players on this. I really don't know all the game mechanic's and now that i see its rigged to pamper the players that can't seem to find others to fight fair I've decided to quit mining . CHEERS
That right there might be the wrong attitude.
People like me home in on these kind of ******** responses.
"Kane is the End Boss of Highsec." -Psychotic Monk
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Damjan Fox
Fox Industries and Exploration
93
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Posted - 2015.02.16 18:53:12 -
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@SnowFlower Crendraven
Looking on your killboard, i can't find the kill you are talking about. So i can't tell, how good/bad your fit was. But judging by your previous losses (i admit, they were some time ago, so maybe you learned a few things) i tend to believe, that mistakes were made.
- Fly tanked Procurers/Skiffs.
- Set known gankers to bad standing and always keep an eye on local list.
- Don't mine AFK.
Furthermore: Learn the basic game mechanis! This can save your a.. not just while mining, but in every other situation, too.
Your corpmate lost his ship, becasue he didn't activate the killright, before shooting the target.
Eve still is a PVP game and you should have an according mindset. Instead of rage-quitting after one lost ship, you should see every ship loss as a chance to learn from your mistakes and become better at the game.
Regards,
Damjan |
Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
9801
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Posted - 2015.02.16 18:57:29 -
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Cannibal Kane wrote:SnowFlower Crendraven wrote:thanks for all the responses, I like to here from other players on this. I really don't know all the game mechanic's and now that i see its rigged to pamper the players that can't seem to find others to fight fair I've decided to quit mining . CHEERS That right there might be the wrong attitude. People like me home in on these kind of ******** responses.
It ain't just you. I have yet to meet a 'carebear' (whether they pve or pvp) who understands that their behavior is what draws gankers (and scammers and afk cloakers and awoxxers) to therm like flies.
I PVE at will across New Eden and don't get F'd with, then I come to these forums and watch people cry about getting F'd with when they made themselves targets.
It's annoying as hell, I'm not working magic when i keep myself safe from 'bad guys' in EVE, i simply learned the game's mechanics (and observed the behaviors of people who would try to kill me) and keep from being a victim. If doing that is hard in a video game, how do these people survive in the real world at all?
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Cannibal Kane
Blood Raiders Elite
4744
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Posted - 2015.02.16 19:03:10 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Cannibal Kane wrote:SnowFlower Crendraven wrote:thanks for all the responses, I like to here from other players on this. I really don't know all the game mechanic's and now that i see its rigged to pamper the players that can't seem to find others to fight fair I've decided to quit mining . CHEERS That right there might be the wrong attitude. People like me home in on these kind of ******** responses. It ain't just you. I have yet to meet a 'carebear' (whether they pve or pvp) who understands that their behavior is what draws gankers (and scammers and afk cloakers and awoxxers) to therm like flies. I PVE at will across New Eden and don't get F'd with, then I come to these forums and watch people cry about getting F'd with when they made themselves targets. It's annoying as hell, I'm not working magic when i keep myself safe from 'bad guys' in EVE, i simply learned the game's mechanics (and observed the behaviors of people who would try to kill me) and keep from being a victim. If doing that is hard in a video game, how do these people survive in the real world at all?
It was said EVE MMO players are considered more intelligent then the rest. Well... I honestly believe 98% of EVE is no more than two steps away from 'You aint got no legs Lt Dan."
"Kane is the End Boss of Highsec." -Psychotic Monk
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Ned Thomas
Hellbound Turkeys
Alliance of Abandoned Cybernetic Rejects
891
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Posted - 2015.02.16 19:06:01 -
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Cannibal Kane wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Cannibal Kane wrote:SnowFlower Crendraven wrote:thanks for all the responses, I like to here from other players on this. I really don't know all the game mechanic's and now that i see its rigged to pamper the players that can't seem to find others to fight fair I've decided to quit mining . CHEERS That right there might be the wrong attitude. People like me home in on these kind of ******** responses. It ain't just you. I have yet to meet a 'carebear' (whether they pve or pvp) who understands that their behavior is what draws gankers (and scammers and afk cloakers and awoxxers) to therm like flies. I PVE at will across New Eden and don't get F'd with, then I come to these forums and watch people cry about getting F'd with when they made themselves targets. It's annoying as hell, I'm not working magic when i keep myself safe from 'bad guys' in EVE, i simply learned the game's mechanics (and observed the behaviors of people who would try to kill me) and keep from being a victim. If doing that is hard in a video game, how do these people survive in the real world at all? It was said EVE MMO players are considered more intelligent then the rest. Well... I honestly believe 98% of EVE is no more than two steps away from 'You aint got no legs Lt Dan."
I am the 98%........
Vote Sabriz!
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
8968
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Posted - 2015.02.16 19:07:04 -
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Cannibal Kane wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Cannibal Kane wrote:SnowFlower Crendraven wrote:thanks for all the responses, I like to here from other players on this. I really don't know all the game mechanic's and now that i see its rigged to pamper the players that can't seem to find others to fight fair I've decided to quit mining . CHEERS That right there might be the wrong attitude. People like me home in on these kind of ******** responses. It ain't just you. I have yet to meet a 'carebear' (whether they pve or pvp) who understands that their behavior is what draws gankers (and scammers and afk cloakers and awoxxers) to therm like flies. I PVE at will across New Eden and don't get F'd with, then I come to these forums and watch people cry about getting F'd with when they made themselves targets. It's annoying as hell, I'm not working magic when i keep myself safe from 'bad guys' in EVE, i simply learned the game's mechanics (and observed the behaviors of people who would try to kill me) and keep from being a victim. If doing that is hard in a video game, how do these people survive in the real world at all? It was said EVE MMO players are considered more intelligent then the rest. Well... I honestly believe 98% of EVE is no more than two steps away from 'You aint got no legs Lt Dan."
we have our own class of moron here
"I'm also quite confident that you are laughing
and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers."
=]I[=
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Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
9801
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Posted - 2015.02.16 19:10:17 -
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Cannibal Kane wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Cannibal Kane wrote:SnowFlower Crendraven wrote:thanks for all the responses, I like to here from other players on this. I really don't know all the game mechanic's and now that i see its rigged to pamper the players that can't seem to find others to fight fair I've decided to quit mining . CHEERS That right there might be the wrong attitude. People like me home in on these kind of ******** responses. It ain't just you. I have yet to meet a 'carebear' (whether they pve or pvp) who understands that their behavior is what draws gankers (and scammers and afk cloakers and awoxxers) to therm like flies. I PVE at will across New Eden and don't get F'd with, then I come to these forums and watch people cry about getting F'd with when they made themselves targets. It's annoying as hell, I'm not working magic when i keep myself safe from 'bad guys' in EVE, i simply learned the game's mechanics (and observed the behaviors of people who would try to kill me) and keep from being a victim. If doing that is hard in a video game, how do these people survive in the real world at all? It was said EVE MMO players are considered more intelligent then the rest. Well... I honestly believe 98% of EVE is no more than two steps away from 'You aint got no legs Lt Dan."
You damn near made me fall out of my chair laughing and I (or rather my ass) NEED(s)s that chair 
But i agree it does feel that way sometimes. I remind myself often that the complainers (like the 'bad guys they complain about) are a tiny minority of the game, most players are good-ish players and take care of themselves well.
Still, That loud minority of "wahhh I'm a victim in a video game, CCP fix it for me" is F%^!@#$ annoying.
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Frostys Virpio
The Mjolnir Bloc
The Bloc
1590
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Posted - 2015.02.16 19:10:34 -
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Cannibal Kane wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Cannibal Kane wrote:SnowFlower Crendraven wrote:thanks for all the responses, I like to here from other players on this. I really don't know all the game mechanic's and now that i see its rigged to pamper the players that can't seem to find others to fight fair I've decided to quit mining . CHEERS That right there might be the wrong attitude. People like me home in on these kind of ******** responses. It ain't just you. I have yet to meet a 'carebear' (whether they pve or pvp) who understands that their behavior is what draws gankers (and scammers and afk cloakers and awoxxers) to therm like flies. I PVE at will across New Eden and don't get F'd with, then I come to these forums and watch people cry about getting F'd with when they made themselves targets. It's annoying as hell, I'm not working magic when i keep myself safe from 'bad guys' in EVE, i simply learned the game's mechanics (and observed the behaviors of people who would try to kill me) and keep from being a victim. If doing that is hard in a video game, how do these people survive in the real world at all? It was said EVE MMO players are considered more intelligent then the rest. Well... I honestly believe 98% of EVE is no more than two steps away from 'You aint got no legs Lt Dan."
It was said by the game community who is biased toward itself. Every single MMO I played have it's playerbase bitching how other game's playerbase is **** and how the one they play is so much better because :reasons:. |
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